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zash2
09-28-2006, 10:12 PM
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I dnt think it is but i want 2 make sure if it is tru that b4 a child is 7 a child is for der mum and after 7 yerz old, the child is for their father,, is dat tru islamicalyy?
it soundz very weird
but 4give me if i am wrong

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BlissfullyJaded
09-28-2006, 11:20 PM
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You are talking about in the case of parents being divorced right? :)

Question: After a marriage that lasted for a few years, a man divorced his wife and tried to take the child from her. She is asking who has more right to custody of the child, her or her ex-husband? Especially since she is going to travel to live with her family in another city.

Answer: Praise be to Allaah. Women have more right to custody of children than men; in principle custody belongs to them, because they are more compassionate and more kind, and they know better how to raise small children, and they are more patient in dealing with the difficulties involved. The mother has more right to custody of her child, whether it is a boy or a girl, so long as she does not re-marry and so long as she meets the conditions of custody. This is according to scholarly consensus.
The conditions of custody are:
  • being accountable (i.e., an adult of sound mind etc.),
  • being free (as opposed to being a slave),
  • being of good character,
  • being a Muslim if the child concerned is a Muslim,
  • and being able to fulfil all obligations towards the child.
The mother should not be married to a person who is a stranger (i.e., not related) to the child. If one of these conditions is not fulfilled and there is an impediment such as insanity or having remarried, etc., the woman forfeits the right to custody, but if that impediment is removed, then the right to custody is restored. But it is best to pay attention to the interests of the child, because his rights come first.

The period of custody lasts until the age of discretion and independence, i.e., until the child is able to discern what is what and is independent in the sense that he can eat by himself, drink by himself, and clean himself after using the toilet, etc.

When the child reaches this age, the period of custody ends, whether the child is a boy or a girl. That is usually at the age of seven or eight.


With regard to the effect of travelling on transferring custody, if the parents have separated and are disputing custody, any of the following scenarios may apply to their travelling:

1 – If one of the parents wants to travel without moving, i.e., he or she intends to come back, then the parent who is staying put has more right to the child.

2 – If one of them wants to travel for the purpose of settling there, and the new city or the route is dangerous, then the parent who is staying put has more right to the child.

3 – If one of them wants to move and settle within the same city, and the city and the route is safe,the father has right to the child than the mother, regardless of whether the one who is moving is the father or the mother.

4 – If both parents want to travel to the same place, then the mother should retain custody.

5 – If the place is nearby so that the father and child may see one another every day, then the mother should retain custody.

When the child reaches the age of independence, the period of custody comes to an end, and the period of kafaalah or sponsorship of the young begins, which lasts until the child reaches adolescence or in the case of a girls, starts her periods. Then the period of sponsorship ends and the child is free to make his own choices.


Women’s rights to sponsor children. It appears from the comments of the fuqaha’ that women have the right to sponsor children in general, and that mothers and grandmothers in particular have this right. But the scholars differed as to who has more right to sponsorship if the parents are in dispute and are both qualified to sponsor the child.

The Maalikis and Zaahiris think that the mother has more right to sponsorship of the child, whether it is a boy or a girl.

The Hanbalis think that boys should be given a choice, but the father has more right in the case of a girl.

The Hanafis think that the father has more right in the case of a boy and the mother has more right in the case of a girl.

Perhaps the correct view is that the child should be given a choice if the parents are disputing and they both fulfil the conditions for sponsorship.

From Wilaayat al-Mar’ah fi’l-Fiqh al-Islami, p. 692
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zash2
09-28-2006, 11:49 PM
wel it hadnt got to do wid ne divorce so im gesin datz false wat i sed in the first msg ? jazakhallah for ur advice tho dat wil help Inshalah in the future :)
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BlissfullyJaded
09-29-2006, 12:59 PM
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Um...then what is the situation you're asking about? :? Please be a little more clear so we can understand.. :)
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zash2
09-29-2006, 10:16 PM
wel sister im not even sure myself.. my uncle had just sed how a child becumz der dadz for da child is 7.. so i gues der is nufin for this.. i know it soundz very vague but dis is all i know 2
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Samee
09-30-2006, 05:00 PM
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Please, for the future, if you are trying to ask someone a question, use normal english words. Not only will you get your response so much faster, but the majority can actually understand you.

I think she means that the child is for the mother to take care of before 7, and for the father to take care of after 7. I haven't heard of this anywhere, just that at the age of 7, children are to be commanded to begin Salaat.

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zash2
10-01-2006, 07:47 PM
salam
yes brother.. i apologise for this.. i have now started to write properly now

jazakhallah for this as it has cleared this up.. because my uncle had said this and i thoguht it was a bit strange..
jazakhallah
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*noor
11-19-2006, 02:27 AM
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I was just curious about something.

Who gets custody of the children after divorce under Islamic law?
What kind of circumstances lead to that decision?
Are there any exceptions to that rule if there is a rule?
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BlissfullyJaded
11-20-2006, 04:13 AM
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InshaAllah the fatwa provided should answer your question. If not, ask away. :)
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