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[MuslimahBlue]

Assalamualaikum

What would you say to someone who thinks the Prophet Muhhamed Peace be upon him is a pedophile?
Also whats the proper way to answer the question "Why do you Muslim women wear Hijab"?

[Curaezipirid]

Assalamualaikum

What would you say to someone who thinks the Prophet Muhhamed Peace be upon him is a pedophile?
Also whats the proper way to answer the question "Why do you Muslim women wear Hijab"?

Salamualaykum,

First is that we need always refute even mention of the word "paedophile" with any association to real Islam. The information you need is the full true story of Mohammed being betrothed to Aisha.

In many cultures, including even today among traditional Aboriginal Australians, it is quite normal for a baby girl to become betrothed for a future wedding, to a male whose age might range between about seven and fifty odd. The fifty seven year old man whom becomes betrothed to a baby girl, might decide to make ample contributions to the material world in which she is being raised, but he will be socially prevented from knowing herself until she is at least physically mature enough to bear her own child. He might meet her in many contexts, but he leaves it to her mother to forgive her, rather than ever trying to until she is ready to become a mother herself.

In the case of Mohammed, he undertook the work of being financially responsible for Aisha when she was still very young, only because he could manage that better for her than her own parents.

Also the actual word "paedophile" is meant to imply that 'a child-love of' is the same as sexually abusing a child, so it is an example of corruption to the English language. Also there are English speaking persons whom assume that a further corruption could be had by taking "paedophile" to mean 'children-collector of' (as in putting the self of children into files). They debase speech and should be totally ignored. It is better to be more explicit.

If any person accuses Mohammed of being a "paedophile" then call them out upon what exactly were they meaning. Ask them for explicit detail of what they are accusing Mohammed of. That we at least we know what it is we have to refute.

In respect of Hijab. There are many varied reasons why woman are under cover, and any of are alright to provide, only so long as we tell the worthy reasons. For example, do not tell that some shaytan use the veil to hide under.

The law is about the reasoning behind men needing to assume responsiblity for women's vanity. That need has a set duration, until women themselves are no longer taking now too much of the appearance of the future in beauty.

We all want a beautiful future do we not? But also we ought not burden men with too much of what women might look for of the future. And men also ought not ever even want, or try, to find an attractive vanity for themself that truly is the appearance of the future. Men too need Hijab.

The best answer as to why we use the veil is only that it covers, or even that it is about the conservation of vanity.

wasalam

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:wasalamex

Assalamualaikum

What would you say to someone who thinks the Prophet Muhhamed Peace be upon him is a pedophile?

We can use modern day authors to refute their claim insha Allaah, since Aa'isha was a young woman if she has had her menses. And this is true, that's why he (peace be upon him) consumated the marriage with her at the age of 9 - when she was a woman.

Some modern female authors say:

Puberty is defined as the age or period at which a person is first capable of sexual reproduction, in other eras of history, a rite or celebration of this landmark event was a part of the culture. (Rites of Passage: Puberty, by Sue Curewitz Arthen)


"Getting your period" marks a rite of passage for young girls entering womanhood. (From the Women's Resource Center)

Another contemporary reference relating marriage age to puberty is an article on Central Africa, which says:

. . . women marry soon after puberty4.

There are many other references which should prove to any intelligent person what anthropologists and historians already know: in centuries past, people were considered ready for marriage when they reached puberty.


It should be mentioned that from an Islamic point of view, many problems in society today can be traced back to the abandonment of early marriage. Due to the way that Almighty God has created man and woman, i.e., with strong sexual desires, people should marry young. In the past, this was even more true since life expectancy was very low (i.e. you were considered "old" if you made it to 40!) Not only does marriage provide a legal outlet for people with strong sexual desires, but it usually produces more children. One of the main purposes of marriage is to produce children -"be fruitful and multiply" as the Bible says (Genesis 8:17). This was especially important in the past, when people did not live as long as they do now and the infant morality rate was much higher.



Additionally, an article entitled Puberty in Girls by an Australian government Public Health organization, says:

The first sign of puberty is usually a surge of growth: you become taller; your breasts develop; hair begins to grow in the pubic area and under the arms. This may start from 10 years to 14 years - even earlier for some and later for others.

An article Physical Changes in Girls During Puberty has this to say:

During puberty, a girl's body changes, inside and out, into the body of a woman. The changes don't come all at once, and they don't happen at the same time for everybody. Most girls start showing physical changes around age 11, but everyone has her own internal schedule for development. It's normal for changes to start as early as 8 or 9 years of age, or not until 13 or 14. Even if nothing looks or feels different yet, the changes may have already begun inside your body.

Many will readily agree with the information above, but still might harbour reservations about whether a marriage to an older man could be happy for such a young girl. Putting aside the modern Western notions of "happiness" for a moment, the marriage of cAishah and the Prophet(P) was a mutually happy and loving one as in expressed in numerous hadîth and seerah books. That happy marriages occur between people with a fairly large difference in ages is known among psychologists:

When the differences (in ages) is great, e.g. exceeds fifteen to twenty years, the results may be happier. The marriage of an elderly (senescent) not, of course, an old (senile) man to a quite young girl, is often very successful and harmonious. The bride is immediately introduced and accustomed to moderate sexual intercourse.7

In his comments on the ahadith in Sahîh Muslim which mention cAishah's young marriage to the Prophet(P), cAbdul-Hamîd Siddiqî shows three other reasons for this marriage:

cAishah's marriage to the Prophet Muhammad(P) at an early age allowed her to be an eyewitness to the personal details of his life and carry them on to the succeeding generations. By being both spiritually and physically near to the Prophet(P), the marriage prepared 'Aishah to be an example to all Muslims, especially women, for all times. She developed into a spiritual teacher and scholar, since she was remarkably intelligent and wise. Her qualities help support the Prophet's work and further the cause of Islam. cAishah, the Mother of the Believers, was not only a model for wives and mothers, but she was also a commentator on the Qur'ân, an authority on hadîth and knowledgeable in Islamic Law. She narrated at least 2,210 ahâdîth that give Muslims valuable insights into the Final Prophet's daily life and behaviour, thus preserving the Sunnah of Muhammad(P).

http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Polemics/aishah.html

Also whats the proper way to answer the question "Why do you Muslim women wear Hijab"?

The muslim woman can take her veil off infront of her mahrams (people she is not permitted to marry, i.e. her blood brothers etc.) and husband. She should infact beautify herself for her husband and keep other stranger mens gazes away from her, and this is part of the idea of the veil. To cover oneself, to be modest, and to push away the idea of premarital relationships.

Compare this idea to a jewellery store. Where the expensive diamonds are kept in a secure place, whereas the not so expensive products are put up for show for anyone to get hold of.


Also, the loose clothes are a way of protecting the female from unwanted stares, and the loose clothing doesn't show her body shape, but instead she beautifies herself for her husband like mentioned earlier. So it isn't culture, rather it is a form of protection for her.


You can ask any sister who wears a veil for the sake of Allah, if she feels oppressed and she will say no. She doesn't desire to wear tight clothes and actually feels that wearing the loose clothes is her form of freedom because she isn't stared or wolf whistled at by any stranger guy walking in the street etc.


You can read more regarding hijab from here:

http://www.soundvision.com/Info/news.../hjb.quran.asp


Allaah Almighty knows best

[Curaezipirid]

Salam

The information I have is that Mohammed did not touch Aisha, and that at nine years old, he had only undertaken to mind with her financial upkeep.

I have a serious concern that if we Muslims fall to believing that a nine year old girl, even with menses, was made available in intimate relations, then we are only drawing upon ourselves accusations against Mohammed.

Menses are neither what makes a girl a woman. The age of the onset of menses is not any accurate indication of the time at which a female body is able to bear a child, and so is no indication either of when she is ready for intimate marital relations.

She should not be relating inimately with a Husband until she is ready to become a mother, and I will not believe that such had happened in the case of Mohammed and Aisha. How could we sustain true belief in Islam if such was real.

Rather it is that the marriage became more formal because Mohammed undertook to be the financial guardian of Aisha. If there had been intimate relations then no Christians and Jews would have converted to Islam and the whole Islamic empire could never have existed. No matter what anybody else beleives, I will believe that Humanity is a state of mind of truly wanting to behave in a life sustaining way, and a consumpation of marriage to a nine year old, if in physical intimacy, is simply so wrong that we ought never even suggest to another person that they might be tempted to believe in its lie.

It has been the entertaining of such lies, which causes the kafr which cause the acts of real abuse of children. Therefore we must be very openly explicit that there was never any suggestion that the marriage was physically consumated. It burdens all Muslims that any other Muslim could try to tempt anybody to believe other wise, especially if as to acquire money by. Such money has no Islam and causes nightmares for children.

I feel like not posting anymore here now, having to face that I often post in Muslim internet sites only because I have no social context in which I can express belief, which is the case only because of wrong allegations against myself also of paedophilia. The immense wrong of every act of any tempting a person to believe that any real Human being could act in such a fashion, little own a man we hold to be Holy, is such that I could not be Muslim if I had not met another Muslim who will never tolerate that lie being let to pass unrefuted.

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[Pyro]

here is what I usually reply
> Pedophilia means sexual desire of children, therefore even if the prophet were married to Aisha at a young age, there is no proof that the marriage was sexual. Furthermore, the prophet had many wives, if he was truly a "pedophile" then why didnt he marry more young girls ?.

> Pedophilia is a new thing, in ancient times it was considered normal for men to marry young girls. Probably if the prophet was living in this century, then he would not have married Aisha as that would have been unnacceptable by society.


I thank the previous posters on their info on the prophet being a financial gaurdian for Aisha, I did not know that.
I especially like Curaezipirid's interpretation.

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Are they Jews or Christians ? Ask them if they hate Prophet David (p) because he married a young virgin when he was at death bed. Yes , they did not live together but why the marriage took place if holy books prohibit it ?

If they are Hindus , then early was veryyyyyyyyyyyyyyy common among hindus in less than 50 yrs. They believed that if a girl is not married before her puberty , parent will go to hell.

Don't know about Buddist scripture ...they their holy book prohibits early marriage....fine ...it's not a must in Islam either.


tell them that in Islam , there is no forced marriage. Mother Aisha (p) was already engaged to other man before her marriage to Prophet (p). As the person remained as non-Muslim & the Aisha ( ra ) became Muslim , the marriage did not take place.



sex maniacs are those who torture young girls ...they do it unethically / illegaly. Marriage means both parties give consent to a lawful matter.....approved by God Almighty.



They are brainwashed by media propaganda against Islam. Pl. give them holy Quran to read / or Audio cd with Eng translation or give them biography of the Prophet.....he never ever tortured any slave or any animal . How is possible that he tortured a little girl ? She started her married life after her puberty.........all major holy books approve this marriage.

Tell them to show from their holy books that this marrieage was a sin.


Prophet spent his whole youth with elderly wife.....did not marry any young or other lady till she was alive . Is it possible for any perverted person to show such love to wife & control desire if really he was a perverted person? ( may God show all the right path, Ameen ).



about hijab : simple ans is because God says so :)

Muslim women submitted themselves to God ; so they obey commands of God.....it's not a man made law.


tell them to listen to our revert bro :

song on veil ( most probably this one is without music...so 100 % halal :p )



Video of Dawud Wharnsby singing a nasheed about Hijab

http://www.lightuponlight.com/islam/...=index&lid=384


They say, "Oh, poor girl, you're so beautiful you know
It's a shame that you cover up your beauty so."


She just smiles and graciously responds reassuringly,
"This beauty that I have is just one simple part of me.
This body that I have, no stranger has the right to see.


These long clothes, this shawl I wear, ensure my modesty.


Faith is more essential than fashion, wouldn't you agree?

a link:

An Interview with Aminah Assilmi


To ask me to go out without my hijab would be like asking a nun to go topless.


I t amazes me, and I cannot help but wonder if they would have ordered Mary, the Mother of Jesus, to uncover her hair. more...


http://www.messageonline.org/2004febmarch/cover.htm


some related links on marriage of Mother Aisha (ra ):

Would a 50-year-old “Prophet of God” Have Sex with a 9-year-old Girl?


http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/S...=1119503547538





Distortions about the Marriages of the Prophet (PBUH)


http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/S...=1119503543986



Addressing Misconceptions about Prophet’s Marriage to `Aisha


http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/S...=1119503544940

[Musalmaan]

:sl: this is quiet informational insha'Allah.

Prophet Muhammad and Aisha Siddiqa®?
by Sabeel Ahmed

Through the centuries, orientalists have advance numerous accusations and far-fetched theories to discredit Islam and its last Prophet, Muhammad (peace be upon him). Praise be to Allah alone, all such accusations have been successfully refuted by the Muslims Ummah. Currently, one of the ‘reinvented’ accusations against the noble character of the Prophet is about his marriage to young Aisha Siddiqa ®.

Let’s probe some of the orientalists’ charges in detail in the light of modern research, historic evidence and the Islamic sources of the Quran and the Sunnah to separate truth from falsehood, and display to the world that Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) is indeed an exemplary for all of mankind.

Two main theories are often advance by orientalists to attack the pure character of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) on his marriage to Aisha ® at her young age.

A. He was a Pedophile.

B. He was involved in child abuse.

Let’s analyze each theory to dig out the truth, through the Guidance of Allah (SWT).

A. Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) married Aisha ® because he was a pedophile?

Definition of a Pedophile:

"Pedophile: also spelled PEDOPHILIA, psychosexual disorder in which an adult's arousal and sexual gratification occur primarily through sexual contact with prepubescent children. The typical pedophile is unable to find satisfaction in an adult sexual relationship and may have low self-esteem, seeing sexual activity with a child as less threatening than that with an adult." Encyclopedia Britannica, 1998

"pe.do.phil.ia n [NL] (1906): sexual perversion in which children are the preferred sexual object -- pe.do.phil.i.ac or pe.do.phil.ic adj." Merriam Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary


The diagnostic criteria for pedophilia according to American Psychiatric Association:

# Over a period of at least 6 months, recurrent intense sexual urges and sexual arousing fantasies involving sexual activity with a prepubescent child or children.
# The person has acted on these urges, or is markedly distressed by them.
# The person is at least 16 years old and at least 5 years older than the child or children in A.

DSM-III-R Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, ed 3, revised, copyright American Psychiatric Association.

"In addition to their pedophilia, a significant number of pedophiles are concomitantly or have previously been involved in exhibitionism, voyeurism, or rape". (Voyeurism’s the recurrent preoccupation with fantasized or acts that involve seeking out or observing people who are naked, or are engaged in grooming or in sexual activity". Synopsis of psychiatry, Harold I.Kaplan et al., 5th ed., pg360, Publishers: Williams and Wilkens, 1988
Does the Prophet fit the above criteria of a pedophile?

With the above criteria of a pedophile in mind, lets analyze the lifestyle of the prophet and his marriages.

Name of Bride Bride’s age at marriage Comments

Khadija bint khawilad ########## 40 ########## Twice widowed before
Sauda Bint Zama ########## 50 ########## Widow
Aisha bint Abu Bakr ########## 9 ########## Started living with the prophet at the age of 9.
Hafsa Bint Umar bin Khattab####### 22 ########## Widow
Zainab bint Khuzaima ########## 30 ##########
Umm-I-Salma bint Abu Umayia ## 26 ########## Widow
Zainab Bint Jahash ########## 38 ########## Widow
Juwaeria Bint Harith ########## 20 ########## Widow
Umm-I-Habiba bint Abu Sufyan ########## 36 ########## Widow
Marya Qibtiya bint shamun ########## 17 ########## Virgin, Egyptian
Safia bint Hayi bin Akhtab ########## 17 ########## Widow
Raihana bint umru bin hanafa ########## ########## Not available
Maimuna bint harith ########## 36 ########## Widow

Source: The Prophet of Islam, the Ideal Husband, by Syed Abu Zafar Zain, Kazi Publications, Lahore, Ist Ed., pg. 10-12

Statistics from the above table:

Percentage of his wives who were 17years and older = 91 %

Percentage of his wives who were widows = 75%

Comment: The statistics show that the prophet’s marriage to Aisha at her young age was an exception and not a norm of his other marriages. Furthermore ‘a pedophile’s main mode of sexual satisfaction is with prepubescent girls’, which is contradictory to the 91% of prophet’s marriage to women 17 years and over. An unbiased examination of Prophet’s life and his marriages to his wives blatantly rejects the notion of his lifestyle fitting that of a pedophile. All his brides were aged widows (except Aisha and Marium).

Moreover, according to the criteria in the references cited above in ‘Synopsis of Psychiatry’, a vast majority of pedophiles possess a history of exhibitionism, voyeurism, or rape. Again, there is no single reference from either religious or secular sources that the noble Prophet ever indulged in such sadistic behavior (God forbid). This truth is observed and accepted by both Muslims and unbiased non-Muslims scholars.

"It is impossible for anyone who studies the life and character of the great Prophet of Arabia, who knows how he taught and how he lived, to feel anything but reverence for that mighty Prophet, one of the great messengers of the Supreme. And although in what I put to you I shall say many things which may be familiar to many, yet I myself feel whenever I re-read them, a new way of admiration, a new sense of reverence for that mighty Arabian teacher." – Annie Besant, THE LIFE AND TEACHINGS OF MUHAMMAD, Madras, 1932, p. 4.

B. Others claim that the noble Prophet (peace be upon him) indulged in child-abuse when he married Aisha at her young age.

Let scrutinize this allegation…

Definition of Child Abuse:

Child Abuse, also called CRUELTY TO CHILDREN, the willful and unjustifiable infliction of pain and suffering on children. The term can denote the use of inordinate physical violence; unjustifiable verbal abuse; the failure to furnish proper shelter, nourishment, medical treatment, or emotional support; incest; other cases of sexual molestation or rape; and the making of child pornography. Frequently described by the medical profession as the "battered-child syndrome," abusive treatment of children is almost universally proscribed by criminal statutes. Child abuse can have serious future consequences for the victims involved. Delays in physical growth, impaired language and cognitive abilities, and problems in personality development, learning, and behavior are common following instances of child abuse or neglect.Encyclopedia Britannica, 1998


Comment: None of the criteria of child-abuse applies to the noble life of the Prophet (pbuh). There is no single incident of any infliction of pain and suffering by the prophet on Aisha or any other human being for that matter. Neither any instance of verbal or sexual abuse can be concluded from the relationship of the prophet with Aisha ® or any of his wives.

An abused child can have serious future consequences…delayed physical growth, impaired language..learning and behavior…etc (above definition). As one examines the chaste life of Aisha ®, her personality, physical, mental and spiritual development are all contrary to that of an abused child. In fact through the Prophet’s marriage and his guidance to Aisha, history testifies that she should be labeled not as an abused child but as a ‘blessed child’.

After analyzing and refuting the accusations against the noble character of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), the only viable alternative left with us is:
C. The Prophet married Aisha for the benefit of Islam and Humanity.

Lets analyze…

# The Prophet married Aisha primarily for three reasons:

# To reinforce the friendly relations already existing with Abu Bakr (his closest companion).
# To educate and train Aisha so she may serve the purposes of Islam.
# To teach her to utilize her capabilities for the sake of Islam.

# Her Marriage with the prophet was a Wahi (Divine Revelation). She, herself relates from the Prophet, ‘He said, "I saw you in dreams three times. The angel brought you to me and you were clad in white silk. He (the angel) said that it was your consort and he (angel) showed me by opening your face. You are just like that…" Sahih Muslim, Vol.2, p.285.

# Aisha ® was born after her parents had embraced Islam. Therefore, she was free from the defilement of polytheism right from her birth.

# In her youth, already known for her striking beauty and her formidable memory, she came under the loving care and attention of the Prophet himself. As his wife and close companion she acquired from him knowledge and insight such as no woman has ever acquired.

Aishah lived on almost fifty years after the passing away of the Prophet. She had been his wife for a decade. Much of this time was spent in learning and acquiring knowledge of the two most important sources of God's guidance, the Quran and the Sunnah of His Prophet. Aishah ® was one of the three wives (the other two being Hafsa ® and Umm Salamah ®) who memorized the Revelation. Like Hafsa ®, she had her own script of the Quran written after the Prophet had died.

# So far as the Hadith or sayings of the Prophet is concerned, Aishah ® is one of four persons (the others being Abu Hurrah, Abdullah ibn Umar, and Ana ibn Malik) who transmitted more than two thousand sayings. From her, 2210 Hadith have come, out of which 174 Hadith are commonly agreed upon by both Bukhari and Muslim. Many of her transmissions pertain to some of the most intimate aspects of personal behavior which only someone in Aishah’s position could have learnt. What is most important is that her knowledge of Hadith was passed on in written form by at least three persons including her nephew Urwah who became one of the greatest scholars among the generation after the Companions. It is the claim of the Scholars of Islam that without her, half of the Ilm-I-Hadith [knowledge, understanding of the Hadith (and Islam)] would have perished.

# Many of the learned companions of the Prophet and their followers benefited from Aishah's knowledge. Abu Musa al-Ashari once said: "If we companions of the Messenger of God had any difficulty on a matter, we asked Aisha about it."

"Yahya related to me from Malik from Yahya ibn Said from Said ibn al-Musayyab that Abu Musa al-Ashari came to Aishah, the wife of the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, and said to her, "The disagreement of the companions in a matter which I hate to bring before you has distressed me." She said, "What is that? You did not ask your mother about it, so ask me." He said, "A man penetrates his wife, but becomes listless and does not ejaculate. "She said, "When the circumcised part passes the circumcised part ghusl is obligatory." Abu Musa added, "I shall never ask anyone about this after you." Al-Muwatta of Imam Malik Hadith 2.75

Arwa Bin Zubair says, "I did not find anyone more proficient (than Aisha ®) in the knowledge of the Holy Quran, the Commandments of Halal (lawful) and Haram (prohibited), Ilmul-Ansab and Arabic poetry. That is why, even senior companions of the Prophet used to consult Aisha ® in resolving intricate issued".Jala-ul-Afham by Ibn Qaiyem and Ibn Sa’ad, Vol.2, p.26

Abu Musa al-Ashari says: "Never had we (the companions) had any difficulty for the solution of which we approached Aisha and did not get some useful information from her".Sirat-I-Aisha, on the authority of Trimidhi, pg. 163


# As a teacher she had a clear and persuasive manner of speech and her power of oratory has been described in superlative terms by al-Ahnaf who said: "I have heard speeches of Abu Bakr and Umar, Uthman and Ali and the Khulafa up to this day, but I have not heard speech more persuasive and more beautiful from the mouth of any person than from the mouth of Aishah."

The Prophet said, "The superiority of 'Aisha to other ladies is like the superiority of Tharid (i.e. meat and bread dish) to other meals. Many men reached the level of perfection, but no woman reached such a level except Mary, the daughter of Imran and Asia, the wife of Pharaoh." Sahih Al-Bukhari Hadith, Narrated by Abu Musa Al Ashari Hadith 4.643
Musa Ibn Talha ® says, "I did not see anyone more eloquent than Aisha ®" Mustadrak of Hakim, Vol.4,p.11


# Men and women came from far and wide to benefit from her knowledge.


Aisha’s great interest in the study of the Qur’an is understandable. She was an eye-witness to a number of revelations and had therefore a clear idea of the circumstances in which they were revealed. It was on her bed alone (and no other consort’s) that the Prophet received Wahi (Divine Revelations) several times. This helped her in interpreting the verses.


# At the time of the Prophet’s death, the Prophet’s head was on her lap. It was in her quarters that the Prophet was buried.

The life of Aishah (R) is a proof that a woman can be far more learned than men and that she can be the teacher of scholars and experts. Her life is also a proof that a woman can exert influence over men and women and provide them with inspiration and leadership. Aisha (R) is a continuing inspiration and role model to today’s youth who are diligently searching for an example amongst the pop stars, movie actresses and sports stars. May the memory of her’s live forever in the heart of the Muslim Ummah and may Allah grant her the highest abode in Paradise…Aameen.


Conclusion:

It was the aforementioned qualities of Aisha ® and the Prophet’s guidance in molding these capabilities for the service of Islam, were the main reasons, why the Prophet Married young Aisha ®, and not the perverted reasons brought forth by misguided orientalists.

Muslims invite all sincere humans to study the life of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon) in the light of the authentic sources of the Quran and the Sunnah (exemplary sayings and deeds of the Prophet) and judge for themselves where the truth lies. Indeed, by recognizing the truth of Islam as the final and complete Guidance sent by our Creator can humanity find lasting peace in this world and a means of salvation from the hell fire in the hereafter.

"I have studied him - the wonderful man and in my opinion far from being an anti-Christ, he must be called the Savior of Humanity. I believe that if a man like him were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world, he would succeed in solving its problems in a way that would bring it the much needed peace and happiness: I have prophesied about the faith of Muhammad that it would be acceptable to the Europe of tomorrow as it is beginning to be acceptable to the Europe of today." George Bernard Shaw, THE GENUINE ISLAM, Vol. 1, No. 81936.

Though, the Prophet is not among us in his flesh, but his exemplary life has been preserved for all humanity to follow.

When Truth comes Falsehood disappears, Islam came, now Shirk (polytheism) must clear

Welcome to Islam…

[- Qatada -]

Age of consent in the USA just last century was 7 in some states like Delaware

American reformers were shocked to discover that the laws of most states set the age of consent at the age of ten or twelve, and in one state, Delaware, the age of consent was only seven. Women reformers and advocates of social purity initiated a campaign in 1885 to petition legislators to raise the legal age of consent to at least sixteen

http://www.binghamton.edu/womhist/teacher/aoc.htm

Raising the age of consent even in the USA is a very modern concept. Let alone 14 centuries ago, that was simply the norm. Once the girl hit puberty and became a young woman, everyone knew it was her time for marriage since people feared shorter life spans.

[Kittygyal]

Salamualikum.
Forgive me pelase am not trying to act bigheaded or anything but i just wana ask this thread is splitting apart i mean were talking about prophet right or about gyals/dudes splitting apart:?

Or have i misunderstood:? Please explain without hesitation please.

Ma'assalama

[- Qatada -]

Salamualikum.
Forgive me pelase am not trying to act bigheaded or anything but i just wana ask this thread is splitting apart i mean were talking about prophet right or about gyals/dudes splitting apart:?

Or have i misunderstood:? Please explain without hesitation please.

Ma'assalama

:wasalamex


We're talking about the marriage of Aa'isha (may Allaah be pleased with her) to Allaah's Messenger (peace be upon him.) :)


:salamext:

[Kittygyal]

:wasalamex


We're talking about the marriage of Aa'isha (may Allaah be pleased with her) to Allaah's Messenger (peace be upon him.) :)


:salamext:

Salamualikum.
My Bad forgive me inshallah. *Just layed back and tired* :-[

Amin thumma amin ya rabbil alameen. May Allah subhnwatallah indeed be pleased with Aa'isha in all means inshallah inshallah

Anyhwo, to the thread maker i apoolgise for like being kindish ignorant and not understanding propley but inshallah next time when i wake up fully i will read this thread again and post what i have to inshallah.

For now, remember me all in your dua'ahs along with Ummah inshallah.

Ma'assalama

[Musalmaan]

:sl:

its an unfortunate truth that many ppl. never studied the life of prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam. they just pick some v.specific aspects of his life without knowing the history background of the same thing.

Even though Allahu ta’ala had declared to prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him): "I shall give you whatever you want," he never wanted worldly fortune. Never did he eat bread made of sifted wheat flour. He always ate bread made of unsifted barley flour. He never ate enough food to be full. He ate bread without anything, or with dates, fruit, vinegar, soup, or bread dipped into olive oil. His family spent times at home without cooking any food or baking any bread for two or three months. During this time they would only eat dates. It was also witnessed that he would eat nothing for two or three days. When he died, it was found out that his iron armored jacket had been pawned to a Jew for 30 (thirty) kilos of wheat. This is all reported by the wife of prophet and mother of all the believers, Aisha (may Allah be pleased with her).

His bed was made of leather and full of date filler. Once, he was given a bed that was full of wool, he did not accept it and said: "O! Aisha! I swear by Allah that if I wanted, Allahu ta’ala would make gold and silver piles available for me in every place." He Sometimes slept on a mat, on wood, in a bed, on felt woven from wool, or out on the dry soil.



This was the life of prophet who himself choose a simple life. He (Peace be upon him) did not have any worldly attraction rather every actions show the humility and humbleness as being the servant of Allah SWT.

People who object the early marriage of Aisha r.a either had a very different aspect of looking towards woman or they had a v. weird picture of the life of the final messenger of God.

The prophet first marriage was with Khadijah r.a and it was before his prophet hood when his age was 25 years old and Khadija (may Allah be pleased with her) age was forty 40. The man who married the woman who was 15 years elder than him, then how can we expect such man to marry aisha r.a for whim and desire, moreover, after getting the prophecy from Allah SWT?( God forfid) this is indeed a great slander and misconception and may Allah save us from holding such evil thought.

I suggest the non-muslims to read the life of prophet Muhammad Sallallahu alaihi wa sallam or read Quran, the speech of Allah to understand the real purpose of our life and knowing Allah SWT, the Lord of the worlds.

[Curaezipirid]

Salamualaykum folk reading this thread.

I very recently made the following post, as the opening of another thread, but since I am difficult to read not so many folk have read it. But it bears very real relevance to the general question of our need to refute all the wrong allegations against Mohammed in respect of Aisha, so I am copying it into this post.

Because it is stored in a computer file in a form to place into many contexts, I have placed at the end as strong a Dua as I could. Thanking the other posts Load Islam contexts which I have placed also within this, to strengthen the basis of the Dua. The whole post bears with the fact that we all, every living being, must make Dua towards the end of every fallacy about the safety of children.

You will notice when there are parts of other posts worked into this for strength of Dua, and my original post starts here:

Salam and Hello and welcome

I have done a thing which I am strongly proud of today, and want to show it. It bears some relation upon the work of validating that Mohammed was at all times perfect in respect of Aisha.

Depending upon the fullness of your own belief, and how much of the real world already in existance you are able to perceive, perhaps you might take my post in the form of an allegorical teaching. It is about the effort necessary to make so as to cause that the wrong sihr which made the world impure, can be altered by well measured sihr of Angels. So read when your mind is willing.

This is a very serious issue I want to address, but it is difficult to address, especially through the internet. I know because I have tried to before, in a number of different Islamic websites and weblogs. However I hope this time the outcome might be better.

It is not about being an Aboriginal Australian, which is usually how I can claim to have been given any bad reputation. Yet it is also very directly aligned with that fact, but not necessarily always provably so, and trying to relate my own factual life story as I related to the wrongful criticisms made against Mohammed (blessings in my labour to him), has brought upon my own self a multitude of wrongful condemnations in the modern Australian context, and especially from the direction of police corruption and organised crime influencing modern Australian society through corrupt policing.

This part of my life story is about a family court case I am involved with between myself and my ex-defacto partner of nine and a half years, to whom I have three very well minded sons. But it is not thanks to their father that their own well mindedness is being maintained whilst living at his house, and most especially neither are any thanks due to their step-mother, who fancies herself a good person only at my expense. While what I have to tell is not of the material world, but is rather about the work of the world inhabited by Allah's Angels, the facts in the legal dispute are very relevant, so I can here tell a little of.

What has been portrayed through a myriad of legal contexts, but worst of all in a, now out of date, forensic psychiatric report, is basically that:
because I began to believe in Islam and practise genital wudu, asking my children’s father to re-inforce the lesson for my children;
but was also, at the time the court case opened, briefly engaged to an Aboriginal man;
and also having had the symptoms of a mild post traumatic stress condition, which is caused from, the combination of an accident in that I sat in a bucket of hot water at three, and then being caught in a natural disaster when eighteen, nearby to naturally hot water pools in New Zealand;
that therefore, my sanity might be in such terrible condition as to make me a permanent danger to my children, even to the extent that it is traumatic for their minds and their father’s mind to so much as say hello on the telephone.

The children’s father has sought to establish through lying to court, and to a forensic psychiatrist, in lies that are readily able to be disproven, that my general mental condition is so bad as that my self could be put under duress to rape a child. That he reported so very directly to the forensic psychiatrist has preventing me obtaining a blue card, and because my usual occupation is as a youth worker, I have not been able to work in my normal occupation, which has exacerbated the problem, in that I could not afford to fund my legal representation. The forensic psychiatrist believed him against other material evidence on paper, and in an absurd exaggeration in which he said openly to her that he only need give police a go ahead and they would criminally prosecute me for child sexual assault. There is no evidence, and perhaps why this circumstance has happened to myself is because I have at all times sustained absolute certainty in my nature that to so abuse any child is fully impossible.

Normally I am totally unaware of any of the disturbing mental associations which many persons report to me of experiencing in association with myself. Yet it comes to me that perhaps when I am asleep and not at all conscious of my Dreams, that my lack of consciousness might be because I have been forced into nightmares not of my own life, through a former defacto relationship with a person whom was abused as a child. What is odd in the context that it is myself being accused of insanity, is that the legal professionals whom had been assessing the case, seem to have been relying upon such nightmares in their experience as though above the empirical evidence. Because of the general reguard I am held in, I have experienced a gradual realisation of the extent to which my reputation was damaged here in Queensland before I even arrived here, among those persons whom might have been my peers in previous years. People I might name as peers in the Australian community are Aborigines whom are active in the land rights movement, and whom are mothers of children the same age as my own; members of the regulated socialist organisations; and any community of religious believers whom I have been in prayer with; yet also those whom I went to school with whom are now doctors and lawyers. Now it is only a small subset of the Indigenous community and a small subset of the socialist community, and small subset of religious believers whom have been enabled through Angels to sustain belief in myself as worthy of ever remembering. Maybe that will soon change.

Early morning, 23rd May 2007, (four days away from the fortieth anniversary of Aborigines being made citizens of a nation state - if that has any meaning to yourself), I received the set of mental impressions in which a person I know had been causing that my own person is perceived by many to be the responsible person for other peoples acts of sexual hatred. It is a good thing to have been able to notice the images are able to be received with gaps between each image in the sequence, which has enabled myself to put the truth in among the long standing imagery.

So I am going to here describe those images, and while describing, also place my own certain life story truth in place. My every effort for the past four years at July 10th, has been towards winning the family court case, and it is to that outcome which I am here working. My whole self in reality, is totally oriented into being a mother and a wife and a good daughter, and every other part of me is only an impurity; so can I ask of readers to bear myself as it is in reality in mind.

The sequence of images:

The preface is that in the past when I lay in bed in an automated mode of life, with my children’s father near me, I often made my hand like to an emus head, and made a joke of myself in that.

However many persons have been taking to their self, when after engaging in an act of degrading the Human anatomical function of gender:

The mind might inadvertently have been associating with an image of a puppet of some sort, but always one with a clearly strong association with greed;
There was an assumption attached to the image that it was being manipulated by the hand of a stranger, and that the puppet is the self, but also behaviour, of the person whom committed the wrong deed;
However, clearly because these images related to wrongful action as well as only mind, it must be held that the enactor of the deed, could have controlled their behaviour and not so acted, since we Human beings can control our posture if nothing else;
Therefore the correct regard to hold the manifestation of the puppet within, is that it is being controlled by the hand of the person whose mind notices it, but only when and if that hand is also attuned with the hand of Allah;
Any implications made by any persons whom have seen myself using my hand alike to a puppet, are clearly mistaken, since I have never, when with my hand inside a puppet (an example was with a monkey puppet I was given to hold by a Canadian acquaintance, at the 2000 Olympics Soccer matches in Canberra), ever had any thought or associations aligned with controlling the mind or behaviour of any other person. I am here in Allah, Elohim

The next image to appear is a wide open mouth with the tongue poking out. It is known to be at cause from the practise of homeopaths whom dose patients with a dose of potent medicine under the tongue, and so whom see their patients with wide open mouths, and are also likely to have examined the tongue. I have been a patient for some eleven years of one such homeopath, whom is not qualified, and had enticed me into his practise by quoting from the teaching of George Ivanovitch Gurdjieff. I have subsequently studied that teaching and can relate to it well enough to know that the homeopath is not adhereing to the real nature of the work he ascribes to belief in. In fact, my own experience of his knowledge, is that he uses his information about what medicines he had prescribed as homeopathic medicine, (that is, a medicine alike to the disease is prescribed so as to enable a patients self knowledge, and only thereby recovery, in having swallowed culpability), to various patients whom might be vulnerable, as I have been to his treachery, so as to exaggerate the condition on long into the future, only so as to alleviate the guilt he and his own wife are bearing, most especially from sexual conduct. Also he uses the doses he gives to one patient to feed through a story to another patient for them to blame the first patient by. Perhaps most of the blame was falling to my shoulders only because I have not once blamed any person in the situation, and not even the homeopath until well after I had very clean behavioural evidence in my bodily experiential witness. The image is usually associated to the ills of gossiping. But the fact of whom gossips and what gossip is, had not been accurately being identified by those whom promote the image. For example, the homeopath whom I am by now quite familiar with, had often openly gossiped about one patient to another, and frequently enough patients complain about his approach. He seemed to have reserved myself in some special favour and only gossiped about me to his wife and close companions rather than to the whole body of his patients. But he also was blaming his patients for ever remembering or repeating what he was telling them, as though their ears were faulted for hearing. But when in a physician’s office we ought to regard stories we are told as having a teaching element, or warning against wrong. The homeopath here in my regard did often use teaching stories when speaking with myself, for example: the statistician whom was diagnosed with an illness with a 100% fatality rate, and had to cure himself of misplaced belief about statistics before he could find the cure of the disease. I have the full set of all the medicines which were prescribed to me, and my children, and note often that many persons attuning with police, (both criminal and legal professionals and many others), when wondering what regard to hold me in, find themselves receiving images representing one or other of the food substances which are able to trigger a negative response in my body from those medicines. The homeopathic literature defines all such possibilities thanks to the good work in the field of homeopathy by many believers as well as the abuse of its nature by kaffir.

So the image of the mouth with the tongue is truly an image from the face of a person being gossiped to and not the mouth of whom is gossiping. Although, if you want to, you could take me here as a gossip, for in my own self regard is the total account to bear for the existence of such a homeopath, now having related the story.

The image of the mouth with a tongue can become turned into an umbrella, and an umbrellas can be regarded as an upside down cup with a handle. That is, a cup for catching ills instead of health giving energy. That is within a 100% thanks to my son.

Then the images which have been commonly been perceived, had a sight from the view of a person pushing a bicycle in the rain. The whole array of bicycle imagery implies a work ethic. Pushing the bicycle implies either an intolerance to riding, or having had an accident. The homeopath has a friend, whom also practises homeopath, and is whom first communicated to me about the Gurdjieff teaching, whom had a very bad accident upon her mountain bike. She is usually held is regard of many as quite an amazing character. But in her attendance upon children she is very negligent: she left her own son in the care of a man with a conviction for having had anal intercourse with a minor, and when I once left my son as a toddler with her, she let him tip a whole pot of glossy enamel aqua green coloured paint all over his body. She even had described to me that she had seen that it was about to happen and did not know why she could not herself act to prevent the fact of the paint spill. Now my own associations with that view of pushing the bicycle in the rain, were initially only of this particular person, whom had told me enough for me to know that she had somehow blamed the fact of her accident upon my own self. Perhaps that is why. But also it is that my mind can associate with a story from a group of her peers about a mountain bike race which they had a team competing in, and in which the Canadian person earlier mentioned was racing. That Canadian was first a patient of the homeopathic practise of the amazing accident haver, and later of the other homeopath, and while in my acquaintance had delivered a baby in somewhat of a miraculous sort of condition given the state of her own health, with much unacknowledged support from me, given as my thanks to her for teaching me to cook a chocolate and beetroot cake. The rain imagery could equitably have been her experience, which it is my preference to believe. My every association with the second person was always through the first mentioned person here, because that is how we had met. And there is in my memory a description of the second complaining about riding in the rain, but not that the first had her accident in the rain.

However, that I do not know for definite in that instance need be held to the side, if we begin to restring together the sequence, in an example of how the work of Angels with Jinn together can cause that acts of wrongful sihr are reshaped so as to reform the real world:

Puppet (then the person’s own hand operating it instead of a strangers); Mouth (that turns into an umbrella when that puppet grabs hold of it); (then the puppet holds the umbrella up and so) Pushing a bicycle in the rain (is in the rain experienced under an umbrella, of the shade falling);

Then the final image in the sequence had been ???

I do not know since all I have experienced was the bike rider using the puppet and mouth images as reason alone to blame me for their misery.

But thereby, if the image sequence has arrived at the person whom enacted the ill deed in sexual conduct, finding themselves to be their own puppet master, then finding that by blaming the mouth the puppet on their hand reaches out for the mouth and it becomes an umbrella, and then they walk along in rest from work, (as in rest from actual bodily labour with a mind towards self discipline), then if that person still seeks anybody to blame for their own ills, they might only find a mirror.

But here is the terror in the situation, in the self reflection in the mirror, within the pupil of the eye can be found the image of a man. Seeing him make the view seem to all the more be the fault of the person seeing. He is the Dajjal, but is also an innocent man, except in one thing alone: that upon meeting me, he tried to prove that the sequence of images of only puppet, mouth, and work rest, could be really proven to be the fault of me. What happened between us in acquaintance is not for me to acknowledge, and only his own body can know.

Whether or not this story is real I will leave to your own lives to find out.

Believe in Isa, and in Allah, for the truth will be hard.

Yet also in this world of illnesses, we can gradually awaken to how ridiculous this now will seem to us in the future in reality. Why could we be so unable to control what we want when we are holding money in our hands? I once made a jest about my name, when in Kyogle NSW in 2003, that Rebecca is like Rue Bear Kah, and just this evening, in connection with this disentangling of my own story from the lies about me which others may have imagined, I recognise that the sound accompanying the images being described had a sound alike to my name, in the place where I had been experiencing feeling to blame, but with a "d" sound also. It is illustrative that the "d" sound was eminating from an acquaintance, whom was imposed upon by the same homeopath and his wife, to adapt himself to taking upon his own nature their envy of me. That was in 1991, with me pregnant with my oldest son. The man whom introduced me to the homeopath, was not yet then a man, still a boy of about nineteen, and the words I remember him forming by will were "I don't want Becca", after his mind was questioned in respect of whether he wanted to 'tackle' managing myself as though I a kafir to his responsibility. His older sister is a friend, and over the past few years is one of two persons whom have really aided me in need by giving me money. She gave me all the money in her pocket when we met, and her act is very appreciable. (The other act of giving me any money when in need was from a Muslim man in the street whom observed me being in lack of enough self to be able to make a necessary decision, and his aid of only 60cents enabled me well enough. I will tend always to hide unaided need since my experience is of having been given material aid only as method of entrappment into a semblence of being in sin. So the instant mentioned first is truly a well minded act.)

There is one other matter I ought mention here. The moral of the story of course. It is that in all the nightmares of the Human condition which have passed through my mind for as many years as I am old, my own sustained belief has always been to never believe that any such images can be used to account for any ill in any person other than in my own mind for it having been possible to imagine such. This attitude is what will sustain reality in the dis-unifying of the world we had known, and reassembly of the matter of our Dreams into reality as we Pray for. But most importantly here it need to be noted that my three sons are all sustaining their own minds equitably in account in Allah. Such is the degree of our forbearance of antiquity.

Of this story as an allegory about the making of an allegory, what is untold is best left so, at least until there is another wrapping around this tale.


Believe

World of belief in God
Is just so not
What those whom fail it
Suppose us believers believe
God to be

Judge faith not
For belief is by definition
True to reason
In experiential conditions
So defy not
What your own life’s transitions
Have so far failed to provide of

And if you can not yet believe
In God
And every he bequeath
Then just believe in life
Being sustained by
A mysterious unity of energy
For what else is He
If not singularity
Too large for us to imagine
Too minute in action
For our detection
Too loving of our being
To let us end with existing
If only we forget momentarily
In Him need

For it is of us
Those parts
We have to have for love
In God above
Which fail to believe
In constance existing
Which are causal to existence ceasing
And yet within
The key is
That every
Perfect unity
Of Faith in Love
Of God above
Of reason
Of science and belief
Of hope to make the Earth our home a better place
Is the aspect of us
The Soul in living unity with
What will not cease
Without God recreating us
Once again
Every moment
So well we are beloved
In the face of the worst that has become of us



Was

Was he too attractive
To be talking to me
What was He believing about me
And why had he approached me
For while I tried and tried
To make him take me
As I am
Just a bit too daggy
For what he likes of his own manhood
So therefore
Thought I
Right from the start
Of our conversation
I am just not his type
As attractive as he might be
So if he will see
That I had not tried
To get him to like me
Then perhaps he might
Realise he knows not yet
What there is to like
About me
Because I was
Sitting outside in the city
Alone at night
And did not
Want
To be approached by any man
No matter how attractive
Nor matter that his mind
Beautifully intelligent
He describes and self defines
His Spirit alike
To mine
Giving no indication of why
But to my mind
Might he find
That of course I am above all too daggy
When approached on the city street at night
By a complete stranger
With a too far too sexy mind
That seems now to have adhered to mine
In love like
Just that he said to find
Unbelievable
And so had I
Until without his phone number
All I could think to was cry
And poetry aplenty write
When other work calls
Is that I once before was alright
Being the person who met him
But now am too daggy for even my self to like
So his attractive personality might
Just return his mind into
Bizarre un-kissed night
For to gently remind
An advertisement I did write
And semblance like
A public announcement
Of the well to do men's
Brothel opening night
Is that my anger is formidable
Because there at
Our parting had
I shown him what
The nights walk
Might have painted me as
And in permanence if
He is not who
Answers the ad just right
Is that was I a dag
Lacking only social regard that
Or just too fat
Because to my mind
His intensely attractive
Approach to me
Was only
Too likeable to trust
To specially pretty for love
Or was I only too ignorant of
But in his real esteem
Why the ******* made me want to scream
Of formidable endurance in ice cream
Who could but Dream
That an accident
Of our coincidence
Would have caused that between
We have found ourselves relating
Within Kiri Elaison
Bringing new meaning
To a marriage of convenience
This is the Dance




Was it of Non-believers only that this is Me

The kaffir
Though migaloo
Their name
Our language has too
And less shame
But hasnamuss those who
Seem to have sprung up amongst us
Can not believe
Themselves not originally
So are able to believe
Yet without only constance
And sadly detrimentally
To who can do them to be
Is the hasnamuss key
The kaffir not so able
To be managed well
While migaloo
Just prepared to be
Their own body
Letting our will do their wants and needs
Occasionally inhabiting
So sharing in accountability
Is this my linguistic analysis
Correct also to you
For the migaloo
Is an unusual beast
Who is gladly being proved
In Animist cultures
To want to accept
What is love’s consequence
So when it came to
Who but the migaloo
Aspiration to be
So insensitive to me
As kaffir be
So forming hasnamuss ideas
Of the reality including queers
Of potential possibility
Well what they tried to cause
To me to be
And perhaps you also
Was that they built a glass house
In their own imaginations
Fuelled of course by our own
Tricked into their beliefs
A glass house in the sky
For the minds
Of any person whom did not like
Their way to be
Of refuting time
But yet admired by them of mental capacity
As though our brains of nobility
Became baked into a great big pie
Of our own selves to eat
From which impossible it can be
To Dream at night
Without their taking a bit
Of our Human identity
And persecuting our memory
With false ideology
As though able to make us believe
We had no Islam in deed
Could not remember our own mind to read
And that whose mind
An open book to this seed
An open house
For any body who buys it
Their games of self hate
To take a look
To see what denies it
Yet in Human mentality please
For what sort of people are these
Relying upon a glass house of leaves
Dropped by the trees
Of Human wood
Knowing we should
Never forget these
And never be letting it pass
That any migaloo so much as farts
Or breaths
But the kaffir who
Have no worth in mind
Why the hasnamuss favour them to do
Us all into oblivion
For these so Human like
Whose heads are well read
Just simply don’t like
That a Human gets time to stand in
And their mind reading fees
They demand of us with no please
No thankyou
No informing
So fail us of our memory
That at any moment
We are in mind open to them
To the forgivers
Of our Humanity
And those who so did
Are as ridiculous a lid
As to have made up their dreams
From the types of commodities
That with they identified
When they decided
To turn away from Animist faith
So in a tupperware party
Arrived the containment of dreams
Combined with
A toilet and sugar show stream
With a floor and door show
Type of restrainment
The enforced upon
Those in their tupperware glass
Assuming of us
That when without
Sweets in the mouth
**** and urine coming out
Then what we leave on the floor
Or let through the door
Might be what we owe them
As though they are the only
Folk with access to any
Particle of what is in my memory
But to that tune rich
Have they stitched
Their own fanciful interpretive
Meaning
While portraying my self
As theirs for bleeding
Locked into the Tupperware shelf
Or somebody’s glass teapot
Perhaps the one with a cosy
For it shed the wool that
Maybe myself is too dozy
To have believed
In those Dreams with them
In which they train Human children
To be like them
And then seem to sell
To policemen
Off whose false interpretations
They breath in
Imposing
Yet so faulting
Only their own life
In their mysteriously
Well practised
Yet sadly poorly skilled
Timing drills
The whole electronic media
In its displacements
Of locations
Seems to have been caused so as to stabilise them
For what form of life could this
The call of a hassnamuss
That a banana in pyjamas
Came down some stairs
Only because
They imagined of me to be
Very politically
Defaming them
Which I am actually
As a consequence
Of a need to flush out their
Assumptions of me
It seems to be
Our way to know
What of us they suppose
Yet for my money
Who lives off their greed
Of managing to be
Who closed all the doors
Except that they imagined control of
Against me
Rather be in poverty
For it seems to be
The hasnamuss of course
Whom are yet obtaining money in blaming me
For no idea other than their own existences
Yet could any child have stopped them
Proving only that no child should be
Able to own and spend any money
And with that key
Just thank them
For the lesson in
Never imagining




The World Telling Me Its End

What will the world
When being Muslim became
Subjugated and defamed
In seeking truth
By Arab’s imagination
That the culture of Arabia
Is the only Islamic way
That my efforts to attain
An identity in belief to sustain
Of my own people’s place
In Islam no disgrace
Are being prevented
By Arabs insisting I need
The language of Arabia
To portray myself as a believer
While the policing of this place
Governed today by invaders
Imposed upon me
That it could be seditious
And imprison-able
To so learn to be
Able to speak in Arabic
Yet being an Aborigine of Australia
I know my own language word
Stands as well in Allah
My indigenous comprehension
Of Religion
Surpassing through ancient memory
My other schooled in keys
Which save me daily
From the police
Projecting upon me
That if it is not the sedition of
Speaking the Arabic tongue
Then indeed must it be
Seditious
To claim to be Muslim
This wing to sing from
Long sung but
We are who knew not of
Until it had begun
Among those of us
Not yet converted
Before our land was invaded
Is arisen
In decisions
Of what is the law we must deal with
What marks us ever to be Muslim
Regardless of any police diversions

Allah is the indivisible
He is everything but especially that we have not yet found
He is not what we have corrupted of the world
He causes no wrong
He is the unity of organisation which enables life to continue in constant re-creating
He is endlessness itself
He is the source of any beneficence, all mercy, and His is every Grace existing
Allah is the glue holding reality together
We work to his tune and by believing in Him can we know faith
In Faith we can realise His constant recreation of our life is fully dependant upon us working to his tune,
The Tune of living recreation each moment never forgetting or denying His is every cause in reality,
What Allah will not cause, exists because We have forgiven that He might not need to,
What Allah will not cause is only that world we are still in which is ending by our belief in him,
Thus by our suffering in accepting His love so as to Love him more perfectly,
And thereby denying our nature needless suffering,
Can we learn that His nature is to need us as we need Him,
In equal degree but that His Love is every above in magnitude and density,
So that we can Love Allah better is that we can receive of His love more properly,
Be one with all of the Ummah of Believers in Him, whether Jew, Christian, or Muslim, or of any other externalised belief identification, when alive in Him we are in Islam, and only those of us whom so recognise are able to manifest that the Ummah is, and that ever at Earth is and was the Ummah one unity of real belief in Allah.
By work of the Ummah to know what is of us the impurities which Allah is not, can Allah enable us to know what He is:

ALLAH (The Name Of God)
الله
الذى لا اله الا
AR-RAHMAN (The Beneficent)
الرحمن
AR-RAHIM (The Mercifull)
الرحيم
AL-MALIK (The Sovereign Lord)
الملك
AL-QUDDUS (The Holy)
القدوس
AS-SALAM (The Source Of Peace)
السلام
AL-MU'MIN (The Guardian Of Faith)
المؤمن
AL-MUHAYMIN (The Protector)
المهيمن
AL-AZIZ (The Mighty)
العزيز
AL-JABBAR (The Compeller)
الجبار
AL-MUTAKABBIR (The Majestic)
المتكبر
AL-KHALIQ (The Creator)
الخالق
AL-BARI (The Evolver)
البارىء
AL-MUSAWWIR (The Fashioner)
المصور
AL-GHAFFAR (The Forgiver)
الغفار
AL-QAHHAR (The Subduer)
القهار
AL-WAHHAB (The Bestover)
الوهاب
AR-RAZZAQ (The Provider)
الرزاق
AL-FATTAH (The Opner)
الفتاح
AL-ALIM (The All Knowning)
العليم
AL-QABID(The Constrictor)
القابض
AL-BASIT (The Expender)
الباسط
AL-KHAFID (The Abaser)
الخافض
AR-RAFI (The Exalter)
الرافع
AL-MUIZZ (The Honourer)
المعز
AL-MUZILL (The Dishonourer)
المذل
AS-SAMIE (The All Hearing)
السميع
AL-BASIR (The All Seeing)
البصير
AL-HAKAM (The Judge)
الحكم
AL-ADL (The Just)
العدل
AL-LATIF (The Subtle One)
اللطيف
AL-KHABIR (The Aware)
الخبير
AL-HALIM (The Forbearing One)
الحليم
AL-AZIM (The Great One)
العظيم
AL-GHAFUR (The All-Forgiving)
الغفور
ASH-SHAKUR (The Appreciative)
الشكور
AL-ALI (The Most High)
العلى
AL-KABIR (The Most Great)
الكبير
AL-HAFIZ (The Preserver)
الحفيظ
AL-MUQIT (The Maintainer)
المقيت
AL-HASEEB (The Reckoner)
الحسيب
AL-JALIL (The Sublime One)
الجليل
AL-KARIM (The Generous One)
الكريم
AR-RAQIB (The Watchfull)
الرقيب
AL-MUJIB (The Responsive)
المجيب
AL-WASI (The All-Embracing)
الواسع
AL-HAKEEM (The Wise)
الحكيم
AL-WADUD (The Loving)
الودوود
AL-MAJEED (The Most Glorious One)
المجيد
AL-BA'ITH (The Resurector)
الباعث
ASH-SHAHEED (The Witness)
الشهيد
AL-HAQQ (The Truth)
الحق
AL-WAKIL (The Trustee)
الوكيل
AL-QAWI (The Most Strong)
القوى
AL-MATEEN (The Firm One)
المتين
AL-WALI (The Protecting Friend)
الولى
AL-HAMEED (The Praiseworthy)
الحميد
AL-MUHSI (The Reckoner)
المحصى
AL-MUBDI (The Originator)
المبدىء
AL-MU'ID (The Restorer)
المعيد
AL-MUHYI (The Giver Of Life)
المحى
AL-MUMIT (The Creator Of Death)
المميت
AL-HAYEE (The Alive)
الحى
AL-QAYYUM (The Self-subsisting)
القيوم
AL-WAJID (The Finder)
الواجد
AL-MAJID (The Noble)
الماجد
AL-WAHID (The Unique)
الواحد
AL-SAMAD (The Eternal)
الصمد
AL-QADIR (The Able)
القادر
AL-MUQTADIR (The Powerful)
المقتدر
AL-MUQADDIM (The Expediter)
المقدم
AL-MU'AKHKHIR (The Delayer)
المؤخر
AL-AWWAL (The First)
الأول
AL-AAKHIR (The Last)
الآخر
AZ-ZAHIR (The Manifest)
الظاهر
AL-BATIN (The Hiddeen)
الباطن
AL-WALI (The Governor)
الوالى
AL-MUTA'ALI (The Most Exalted)
المتعالى
AL-BARR (The Source Of All Goodness)
البر
AL-TAWWAB (The Acceptor Of Repentance)
التواب
AL-MUNTAQIM (The Avenger)
المنتقم
AL-'AFUW (The Pardoner)
العفو
AR-RAOOF (The Compassionate)
الرؤوف
MALIK-UL-MULK (The Eternal Owner Of Sovereignty)
مالك الملك
ZUL-JALAL-E-WAL-IKRAM (The Lord Of Majesty and Bounty)
ذوالجلال والاكرام
AL-MUQSIT (The Equitable)
المقسط
AL-JAAMAY (The Gatherer)
الجامع
AL-GHANI (The Self-Sufficient)
الغنى
AL-MUGHNI (The Enricher)
المغنى
AL-MAANAY (The Preventer)
المانع
AD_DAARR (The Distresser)
الضار
AN-NAAFAY (The Propitious)
النافع
AN-NOOR (The Light)
النور
AL-HAADI (The Guide)
الهادى
AL-BADI (The Incomparable)
البديع
AL-BAQI (The Everlasting)
الباقى
AL-WARIS (The Supreme Inheritor)
الوارث
AR-RASHEED (The Guide To The Right Path)
الرشيد
AS-SABOOR (The Patient)



Here is a poem Allah enabled in my pen:



Eternity is Accountability

Elohim Allah
Will I be able to name him all
He who is first and forever
Even when I knew never
Elohim Allah is why I am that I weather
His Holy unending Grace
In each matter of my own will I face
His indivisible mercy
So not one might I disgrace
In no cry of mine
Could I first have named He
Elohim Allah will I be
For His unknowable worth
We ride our own hurst
In His strong standing Grace
That we have no face
Elohim Allah every Jinn be in His seen
Unending Forever Indivisible Together
If every word I know for
I could string out this poem for
What would I amount to at all
But that I am too poor
In every other of life's calls
I am responsible for
Every name when breathed who calls
Except His Absolute one and all
Of God being His Forgiving me
By his forgiveness thus
Speak Elohim Allah with me
That every word could be his name in Eternity
Except that I know my own responsibility
So by only my own breath will I be

Here is another Dua, not by my pen, but another to know for being able to feel yourself well in one Ummah, it has more words, for we need more when our minds are not yet about to feel all our feelings for Allah within less words:

O Allah, O Karim,
Please have Mercy on me.
O Allah, O Karim,
Please forgive me
for the sins I committed in the past
and those I will commit in the future.

O Allah,
have Mercy on all the Muslimeen,
and guide them.
Guide me O Allah,
and guide my parents,
my siblings, my cousins,
my aunts and uncles,
my nephews and nieces and so forth.

O Allah,
I ask You
to strengthen my iman and those around me.
I ask You to soften my heart
and to soften the hearts of the Believers.

O Allah,
forgive me for my shortcomings,
for only You are Perfect.

O Allah,
Please Forgive me
if I ever got too wrapped in a matter
that I didn't have the time to utter Your Name.

O Allah,
Please Forgive me for all the salat I missed
because of ignorance or laziness,
Please Forgive me for all the fasts I didn't make up,
thinking it was "alright, since I fasted most of the days anyway."

O Allah,
Please Forgive me
for the quarter I never dropped
into the metal cup for the homeless man begging on the street.

O Allah,
Please spark the love of Islam in my heart
and in the hearts of every single Muslim
until it gets implanted in their children
and their childern's children and so on.

O Allah,
I ask that You help me for I am weak
and will only grow stronger by Your Strength,
so Allah Please Strengthen me
to fight Shaitan and his whispers.

And if I ever fell into his trap
and followed my desire,
then sincerely forgive me,
for that displays not only my weakness,
but Your Greatness as well.

O Allah, Please lighten the punishment in the grave
for those before us and those after us.
Please Allah, lighten the punishment
and please shed light into every Muslim's grave.

O Allah, if I ever was too afraid
to stand up for Your Deen
because of what others would think,
then Forgive me, for I was a fool for doing so.

O Allah, Please Protect me and each Musilman,
and Protect especially the orphans and the widows.

O Allah, Please Strengthen the faith
of the destitute Muslims around the world,
so they have hope to live.

O Allah, if I ever forgot to do du'a
for even one suffering Muslim,
then Forgive me
for then it is as if I haven't done du'a
for the entire ummah.

O Allah,
Please be the Light of my eyes, ears and heart.
O Allah,
Please be the Light on the sides of me
and the Light behind me
and the light in front of me.

O Allah, Please Forgive me
for all the foul words I spoke
either out of ignorance or
because I was trying to be "cool."

O Allah, please forgive me
if I never stopped to think about You,
due to "other important things."

O Allah, Please Forgive me
for not having enough time
or creating time for reading the Qur'an.

O Allah, Please Forgive me
for listening to music
and watching movies and t.v.

O Allah, please forgive me
for all the yelling I've done
and the arguments I've been in.

For the only time
the voice should be raised
is for Your Praises!

O Allah, Please Forgive me
for my disrespect towards my family,
elders, siblings and so on.

O Allah, Please Forgive me
for any backbiting I have been accused of,
whether I did it consciously or unconsciously.

O Allah, Rab al-Alamin,
Forgive me,
Forgive me for everything.
So for everyone,
every single Muslim,
dead or alive,
I do du'a that you forgive them
for all their sins.

O Allah,
Please Please Please
help the suffering Muslims
of Kashmir, Palestine, Chechnya,
Bosnia, Gujarat, Nigeria,
Iraq, Afghanistan and everywhere around the world.

Please O Allah, make the Mujahideen victorious,
and let the beauty of Islam reign!
O Allah, Give victory to the Muslims!
O Allah, Please let True Islam reign!
O Allah, Please increase our knowledge
of Your Deen and this world.

Oh Allah, Please Help us all and guide us,
for You are Everything to us.

O Allah,
I cannot stress how much I ask
for Your Forgiveness and Your Guidance.

O Allah,
I fear You,
I fear You soooo much words cannot describe.
I fear the day when I will meet You,
and I WILL meet You.

When we are one on one,
and I have no one's help or support.
No-one can take the blame for me
nor I for them.
The only thing I will have
is a little book given to me by You
that has my deeds.

O Allah,
Please Forgive me for my thoughts,
for even though I get sinned only for my actions,
I cannot help but feel guilty for my thoughts
and I ask You to Forgive me for them
and to clear my mind of any impurities
until You become the Only thing on my mind.


O Allah,
Please Forgive me
if I ever did anything out of gain
for this life and not for Your pleasure.
If I ever did anything to "show off"
then Please Forgive me for that.

O Allah,
I do du'a
that You grant us all God-Fearing spouses
and grant us righteous children.

Oh Allah,
I do du'a
that You continue to strengthen this ummah
until the Day of Resurrection.

O Allah,
Forgive me
for whatever I have not mentioned,
for I am bound to forget
.....but You,
through Your Greatness...
You Never Forget.

O Allah,
Please Grant
all the Muslims
Jannah-tul-Firdaus.

O Allah,
I ask that You shed Your Mercy
on all the Prophets (peace be upon them)
and on all the Angels (peace be upon them).

Lastly, I do du'a
You shed Your Mercy
on the Prophet Muhammad ,
his family and companions.

I do du'a
that you grant Muhammad
the Highest Station in Paradise.
Rabinna Aataina
Fiduniya Hasinathow
Wa Fil Akhirati Hasinathow,
Wakina Adhab innaar
Ameen...

Praise Allah alone when our mind can with one unity begin to Dream again in reality
Thanks and Salam

Alaykumuassalamuwaramathuallahiwarabarakathudallah Rebecca