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England
02-06-2007, 12:23 PM
A BRITISH Muslim school is teaching children that Jews are “repugnant apes” and Christians “pigs”, a former teacher claims.

Colin Cook, 57, says when he raised his concerns to chiefs at the Saudi government-funded King Fahad Academy in West London he was told: “This is not England. It is Saudi Arabia.”

Some of the 1,250 pupils at the faith school are alleged to have been heard idolising Osama bin Laden, praising 9/11 and saying they want to “kill Americans”.

Mr Cook — himself a Muslim — warned yesterday: “The school could produce a dangerous harvest.

“It is clearly racist and very divisive. It’s deeply immoral to put such ideas into the heads of young children.

“The vast majority of Muslims, including myself, are law-abiding, tolerant of others and peaceful. I understand now why pupils express anti-Western views at the school. Similar concerns at the sister school in Bonn, Germany, gave rise to the fear that the Academies could become breeding grounds for terrorists.”

Mr Cook taught English at the school in Acton for 19 years until he was sacked in December. He had complained that pupils were allowed to cheat by taking textbooks into a GCSE exam.

The dad of three, of Feltham, West London, is claiming unfair dismissal from his £35,000 job, race discrimination and victimisation. The school denies all his allegations, saying he was rightly sacked for misconduct connected to exams.

Mr Cook makes his claims in legal papers lodged at Watford Employment Tribunal.

He says kids as young as five are told other faiths are “worthless”. He adds: “School books describe Jews as ‘monkeys’ or ‘apes’ and Christians as ‘pigs’.

“The textbooks apparently state that the Jews are cursed. Pupils are asked to ‘mention some repugnant characteristics of Jews’ ”.

A witness due to support him at the tribunal later this year adds in other papers: “Recently, pupils have stated they wished to kill Americans, that 9/11 was good, and that Osama bin Laden was a hero.”

Mr Cook, who is seeking £100,000 compensation, insists he was “set up” for whistleblowing.

He had told examining board Edexcel that pupils had taken annotated books into an English language exam in August 2006.

Academy director Dr Sumaya Alyusuf would not comment.

But it is believed the school will claim Mr Cook was disciplined for allegedly showing his daughter — a pupil there — a letter of complaint made about him by one of the boys who sat the exam.

He denies doing that. Yesterday, his legal team said he had made his allegations to protect pupils.

A spokesman said: “The word Islam means peace and the faith preaches tolerance and understanding, in particular towards Jewish and Christian communities. It is because British pupils are put at risk that we’ve taken the extraordinary step of issuing a statement.”

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2007060106,00.html
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S_87
02-06-2007, 01:23 PM
the sun hmmmmmm. i dont quite believe all of this.

saudi arabia govt is AGAINST osama bin ladin and al qaeda and themselves had bombs on saudi because of terrorism.

the apes thing..thats so misleading. they could having being studying tafsir of the Quran or something.
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Dawud_uk
02-06-2007, 01:29 PM
assalaamu alaykum to the muslims,

peace be upon those who follow righteous guidence,

this was also reported in other papers not just the scum. but they are only reporting on what the courts are saying and then putting their own spin on it.

now does islam teach that some people in the past were turned into apes and swine for their sins? yes certainly it does.

and should we not know the faults of other ways of life so we can avoid their sins and transgressions? yes certainly we should.

but i think some of these matters will have been taken out of context and it is interesting this information has only now come out in relation to this case and not in the previous years and i dont see the relevence to the case in question.

Assalaamu Alaykum,

peace be upon those who follow righteous guidence,
Abu Abdullah
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Ar-RaYYan
02-06-2007, 01:55 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by amani
the sun hmmmmmm. i dont quite believe all of this.

saudi arabia govt is AGAINST osama bin ladin and al qaeda and themselves had bombs on saudi because of terrorism.

the apes thing..thats so misleading. they could having being studying tafsir of the Quran or something.
I agree
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Sami Zaatari
02-06-2007, 04:59 PM
so wait a minute, that rat nick griffin of the bnp can go speak badly about muslims and the blessed prophet Muhammad and his companions by calling them desert barbarians and Islam as a religion for desert savages but they complain when they get called pigs and monkeys? hmmmmmmmm STOP WHINING FOR ONCE plz i mean no offense to u brits but u whine more than anyone i have seen, i am in london now and danggggg ur rants in the media about muslims this muslims that is so boringgggg now, even most of the public are tired of it, get over urselves and stop whining plzzzzzzz because it seriously is not getting u anywhere, Islam is still growing in uk, not shrinking, and its growing among the WHITE COMMUNITY, i say white community because there are some who feel that asians, blacks, are not considered real brits.
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England
02-06-2007, 05:24 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Sami Zaatari
so wait a minute, that rat nick griffin of the bnp can go speak badly about muslims and the blessed prophet Muhammad and his companions by calling them desert barbarians and Islam as a religion for desert savages but they complain when they get called pigs and monkeys? hmmmmmmmm STOP WHINING FOR ONCE plz i mean no offense to u brits but u whine more than anyone i have seen, i am in london now and danggggg ur rants in the media about muslims this muslims that is so boringgggg now, even most of the public are tired of it, get over urselves and stop whining plzzzzzzz because it seriously is not getting u anywhere, Islam is still growing in uk, not shrinking, and its growing among the WHITE COMMUNITY, i say white community because there are some who feel that asians, blacks, are not considered real brits.
Have the BNP set up schools for children to be anti-muslim? That school is teaching children to HATE non muslims and the danger of it is apparent, hence children wanting to kill Americans. You say Islam is growing but so are Roman Catholics with the immigrants coming in from Poland, Romania, Bulgaria, Czech Republic. The list goes on with the Eastern European immigrants.

If this school is turning these children to become terrorists of the future then every single one of them needs deporting. The one teaching them to hate non muslims needs to be sent to Guantanamo Bay.
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Fishman
02-06-2007, 05:32 PM
:sl:
I believe in The Sun about as much as I believe in magic slippers...
:w:
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KAding
02-06-2007, 05:36 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Fishman
:sl:
I believe in The Sun about as much as I believe in magic slippers...
:w:
You'd think it would be quite easy to check if "school books describe Jews as ‘monkeys’ or ‘apes’ and Christians as ‘pigs’."
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Sami Zaatari
02-06-2007, 05:54 PM
england that still doesnt refute what i said, BNP PREACH HATE so get over it, if u preach it, dont complain if u get called a pig, and YES BNP TEACH THEIR KIDS HATE, not in school but at home and thats a fact which u cant deny, they see their dads talking all nasty about muslims, what effect u think that will have on their kid? so dont play dumb bnp PREACH HATE and u dont mind, so again get over urself, and Islam is growing faster than catholism in UK and thats a fact so hence that comment of urs is useless.
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Pk_#2
02-06-2007, 05:56 PM
i don't believe this, ASTAGHFIRULLAH!

i hope it's not true

i duno what to say!

Peace :oS
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wilberhum
02-06-2007, 06:17 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by tasmiyah_B
i don't believe this, ASTAGHFIRULLAH!

i hope it's not true

i duno what to say!

Peace :oS
It is human nature to not accept what you don't like. But it doesn't change reality.
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Trumble
02-06-2007, 06:25 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Sami Zaatari
england that still doesnt refute what i said, BNP PREACH HATE so get over it, if u preach it, dont complain if u get called a pig, and YES BNP TEACH THEIR KIDS HATE, not in school but at home and thats a fact which u cant deny, they see their dads talking all nasty about muslims, what effect u think that will have on their kid? so dont play dumb bnp PREACH HATE and u dont mind, so again get over urself, and Islam is growing faster than catholism in UK and thats a fact so hence that comment of urs is useless.
He refuted what you said quite comprehensively. There is a huge difference between what private individuals (belonging to fringe political movements) may get away with 'preaching' and what a government funded school should teach.

If you can't grasp that, think about it the other away around. If it's OK for a Saudi school to teach what has been described, then presumably you would have no objection at all to British schools teaching children that all muslims are 'pigs' and they should have no hesitation in supporting and indeed joining any military action that slaughters as many of them as possible?

It is totally wrong in both instances.
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Wolodyjowski
02-06-2007, 08:58 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by tasmiyah_B
i don't believe this, ASTAGHFIRULLAH!

i hope it's not true

i duno what to say!

Peace :oS

haha lol! it was the most typical answer of a muslim informed about islamic extremism. I dont believe this, its not true, i dont know what to say, peace :D

It reminds me a scene from a movie "Marsians attacks" when marsians said- "we came in peace, please surrender" :smile:
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Fishman
02-06-2007, 09:02 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Wolodyjowski
haha lol! it was the most typical answer of a muslim informed about islamic extremism. I dont believe this, its not true, i dont know what to say, peace :D
:sl:
The fact that most Muslims are shocked when they hear about these things also proves that most Muslims don't support them. Which renders your entire point, well, pointless... :okay:
:w:
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wilberhum
02-06-2007, 09:08 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Fishman
:sl:
The fact that most Muslims are shocked when they hear about these things also proves that most Muslims don't support them. Which renders your entire point, well, pointless... :okay:
:w:
I have a problem with anything said on FOX News, but they said in a report that polls show that most Muslims in the ME believe that the Jews did 9-11. Second to the Jews was the CIA. I'm not a bit suppressed. I have seen those stances many times. Reality can be shocking.
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SilentObserver
02-07-2007, 01:25 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by England
A BRITISH Muslim school is teaching children that Jews are “repugnant apes” and Christians “pigs”, a former teacher claims.

Colin Cook, 57, says when he raised his concerns to chiefs at the Saudi government-funded King Fahad Academy in West London he was told: “This is not England. It is Saudi Arabia.”

Some of the 1,250 pupils at the faith school are alleged to have been heard idolising Osama bin Laden, praising 9/11 and saying they want to “kill Americans”.

Mr Cook — himself a Muslim — warned yesterday: “The school could produce a dangerous harvest.

“It is clearly racist and very divisive. It’s deeply immoral to put such ideas into the heads of young children.

“The vast majority of Muslims, including myself, are law-abiding, tolerant of others and peaceful. I understand now why pupils express anti-Western views at the school. Similar concerns at the sister school in Bonn, Germany, gave rise to the fear that the Academies could become breeding grounds for terrorists.”

Mr Cook taught English at the school in Acton for 19 years until he was sacked in December. He had complained that pupils were allowed to cheat by taking textbooks into a GCSE exam.

The dad of three, of Feltham, West London, is claiming unfair dismissal from his £35,000 job, race discrimination and victimisation. The school denies all his allegations, saying he was rightly sacked for misconduct connected to exams.

Mr Cook makes his claims in legal papers lodged at Watford Employment Tribunal.

He says kids as young as five are told other faiths are “worthless”. He adds: “School books describe Jews as ‘monkeys’ or ‘apes’ and Christians as ‘pigs’.

“The textbooks apparently state that the Jews are cursed. Pupils are asked to ‘mention some repugnant characteristics of Jews’ ”.

A witness due to support him at the tribunal later this year adds in other papers: “Recently, pupils have stated they wished to kill Americans, that 9/11 was good, and that Osama bin Laden was a hero.”

Mr Cook, who is seeking £100,000 compensation, insists he was “set up” for whistleblowing.

He had told examining board Edexcel that pupils had taken annotated books into an English language exam in August 2006.

Academy director Dr Sumaya Alyusuf would not comment.

But it is believed the school will claim Mr Cook was disciplined for allegedly showing his daughter — a pupil there — a letter of complaint made about him by one of the boys who sat the exam.

He denies doing that. Yesterday, his legal team said he had made his allegations to protect pupils.

A spokesman said: “The word Islam means peace and the faith preaches tolerance and understanding, in particular towards Jewish and Christian communities. It is because British pupils are put at risk that we’ve taken the extraordinary step of issuing a statement.”

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2007060106,00.html
Time for the UK government to shut the school down. They are WAY too tolerant. Shut the school down and deport any staff that taught this to children.
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England
02-07-2007, 01:42 AM
The thing I don't get with this article is why did it take until the teacher was sacked for him to come out publicly about this school?
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Dawud_uk
02-07-2007, 09:05 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by England
The thing I don't get with this article is why did it take until the teacher was sacked for him to come out publicly about this school?
exactly what i said, i hate to suspect a brother but if it was so evil and wrong then why wait this long?

the fact that he didnt come forward earlier makes his testimony suspect because he was willing to keep quiet about something he now says is wrong as long as he was being paid a wage,

and for silent observer,
even if everything in this article was true, even if i agreed with you about it being all wrong and not taken out of context etc then really dont think for a moment the uk would close this school down, they would not dare do so for fear of offending the saudia government.

Abu Abdullah
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Bittersteel
02-07-2007, 10:20 AM
England ,you got a more reputable source?
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Snowflake
02-07-2007, 10:47 AM
there's a saying, 'you are what you eat'? does that include pigs? lol JK! ;D

I wouldn't call anyone a pig.

Call me a typical muslim but the story seems to have been twisted.
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Muhammad
02-07-2007, 10:56 AM
Greetings,

A BRITISH Muslim school is teaching children that Jews are “repugnant apes” and Christians “pigs”, a former teacher claims.
Apes and pigs refers to a people who disobeyed Allaah, as the Qur'an mentions in a number of places, such as:

“Say: ‘O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! Do you criticize us for no other reason than that we believe in Allaah, and in (the Revelation) which has been sent down to us and in that which has been sent down before (us), and that most of you are Faasiqoon [rebellious and disobedient (to Allaah)]?’

Say (O Muhammad to the people of the Scripture): ‘Shall I inform you of something worse than that, regarding the recompense from Allaah: those (Jews) who incurred the Curse of Allaah and His Wrath, and those of whom (some) He transformed into monkeys and swines, and those who worshipped Taaghoot (false deities); such are worse in rank (on the Day of Resurrection in the Hell-fire), and far more astray from the Right Path (in the life of this world)’”
[al-Maa’idah 5:59-60]

And the story is explained in more detail here:

“And ask them (O Muhammad) about the town that was by the sea; when they transgressed in the matter of the Sabbath (i.e. Saturday): when their fish came to them openly on the Sabbath day, and did not come to them on the day they had no Sabbath. Thus We made a trial of them, for they used to rebel against Allaah’s Command (disobey Allaah).
[al-A’raaf 7:163]

So perhaps someone caught a glimpse of the words "pigs" and "monkeys" in a textbook and jumped to the wrong conclusions. Islam clearly recognises that that not all Jews and Christians are the same, for Allaah (swt) has also said in the Qur'an:

Not all of them are alike; a party of the people of the Scripture stand for the right, they recite the Verses of Allâh during the hours of the night, prostrating themselves in prayer.
They believe in Allâh and the Last Day; they enjoin Al-Ma'rûf (Islâmic Monotheism, and following Prophet Muhammad

) and forbid Al-Munkar (polytheism, disbelief and opposing Prophet Muhammad

); and they hasten in (all) good works; and they are among the righteous.


And whatever good they do, nothing will be rejected of them; for Allâh knows well those who are Al-Muttaqûn (the pious).
[Aal-Imraan 3:113-115]

And if they would but truly observe the Torah and the Gospel and all [the revelation] that has been bestowed from on high upon them by their Sustainer, they would indeed partake of all the blessings of heaven and earth. Some of them do pursue a right course; but as for most of them -vile indeed is what they do!
[Al-Maa'idah 5:66]

Furthermore, there are many other verses that teach Muslims to be just towards others and there are teachings of the Prophet (peace be upon him) that teach respect for human life, regardless of religion.

Peace.
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