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skill-boy
03-12-2007, 01:26 PM
heres what ma friend said in other forum

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Now I saw some site showing an alleged contradiction - about how the Quran used the word 'smoke' while referring to the origins of the universe as opposed to 'gas' which was the word to be used.

I decided to do my own research: I'm assuming you can read arabic:

Gas in arabic is:
http://online.ectaco.co.uk/main.jsp%...=ar&source=gas

Smoke in arabic is:
http://online.ectaco.co.uk/main.jsp;...r&source=smoke

The Quran, in verse 41.11 says
Quote:
41:11 And [11] He [it is who] applied His design to the skies, which were [yet but] smoke; [12] and He [it is who] said to them and to the earth, “Come [into being], both of you, willingly or unwillingly!” - to which both responded, “We do come in obedience.” [13]


Reference:
http://www.islamicity.com/QuranSearch/

And I checked the Arabic text as well, it said 'dukhanun' (smoke, if I'm not mistaken).

Now my understanding is that this verse (41:11) refers to how the stars were before they were formed. The gaseous matter et al - the birth of the stars - (correct me if I'm wrong). If that's the case then using the word smoke is totally inappropriate as gas and smoke are not the same.

But it also occured to me that perhaps the word 'gas' did not exist or was not used at that time? Is that the explanation? I had no means of finding that out ...

The arabic that was used to write the Quran - did it or did it not contain the word 'gas'?

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i need help 2 make him understand what teh real meaning is ...

im not sure if tis is da rite place, but pls forgive , me new here ...
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Abdul Fattah
03-12-2007, 01:47 PM
First of, youmight be onto somthing when you say that perhaps there was no alternative word for gas in those days. Secondly, not everything was in gaseous state. Some stuff would have burned up into dustparticles and hence teh gas + dustparticles = smoke :)
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vpb
03-12-2007, 01:50 PM
selam alaikum,

Dr. Zakir Naik
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AawvWeLHZUM

he talks especially about the verse above in your post, and about the word 'dukhanun'.
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skill-boy
03-12-2007, 04:16 PM
wonderfu l...

jazakallah dear bro ... may allah grant u paradise !

allah hafiz
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