Speak proper English innit!

[AnonymousPoster]

:sl:

Ok, doesn't have to that "proper" English...

But really, people who have English as their first language, should not type txt or slang in posts or emails.

Especially sisters. When they speak or write like that, it seems like they hang out on the street too much. At college or in public who hear people talk like that, and for some reason it seems worse when girls do it. Just so yuck, like they are slags or something.

If you don't speak well, it implies you don't read much. And if you are a literate person who does not read, then you are worse than someone who is illiterate!:hiding:

I remember one story of a brother going to see a sister for a potential marriage meeting. First thing she says is "a'ight bruv?" :rollseyes

[Kittygyal]

Assamualikum.
loool not another thread on lingo :X well to behonest i don't like people whom write in text whereas myself use text alot, but what really gets to me is when they use icons alot mention no name :X
Ma'assalama

[soulsociety]

lol

[AnonymousPoster]

:sl:

Lady, Muslimah, Sister or even girl, but not "gyal"!

Are you in some black/desi gang?

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[Kittygyal]

:sl:

Lady, Muslimah, Sister or even girl, but not "gyal"!

Are you in some black/desi gang?

Assalmualikum
pardon:? are you saying that to me?!
if N3'am then am no black/desi gyal!
Ma'assalama

[Skillganon]

innit.

I do agree that it is better to write and speak proper english.

Slang is fun suntime but as caution ppl will take u less sirusly.

[Muhammad]

:sl:

Lady, Muslimah, Sister or even girl, but not "gyal"!

I agree with this - people should not be using that kind of terminology here. It is much better to use 'sister'. Jazakallahu Khayr for this reminder, even though there have been several others before!

[Kittygyal]

:sl:

I agree with this - people should not be using that kind of terminology here. It is much better to use 'sister'. Jazakallahu Khayr for this reminder, even though there have been several others before!

Assalmualikum
but i just want to say in U.S it's not "girl" it's pronounced as "gyal" hence thats why i wrote "kittygyal" as my nick. The way i say thats the way i type :playing:
&& to others i either call them Akhi or Ukthi or some times dude
Ma'assalama

[Pk_#2]

AsalamuAlaykum,

Hmm sista's cool, what's wrong with gyal then? how about gal? dudette? wooman?

Ahh man!

Heh try my best not to use gyal :D

tc don't let this small thing kill you :)

Bye bye!!

[Pk_#2]

Assalmualikum
but i just want to say in U.S it's not "girl" it's pronounced as "gyal" hence thats why i wrote "kittygyal" as my nick. The way i say thats the way i type :playing:
&& to others i either call them Akhi or Ukthi or some times dude
Ma'assalama

AsalamuALaykum,

oh sis i doubt shes referring to just you, but i think 'gyal' was an example, plus you don't use slang, but try to use old english :rollseyes Hmm.. lol :p

[Kittygyal]

AsalamuAlaykum,

Hmm sista's cool, what's wrong with gyal then? how about gal? dudette? wooman?

Ahh man!

Heh try my best not to use gyal :D

tc don't let this small thing kill you :)

Bye bye!!

Assalmualikum.
put it there TJ :) :X
Ma'assalama

[Kittygyal]

AsalamuALaykum,

oh sis i doubt shes referring to just you, but i think 'gyal' was an example, plus you don't use slang, but try to use old english :rollseyes Hmm.. lol :p

Assalmualikum
what you mean by "old english" i am old you know :p
Ma'assalama

[jzcasejz]

Especially sisters. When they speak or write like that, it seems like they hang out on the street too much. At college or in public who hear people talk like that, and for some reason it seems worse when girls do it. Just so yuck, like they are slags or something.

Just For That? They Are Viewed As Slagz :O...Whoa...It Doesn't Mean They Hang In The Streets...It's Probably Just Language That's Common In Their Area...It's Language They Were Familiar With When They Were Socialised...They're Products Of Their Environment...

:sl:

Lady, Muslimah, Sister or even girl, but not "gyal"!

Are you in some black/desi gang?

And Speaking A Little Like That Don't Mean You're In A Gang...That's Just Silly (No Offence)...

I remember one story of a brother going to see a sister for a potential marriage meeting. First thing she says is "a'ight bruv?" :rollseyes

Ha...What A Shame..Looks Like She's Not Getting Married...

If you don't speak well, it implies you don't read much. And if you are a literate person who does not read, then you are worse than someone who is illiterate!:hiding:

Well Nothing Much Can Be Done About That...They Don't Read...Then They Simply Don't Read...And...As For Writing In Txt Language...That In A Way Is Good...Want To Know How? When Shortening Words...You Are Using Your Brain To Process Them Words...Not Saying You Should Alwayz Do That...But Some People See Txt People As Dumb Or Stupid...When They're Not Exactly Thick As Water...


Well Anywayz..Im Not Here To Argue..But It's Just Really Common These Days..But All I'm Saying Is People Who Talk Like That ARE NOT Dumb Or Whatever...

TC Everyoneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!

[Kittygyal]

Just For That? They Are Viewed As Slagz :O...Whoa...It Doesn't Mean They Hang In The Streets...It's Probably Just Language That's Common In Their Area...It's Language They Were Familiar With When They Were Socialised...They're Products Of Their Environment...



And Speaking A Little Like That Don't Mean You're In A Gang...That's Just Silly (No Offence)...



Ha...What A Shame..Looks Like She's Not Getting Married...



Well Nothing Much Can Be Done About That...They Don't Read...Then They Simply Don't Read...And...As For Writing In Txt Language...That In A Way Is Good...Want To Know How? When Shortening Words...You Are Using Your Brain To Process Them Words...Not Saying You Should Alwayz Do That...But Some People See Txt People As Dumb Or Stupid...When They're Not Exactly Thick As Water...


Well Anywayz..Im Not Here To Argue..But It's Just Really Common These Days..But All I'm Saying Is People Who Talk Like That ARE NOT Dumb Or Whatever...

TC Everyoneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!

Assalmualikum,
wow mashallah someone is cooking on gas aday :p people whom write in text usually use the cell alot && texting like myself :hiding:
Ma'assalama

[Naha]

:sl:

But really, people who have English as their first language, should not type txt or slang in posts or emails.

Especially sisters. When they speak or write like that, it seems like they hang out on the street too much. At college or in public who hear people talk like that, and for some reason it seems worse when girls do it. Just so yuck, like they are slags or something. :rollseyes

Assalamu ´alaikum

I absolutely agree with you! That is important for all languages...
But why you make so often a difference between men and women although there isn´t one. This behaviour is a must for both! And not for women "more"! This opinion also exist in other aspects and rises problems, so that we always have to explain, that a lot of things are NOT only applied to women, but also to men!
There are also other things which are not so nice, but both, men and women do them, because they have to.

[Curious girl2]

:sl:

Ok, doesn't have to that "proper" English...

But really, people who have English as their first language, should not type txt or slang in posts or emails.

Especially sisters. When they speak or write like that, it seems like they hang out on the street too much. At college or in public who hear people talk like that, and for some reason it seems worse when girls do it. Just so yuck, like they are slags or something.

If you don't speak well, it implies you don't read much. And if you are a literate person who does not read, then you are worse than someone who is illiterate!:hiding:

I remember one story of a brother going to see a sister for a potential marriage meeting. First thing she says is "a'ight bruv?" :rollseyes

I have to agree, sorry but its really hard to read posts that have been written in txt or slang, maybe I'm just getting old! Its the same with people who post in upper case or start every single word with a capital letter, I find it difficult to read. I have to say though, that people who talk properly rather than *gangsta* speak *dis an dat* tend to be taken more seriously, sorry if that sounds a bit snobbish!

Peace CG

[MusLiM 4 LiFe]

OHH NOOOOOOOOOoooooooo! not anutha 1..

oh wel

NO COMMENT!

[Kittygyal]

Assalmualikum
i think this thread should be closed as it is going to cause arguments therefore better of closing we need to think many people on this site are young it's not ONLY for some older people this site is for everyone, so let people chill i mean let them write in what ever they want i feel sowiee for them even though if it takes more time to read it doesn't hurt.
Ma'assalama

P.S no harsh taken my intention is NOT to hurt anyone inshallah :)

[Musaafirah]

:sl:
I used to be like that, write 'proper' English and expect everybody else to do so as well. But now I feel that I have gone into 'decay'. Well, hey, if you can't beat 'em..join 'em!
LOL! Nah, on a serious note, even when I text, i don't use text speak, I spell out the whole word! :rollseyes .
One thing i can't get my head around is the excessive amount of vowels which seem to be deemed necessary for the emphasis of one word...THAT just leaves me completely lost! :uuh:
:w:

[Muhammad]

:sl:

It is a lot better to use 'sister' instead of 'gyal' because the former is focusing on an Islamic concept and respect, whereas the latter is simply copying street language which has little if any regard for respect, values and least of all Islamic ones.

[Kittygyal]

:sl:

It is a lot better to use 'sister' instead of 'gyal' because the former is focusing on an Islamic concept and respect, whereas the latter is simply copying street language which has little if any regard for respect, values and least of all Islamic ones.

Assalmualikum
i agree with you Akhi, but many people are from different places there not all from UK or wherever i mean the way i type i say it then type && in U.S people tend to say GYAL :playing:
Ma'assalama

[Curious girl2]

OHH NOOOOOOOOOoooooooo! not anutha 1..

oh wel

NO COMMENT!

Sorry! Cant help it! I just find it hard to read txt! I'd probably feel differently if
I was younger and maybe more intune with that whole thing. Oh I shouldnt have posted on this thread, now I feel old :)

Peace CG

[Musaafirah]

Sorry! Cant help it! I just find it hard to read txt! I'd probably feel differently if
I was younger and maybe more intune with that whole thing. Oh I shouldnt have posted on this thread, now I feel old :)

Peace CG

Aww..bless, you're never too old for anything..especially text speak. My dad can do it better than me:rollseyes

[Muhammad]

:sl:

i agree with you Akhi, but many people are from different places there not all from UK or wherever i mean the way i type i say it then type && in U.S people tend to say GYAL

Isn't it street language though? People use that word in the UK, but it's not something would be used in a formal conversation.

[Kittygyal]

:sl:

Isn't it street language though? People use that word in the UK, but it's not something would be used in a formal conversation.

Assalmualikum.
La'ah, in Chicy where i live we pronounce it as it says>>> "gyal" not girl. Allah Hu A3lim && also it isn't street language && many people use it in a conversation. Thats the way many people in Chicy say it like in UK people say Girl we don't say that.
Ma'assalama

[amirah_87]

^^ do they repeat their &'s in Chicago too!?! :X

[Muhammad]

:sl:

So let's say you went for an interview. Would you still use the word?

[Kittygyal]

:sl:

So let's say you went for an interview. Would you still use the word?

Assalmualikum
ofcourse we will we wouldn't say "girl" because our accent is way differnt to UK people, && also if i go to an interview if it was a muslim i would say "Ukthi or an Akhi" but if it was a non-muslim i would say Gyal/Boy.
It's written down as "girl" but pronounced as GYAL= GayAL
Ma'assalama

[Kittygyal]

^^ do they repeat their &'s in Chicago too!?! :X

Assalmualikum
not really Ukthi maybe people do Allah Hu Alim. :p
Ma'assalama

[afriend]

I remember one story of a brother going to see a sister for a potential marriage meeting. First thing she says is "a'ight bruv?"

LIES!! LOL!

I've bought this up quite a few times.....But I guess people want to shorten the time they type for. Understandable to a point. Not in serious debates etc. I also speak like that to my friends and kids, just so that you don't feel like an outsider, so that you understand them better and it is easier for them to accept you, but you must also keep in mind, you need to change with the situation and the person you're talking to.

Just keep that in mind. My two cents....

:w:

[Muhammad]

Wa Alaykum Assalaam,

ofcourse we will we wouldn't say "girl" because our accent is way differnt to UK people, && also if i go to an interview if it was a muslim i would say "Ukthi or an Akhi" but if it was a non-muslim i would say Gyal/Boy.
It's written down as "girl" but pronounced as GYAL= GayAL
Ma'assalama

I see. Well personally, when that word is used, it doesn't sound very Islamic. Even if it is the way certain people speak, referring to Muslims as 'brothers and sisters' (or as you said - Akhi and Ukhti) instead of "guys and gyals" is more appropriate.

[afriend]

Wow....it's like gyal is the normal, proper spelling for it nowadays. It's spelt girl, and pronounced gurl.......not gYal....I've never heard anyone say gYal.....maybe gal, but never gYal....

[Kittygyal]

Wa Alaykum Assalaam,

I see. Well personally, when that word is used, it doesn't sound very Islamic. Even if it is the way certain people speak, referring to Muslims as 'brothers and sisters' (or as you said - Akhi and Ukhti) instead of "guys and gyals" is more appropriate.

Assalmualikum,
Akhi i don't wana argue or anything my intention is not to inshallah :)
but i just wana say if you did go for an interview with a non-muslim obviously they don't the meaning of "akhi/ukthi" so you would say gyal or boy wouldn't you if you didn't know thier name ALLAH HU A3LIM.
Ma'assalama

[afriend]

Well, if you went for an interview and spelt girl gyal I think they'll make the decision on the spot :rollseyes

For this reason, it's best to stick to the real spelling, before you get used to typing slang...Which is really....weird lol :rollseyes

[Kittygyal]

Wow....it's like gyal is the normal, proper spelling for it nowadays. It's spelt girl, and pronounced gurl.......not gYal....I've never heard anyone say gYal.....maybe gal, but never gYal....

Assalmualikum
Akhi you should go && ive in U.S (Chicy) for some weeks && believe me you they don't say girl/gurl they say GYAL am from chicy we don't say Gurl/Girl we say GYAL :)
Ma'assalama

[Kittygyal]

Well, if you went for an interview and spelt girl gyal I think they'll make the decision on the spot :rollseyes

Assalmualikum
Akhi as in speaking not writing in my previous post i even said it's wrritten "girl" but pronounced GYAL Allah Hu Alim.
anyone from chicy apart from me:?also bare in mind U.S is where many people use sick slang which you may not have used or heard
Ma'assalama

[Kittygyal]

Well, if you went for an interview and spelt girl gyal I think they'll make the decision on the spot :rollseyes

For this reason, it's best to stick to the real spelling, before you get used to typing slang...Which is really....weird lol :rollseyes

Assalmualikum
how would that be weird:? lool i text alot use slang alot dude. :p
Ma'assalama

[afriend]

I was in the USA for a whole month. They pronounce it gurl...rather GURRRRRRRRRRRLLLL lol.

Let's not go off topic.

[amirah_87]

Assalmualikum,
Akhi i don't wana argue or anything my intention is not to inshallah :)
but i just wana say if you did go for an interview with a non-muslim obviously they don't the meaning of "akhi/ukthi" so you would say gyal or boy wouldn't you if you didn't know thier name ALLAH HU A3LIM.
Ma'assalama

Ukhtiy Ukhtiy Ukhtiy, who you kiddin' ?, if you were to say Gyal in an interview they won't look back at you twice!!!

If they do take you up speakin' like that then, Please let me know! Lol!!

[afriend]

Ukhtiy Ukhtiy Ukhtiy, who you kiddin' ?, if you were to say Gyal in an interview they won't look back at you twice!!!

If they do take you up speakin' like that then, Please let me know! Lol!!

:rollseyes Yeah...I was thinking, you're expected to grow out of slang language by the time you need to go for interviews...Agree? yes? no? eh Kittygirl?

[*charisma*]

Assalamu Alaikum

ok not to sound harsh or anything, but whenever text is used that person sounds ehhhh uneducated, lazy, a wannabe, and uncessassarily trendistic. In the gender rooms, I think its fine, but out in the forums it makes us sound well...DUMB and hyper.

It's even worse when someone is trying to explain Islam.

Not to insult anyone here, but texters...you do all KIND of sound immodest/disrespectful .

You know how bad its gotten?

http://www.islamicboard.com/general-...ictionary.html

http://www.islamicboard.com/general-...sh-please.html

http://www.islamicboard.com/comments...ighlight=slang

http://www.islamicboard.com/comments...age-check.html

http://www.islamicboard.com/general-...ppl-forum.html

http://www.islamicboard.com/general-...ighlight=slang

^^that last one was even a complaint by a nonMuslim!

There is no doubt in my mind that there are even more threads about this topic.

Seriously you guys, you waste our time trying to figure out what the heck ur saying to begin with, othertimes it just sounds disturbing/confusing.

So if you love us for the sake of Allah PLEEEEEEAAASE type properly so we don't have to continue making these threads all the time.

This has become a huge issue...and right now on this ISLAMIC forum, there is NO excuse to suffice.

May Allah forgive me if I have offended anyone inshallah.

Barak Allahu feekum

fi aman Allah
walaikum asalaam

[Kittygyal]

Ukhtiy Ukhtiy Ukhtiy, who you kiddin' ?, if you were to say Gyal in an interview they won't look back at you twice!!!

If they do take you up speakin' like that then, Please let me know! Lol!!

Assalmualikum
why am i kidding for!!! i am talking about prouncation here omg!! where are my chicy people :offended:
Ma'assalama

[afriend]

your chicy people. lol. hillarious.

[Kittygyal]

I was in the USA for a whole month. They pronounce it gurl...rather GURRRRRRRRRRRLLLL lol.

Let's not go off topic.

Assalmualikum.
where ya lived? in Chicky:? am talking about pronouncation here dudes
Ma'assalama

[IbnAbdulHakim]

:salamext:

the prophet saws had such beautiful speech, so mannered and clear, no-one had to ask him to repeat and im sure it was the finest. I wonder what the prophet saws would think of us speaking slang :? interesting thought really

[Kittygyal]

your chicy people. lol. hillarious.

Assalmualikum
whateva what ya trying a say dude?
anywho back on topic inshallah
Ma'assalama

[afriend]

Nationalism at it's finest.

[AnonymousPoster]

(original poster)

If guys use it, they seem like idiots and their best ever job will be flipping burgers at McDonalds? :giggling:

If you are in the habit of speaking and writing properly, you will succeed in other areas, education, work and dawah.

[H4RUN]

:sl:
Everybody conversing here, oh give the laa dee daa stuff a rest [:p]...we shall all converse in such a manner that will make the queen ashamed...So run along my fellow people....'You don't have to be posh to be privileged' [:p] One must depart now..
:w:

[IbnAbdulHakim]

:sl:
Everybody conversing here, oh give the laa dee daa stuff a rest [:p]...we shall all converse in such a manner that will make the queen ashamed...So run along my fellow people....'You don't have to be posh to be privileged' [:p] One must depart now..
:w:

i liked that a lot bro. Good speech is good manners, and manners completes imaan. Good speech is good conduct, and good conduct is 1/25 of prophethood (accordin to tirmizi hadith in miskaat)

really, that speech was great :)

[jzcasejz]

(original poster)

If guys use it, they seem like idiots and their best ever job will be flipping burgers at McDonalds? :giggling:

If you are in the habit of speaking and writing properly, you will succeed in other areas, education, work and dawah.

I'll Be Grateful IF I EVEN GET A Job In McDeez :rollseyes :rollseyes

But Anywayz...You Can't Be Too Fatalistic/Determinsitic Or Whatever Word It Is...We In No Way Know What The Future Holds...I Know This Use Of txt Language And Slang Limits Us Education Wise And Career Wise...But McDonalds? LOL :uuh: ;D

[youngsister]

:sl: First of all YOU ARE RUDE!
If a girls speaks in slang she sounds like a slag? How dare you?:grumbling

Some people including myself speak slang with their friends, but once you are in your class or working you are obviously NOT going to use slang!

Common sense!:w:

[afriend]

:sl: First of all YOU ARE RUDE!
If a girls speaks in slang she sounds like a slag? How dare you?:grumbling

Some people including myself speak slang with their friends, but once you are in your class or working you are obviously NOT going to use slang!

Common sense!:w:

Yeah I agree also...I mean come on...we're not the gentry here! :rollseyes....most of us go to normal schools. We are bound to pick up slang as we go along, but atleast know where to use and where not to use slang. That's all that's required. I mean if you use slang on MSN that's understandable...:rollseyes

[AnonymousPoster]

But Anywayz...You Can't Be Too Fatalistic/Determinsitic Or Whatever Word It Is...We In No Way Know What The Future Holds...I Know This Use Of txt Language And Slang Limits Us Education Wise And Career Wise...But McDonalds? LOL :uuh: ;D

Doesn't it take more effort to capitalise the first letter of every word?

"Anywayz"? :rollseyes

[Skillganon]

whad ppl hav wid slang, iz so sick wen u speak wid ur mates. u kno watr Iam saying.

Actually I remember a final year Forensic student at uni who asked me to review her final year project and guess what I found?

here: ".....you know what I am saying". (Not suprising from a Stepney girl)


LOL that cracked me up. We still laugh at that till today.

[afriend]

Jeez!

It's the formatting he uses, you can use WYSWIG formatting it will capitalize automatically....

What's wrong with anywayz? I mean come on.....Heck this is no upper-class gentry meeting you know.

Tea chap?

here: "you know what I am saying" Not suprising from a Stepney girl.

LOL Hey I'm an ex-East London boy too lol :p

[Skillganon]

..
What's wrong with anywayz? I mean come on.....Heck this is no upper-class gentry meeting you know.

Tea chap?

LOL Hey I'm an ex-East London boy too lol :p

I am an East End Man. :uuh:

[afriend]

Have you heard the slang they speak? Now that's what you call proper slang. I mean PROPER cokney (I spelt it like that on purpose lol) accent.

:uuh: Why do I get a weird feeling that I know you from somewhere....Maybe...some family member? :uuh:

[Skillganon]

Have you heard the slang they speak? Now that's what you call proper slang. I mean PROPER cokney (I spelt it like that on purpose lol) accent.

I use to speak the slang, but I grew out of it. I can't speak that well if I try to do it conciousely, but it sometime it coe's back naturally.

:uuh: Why do I get a weird feeling that I know you from somewhere....Maybe...some family member? :uuh:

Maybe not. Their is an age gap between us, and I am person who keep to myself alot. So you won't know me exactly from the street unless you grew up with me or lived in my area.

[chacha_jalebi]

typical lol :D
how comes ppl alwys use d anon id, for topics lik dis? scardy cats:p :D

now:D, from d posts so far, anon is sayin if u talk or type in a certain way, u wil hav a job in gud old mac d, ur off d streets or ur a slag:p lol. dats jus rubbish! so stop judgin! :D

[Muhammad]

:sl:

I think the message has hit home by now, especially since this is like our seventh thread running on the topic!

http://www.islamicboard.com/general-...ictionary.html

http://www.islamicboard.com/general-...sh-please.html

http://www.islamicboard.com/comments...ighlight=slang

http://www.islamicboard.com/comments...age-check.html

http://www.islamicboard.com/general-...ppl-forum.html

http://www.islamicboard.com/general-...ighlight=slang

:threadclo

:w: