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lilah
05-15-2007, 06:42 PM
jerry falwell, enemy of Islam, was pronounced dead may 15, 2007.

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2006/03/14/900/77888
http://www.beliefnet.com/story/70/story_7058_1.html

goodbye luxurious life, goodbye fame and power
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Keltoi
05-15-2007, 08:14 PM
Just curious, what did he do to earn the infamous "enemy of Islam" label?
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MTAFFI
05-15-2007, 08:16 PM
Originally Posted by Keltoi
Just curious, what he did he do to earn the infamous "enemy of Islam" label?
he wasnt a muslim
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- Qatada -
05-15-2007, 08:17 PM
Originally Posted by MTAFFI
he wasnt a muslim

And..? Since when did that make someone an enemy to Islaam? One of the closest people to the final Messenger of God, Muhammad (peace be upon him) was his uncle, a non muslim, yet he supported Islaam and died as a non muslim.

Allah forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) Faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for Allah loveth those who are just.

Allah only forbids you, with regard to those who fight you for (your) Faith, and drive you out of your homes, and support (others) in driving you out, from turning to them (for friendship and protection). It is such as turn to them (in these circumstances), that do wrong.


[Qur'an 60: 8-9]
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Woodrow
05-15-2007, 08:21 PM
Perhaps we should stop and think, did we as Muslims do our best to act in a manner that would help him understand his errors about us?

How many of us live a life that gives credability to His Misunderstandings?

Far better if we could say that He had seen Islam as it truly was and that he had said the Shahadah.

Which one of us failed to pass the message of Islam onto him?
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Keltoi
05-15-2007, 08:27 PM
No doubt Falwell was non-Muslim, and did not have a particular fondness for the Muslim faith. However, nothing he has said is any more offensive than many statements from Islamic clerics I've read before. When someone doesn't agree with you, you might be inclined to feel offended by their comments. Lord knows I've been offended by some of Falwell's comments, but I didn't consider him an "enemy" because of it.
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wilberhum
05-15-2007, 08:35 PM
http://www.amss.net/PressReleases_Falwells.html
Jerry Falwell has once again targeted Islam and Muslims by calling the Prophet of Islam a "terrorist," on the CBS program, 60 Minutes
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Amadeus85
05-15-2007, 08:46 PM
In my country we sometimes say after one's death- let's keep quiet over his coffin.

So maybe lets just respect this man and dont offend him.
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Woodrow
05-15-2007, 08:56 PM
Good phrase. Seems appropriate.

Let us keep quiet over this man's coffin.
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Talha777
05-16-2007, 12:17 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6660057.stm

The wretched man who dared to call our beloved Holy Prophet Muhammad Mustafa (sallallahu alaihi wa salaam), a (God forbid) terrorist, has finally met his end, and we pray that may Allah Taala give him what he deserves.
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Hashim_507
05-16-2007, 12:21 AM
Prophet Muhammad Mustafa (sallallahu alaihi wa salaam), ??
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Talha777
05-16-2007, 12:25 AM
Prophet Muhammad Mustafa (sallallahu alaihi wa salaam), ??
What are you asking?



Figures, he died of heart failure. Too much fried chicken I suppose.
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vpb
05-16-2007, 12:29 AM
He is probably experiencing the punishment in the grave already. What a sad end. May Allah save us from being among people that die like him and among the dwellers of fire. :( and may Allah swt make us among the heirs of Jannah Firdews. Ameen
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Hashim_507
05-16-2007, 12:31 AM
I am talking about the man who died; I am talking about Prophet Muhammad (sallallahu alaihi wa salaam). The Prophet(sallallahu alaihi wa salaam) last name is not Mustafa, Its Prophet Muhammad Ibn Abdullah Ibn Hashim(sallallahu alaihi wa salaam).
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Talha777
05-16-2007, 12:35 AM
Mustafa is one of his names, just like Ahmad.
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جوري
05-16-2007, 02:40 AM
Originally Posted by Talha777
What are you asking?



Figures, he died of heart failure. Too much fried chicken I suppose.
;D ;D ;D ... He does sort of look like Colonel Sanders doesn't he?
with that said... his judgement surely lies with G-D...
Death will get us all :nervous:

May Allah have mercy on our souls...

:w:
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lilah
05-16-2007, 05:42 AM
alhamdu lillah this thread is back open, my thread was hijacked in the beginning and was closed before i had a chance to respond.

let me clarify my first post when I called falwell an 'enemy of islam' which can be different than an 'enemy of muslims'.

I didn't say he was an 'enemy of islam' because 'he wasn't muslim' as MTAFFI .

falwell during his lifetime, with his own tongue, made horrible statements about islam and the prophet muhammed (salla lahu alaihi wa salam). his teachings are responsible for the radical thinking of the neo cons that (among other things) have demonstrated an intolerance of muslims, that are responsible for the catastrophe in Iraq, and supports the aparthied state of isreal.

falwell is an enemy of islam from his own words, his own tongue. now, if muslims out there want to give this man the benefit of the doubt, forgive him, or tried to make dawah to him during his lifetime, that's a their choice.... but it didn't change the fact that falwell still hated islam...

I don't judge the man, personally... and cannot say where his final position in the afterlife is/will be... that's a decision made by the Allah (subhana wa ta3allah)...
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lilah
05-16-2007, 05:45 AM
one more thing i want to say, as i am new to the board, my statements can be misunderstood....

when i say 'apartheid state of isreal' i don't mean that i have a dislike or hatred toward the jewish people. i have respect for jewish people, but a lack of respect for the government of isreal....

once again, so there's no confusion


wa salam :)
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mohammed farah
05-16-2007, 05:56 AM
The guy is just another human being 2 me. nothing more nothing less
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vpb
05-16-2007, 06:15 AM
his judgement surely lies with G-D...
I never found out why do you say G-D instead of GOD?
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DAWUD_adnan
05-16-2007, 06:19 AM
man.., this guy is Fat...., well after a few months he wont be!..,(Lol at carcas decay)
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vpb
05-16-2007, 06:43 AM
He was probably a good friend of Pat Robertson. Cuz it seems he had his teachings.
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aamirsaab
05-16-2007, 06:48 AM
:sl:
Ok since the thread starter has clarified their stance on the matter, I think it is fine to lock this thread.

Believe me, it is for you own good. Plus, I'm extending your life by a fraction of a percentage. That's gotta be worth something, right?
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vpb
05-16-2007, 07:02 AM
:threadclo
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mohammed farah
05-16-2007, 07:06 AM
I'll do it better:D



So with this....

:threadclo
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