School Kid Breaks The Rules And Gets Whipped For It

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:omg: that's not nice... poor kid!
the kid must have done something baaaaad!
but still it's a bit harsh dont you think:?
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This is the only way to keep kids under control, kids these days are too darn spoilt! A few beatings will put them straight, there's no such thing as 'childrens' rights' because kids too stupid to understand and appreciate the rights they have.

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It is a little harsh don't you think.In Hifz class we were never whipped or anything..i suppose we were lucky..Alhamdulillah
 
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That is scary. I hope that kid actually did something really bad to have deserved that treatment. :uuh:
 
i dont know what happened with the kid, can't judge but yeah, some kids need that, bc they don't listen, and if they don't get a punishment like that , they will win the heart of the teachers and always repeat their action. so i think this kid will never repeat it again. and the teacher was just giving a whip in his hands, so it's not something like beating that you break a bone or cause a serious injury.
They used to do it in our school but with a ruler or a a small thin tree branch
 
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Hitting the child especially in class for Islamic learning or Hifz is good because if children mess about and interrupt the lesson then a lesson should be taught to the child who caused it, it is the way to keep discipline and respect for the Imam and the learning as going to the Masjid is for learning not to play or mess about.
But sometimes it is harsh the beatings but at the end of the day it is for their own good as they learn from it.

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AsalamuAlaykum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh Wa Maghfiratuh
 
I don't agree with whipping but I'm all for the cane. If the kid doesn't learn and is a constant pain then yeh whip them especially the chavs.
 
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It's not the way of Allaah's Messenger (peace be upon him) to whip kids or anything like that, especially when teaching Qur'an. :( subhan Allaah.
 
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Yes...Because if we don't then this happens^
 
Fi_Sabilillah said:
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It's not the way of Allaah's Messenger (peace be upon him) to whip kids or anything like that, especially when teaching Qur'an. :( subhan Allaah.
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Yeah and Children will link Islam to violence it's just not right in the mosque a lil slap here and there is okay :p

But i don't think the imams should be beating up kids like they do now, i won't ever let my siblings go to a mosque after what i saw i left the mosques and learnt at home pefectly fine and now some of my freinds teach my lil sister, hopefully will send my lil brother to a good madrassa :D InshaAllah

Peace.
 
Although I do agree that beating a child lightly is beneficial in him/her learning humility and discipline, I don't agree with them doing this is mosques, especially not when learning Qur'an. It's better to let the child love it than to have it bring back bad memories. Some kids can be real trouble-makers and need to be disciplined, but I don't think that an imam is the one to do it. He should tell the parents and they should act accordingly.
 
Hitting children

Author: Sheikh Muhammad Naasir Ad-Deen Al-Albaani

Question: "The teacher may sometimes turn to hitting in order to discipline is student. Firstly, is it permissible to hit the student? Secondly, is it permissible to hit him in the face?"

Answer: "As far as hitting in the face, this is not permissible due to the statement of the Prophet, may peace and blessings be upon him, "Do not hit the face and do not defigure." Regarding the second part, is it permissible to hit the student in general as a means of discipline; the answer must make mention of the statement of the Prophet, "Command your children to pray when they reach the age of seven and hit them if they leave it off when they reach the age of ten and separate them from each other in the beds."

"In this hadeeth is a proof that for the student, rather the child, whether he is a student or not, it is not permissible for the one in charge of him to hit him due to his deficiency in obeying the commands until he reaches the age of ten. Command your children to pray when they reach the age of seven and hit them if they leave it off when they reach the age of ten and separate them from each other in the beds. Without a doubt, the Hukm (ruling) or Ahimiyah (importance) of whatever knowledge any teacher wants to present to his students will not be equal to the importance of prayer. Therefore, if the Prophet himself prohibits the father from hitting his child due to not praying, until he reaches the age of ten, then with all the more reason, it is not permissible for other than the father (from those in charge) to hit the children for something other than leaving off the salah (prayer) until he reaches the age of ten.

Thus, it is not permissible for the teacher to hit the child even if he did not obey him regarding the salah. What else exists from the other affairs that are as important as the Salah. "In this connection, I would like to also add that the age of puberty for girls and boys differs tremendously from country to country. I know that in general, in countries of warm climate, the hormones may mature at a faster rate; thus the age of takleef (duty: obligation to observe precepts of religion) would be reached at an earlier age than it would in a colder climate. Then this rule should not be taken in a general way but rather each country should study the children or it should be done in a more detailed way. For example one would find out whether this particular child reached the age of puberty or is he still in childhood? So whatever seems to predominate from this study, the hukm (ruling) would be decided."

He was then asked: "With regards to hitting, if the child had bad banners and hit.." Sheikh Al-Albaani began saying:

"There is no hitting, no hitting at all. Rather there is directing, advising and speech. Sometimes words have a greater affect on people than hitting. In addition, hitting with some people does not help at all, rather it makes them continue on what their upon more and more. What is important is that the best of all guidance is the guidance of Muhammad, may peace and blessings be upon him. Thus the child is not to be hit so long that he did not reach the age of puberty.

"On this note, I understand from the gradual teaching of the Prophet that was previously mentioned in the hadith, 'Command your children to pray' to the end of the hadeeth, I understand from this hadeeth that it is wrong what I see take place with many fathers. He commands his child to pray before reaching the age of seven. This is opposition to the commandment of the Prophet, may peace and blessings be upon him. 'Command your children to pray when they reach the age of seven.' That is why it is not appropriate for the Muslim to put the commandment in effect before what the Prophet defined initially. It is ok for the father to permit his child to come along with him to pray with him in the masjid. But as far as him telling him, "Come here, get up, go make wudoo' and pray." and the child has not yet reached the age of seven, this is opposition to this hadith, so I just wanted to remind you all of that."

He was also asked: "Sheikh, regarding hitting, sometimes you find students leave their houses and have no manners, even good advice does not benefit them, so does hitting them fall into necessity?"

Sheikh Al-Albaani replied:
"There is no necessity, where is the necessity here. Can you comprehend that hitting would benefit when the One who created him said, do not hit him until he reaches the age of seven."


Excerpt taken from an audio cassette lecture titled: "La Qushoor fil Islam." by: Sheikh Al-Albaani

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However, when this question was asked to Dr. Saleh as Saleh in his paltalk class, "Understanding Islam," he answered that it IS permissible to use spanking as a form of discipline if it is used as a last resort and done gently. So, this matter needs further elaboration.

Source: http://www.pinkislam.com/content/view/115/37/
 
that is just an opinion of one of the scholars. it doesn't mean that is 100% accurate . Other scholars might have different opinions.
 
Ohhh that makes my blood boil!!!!!!!! I would NEVER allow someone to do that to my child!! It is the parents responsibility to punish their own children according to what they have done wrong. I hardly ever have to spank my child because he has been taught what he is and isn't supposed to do. Usually just the threat of a spanking puts him back in line very quickly! And I never ever use anything to spank him other than my hand. There is no need to use a weapon against a child! Not to mention that you have no control over how hard they are being hit. If someone did that to my son, I would be in jail!!!
 

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