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bint_muhammed
12-11-2006, 07:10 PM
SALAM!!!!
when people pass away we do a khatam, and we bless it upon the person etc., however i was told today that its islamically wrong! i'm confused because well i've been told thats what you do , anyways what i'm asking is it permissable or not, please back answer up?
jazakhallah!
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Umar001
12-11-2006, 07:12 PM
Khatam meaning?
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Snowflake
12-11-2006, 09:25 PM
Khatam is the Urdu word for the gathering on the 4th and 40th day after death to recite the Quran and pray for the deceased. It's commonly practiced amongst Pakistanis.

Well Ya_Giney, it's innovation as far as I know. Islamically a three day mourning period should be observed. For widows it's months and 10 days long (Qur'an 2:234).

Sorry, couldn't help you more.
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DigitalStorm82
12-12-2006, 12:29 AM
Question:
Is setting a date to meet and read the entire Qur’aan for a deceased person and to pray for him, and doing this every year a bid‘ah.?

Answer:

Praise be to Allaah.

There is no indication in either the Qur’aan or the Sunnah that would prescribe the actions described in the question. Based on this fact, these actions are bid‘ah (a reprehensible innovation) which is not permitted; we should avoid it and warn others not to do it. The Messenger of Allaah (Peace & Blessings of Allaah be upon Him) used to say in his khutbahs (sermons): "The truest of speech is the Book of Allaah, the best guidance is that of Muhammad and the worst of things are those which are newly invented. Every newly-invented thing is a bid‘ah, every bid‘ah is a going astray, and every going astray will end in the Fire of Hell." (Reported by al-Nisaa’i, may Allaah have mercy on him, in al-Sunan, Kitaab salaat al-‘eidayn, no. 1560).

It is permissible to pray for the deceased, without arranging a formal gathering, and without setting a specific date for doing so. We ask Allaah to help us and you to do that which He loves and which will please Him. Allaah knows best.





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Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн
12-12-2006, 12:46 AM
AH! this is the question i was asking on the thread i think called praying at the graves. My family does this. The day someone passes, we recite Surah Fatiha...is that the same thing as this?
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Dhulqarnaeen
12-12-2006, 04:27 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by ya_Giney
SALAM!!!!
when people pass away we do a khatam, and we bless it upon the person etc., however i was told today that its islamically wrong! i'm confused because well i've been told thats what you do , anyways what i'm asking is it permissable or not, please back answer up?
jazakhallah!
:sl:
Is a khatam means finish the Quran for mayit? Or celebration of the deads time, first day since the dead till 7 day. In Indonesia we have till 1000 days :heated:
But whatever this khatam means ITS bid'ah, bid'ah means no example from Rasulullah -shalallahu alaihi wasallam- and his companions -radhiallahu anhuma-. And if theres no example from both of them, then we use hadith thats said "every action (In ibadah) which have no example from us, then this action rejected". (HR. Muslim:3243 Narated by Aisha).

So...eventhough a lot of people doing it, still we do ibadah based with evidences from Quran and Sunnah, and NOT from the quantity who doing it :) . Cause its Allah who will give us heaven and not those people.

And ulama have explained that the condition of one amal will be accepted, those are:
1. Ikhlas
2. Theres example from Rasulullah and HIs companions.
If one of these condition not fullfilled, then be SURE that your ibadah will not be accepted, although you have used a lot of money and energy.




AH! this is the question i was asking on the thread i think called praying at the graves. My family does this. The day someone passes, we recite Surah Fatiha...is that the same thing as this?

Also reading fatihah WILL not give benefit to the mayit, according hadith thats said there are only three things that mayit can benefit of, those are 1. Amal jariyah, 2. Knowledges thats been taught, 3. Du'a by his children. Only this three things can benefit the mayit when they have dead. And NO surah from Quran will benefit them, BUT if one of his children read Quran (And not for intention to send it for the mayit) then the mayit have the reward exactly the same with the children have.
Al Imam Asy Syafi'i is the strongest Imam which denied this believe that Quran give benefit to mayit. He said Quran for living people and not for dead people. Will it nebefit mayit if we read Quran thats said "Aqimish shalah", no right. And also theres some muslims doing adhan in the ears of the mayit in the burial, its also bid'ah. WHat will you do if the mayit wake up and go to the mosque?!?!? ;D Cause adhan for people who will pray to the mosque right? :giggling:
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Dhulqarnaeen
12-12-2006, 04:57 AM
:sl:
Indonesia have the most bid'ah I think. And especially bid'ah about mayit. THeres sending fatihah to Rasul, to the mayit, to the mayits family, to the salihin, to Abdul Qadir Jaelani, and all. And also they send fatihah for someone who celebrate birthday. They send fatihah everywhere :uhwhat

And then theyre gathering in the mayits house. And they have walimah in there, so the family of the mayit (who still in sadness of losing someone they love) HAVE to prepare all kinda foods,chairs, drink, and all of things, and it cause them a lot of money :cry: BId'ah surely will muslim in hard situation right. Till I heard in one village, some muslims have to sell their land, their house, or cars, or farm animals, JUST to do this gathering :rant: . This gathering called "tahlil-an". And they wanna do this all cause the ustadh or ulama (Ulama to egnorants eyes of course) there told them to do so :uuh: . And if they do it then they warned of the consequences. Most of those ustadh and ulama are juhala, leading people to deviation :hiding: Allahul mustaan.
So following sunnah is easy, and of course cheap. Cause Islam NOT to make the believers hard.
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Snowflake
12-12-2006, 01:39 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Tayyaba
AH! this is the question i was asking on the thread i think called praying at the graves. My family does this. The day someone passes, we recite Surah Fatiha...is that the same thing as this?
There is no evidence in the Sunnah of the Prophet (SAW) which supports going to cemeteries and reciting the Quran, nor did he instruct his Companions (RAA) and the members of his household to do it.

However one can make this duaa:
"Peace be upon you, the inhabitants of the city, among the Believers and the Muslims and God willing we shall join you. You have gone before us and we are coming after. We beg of Allah peace for us and for you. 0 Allah forgive them . 0 Allah have mercy on them."


In Indonesia we have till 1000 days
Alhumdulillah I'm not indonesian! ;D

Astaghfirullah, I been raised attending these gatherings. I've never liked them. Firstly because the deceased has so many relatives who come to mourn and for the first four days the deceased's family don't get any rest as they have to be there for visitors coming from far and wide. It's a stressful situation for the family. Secondly because the women start wailing and saying blaming Allah (na udhubillah) for the death. Thirdly all that automatic and fake wailing makes me laugh, which I have to suppress with all my will power.

Astaghfirullah Im not being mean but it's put on to please the relatives so they think you're in as much pain as they are. I saw a woman wailing for about 3-4 minutes then just like that she stopped and said to the woman next to her, "So how have you been?" lol ;D :offended:

Alhumdulillah I never have to go through that again.
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bint_muhammed
12-12-2006, 07:20 PM
jazakallah guys, all was vey beneficial now i've gotta go and preach it me mum!
salam
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^..sTr!vEr..^
12-12-2006, 08:17 PM
I think once a person dies there is no use in doing all this stuff except for prayerss because the books of that person r closed forever n ever. :)
inshAllah this explains.
~Zulekha~
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AnonymousPoster
03-27-2007, 06:01 AM
Hi,

I have some concerns which I need to sort it out. Firstly, my fellow community muslim people offers prayers which Surah Yasin is recited for 40 days immediately from the date the person has passed away. What is the view of the other muslims ard the world. Cos i know other muslims do not practise this. Is this Bi'da?

Secondly, a woman should wear hijab should consist of covering her awrah rite that includes the hair. Should hair be covered also. My frd states that theres is no need to cover the hair except for the areas to be covered. I have seen women entering mosque without covering their heads to a masjid. Pls help me with this so that i can help to explain to my friend.
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E'jaazi
03-27-2007, 06:43 AM
1) Yes, it's bi'dah

2) A woman must cover everything except her eyes. If someone post something different, I will post the evidence for you.
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Snowflake
03-27-2007, 09:39 AM
Plz post evidence for both matters so we may benefit inshaAllah.

The 40 days of prayer are common in Pakistan. If you tell people this is bida, they bite your head off and say we are deviants. Please provide daleel so that we can prove it inshaAllah.
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Snowflake
03-27-2007, 10:01 AM
That's asking if the person praying get a reward as well. The question is if this 40 days of praying is innovation or not.

My mum tries to drag me to these 'events' or khatams as they call them. I'm like mom, mom there's no such thing in Islam, to which she replies.. I don't know which islam you are learning! hehe ;D
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IbnAbdulHakim
03-27-2007, 10:03 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Muslimah_Sis
My mum tries to drag me to these 'events' or khatams as they call them. I'm like mom, mom there's no such thing in Islam, to which she replies.. I don't know which islam you are learning! hehe ;D
lol ask her how many islams are there lol, subhanAllah she sounds exactly like my mum.

yeah i normally just tell her once and then i just smile while im getting dissed, like so :)

btw sis i know i havent got the evidence, but im like 90% sure that it is a bid'a to do that. Allahu a'lam
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Al-Zaara
03-27-2007, 02:55 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by E'jaazi
1) Yes, it's bi'dah

2) A woman must cover everything except her eyes. If someone post something different, I will post the evidence for you.
Daleel (evidence) to both of those, please.
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Umm Yoosuf
03-27-2007, 03:32 PM
:sl:


I have some concerns which I need to sort it out. Firstly, my fellow community muslim people offers prayers which Surah Yasin is recited for 40 days immediately from the date the person has passed away. What is the view of the other muslims ard the world. Cos i know other muslims do not practise this. Is this Bi'da?

Reading Quran for a Deceased Person

Question:
Is setting a date to meet and read the entire Qur’aan for a deceased person and to pray for him, and doing this every year a bid‘ah.?

Answer:

Praise be to Allaah.

There is no indication in either the Qur’aan or the Sunnah that would prescribe the actions described in the question. Based on this fact, these actions are bid‘ah (a reprehensible innovation) which is not permitted; we should avoid it and warn others not to do it. The Messenger of Allaah (Peace & Blessings of Allaah be upon Him) used to say in his khutbahs (sermons): "The truest of speech is the Book of Allaah, the best guidance is that of Muhammad and the worst of things are those which are newly invented. Every newly-invented thing is a bid‘ah, every bid‘ah is a going astray, and every going astray will end in the Fire of Hell." (Reported by al-Nisaa’i, may Allaah have mercy on him, in al-Sunan, Kitaab salaat al-‘eidayn, no. 1560).

It is permissible to pray for the deceased, without arranging a formal gathering, and without setting a specific date for doing so. We ask Allaah to help us and you to do that which He loves and which will please Him. Allaah knows best.



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What is their proof for this sort of action? :?

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http://muttaqun.com/funerals.html

http://islamqa.com/index.php?ref=9304&ln=eng

http://islamqa.com/index.php?ref=72201&ln=eng

Secondly, a woman should wear hijab should consist of covering her awrah rite that includes the hair. Should hair be covered also. My frd states that theres is no need to cover the hair except for the areas to be covered. I have seen women entering mosque without covering their heads to a masjid. Pls help me with this so that i can help to explain to my friend.

I am quite puzzelded by the question... of course the sister has to cover her hair NOT only that but the whole body and there is difference of opinion regarding the face and the hands. The Hijab has conditions and one of the first condition is that it should cover the whole body.


ore info: http://islamqa.com/index.php?ln=eng&...browse&QR=6991

Allah says:

O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e. screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better, that they should be known (as free respectable women) so as not to be annoyed. And Allaah is Ever Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful”
[al-Ahzaab 33:59]
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- Qatada -
03-27-2007, 03:34 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Muslimah_Sis
That's asking if the person praying get a reward as well. The question is if this 40 days of praying is innovation or not.

My mum tries to drag me to these 'events' or khatams as they call them. I'm like mom, mom there's no such thing in Islam, to which she replies.. I don't know which islam you are learning! hehe ;D

:salamext:


The problem is that the one who does the bid'a needs to give proof for their claim since their doing that act, the one who says it's a bid'a says its a bid'a because they can't find anything from the Qur'an or Sunnah, or the ways of the sahabah who did that act.
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Snowflake
03-28-2007, 11:10 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Fi_Sabilillah
:salamext:


The problem is that the one who does the bid'a needs to give proof for their claim since their doing that act, the one who says it's a bid'a says its a bid'a because they can't find anything from the Qur'an or Sunnah, or the ways of the sahabah who did that act.
my mom's gonna eat me alive if I ask her to bring proof..

who is responsible for these innovations? I need to give my mum hard evidence :exhausted
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- Qatada -
03-28-2007, 01:37 PM
:salamext:


You can tell her that you will pray for her:

The Prophet (Peace be upon him) said : "After the death of a person his actions stop, except three things that he leaves behind : First continuous charity, Second a knowledge from which some benefit may be obtained, Third a virtuous son who makes Dua’ (Pray, supplicate) on his behalf "(Recorded in Sahih Muslim).

Charity will benefit the deceased, as the following Hadiths show : " A man came to the Prophet (Peace be upon him) and asked him : "My father died leaving wealth but no will, would he be pardoned if a charity is given on his behalf ?", the Prophet (P.B.U.H) answered: "Yes" (Muslim).

Another Hadith : "A man came to the Prophet (Peace be upon him) and asked him : "My mother has died without making up for a missed days of fasting in the month of Ramadan, can I fast for her?" , the Prophet (Peace be upon him) said to him : " Would you pay her debt if she owed someone?". The man said : "Yes", then the Prophet (Peace be upon him) said : "Then Allah is more deserving of payment in settlement of his debt" "(Bukhari & Muslim).


So from the previous authentic Hadiths there are generally three things that benefit the dead:

1) Charity; Continuous Charity ;

2) A knowledge left by the deceased from which some benefit may be obtained;

3) A virtuous son or daughter who makes Dua’ (Pray, supplicate) on the deceased’s behalf, or perform duties that the deceased did not do during his/her lifetime such as fasting missed days or Hajj, or pay his/her debts.
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samah12
03-28-2007, 04:15 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Umm Yahyah
:sl:

Allah says:

O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e. screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better, that they should be known (as free respectable women) so as not to be annoyed. And Allaah is Ever Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful”
[al-Ahzaab 33:59]
Please tell me where the i.e. comes from. I have 2 Qurans and neither say anything about screening completely except the eyes.

I dont know how to insert a link so I cut and pasted the following from www.quraan.com (hope I am allowed to do that?).

And tell the believing women to lower their gaze and guard their private parts from sin and not show of their adornment except only that which is apparent, and draw their headcovers over their necks and bosoms and not reveal their adornment except to their husbands, their fathers, their husbands' fathers, their sons, their husbands' sons, their brothers, or their brothers' sons, or their sisters' sons, or their women (i.e., their sisters in Islam), or their female slaves whom their right hands possess, or old male servants free of physical desires, or small children who have no sense of women's nakedness. And let them not stamp their feet so as to reveal what they hide of their adornment. And turn unto Allah altogether, O you Believers, in order that you may attain success.[An-Nur, 24:31]

The word zeenah in the aayah above, literally means "adornment", and includes both (a) that which Allah has adorned, i.e., the woman's natural and/or physical beauty, and (b) that with which they adorn themselves, i.e., jewelry, eye shadow, attractive clothing, hand dye, etc. Soorat An-Nur spells out specifically the commands concerning the fact that a woman's natural beauty and her adornments are to be concealed from strangers except by (1) What may show due to accidental or uncontrollable factors such as the blowing of the wind, etc., and (2) What has been exempted (see explanation at end of this section). Allah also says:

O Prophet, Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their outer garments about themselves (when they go out). That is better so that they may be recognised and not molested. And Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. [Al-Ahzaab, 33:59]

Abu Dawood narrates that `Aishah (RAA) said: "Asmaa' the daughter of Abu Bakr (RAA) came to see the Messenger of Allah (SAAWS) wearing a thin dress; so Allah's Messenger (SAAWS) turned away from her and said: O Asmaa', once a woman reaches the age of menstruation, no part of her body should be seen but this-and he pointed to his face and hands.


This is certainly what I have been taught and what both of my Qurans say, no mention of covering the face and the Hadith from Abu Dawood is accepted as authentic is it not?
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Snowflake
03-29-2007, 08:43 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Fi_Sabilillah
:salamext:


You can tell her that you will pray for her:

The Prophet (Peace be upon him) said : "After the death of a person his actions stop, except three things that he leaves behind : First continuous charity, Second a knowledge from which some benefit may be obtained, Third a virtuous son who makes Dua’ (Pray, supplicate) on his behalf "(Recorded in Sahih Muslim).

Charity will benefit the deceased, as the following Hadiths show : " A man came to the Prophet (Peace be upon him) and asked him : "My father died leaving wealth but no will, would he be pardoned if a charity is given on his behalf ?", the Prophet (P.B.U.H) answered: "Yes" (Muslim).

Another Hadith : "A man came to the Prophet (Peace be upon him) and asked him : "My mother has died without making up for a missed days of fasting in the month of Ramadan, can I fast for her?" , the Prophet (Peace be upon him) said to him : " Would you pay her debt if she owed someone?". The man said : "Yes", then the Prophet (Peace be upon him) said : "Then Allah is more deserving of payment in settlement of his debt" "(Bukhari & Muslim).


So from the previous authentic Hadiths there are generally three things that benefit the dead:

1) Charity; Continuous Charity ;

2) A knowledge left by the deceased from which some benefit may be obtained;

3) A virtuous son or daughter who makes Dua’ (Pray, supplicate) on the deceased’s behalf, or perform duties that the deceased did not do during his/her lifetime such as fasting missed days or Hajj, or pay his/her debts.
jazakAllah khair, she knows the above but I can understand how annoying it is for parents when their children start refraining from practices they have been brought up with. She's cool otherwise :happy:

also do you know the origin of khatams etc... I apply them to sufi beliefs but I'm not sure about it :?
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siFilam
03-29-2007, 08:54 AM
:salamext:
format_quote Originally Posted by Anonymous Tester
Hi,
Secondly, a woman should wear hijab should consist of covering her awrah rite that includes the hair. Should hair be covered also. My frd states that theres is no need to cover the hair except for the areas to be covered. I have seen women entering mosque without covering their heads to a masjid. Pls help me with this so that i can help to explain to my friend.
If you are a Hanafi, then it is wajib or obligatory to cover your face. Please correct me if I am wrong, for a Shafi'i it is Fard. so obviously your hair has to be covered.
and Allah knows best.
wasalam
-SI-
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E'jaazi
03-29-2007, 09:15 AM
Ruling on preventing women with improper hijab from entering the mosque

Question:

Is it permissible to prohibit women who are not covered in the proper islaamic covering from entering the masjid ? (after they have been given the proper naseeha) Please advise the daleel.
Jazzakallahu khayrun

Answer:

Praise be to Allaah Alone, and peace and blessings be upon him after whom there is no Prophet.

If a woman comes to the mosque wearing improper hijab, then according to Islam she should be advised and have explained to her – with the daleel or proof –
, and the seriousness of neglecting it. If she then complies, then praise be to Allah. If she does not comply, then do not let her enter, because of the fitnah (temptation) and evil involved in her actions. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Any woman who has put on bukhoor (incense, fragrance) should not attend this ‘Isha’ prayer with us.” (Reported by Muslim, 675). And he (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said concerning women’s going out to the mosque: “Let them go out unperfumed” (reported by Abu Dawood, 478), i.e., not wearing any perfume. Women have to go out wearing complete Islamic hijab, and not wearing adornment or perfume. And Allaah knows best.



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E'jaazi
03-29-2007, 09:25 AM
Verses and hadeeth about hijab

Question:

Could u please supply me with some qoutes from the Hadith and Quran on the impotance of hijab for women.

Answer:

Praise be to Allaah.

Verses that have to do with hijab:

1 – Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And tell the believing women to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things), and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts) and not to show off their adornment except only that which is apparent (like both eyes for necessity to see the way, or outer palms of hands or one eye or dress like veil, gloves, headcover, apron), and to draw their veils all over Juyoobihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms) and not to reveal their adornment except to their husbands, or their fathers, or their husband’s fathers, or their sons, or their husband’s sons, or their brothers or their brother’s sons, or their sister’s sons, or their (Muslim) women (i.e. their sisters in Islam), or the (female) slaves whom their right hands possess, or old male servants who lack vigour, or small children who have no sense of feminine sex. And let them not stamp their feet so as to reveal what they hide of their adornment. And all of you beg Allaah to forgive you all, O believers, that you may be successful”

[al-Noor 24:31]

2 – Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And as for women past childbearing who do not expect wedlock, it is no sin on them if they discard their (outer) clothing in such a way as not to show their adornment. But to refrain (i.e. not to discard their outer clothing) is better for them. And Allaah is All‑Hearer, All‑Knower”

[al-Noor 24:60]

“Women past childbearing” are those who no longer menstruate, so they can no longer get pregnant or bear children.

We shall see below the words of Hafsah bint Sireen and the way in which she interpreted this verse.

3 – Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e. screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better, that they should be known (as free respectable women) so as not to be annoyed. And Allaah is Ever Oft‑Forgiving, Most Merciful”

[al-Ahzaab 33:59]

4 – Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“O you who believe! Enter not the Prophet’s houses, unless permission is given to you for a meal, (and then) not (so early as) to wait for its preparation. But when you are invited, enter, and when you have taken your meal, disperse without sitting for a talk. Verily, such (behaviour) annoys the Prophet, and he is shy of (asking) you (to go); but Allaah is not shy of (telling you) the truth. And when you ask (his wives) for anything you want, ask them from behind a screen, that is purer for your hearts and for their hearts. And it is not (right) for you that you should annoy Allaah’s Messenger, nor that you should ever marry his wives after him (his death). Verily, with Allaah that shall be an enormity”

[al-Ahzaab 33:53]

With regard to the Ahaadeeth:

1 – It was narrated from Safiyyah bint Shaybah that ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) used to say: When these words were revealed – “and to draw their veils all over Juyoobihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms)” – they took their izaars (a kind of garment) and tore them from the edges and covered their faces with them.

Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 4481. The following version was narrated by Abu Dawood (4102):

May Allaah have mercy on the Muhaajir women. When Allaah revealed the words “and to draw their veils all over Juyoobihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms)”, they tore the thickest of their aprons (a kind of garment) and covered their faces with them.

Shaykh Muhammad al-Ameen al-Shanqeeti (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

This hadeeth clearly states that what the Sahaabi women mentioned here understood from this verse – “and to draw their veils all over Juyoobihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms)” – was that they were to cover their faces, and that they tore their garments and covered their faces with them, in obedience to the command of Allaah in the verse where He said “and to draw their veils all over Juyoobihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms)” which meant covering their faces. Thus the fair-minded person will understand that woman’s observing hijab and covering her face in front of men is established in the saheeh Sunnah that explains the Book of Allaah. ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) praised those women for hastening to follow the command of Allaah given in His Book. It is known that their understanding of the words “and to draw their veils all over Juyoobihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms)” as meaning covering the face came from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), because he was there and they asked him about everything that they did not understand about their religion. And Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And We have also sent down unto you (O Muhammad) the Dhikr [reminder and the advice (i.e. the Qur’aan)], that you may explain clearly to men what is sent down to them, and that they may give thought”

[al-Nahl 16:44]

Ibn Hajar said in Fath al-Baari: There is a report of Ibn Abi Haatim via ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Uthmaan ibn Khaytham from Safiyyah that explains that. This report says: We mentioned the women of Quraysh and their virtues in the presence of ‘Aa’ishah and she said: “The women of Quraysh are good, but by Allaah I have never seen any better than the women of the Ansaar, or any who believed the Book of Allaah more strongly or had more faith in the Revelation. When Soorat al-Noor was revealed – “and to draw their veils all over Juyoobihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms)” – their menfolk came to them and recited to them what had been revealed, and there was not one woman among them who did not go to her apron, and the following morning they prayed wrapped up as if there were crows on their heads. It was also narrated clearly in the report of al-Bukhaari narrated above, where we see ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her), who was so knowledgeable and pious, praising them in this manner and stating that she had never seen any women who believed the Book of Allaah more strongly or had more faith in the Revelation. This clearly indicates that they understood from this verse – “and to draw their veils all over Juyoobihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms)” – that it was obligatory to cover their faces and that this stemmed from their belief in the Book of Allaah and their faith in the Revelation. It also indicates that women’s observing hijab in front of men and covering their faces is an act of belief in the Book of Allaah and faith in the Revelation. It is very strange indeed that some of those who claim to have knowledge say that there is nothing in the Qur’aan or Sunnah that says that women have to cover their faces in front of non-mahram men, even though the Sahaabi women did that in obedience to the command of Allaah in His Book, out of faith in the Revelation, and that this meaning is also firmly entrenched in the Sunnah, as in the report from al-Bukhaari quoted above. This is among the strongest evidence that all Muslim women are obliged to observe hijab.

Adwa’ al-Bayaan, 6/594-595.

2 – It was narrated from ‘Aa’ishah that the wives of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) used to go out at night to al-Manaasi’ (well known places in the direction of al-Baqee’) to relieve themselves and ‘Umar used to say to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), “Let your wives be veiled.” But the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did not do that. Then one night Sawdah bint Zam’ah, the wife of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), went out at ‘Isha’ time and she was a tall woman. ‘Umar called out to her: “We have recognized you, O Sawdah!” hoping that hijab would be revealed, then Allaah revealed the verse of hijab.

Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 146; Muslim, 2170.

3 – It was narrated from Ibn Shihaab that Anas said: I am the most knowledgeable of people about hijab. Ubayy ibn Ka’b used to ask me about it. When the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) married Zaynab bint Jahsh, whom he married in Madeenah, he invited the people to a meal after the sun had risen. The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) sat down and some men sat around him after the people had left, until the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) stood up and walked a while, and I walked with him, until he reached the door of ‘Aa’ishah’s apartment. Then he thought that they had left so he went back and I went back with him, and they were still sitting there. He went back again, and I went with him, until he reached the door of ‘Aa’ishah’s apartment, then he came back and I came back with him, and they had left. Then he drew a curtain between me and him, and the verse of hijab was revealed.

Al-Bukhaari, 5149; Muslim, 1428.

4 – It was narrated from ‘Urwah that ‘Aa’ishah said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) used to pray Fajr and the believing women would attend (the prayer) with him, wrapped in their aprons, then they would go back to their houses and no one would recognize them.

Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 365; Muslim, 645.

5 – It was narrated that ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) said: “The riders used to pass by us when we were with the Messenger of Allaah (S) in ihraam, and when they drew near to us we would lower our jilbabs from our heads over our faces, then when they had passed we would uncover them again.

Narrated by Abu Dawood, 1833; Ibn Maajah, 2935; classed as saheeh by Ibn Khuzaymah (4,203) and by al-Albaani in Kitaab Jilbaab al-Mar’ah al-Muslimah.

6 – It was narrated that Asma’ bint Abi Bakr said: We used to cover our faces in front of men.

Narrated by Ibn Khuzaymah, 4/203; al-Haakim, 1/624. He classed it as saheeh and al-Dhahabi agreed with him. It was also classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Jilbaab al-Mar’ah al-Muslimah.

7 – It was narrated that ‘Aasim al-Ahwaal said: We used to enter upon Hafsah bint Sireen who had put her jilbab thus and covered her face with it, and we would say to her: May Allaah have mercy on you. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “And as for women past childbearing who do not expect wedlock, it is no sin on them if they discard their (outer) clothing in such a way as not to show their adornment” [al-Noor 24:60]. And she would say to us: What comes after that? We would say: “But to refrain (i.e. not to discard their outer clothing) is better for them”. And she would say: That is confirming the idea of hijab.

Narrated by al-Bayhaqi, 7/93.

For more information please see Question no. 6991.

And Allaah knows best.

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E'jaazi
03-29-2007, 09:28 AM
Part 2


Correct Hijaab

Question:

I wanted to know about a matter consurning the RIGHT hijaab
What is the proper hijaab? I mean so many differnt hijaabs are to choose from, And I have this friend from Denmark and she converted to Islam for a while now, and she's pleased ( ALhamduli_Allah) and she want to wear the right Hijaab.
Could you please tell us wear it says that the hijaab SHOULD be LONG (JILBAAB) over the cheas! she really needs this! thank you

Answer:

Praise be to Allaah.

Shaykh al-Albaani (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

The conditions of hijaab:

Firstly:

(It should cover all the body apart from whatever has been exempted).

Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e. screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better, that they should be known (as free respectable women) so as not to be annoyed. And Allaah is Ever Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.”

This aayah clearly states that it is obligatory to cover all of a woman’s beauty and adornments and not to display any part of that before non-mahram men (“strangers”) except for whatever appears unintentionally, in which case there will be no sin on them if they hasten to cover it up.

Al-Haafiz ibn Katheer said in his Tafseer:

This means that they should not display any part of their adornment to non-mahrams, apart from that which it is impossible to conceal. Ibn Mas’ood said: such as the cloak and robe, i.e., what the women of the Arabs used to wear, an outer garment which covered whatever the woman was wearing, except for whatever appeared from beneath the outer garment. There is no sin on a woman with regard to this because it is impossible to conceal it.

Secondly

(it should not be an adornment in and of itself).

Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“… and not to show off their adornment…” [al-Noor 24:31]. The general meaning of this phrase includes the outer garment, because if it is decorated it will attract men’s attention to her. This is supported by the aayah in Soorat al-Ahzaab (interpretation of the meaning):

“And stay in your houses, and do not display yourselves like that of the times of ignorance” [al-Ahzaab 33:33]. It is also supported by the hadeeth in which the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “There are three, do not ask me about them: a man who leaves the jamaa’ah, disobeys his leader and dies disobedient; a female or male slave who runs away then dies; and a woman whose husband is absent and left her with everything she needs, and after he left she made a wanton display of herself. Do not ask about them.”

(Narrated by al-Haakim, 1/119; Ahmad, 6/19; from the hadeeth of Faddaalah bint ‘Ubayd. Its isnaad is saheeh and it is in al-Adab al-Mufrad).

Thirdly:

(It should be thick and not transparent or “see-thru”)

- because it cannot cover properly otherwise. Transparent or see-thru clothing makes a woman more tempting and beautiful. Concerning this the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “During the last days of my ummah there will be women who are clothed but naked, with something on their heads like the humps of camels. Curse them, for they are cursed.” Another hadeeth adds: “They will not enter Paradise or even smell its fragrance, although its fragrance can be detected from such and such a distance.”

(Narrated by Muslim from the report of Abu Hurayrah).

Ibn ‘Abd al-Barr said: what the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) meant was women who wear clothes made of light fabric which describes and does not cover. They are clothed in name but naked in reality.

Transmitted by al-Suyooti in Tanweer al-Hawaalik, 3/103.

Fourthly:

(It should be loose, not tight so that it describes any part of the body).

The purpose of clothing is to prevent fitnah (temptation), and this can only be achieved if clothes are wide and loose. Tight clothes, even if they conceal the colour of the skin, still describe the size and shape of the body or part of it, and create a vivid image in the minds of men. The corruption or invitation to corruption that is inherent in that is quite obvious. So the clothes must be wide. Usaamah ibn Zayd said: “The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) gave me a thick Egyptian garment that was one of the gifts given to him by Duhyat al-Kalbi, and I gave it to my wife to wear. He said, ‘Why do I not see you wearing that Egyptian garment?’ I said, ‘I gave it to my wife to wear.’ He said, ‘Tell her to wear a gown underneath it, for I am afraid that it may describe the size of her bones.’” (Narrated by al-Diyaa’ al-Maqdisi in al-Ahaadeeth al-Mukhtaarah, 1/442, and by Ahmad and al-Bayhaqi, with a hasan isnaad).

Fifthly:

(It should not be perfumed with bakhoor or fragrance)

There are many ahaadeeth which forbid women to wear perfume when they go out of their houses. We will quote here some of those which have saheeh isnaads:

Abu Moosa al-Ash’ari said: the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Any woman who puts on perfume then passes by people so that they can smell her fragrance, is an adulteress.”

Zaynab al-Thaqafiyyah reported that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “If any one of you (women) goes out to the mosque, let her not touch any perfume.”

Abu Hurayrah said: the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Any woman who has scented herself with bakhoor (incense), let her not attend ‘Ishaa’ prayers with us.”

Moosa ibn Yassaar said that a woman passed by Abu Hurayrah and her scent was overpowering. He said, “O female slave of al-Jabbaar, are you going to the mosque?” She said, “Yes,” He said, “And have you put on perfume because of that?” She said, “Yes.” He said, “Go back and wash yourself, for I heard the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say: ‘If a woman comes out to the mosque and her fragrance is overpowering, Allaah will not accept any prayer from her until she goes home and washes herself.’”

These ahaadeeth are general in implication. Just as the prohibition covers perfume applied to the body, it also covers perfume applied to the clothes, especially in the third hadeeth, where bakhoor (incense) is mentioned, because incense is used specifically to perfume the clothes.

The reason for this prohibition is quite clear, which is that women’s fragrance may cause undue provocation of desires. The scholars also included other things under this heading of things to be avoided by women who want to go to the mosque, such as beautiful clothes, jewellery that can be seen, excessive adornments and mingling with men. See Fath al-Baari, 2/279.

Ibn Daqeeq al-‘Eed said:

This indicates that it is forbidden for a woman who wants to go to the mosque to wear perfume, because this causes provocation of men’s desires. This was reported by al-Manaawi in Fayd al-Qadeer, in the commentary on the first hadeeth of Abu Hurayrah quoted above.

Sixthly:

(It should not resemble the clothing of men)

It was reported in the saheeh ahaadeeth that a woman who imitates men in dress or in other ways is cursed. There follow some of the ahaadeeth that we know:

Abu Hurayrah said: “The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) cursed the man who wears women’s clothes, and the woman who wears men’s clothes.”

‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Amr said: I heard the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say: ‘They are not part of us, the women who imitate men and the men who imitate women.’”

Ibn ‘Abbaas said: “The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) cursed effeminate men and masculine women. He said, ‘Throw them out of your houses.’” He said: “The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) expelled So and so, and ‘Umar expelled So and so.” According to another version: “The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) cursed men who imitate women and women who imitate men.”

‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Amr said: “The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘There are three who will not enter Paradise and Allaah will not even look at them on the Day of Resurrection: one who disobeys his parents, a woman who imitates men, and the duyooth (cuckold, weak man who feels no jealousy over his womenfolk).”

Ibn Abi Maleekah – whose name was ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Ubayd-Allaah – said: “It was said to ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her), ‘What if a woman wears (men’s) sandals?’ She said: ‘The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) cursed women who act like men.’”

These ahaadeeth clearly indicate that it is forbidden for women to imitate men and vice versa, This usually includes dress and other matters, apart from the first hadeeth quoted above, which refers to dress only.

Abu Dawood said, in Masaa’il al-Imaam Ahmad (p. 261): “I heard Ahmad being asked about a man who dresses his slave woman in a tunic. He said, ‘Do not clothe her in men’s garments, do not make her look like a man.” Abu Dawood said: “I said to Ahmad, Can he give her bachelor sandals to wear? He said, No, unless she wears them to do wudoo’. I said, What about for beauty? He said, No. I said, Can he cut her hair short? He said, No.”

Seventhly:

(It should not resemble the dress of kaafir women).

It is stated in sharee’ah that Muslims, men and women alike, should not resemble or imitate the kuffaar with regard to worship, festivals or clothing that is specific to them. This is an important Islamic principle which nowadays, unfortunately, is neglected by many Muslims, even those who care about religion and calling others to Islam. This is due either to ignorance of their religion, or because they are following their own whims and desires, or because of deviation, combined with modern customs and imitation of kaafir Europe. This was one of the causes of the Muslims’ decline and weakness, which enabled the foreigners to overwhelm and colonize them. “…Verily, Allaah will not change the condition of a people as long as they do not change their state themselves …” [al-Ra’d 13:11 – interpretation of the meaning]. If only they knew.

It should be known that there is a great deal of saheeh evidence for these important rules in the Qur’aan and Sunnah, and that the evidence in the Qur’aan is elaborated upon in the Sunnah, as is always the case.

Eighthly:

(It should not be a garment of fame and vanity).

Ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: “The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘Whoever wears a garment of fame and vanity in this world, Allaah will clothe him in a garment of humiliation on the Day of Resurrection, then He will cause Fire to flame up around him.’”

(Hijaab al-Mar’ah al-Muslimah, p. 54-67).

And Allaah knows best.

Hijaab al-Mar’ah al-Muslimah, p. 54-67



















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Umu 'Isa
03-31-2007, 01:01 PM
:salamext: sis,
You might want to read this about bid'ah hasanah http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ref=864&ln=eng&txt=good%20bid'ah

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Snowflake
03-31-2007, 01:47 PM
JazakAllah khair sis :)

The link helped clear my confusion a great deal. I can see now why Islam rejects such innovations. That is because most people begin to associate them to the sunnah of the Prophet (PBUH) and spread falsehood of them being a necessity when they clearly are not. Thank you.
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