Israel planning to use nuclear weapons against Iran.

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How much more terror will this rogue state unleash?

Israel has drawn up secret plans to destroy Iran’s uranium enrichment facilities with tactical nuclear weapons, according to a report in the Sunday Times of London.

The paper cites several Israeli military sources saying that two Israeli air force squadrons are training to blow up an Iranian facility using low-yield nuclear “bunker-busters.”

The Israeli Foreign Ministry denied the report.

Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert's office said it would not respond to the story.

"We don't respond to publications in the Sunday Times," said Miri Eisin, Olmert's spokeswoman.

Israeli Minister of Strategic Threats Avigdor Lieberman also declined to comment on the report

According to the Sunday Times, under the plans, conventional laser-guided bombs would open “tunnels” into the targets. “Mini-nukes” would then immediately be fired into a plant at Natanz, exploding deep underground to reduce the risk of radioactive fallout.

“As soon as the green light is given, it will be one mission, one strike and the Iranian nuclear project will be demolished,” said one of the sources.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,242243,00.html

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Iran responded:

Iran warns Israel of any military action against Islamic Republic



07.01.2007, 14.53




TEHERAN, January 7 (Itar-Tass) - The Iranian Foreign Ministry warned Israel of “any military action” against the Islamic Republic. An appropriate statement was made by spokesman of the Iranian Foreign Ministry Mohammad Ali Hosseini, addressing a news conference on Sunday.

“Any military action against Iran will not remain unanswered, and an aggressor will regret very soon at his decision,” the diplomat emphasized.

“Such boasting (Eds: claims that Israel can inflict a military strike on Iran) points at weakness of the opposite side and will not influence the will of the Iranian nation to continue peaceful nuclear activities,” he added.

According to Hosseini, “the Iranian nuclear programme is implemented in compliance with international norms and is of peaceful nature”.

http://www.itar-tass.com/eng/level2.html?NewsID=11137301&PageNum=0

This is absolutely terrible, innocent people in Iran might die or suffer from radioactive chemicals similar to what the Japanese suffered when the US nuked 2 of Japan's cities in 1947.

What a terrible mistake it was to allow Israel to develop nukes. I really hope Iran has the strength and capability to protect itself and counter this ruthless assult.

If there ever was a time for Muslim nations to Unity, this is it.

May Allah SWT bring peace to the world, Ameen.
 
How much more terror will this rogue state unleash?



http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,242243,00.html

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Iran responded:



http://www.itar-tass.com/eng/level2.html?NewsID=11137301&PageNum=0

This is absolutely terrible, innocent people in Iran might die or suffer from radioactive chemicals similar to what the Japanese suffered when the US nuked 2 of Japan's cities in 1947.

What a terrible mistake it was to allow Israel to develop nukes. I really hope Iran has the strength and capability to protect itself and counter this ruthless assult.

If there ever was a time for Muslim nations to Unity, this is it.

May Allah SWT bring peace to the world, Ameen.

Minor correction:

Japan's cities in 1945.
 
according to a report in the Sunday Times of London

According to a report which has been denied numerous times? Hmmm... I wonder the state of Iranian intell if they are getting there intell from news reports.


Oh wait, what an idiot I am! When a country says "we will wipe you off the map" the country recieving the threat shouldn't be worried or think of possibl defending itself! What logic used here!
 
How much more terror will this rogue state unleash?

They haven't 'unleashed' anything until they drop those bombs, but I would be very surprised if a plan to attack Iranian nuclear facilities didn't exist. Whether that plan involves nukes, and how likely it's implementation may or may not be are different matters.. Israeli security is usually pretty tight and I suspect such a story would only get into the papers if the Israelis wanted it there to give Iran something to ponder on.

Nobody seriously doubts the Iranian nuclear project is to develop weapons, despite increasingly implausible denials. The Israelis simply consider Iranian nukes to be too great a threat to their own security, and Ahmenijad's stated intention to destroy Israel hasn't exactly helped in that regard.


This is absolutely terrible, innocent people in Iran might die or suffer from radioactive chemicals similar to what the Japanese suffered when the US nuked 2 of Japan's cities in 1945.

Just as innocent people in Israel might die or suffer if Iranian nukes get dropped on them, and I doubt those bombs would be exploding 'deep underground'. That is the scenario the Israelis wish to avoid.

What a terrible mistake it was to allow Israel to develop nukes. I really hope Iran has the strength and capability to protect itself and counter this ruthless assult.

'Allow'? Who exactly was capable of stopping them? The trouble is that Israel does not intend to have the same regrets in relation to Iran.
 
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According to a report which has been denied numerous times? Hmmm... I wonder the state of Iranian intell if they are getting there intell from news reports.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B]


Oh wait, what an idiot I am! When a country says "we will wipe you off the map" the country recieving the threat shouldn't be worried or think of possibl defending itself! What logic used here!


Umm.. your wording is wrong. He said Israel SHOULD be wipped off the map. There has been numerous discussions about this... and it was not an a agressive move against Israel, and was said as retaliation against the aggressions the state of Israel did to the surrounding nations.

Please don't mis-interpret the words to make you or your jewish buddies look innocent.

Kidman
 
Actually he said "Must be wiped off the map" anyway you put it its definitely a threat
 
Hmm... either Israel wiped off the map, like the world used to be before they started their reverse holocaust, or the whole middle east wiped off because that is what Israel is getting at.

When was the last time Iran attacked any nation???

Before Israel, Jews and Muslims lived peacefully, now there is hate and destruction and racism.

Please watch the movie "Peace, Propaganda, and the Promised Land" you can find the link below.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article14055.htm

Kidman
 
Minor correction:

Japan's cities in 1945.


Yep, thanks Brother. :thumbs_up

IzakHalevas said:
Oh wait, what an idiot I am! When a country says "we will wipe you off the map" the country recieving the threat shouldn't be worried or think of possibl defending itself! What logic used here!

Iran's President Ahmadinejad clarified that later by saying he meant Israel should be moved to Europe. Its not likely that he actually meant bombing Israel. If the Iranians wanted to do that, it probably would've been done by now. I wouldn't want that to happen, just as i wouldn't want Iran to be bombed.
 
They haven't 'unleashed' anything until they drop those bombs,

Not yet to the Iranians, but to the Palestinians and Lebanese, they have. 1,200 Lebanese dead, a million displaced, as a result of Israel's disproportionate but deliberate use of force against "Hizbollah" but actually targetted Lebanese civilians and their infastructure, causing £13billion pounds of damage to Lebanon's infastructure in what was a prospering economy and an attractive place for tourists. Lebanon was also known as the "Paris of the middle east" before Israel invaded them in the 1980s and bombed the poor innocents in th 2006 conflict. And the Palestinians have been suffering since the creation of Israel in 1947.

The Israelis take thousands of Lebanese and Palestinian prisoners and encroach on the Palestinians' right to live in a free, soverign state, but 7 of their soldiers get kidnapped as a last resort to try and get Israel to release the prisoners it keeps unlawfully and Israel goes beserk on innocent civilians. Is such a state trustworthy with nukes? I think not, not to mention Israel is an occupier. (Re: captured lands in 1967, UN wants Israel to end occupation.)

I do want peace in the Middle East, which i believe can be achieved if Israel withdraws from land captured in 1967 and subsequently Hamas recognises Israel's right to exist- a 2 state solution

but I would be very surprised if a plan to attack Iranian nuclear facilities didn't exist. Whether that plan involves nukes, and how likely it's implementation may or may not be are different matters.. Israeli security is usually pretty tight and I suspect such a story would only get into the papers if the Israelis wanted it there to give Iran something to ponder on.

Nobody seriously doubts the Iranian nuclear project is to develop weapons, despite increasingly implausible denials. The Israelis simply consider Iranian nukes to be too great a threat to their own security, and Ahmenijad's stated intention to destroy Israel hasn't exactly helped in that regard.

I dont agree with the statement that Israel should be wiped off the map. However, i dont think Iran would use nukes first, even average citizens know the dangers of nukes. Iran also faces a threat from Israel, and not just by words. The west did nothing when Israel was developing nukes, and now they are lashing out at Iran and N.Korea for the same thing, that is hypocrasy. Israel bombed Iraq's nuclear factories in the 1980s and plans to do that to Iran, it seems Israel is trying to be the military power of the middle east, which can have disasterous consequences for Arab and Muslim nations neighbouring it, as shown by the Israel-Hizbollah war.



Just as innocent people in Israel might die or suffer if Iranian nukes get dropped on them, and I doubt those bombs would be exploding 'deep underground'. That is the scenario the Israelis wish to avoid.

Yes, innocents in Israel would suffer if Iran were to use nukes. I dont want to see either Israel or Iran bombed. But clearly Israel, by making plans to attack Iran with nukes nonethless, is acting first, not as a retaliation.


'Allow'? Who exactly was capable of stopping them? The trouble is that Israel does not intend to have the same regrets in relation to Iran.

The West could easily have stopped Israel from developing nukes. It is rumoured that Britain actually supplied hard water to Israel. The US was pissed at first, but accepted it. Because of that, neighbouring nations may feel threatened and inclined to do the same to prevent a gap between military power.
 
Very simple really. If these reports are circulating in the press that is usually an indication that the Israeli government wanted them to be there. It was basically a message to Iran to beware of any hostile action on the nuclear front.

As for the debate on semantics about whether the Iranian president meant "wipe Israel off the map" or "Israel SHOULD be wiped off the map", I fail to see the point really. If a world leader comes out and says another country should be destroyed that is an aggressive statement, and will be taken as such.
 
Israel has nuclear weapons? Is it? Why I dont know about it? :-[

Israel has had nukes for forty years.. and not a few Israelis would argue that's one reason why there still IS an Israel. You will understand from that why some posters are a little skeptical about the 'rogue state' and 'terror' stuff regarding actually using them. Not to mention concerned that the Middle East is likely to be far more dangerous place for everybody living in Israel, Iran and everywhere in between if the Iranians acquired them as well.

For the record the necessary reactor was provided by the French (De Gaulle was perfectly well aware of what it was for) not the Americans. The Americans didn't even discover the facility until a U2 spy plane flew over it and even then it took them a couple of years to figure out what it was.
 
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They pay Hesballah to do it for them.

Umm... they give Hezbollah money to protect themselves.... not to attack. Hezbollah reacted under self-defence when they took the Israeli Soldiers... they didn't want to gain anything from that action except to get their own prisioners back... they weren't attacking, or trying to take Israeli land.

Now I know your speaking of Ignorance when you have these one liner statements where you try to be a lil smart. I don't really know why you support Israel to go ahead and attack whoever they want without any care for civilian life, but your reason is for yourself.
 
Israel to Attack Iran

If this was to take place what would be the outcome?

The Israeli government has "completely denied" reports published in the Sunday Times claiming that Israel is preparing an imminent attack on Iran's nuclear facilities.

According to the British newspaper “two Israeli air force squadrons” are currently in training for a strike on three targets in Iran using “tactical nuclear weapons”.

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The Sunday Times said “military sources” had confirmed that Israel was intending to use “low-yield nuclear 'bunker-busters'”, to hit underground nuclear plants in Natanz, Isfahan and Arak.

However, Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Mark Regev told TJ that the reports have no basis at all and said that Israel is still aiming to encourage Iran to stop its nuclear proliferation through diplomatic means.

“If diplomacy succeeds, the problem can be solved peacefully,” Regev said.

Israel has become increasingly concerned about Iran's nuclear programme in recent years, especially after the country's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad announced in October 2005 that “Israel must be wiped off the map”.

Not only does Ahmadinejad openly deny Israel's right to exist and the validity of the Holocaust, he has also vocally supported the Palestinian violent “resistence”, recently calling Israel “a threat”.

While Israel has officially committed itself to supporting negotiations with Iran, Deputy Defence minister Ephraim Sneh last month said it may be time to consider using force to prevent Iran becoming a dangerous nuclear power.

Iran has continually denied that it is intending to use its nuclear facilities to make weapons, saying that it is only aiming to create an energy source.

However, responding to the Sunday Times report, Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Mohammad Ali Hosseini implied that Iran is ready to respond to any threat of attack.

Speaking at a weekly briefing with reporters, Hosseini said that “any attacker would quickly regret their act.”

On Tuesday, Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert arrived in Beijing for talks with Chinese premier Wen Jiabao and President Hu Jintao as well as other local leaders. The visit is seen as an attempt by Israel to secure China's support for strong action against Iran if it refuses to halt its nuclear proliferation.

While China backed a UN Security Council resolution last month imposing sanctions on Iran, like Russia the Chinese have also been seen as having a more lenient stance towards punishing the Iranians.

"In particular, Prime Minister Olmert will raise with his Chinese hosts the importance for international peace and stability, and of a resolute and effective international response to the nuclear ambitions of Iran and its radical leadership," Nadav Eschcar, spokesman for the Israeli Embassy in Beijing, said.

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Liu Jianchao said the visit was a chance to "consolidate friendly ties".

"We can have an exchange of views on issues of common interest including the Middle East issue and the Iranian nuclear issue," he told a news conference.
 
Umm... they give Hezbollah money to protect themselves.... not to attack. Hezbollah reacted under self-defence when they took the Israeli Soldiers... they didn't want to gain anything from that action except to get their own prisioners back... they weren't attacking, or trying to take Israeli land.

Now I know your speaking of Ignorance when you have these one liner statements where you try to be a lil smart. I don't really know why you support Israel to go ahead and attack whoever they want without any care for civilian life, but your reason is for yourself.

Protedt themselves, what a joke. That is what the government is for. Hezbollah also has every intention to over throw the government.

PS I don't support Israel. I just don't support every action a group takes just because of what there religion is.
 
Protedt themselves, what a joke. That is what the government is for. Hezbollah also has every intention to over throw the government.

PS I don't support Israel. I just don't support every action a group takes just because of what there religion is.

The Government didn't do shi*. If it wasn't for Hezbollah, Lebanon would've been taken over by Israel a long time ago. The Government watched as Israel bombed the crap out of their country... killing their women and children. Why do you think Hezbollah wants to take over the government??? They believe the current Government are not doing what's best for it's country... And that is why they have so many supports who have been out in Lebanon in front of the Prime Ministers office rallying for him to leave office.

If Hezbollah wanted, they could've taken the country easily, but they didn't. Actually, they sent out their own troops during this rally to make sure the supporters don't do anything that will cause any type of destruction. If they overthrow the government, they will do it in a democratic way.

PS. I don't support Hezbollah just because I'm Muslim. I support them just as I would support Ghandi, Martin Luther King, and many others who were not muslim.

Kidman
 

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