Religions of allah before islam?

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Allah had other religions before islam came didnt he?

I belong to a religion wich is based on an even older religion. The religion of the one god. Is it possible that this one god is the same one god muhammed talked about?

The Avesta are the oldest scriptures talking about messiahs, heaven and hell, one god, angels et c. Some texts like arash the archer goes back 8000 years. Zoroaster came back talking about the comming 3 messiahs, born from virgin mothers of gods seed.

And he predicted one, that will be born 1000 years later under the star of david. 1000 years later 3 zoroastrian priests followed the star and there was gods messenger Jesus. You can find it in the bible they even say "predicted by the prophet".

Quote from the KJV bible. Book of matthew.
[1] Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem,
[2] Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him.
[3] When Herod the king had heard these things, he was troubled, and all Jerusalem with him.
[4] And when he had gathered all the chief priests and scribes of the people together, he demanded of them where Christ should be born.
[5] And they said unto him, In Bethlehem of Judaea: for thus it is written by the prophet,

The prediction was in the Avesta,

A Zoroaster converted into muslim said that there was an avesta mentioning Muhammed as the finall prophet. The Avestas are not neatly kept in a book as in islam, it is many texts, all are mostly lost, some are kept, the oldest from around 8000 years ago.

If judaism is also gods religion, or a people of the book. Then can Zoroastrianism be it to? I mean, it is more like islam than judaism. "Good Thoughts, Good Words, Good deeds", and its the oldest religion mentioning one and only god, angels, heaven and hell "the beginning and the end".
Its also not racist as judaism only restricted to Jews.

So my point is, is it possible that Zoroastrianism can be one of the religions of god before muhammed that islam speaks of?
 
Sinbad said:
Allah had other religions before islam came didnt he?

I belong to a religion wich is based on an even older religion. The religion of the one god. Is it possible that this one god is the same one god muhammed talked about?

The Avesta are the oldest scriptures talking about messiahs, heaven and hell, one god, angels et c. Some texts like arash the archer goes back 8000 years. Zoroaster came back talking about the comming 3 messiahs, born from virgin mothers of gods seed.

And he predicted one, that will be born 1000 years later under the star of david. 1000 years later 3 zoroastrian priests followed the star and there was gods messenger Jesus. You can find it in the bible they even say "predicted by the prophet".

Quote from the KJV bible. Book of matthew.
[1] Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem,
[2] Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him.
[3] When Herod the king had heard these things, he was troubled, and all Jerusalem with him.
[4] And when he had gathered all the chief priests and scribes of the people together, he demanded of them where Christ should be born.
[5] And they said unto him, In Bethlehem of Judaea: for thus it is written by the prophet,

The prediction was in the Avesta,

A Zoroaster converted into muslim said that there was an avesta mentioning Muhammed as the finall prophet. The Avestas are not neatly kept in a book as in islam, it is many texts, all are mostly lost, some are kept, the oldest from around 8000 years ago.

If judaism is also gods religion, or a people of the book. Then can Zoroastrianism be it to? I mean, it is more like islam than judaism. "Good Thoughts, Good Words, Good deeds", and its the oldest religion mentioning one and only god, angels, heaven and hell "the beginning and the end".
Its also not racist as judaism only restricted to Jews.

So my point is, is it possible that Zoroastrianism can be one of the religions of god before muhammed that islam speaks of?
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Greetings,

Zoroastrianism can never be one of the religions God have revealed through inspiration
.and you offered us the proof when you said:

Zoroaster came back talking about the comming 3 messiahs, born from virgin mothers of gods seed.
And he predicted one, that will be born 1000 years later under the star of david. 1000 years later 3 zoroastrian priests followed the star and there was gods messenger Jesus.

If that is right and If the people from your religion said as in Matthew

(Where is he that is born King of the Jews?)
that means that Zoroaster made a false prophecy.because Jesus never been a king to the Jews .
really interesting to prove not only the new testament not the word of God but the religion of ahora mazda to be false too.


peace
 
Welcome Sinbad

I have always been curious about the burial practices of Zoroastrians. can you please tell me if it is true that you have these towers of silence? if that is still a practice carried on today? and where in Iran exactly are most of the Zoroastrians concentrated? Also if there are Zoroastrians outside of Iran? Also if a follower of your religion dies abroad do they have to be shipped home? Also can you tell us something about your calendar? and what you celebrate and worship?
thank you
 
snakelegs said:
sinbad,
welcome to the forum. it's cool to have a zorastrian here. a first, i believe.
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I am afraid we scared him off? :X
Should have have limited myself to a Q per day ha? lol
I have never come across a Zoroastrian before-- and I consider myself reasonably well traveled-- I hope this thread proves interesting.... :-[
 
back_to_faith said:
Here one of the best sources about zoroastrians online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoroastrians
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thanks - but it's not the same as interacting with one.


I am afraid we scared him off?
Should have have limited myself to a Q per day ha? lol
I have never come across a Zoroastrian before-- and I consider myself reasonably well traveled-- I hope this thread proves interesting....
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i think he'll be back - he may have found something more interesting to do.
 
wilberhum said:
Because this is as fun as it gets. :D At least for an outcast that enjoys harmless insults. :?
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Indeed you have grown on everyone like a tuft of hair over a spina bifida occulta.... But I hardly see you as an outcast... you are very much an insider.......

here here for the newbies :giggling:
 
PurestAmbrosia said:
Indeed you have grown on everyone like a tuft of hair over a spina bifida occulta.... But I hardly see you as an outcast... you are very much an insider.......

here here for the newbies :giggling:
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Now, now, don't destroy my image. :skeleton:
If I say "I'm an outsider", then "I'm an outsider".
I had not received a harmless insult I could enjoy for days.
That is why I quoted you. I knew that you would give me my daily supply. :D

Enjoy but lets not scare off the Zoroastrian. This thread is for him, not us.
 
But what are you saying? Zoroastrianism cant be a part of pre islamic religions of god, but judaism can? Islam and Zoroastrianism has A LOT incommon, judaism and islam has nothing incommon.

I belive that Zoroastrianism is islam before muhammed, You see muhammed brought back an old one god religion, i belive it could be zoroastrianism

Out Calendar is very intressting, the ancient persians knew that the earth was round, and they know that the sun was in the center of the universe et c.

Persian new year, or "nevrous" is based on it, you calculate when at the exact time the eart will be in position to make the days longer than the nights, thats how spring starts. Christian new year, is the same day everey time, even if the years become longer everey year cause the earth changes moves.
 
But what are you saying? Zoroastrianism cant be a part of pre islamic religions of god, but judaism can? Islam and Zoroastrianism has A LOT incommon, judaism and islam has nothing incommon.
I belive that Zoroastrianism is islam before muhammed, You see muhammed brought back an old one god religion, i belive it could be zoroastrianism
Out Calendar is very intressting, the ancient persians knew that the earth was round, and they know that the sun was in the center of the universe et c.
Persian new year, or "nevrous" is based on it, you calculate when at the exact time the eart will be in position to make the days longer than the nights, thats how spring starts. Christian new year, is the same day everey time, even if the years become longer everey year cause the earth changes moves.
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If Zoroastrianism is the true religion, why dont they allow converts, and why are they in danger of dissapearing altogether? Zoroastrianism is not really a religion per se, it is a cultural identity. If the Greeks hadn't been Christianized they would still probably believe in their Olympian deities, and it would become politically incorrect to write books about Greek "Mythology". Islam has nothing in common with the fire-worshipping cult. Zarusthra may or may not have been a Prophet, Allah Taala knows best about that, but if he was, the religion he taught was nothing but Islam. Islam is the true and original religion, judaism, christianity, and zoroastrianism are manmade religions.
 
Talha777 said:
Islam is the true and original religion, judaism, christianity, and zoroastrianism are manmade religions.
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All religions are man-made. They are just different ways of approaching the same ultimate reality, as far as mankind is able.
 
Abrahamic religions aren't man made!... Now, can we please stay on the topic of Zoroastrianism for the purpose of learning not a heated debate... we can start the "man-made religions" on some other thread...

Sinbad can you tell us of the burial rituals of Zoroastrians and of their significance pls
thank you
 
Talha777 said:
If Zoroastrianism is the true religion, why dont they allow converts, and why are they in danger of dissapearing altogether? Zoroastrianism is not really a religion per se, it is a cultural identity. If the Greeks hadn't been Christianized they would still probably believe in their Olympian deities, and it would become politically incorrect to write books about Greek "Mythology". Islam has nothing in common with the fire-worshipping cult. Zarusthra may or may not have been a Prophet, Allah Taala knows best about that, but if he was, the religion he taught was nothing but Islam. Islam is the true and original religion, judaism, christianity, and zoroastrianism are manmade religions.
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First of all Zoroastrians accept converts, that they dont is a lie, just as muslims belive 9/11 was a gift of god. Second of all dont call my religion fire worshipping cult, you must learn to respect other people. shame on you.

Yes zoroastrianism is fying out, it gets more and more members but its not real zoroastrians, only people sick of the islamic regime and want the old persian religion.

Zoroastrianism isnt needed now that christianity is here.
http://www.geocities.com/barnabas_yohannes/magi.htm

You see, Zoroaster predicted Jesus, the 3 wise men where zoroastrians. Christianity and Zoroaster are proven to be connected. Now islam, how does islam fit in to this? There is no bridge to have a direct connection between christianity and islam. Bt still muslims belive it cause of faith.

Faith is all that religion is about, but its not proof like christ and zoroaster.

So please dont call my religion fire worshipping cult, and just saying its not gods religion when its proven, if islam is gods religion is still debateball for me, but thats why im here to find out.
 
Sinbad said:
First of all Zoroastrians accept converts, that they dont is a lie, just as muslims belive 9/11 was a gift of god. Second of all dont call my religion fire worshipping cult, you must learn to respect other people. shame on you.

Yes zoroastrianism is fying out, it gets more and more members but its not real zoroastrians, only people sick of the islamic regime and want the old persian religion.

Zoroastrianism isnt needed now that christianity is here.
http://www.geocities.com/barnabas_yohannes/magi.htm

You see, Zoroaster predicted Jesus, the 3 wise men where zoroastrians. Christianity and Zoroaster are proven to be connected. Now islam, how does islam fit in to this? There is no bridge to have a direct connection between christianity and islam. Bt still muslims belive it cause of faith.

Faith is all that religion is about, but its not proof like christ and zoroaster.

So please dont call my religion fire worshipping cult, and just saying its not gods religion when its proven, if islam is gods religion is still debateball for me, but thats why im here to find out.
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hMM..., My friend, Moses perdicted jesus, so did David, solomon etc. Zorro may (in your opinion) have perdicted jesus, but jesus perdicted Muhammad (SAW), as did Moses. Did moses perdict zorro? did jesus confirm and say im the one Zorro perdicted?

Friend, you have confirmed my religion true, There is No God but Allah(The One and Only True God who is neither male nor female, Who Has no comparison,and is Beyond everything) and Muhammad(SAW) is His LAST AND FINAL MESSENGER.
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Islâm was the first religion on earth. Adam (AS) was a Muslim.

Peace.
 
Thats the thing, there is said to be a zoroastrian avesta predicting muhammed thats why a zoroastrian i talked to converted into islam. He said that Muhammed was the last messenger of the only god.

But how can you reject an 8000 year old religion, much older than judaism that speaks of one god, and heaven, and angels? The word Paradise comes from zoroastrian paradise. And Magi means zoroastrian imams.

And Islam speaks of older religions from allah before islam came.

So how can you just reject zoroastrianism and embrace judaism if the latter has nothing incommon with islam?
 

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