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06-04-2007, 09:31 PM
Hi, I was just wondering this question...is wine halal or/and can it be halal?

Yeah I know Why its haram its because, when its drank alot it makes people drunk and this then makes them do haram...

But I was wondering if its halal to have a bit or certain amount for example a glass or something a day?

Because A Glass of wine a day is proven to be good for the heart or something like that...

Wine has some things that are bad for you, and has some things that are good for you.
Same can be said of any other food, Drink too much wine, become an alchoholic, Eat to much have cholesterol and various other health problems...

^ Others might argue that the bad outweighs the good....true say I agree with that BUT.....for example if you are going to a party or something if your intended to drink alot of it then that would be out of control in some circumstances...but if u drink it....for example a glass after a meal or something then you know you won't get out of control easily....

And as I asked Can wine be halal? in those circumstances?

or is their other circumstances that in can be halal?

I'd really appreciate your help, Thanks in advance
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Kittygyal
06-04-2007, 09:34 PM
Salamualikum.
ma two cents before i go read the title so just answering simple.

YES!! on day of Judgement!!

Ma'assalama
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06-04-2007, 09:40 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Kittygyal
Salamualikum.
ma two cents before i go read the title so just answering simple.

YES!! on day of Judgement!!

Ma'assalama
I'm talking about now
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Kittygyal
06-04-2007, 09:41 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by ......
I'm talking about now
Salamualikum.
NO NEVER
ALLAH HU ALIM! STAY FIRMLY AWAY FROM ALCOHOL! IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT WHAT HAS BEEN FORBIDDEN FROM US HAS A REASON BEHIND IT SO YESH JUST FORGET ABOUT IT
Ma'assalama
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lilah
06-04-2007, 09:41 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by ......
Hi, I was just wondering this question...is wine halal or/and can it be halal?

Yeah I know Why its haram its because, when its drank alot it makes people drunk and this then makes them do haram...

But I was wondering if its halal to have a bit or certain amount for example a glass or something a day?

Because A Glass of wine a day is proven to be good for the heart or something like that...

Wine has some things that are bad for you, and has some things that are good for you.
Same can be said of any other food, Drink too much wine, become an alchoholic, Eat to much have cholesterol and various other health problems...

^ Others might argue that the bad outweighs the good....true say I agree with that BUT.....for example if you are going to a party or something if your intended to drink alot of it then that would be out of control in some circumstances...but if u drink it....for example a glass after a meal or something then you know you won't get out of control easily....

And as I asked Can wine be halal? in those circumstances?

or is their other circumstances that in can be halal?

I'd really appreciate your help, Thanks in advance
first....wine, spirits, alcoholic drinks cannot be halal because Allah (SWT) made it haram for us.

The Noble Qur'an - al-Baqarah 2:219

They ask you (O Muhammad ) concerning alcoholic drink and gambling. Say: "In them is a great sin, and (some) benefit for men, but the sin of them is greater than their benefit." And they ask you what they ought to spend. Say: "That which is beyond your needs." Thus Allâh makes clear to you His Laws in order that you may give thought.
Hadith - Abu Dawood, narrated Tariq ibn Suwayd or Suwayd ibn Tariq

Wa'il said: Tariq ibn Suwayd or Suwayd ibn Tariq asked the Prophet about wine, but he forbade it. He again asked him, but he forbade him. He said to him: Prophet of Allah, it is a medicine. The Prophet said: No it is a disease.


Hadith

Umm Salamah, the wife of the Prophet reports that he once said: "Allah has not placed a cure for your diseases in things that He has forbidden for you.'' (Reported by Baihaqi; Ibn Hibban considers this hadith to be sound.Bukhari has also related it on the authority of Ibn Mas'ud.)


Hadith - Abu Dawood; Sahih Bukhari

Abu ad-Darda reported that the Prophet said: "Allah has sent down both the malady and its remedy. For every disease He has created a cure. So seek medical treatment, but never with something the use of which Allah has prohibited.'
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islamirama
06-04-2007, 10:00 PM
Drinking alcohol is a major sin, for wine is the mother of all evils. It clouds the mind, wastes money, causes headaches, tastes foul, and is an abomination of the Shaytaan’s [Satan’s] handiwork. It creates enmity and hatred between people, prevents them from remembering Allaah and praying, calls them to zina [unlawful sexual relationships], and may even call them to commit incest with their daughters, sisters or other female relatives. It takes away pride and protective jealousy (gheerah), and generates shame, regret and disgrace, and puts the drinker in the same category as the most imperfect type of people, namely those who are insane. It leads to the disclosure of secrets and exposure of faults. It encourages people to commit sins and evil actions. It makes people transgress sacred limits and the one who is addicted to it is like an idol-worshipper.


How many wars has it started, how many rich men has it made poor, how many noble people has it brought low, how many blessings has it destroyed, how many disasters has it caused?


How often has it created division between man and wife?


How much regret has it generated and how many tears has it caused to flow?


How often has it closed the doors of goodness to the drinker and opened the doors of evil to him?
How often has it brought about calamity and hastened death?


How much trouble has it brought to the one who drinks it?


It is the source of sin, the key to evil; it takes away blessings and brings calamity.


Even if it did not have all these evil consequences, the fact that one cannot have both the wine of this world and the wine of Paradise is sufficient deterrent.
And the evil consequences of alcohol are many time more than we have mentioned.

From the words of Ibn al-Qayyim in Haadi al-Arwaah.
Allaah has warned us against it in His Book and on the lips of His Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).


1 – Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“O you who believe! Intoxicants (all kinds of alcoholic drinks), and gambling, and Al-Ansaab (stone altars for sacrifices to idols, jinn, etc), and Al-Azlaam (arrows for seeking luck or decision) are an abomination of Shaytaan’s (Satan’s) handiwork. So avoid (strictly all) that (abomination) in order that you may be successful”
[al-Maa’idah 5:90]


2 – Allaah has cursed the drinker of alcohol. In Sunan Abi Dawood (3189) it is narrated that Ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Allaah has cursed alcohol, the one who drinks it, the one who pours it, the one who sells it, the one who buys it, the one squeezes (the grapes, etc), the one for whom it is squeezed, the one who carries it and the one to whom it is carried.” Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani as stated in Saheeh Abi Dawood, 2/700.


3 – The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) likened the one who is addicted to alcohol to one who worships idols. It was narrated that Abu Hurayrah said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The one who is addicted to alcohol is like one who worships an idol.” Narrated by Ibn Maajah, 3375; classed as hasan by al-Albaani in Saheeh Ibn Maajah, 2720.


4 – The one who is addicted to alcohol will be denied admission to Paradise. It was narrated from Abu’l-Darda’ that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “No one who is addicted to alcohol will enter Paradise.” Narrated by Ibn Maajah, 3376; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani as stated in Saheeh Ibn Maajah, 2721.


5 – It was narrated that ‘Uthmaan (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: “Avoid alcohol for it is the mother of all evils. There was a man among the people who came before you who was a devoted worshipper. A seductive woman fell in love with him, and she sent her slave-woman to him to call him to bear witness. He went with the slave-woman, and every time they passed through a door, she locked it behind them, until he reached a beautiful woman with whom was a child and a vessel of wine. She said, ‘I did not call you to bear witness, rather I called you either to have intercourse with me, or to drink a cup of this wine, or to kill this child.’ He said, ‘Pour me some of this wine.’ So she poured him a cup, then he said, ‘Give me more,’ and he did not stop until he had has intercourse with her and killed the child. So avoid alcohol, for by Allaah faith and addiction to wine cannot be combined except soon one of them will be expelled.”
Narrated by al-Nasaa’i, 5666; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Nasaa’i, 5236.


6 – His prayers will not be accepted for forty days. It was narrated that ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Amr said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever drinks alcohol and gets drunk, his prayers will not be accepted for forty days, and if he dies he will go to Hell, but if he repents, Allaah will accept his repentance. If he drinks wine again and gets drunk, his prayer will not be accepted for forty days, and if he dies he will go to Hell, but if he repents, Allaah will accept his repentance. If he drinks wine again and gets drunk, his prayer will not be accepted for forty days, and if he dies he will go to Hell, but if he repents, Allaah will accept his repentance. If he does that again, Allaah will give him to drink of the mud of khabaal on the Day of Resurrection.” They said, “O Messenger of Allaah, what is the mud of khabaal?” He said, “The juice of the people of Hell.” Narrated by Ibn Maajah, 3377; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Ibn Maajah, 2722.


The fact that his prayers are not accepted does not mean that the person’s prayers are invalid, or that he should give up prayer. Rather what it means is that he will not be rewarded for them. So the purpose of his prayer is to fulfil his duty and to avoid the punishment for not praying.

Abu ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Mandah said: The phrase “his prayers will not be accepted” means that he will not be rewarded for his prayers for forty days, as a punishment for drinking alcohol. This is like what they said about the one who speaks when the imam is delivering the khutbah on Friday: he prays Jumu’ah [Friday prayer] but there is no Jumu’ah for him, meaning that he will not be given the reward for praying Jumu’ah, as a punishment for his sin.


Ta’zeem Qadr al-Salaah, 2/587, 588. See also Question no, 20037


Al-Nawawi said:
With regard to his prayer not being accepted, what this means is that he will not be rewarded for it, even though it is valid, and he does not have to repeat it.
With regard to what the questioner was told about her fasting not being accepted, this is based on the view of some of the scholars that the mention of prayer in the hadeeth quoted above is a warning that no other acts of worship will be accepted either.

Al-Mubaarakfoori said in Tuhfat al-Ahwadhi:
It is said that prayer was singled out for mention because it is the best physical act of worship, and if it is not accepted, it is more likely that other acts of worship will not be accepted either.


Al-‘Iraaqi and al-Mannaawi also said something similar.


Based on this view, fasting is not accepted either, but this does not mean that the person who drank alcohol should not fast, rather he is enjoined to fast, but it will not be accepted from him, as a rebuke.


Undoubtedly the person who drinks alcohol should still offer the prayers on time, and fast in Ramadaan. If he omits some of his prayer or fasting, he will be committing a major sin that is even greater than the sin of drinking alcohol.


It should be noted that if a Muslim commits sin and is unable to repent because of his weakness of faith, that should not be used to justify his persisting in sin or his addiction, or his neglecting to do acts of worship. Rather he has to do whatever he can of acts of worship and strive to give up the sins that he is committing.


The Muslim has to fear Allaah and beware of the wiles and snares of the Shaytaan [Satan]. He should not let his soul become a plaything of the Shaytaan. If his Shaytaan overpowers him and makes him fall into sin and disobedience towards his Creator, then he must hasten to repent, for “the one who repents is like the one who did not sin.” Narrated by Ibn Maajah, 2450; classed as saheeh by al-Busayri as stated in al-Zawaa’id Haashiyat Sunan Ibn Maajah.


This punishment for the one who drinks alcohol applies to the one who does not repent. As for the one who repents and turns to Allaah, Allaah will accept his repentance and accept his good deeds.


We ask Allaah to protect us from the tricks of the Shaytaan and to help us avoid temptations both obvious and hidden.


Praise be to Allaah, the Lord of the Worlds.

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islamirama
06-04-2007, 10:05 PM
Prophet(pbuh) said "Every intoxicant is prohibited. Allah has made a covenant regarding those who drink intoxicants to give them some tinat al-khabal to drink." He was asked what that was and he replied that it was the sweat of the inhabitants of hell, or the discharge of the inhabitants of hell. (Muslim)

He who drinks alcohol ( wine,liquor or beer) in this world will be made to drink poison from Asawida (black and poisonous snakes) that will cause both the skin and the flesh of his face to fall into the vessel he drinks from. God Almighty shall accept neither the fasting, prayers nor even the pilgrimage of the one who drinks, brews, sells, or uses money obtained from selling alcohol unless he or she sincerely repents, vowing never to commit that evil again, and Allah accepts his or her repentance. Otherwise, that person will be made to drink the pus of Hell for every single drop of alcohol he or she had imbibed in this world.

Abdullah bin Umar related that the Prophet(pbuh) said: "Do not sit together with drinkers, nor visit them when they are sick. Do not even attend their funerals. The drinkers of alcohol shall come on the Last Day with black faces, their tongues leaning on one side and sliva coming out of their mouths. Anyone who sees their filthy appearance will know that they were the drinkers of alcohol."


The Holy Prophet said: "Curse of Allah be on liquor, its maker and he who assists him, bearer, loader, distributor, seller, purchaser, consumer and whoever uses its sale proceeds and profit."

Some people think that the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), “Whatever intoxicates in large quantities, a little of it is haraam”, mean that if a small percentage of an intoxicant is mixed with a large amount of a substance that is not intoxicating, then it is haraam. This is a misunderstanding of the hadeeth. “Whatever intoxicates in large quantities, a little of it is haraam” means that if a lot of something will cause intoxication, and a little of it will not cause intoxication, then a lot or a little are both haraam, because you may drink a little that does not cause intoxication, then you may be tempted to drink more and become intoxicated. But if something is mixed with alcohol but the alcohol is a small amount and does not have any effect, then it is halaal and does not come under the ruling of this hadeeth.
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