The more unusual hadiths

[barney]

Hi.

A recently closed thread, which basically spammed loads of "unusual" hadiths was posted.(not by me :) )

Whilst I understand the reason for that, there was a lot of hadiths in there that would benifit from exploring in a constructive manner.

the first one was concerning The Prophet "ordering" Camel urine to be drunk.

Volume 1, Book 4, Number 234:
Narrated Abu Qilaba:

Anas said, "Some people of 'Ukl or 'Uraina tribe came to Medina and its climate did not suit them. So the Prophet ordered them to go to the herd of (Milch) camels and to drink their milk and urine (as a medicine). So they went as directed and after they became healthy, they killed the shepherd of the Prophet and drove away all the camels. The news reached the Prophet early in the morning and he sent (men) in their pursuit and they were captured and brought at noon. He then ordered to cut their hands and feet (and it was done), and their eyes were branded with heated pieces of iron, They were put in 'Al-Harra' and when they asked for water, no water was given to them." Abu Qilaba said, "Those people committed theft and murder, became infidels after embracing Islam and fought against Allah and His Apostle ."

Dealing soley with the urine drinking , we can see that Mohammed prescribed urine as a medicine.

it is noted that they afterwards became healthy.

The following possibilitys exist:
The Urine had miraculous properties and cured their aversion to the climate.
The Urine had no effect, butthey became healthy anyway.
The Urine had a negative effect but their immune systems dealt with it.

It is not as far as i know, a commonly prescribed treatment, and Indeed has been proven to be infectious and very bad for the health.
I imagine that islamic scholors would argue that the Urine had some special miraculous properties that one time, and this is why we dont see many, if any , muslims today drinking camel urine.

I'd be interested in hearing the muslim veiw on it.

[Malaikah]

:sl:

The most obvious thing to point out is that many desert Arabs use camel urine for a whole bunch of health reasons.

It was most unlikely that the Prophet pbuh started the practise, rather it was probably something they were already used to.

This report contains information from an Islamic perspective and a scientific perspective:

The benefits of drinking camel urine

Question:
I hope that you can provide me with a scientific answer – if such knowledge is available – about the saheeh hadeeth about drinking camel’s urine. May Allaah reward you.

Answer:
Praise be to Allaah.

The hadeeth referred to by the questioner is a saheeh hadeeth, in which it says that some people came to Madeenah and fell sick. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) told them to drink the milk and urine of camels, and they recovered and grew fat. In the story it also says that they apostatized and killed the camel-herder, then the Muslims caught them and executed them. Narrated by al-Bukhaari (2855) and Muslim (1671).

With regard to the health benefits of drinking the milk and urine of camels, they are many, and they are well known to the earlier generations of medical science and they have been proven by modern scientific research.

Ibn al-Qayyim said:

The author of al-Qanoon (the Canon) – i.e. the doctor Ibn Seena (Avicenna) – said:

The most beneficial of urine is the urine of Bedouin camels which are called najeeb. End quote.

Zaad al-Ma’aad (4/47, 48).

In the Emirati newspaper al-Ittihaad (issue no. 11172, Sunday 6 Muharram 1427 AH/5 February 2006) it says:

One of the most important things for which camels are raised is their milk, which is efficacious in treating many illnesses, including hepatitis, and the digestive system in general, various types of cancer and other diseases.

In an article by Dr Ahlaam al-‘Awadi, which was published in al-Da’wah magazine, issue no. 1938, 25 Safar 1425 AH/15 April 2004 CE, about the diseases which can be treated with camel’s milk, as proven by experience, it says that there are many benefits in camel’s milk. There follows some of what was said in the article by Dr. Ahlaam:

Camel’s urine is efficacious in the treatment of skin diseases such as ringworm, tinea and abscesses, sores that may appear on the body and hair, and dry and wet ulcers. Camel’s urine brings the secondary benefits of making the hair lustrous and thick, and removing dandruff from the scalp. Camel’s milk is also beneficial in treating hepatitis, even if it has reached an advanced stage where medicine is unable to treat it. End quote.

In the al-Jazeerah al-Sa’oodiyyah newspaper (issue no. 10132, Rabee’ al-Awwal 1421 AH) there is a quotation from the book Al-Ibl Asraar wa i’jaaz (The camel: secrets and wonders) by Darmaan ibn ‘Abd al-‘Azeez Aal Darmaan and Sanad ibn Mutlaq al-Subay’i:

As for camel’s urine, the book suggests that it has numerous uses which are beneficial for man. This is indicated by the Prophetic texts and confirmed by modern science … Scientific experiments have proven that camel’s urine has a lethal effect on the germs that cause many diseases.

Among the uses of camel’s urine, many women use it to wash their hair, to make it longer, and to make it lighter and more lustrous. Camel’s urine is also efficacious in the treatment of swelling of the liver and other diseases such as abscesses, sores that appear on the body and toothache, and for washing eyes. End quote.

Prof. Dr. ‘Abd al-Fattaah Mahmoud Idrees says: With regard to the benefits of camel’s urine in treating disease, Ibn Seena said in his Qanoon: The most beneficial of urine is the urine of the Bedouin camels known as najeeb. Camel’s urine is beneficial in treating al-hazaaz, and it was said that al-hazzaz is a pain in the heart caused by anger and so on. Camel’s urine, especially the urine of a young she-camel – is used as a cleansing substance to wash wounds and sores, to make the hair grow, to strengthen and thicken it and to prevent it falling out, and it is used to treat diseases of the scalp and dandruff. In a Master’s thesis by an engineer in applied chemistry, Muhammad Awhaaj Muhammad, that was submitted to the faculty of applied chemistry in the al-Jazeerah university in Sudan, and approved by the Dean of science and postgraduate studies in the university in November 1998 CE, entitled A Study of the Chemical Composition and Some Medical Uses of the Urine of Arabian Camels, Muhammad Awhaaj says:

Laboratory tests indicate that camel’s urine contains high levels of potassium, albuminous proteins, and small amounts of uric acid, sodium and creatine.

In this study, he explained that what prompted him to study the medicinal properties of camel’s urine was what he had seen of some tribesmen drinking this urine whenever they suffered digestion problems. He sought the help of some doctors in studying camel’s urine. They brought a number of patients and prescribed this urine for them, for a period of two months. Their bodies recovered from what they had been suffering from, which proves the efficacy of camel’s urine in treating some diseases of the digestive system.

It also proves that this urine is useful in preventing hair loss. He says:

Camel’s urine acts as a slow-acting diuretic, but it does not deplete potassium and other salts as other diuretics do, because camel’s urine contains a high level of potassium and proteins. It has also been proven to be effective against some types of bacteria and viruses. It brought about an improvement in the condition of twenty-five patients who used camel’s urine for dropsy, without disrupting their potassium levels. Two of them were cured of liver pain, and their liver function was restored to normal levels, as well as the tissue of the liver being improved. One of the medicines used to treat blood clots is a compound called Fibrinoltics which works by changing a substance in the body from its inactive form, Plasminogen, to its active form, Plasmin, in order to dissolve the substance that causes clotting, Fibrin. One of the components of this compound is called Urokinase, which is produced by the kidneys or from the urine, as indicated by the name “uro”.

The dean of the Faculty of Medical Science in the Sudanese al-Jazeerah university, Professor Ahmad ‘Abd-Allaah Ahmadaani, has discovered a practical way of using camel’s urine to treat dropsy and swelling in the liver. Its success has been proven in treating those who are affected by these diseases. He said in a seminar organized by the al-Jazeerah University:

The experiment began by giving each patient a daily dose of camel’s urine mixed with camel’s milk to make it palatable. Fifteen days after the beginning of the experiment, the patients’ stomachs grew smaller and went back to their normal size.

He said that he examined the patients’ livers with ultrasound before the study began, and he found out that the livers of fifteen out of the twenty-five were in a cirrhotic state, and some of them had developed cirrhosis of the liver as the result of bilharzia. All of the patients responded to treatment with camel’s urine, and some of them continued, by their own choice, to drink a dose of camel’s urine every day for a further two months. At the end of that time, they were all found to have been cured of cirrhosis of the liver. He said: Camel’s urine contains a large amount of potassium, as well as albumen and magnesium, because the camel only drinks four times during the summer and once during the winter, which makes it retain water in its body so as to preserve the sodium, and the sodium causes it not to urinate a great deal, because it keeps the water in its body.

He explained that dropsy results from a deficiency of albumen or potassium, and the urine of camels in rich in both of these.

He suggested that the best type of camels for using the urine as a remedy are young camels.

Dr. Ahlaam al-‘Awadi, a specialist in microbiology in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, supervised some scientific papers that dealt with her discoveries in the usage of camel’s urine for medical treatment, such as the papers by ‘Awaatif al-Jadeedi and Manaal al-Qattaan. During her supervision of the paper by Manaal al-Qattaan, she succeeded in confirming the effectiveness of using a preparation made from camel’s urine which was the first antibiotic produced in this manner anywhere in the world. Concerning the features of this new product, Dr. Ahlaam said:

It is not costly, and it is easy to manufacture. It can be used to treat skin diseases such as eczema, allergies, sores, burns, acne, nail infections, cancer, hepatitis and dropsy with no harmful side effects.

And she said:

Camel’s urine contains a number of healing factors such as antibiotics (bacteria that are present in it, salts and urea). The camel possesses an immune system that is highly equipped to combat funguses, bacteria and viruses, because it contains antibodies. It may also be used to treat blood clots and fibrinolytics may be derived from it, and it may be used to treat dropsy (which is caused by a deficiency in albumen and potassium, as camel’s urine is rich in both). Camel’s urine may also provide a remedy for abdominal complaints, especially those of the stomach and intestines, as well as asthma and shortness of breath. It caused a noticeable reduction in patients’ sugar levels. It is a remedy for low libido, and it aids in bone growth in children and in strengthening the heart muscles. It may be used as a cleansing agent for cleaning wounds and sores, especially the urine of young she-camels. It also helps the hair to grow and become strong and thick, and it helps to prevent hair loss and baldness, and can be used to treat dandruff. Camel’s urine may also be used to combat disease by using bacteria extracted from it. It was used to treat a girl who was suffering from an infection behind the ear, that was accompanied by pus weeping from it and painful cracks and sores. It was also used to treat a girl who was unable to extend the fingers of her hands because of the presence of so many cracks and sores, and whose face was almost black with pimples. Dr. Ahlaam said:

Camel’s urine may also be used to treat the digestive system and to treat some cases of cancer. She stated that the research that she had undertaken on camel’s urine proved that it was effective in destroying micro-organisms such as fungus, yeast and bacteria.

Dr. Rahmah al-‘Ulyaani, who is also from Saudi Arabia, carried out tests on rabbits infected with bacteria in the colon. She treated each group of rabbits with a different kind of medicine, including camel’s urine. There was a noticeable regression in the rabbits that were treated with other medicines, except for camel’s urine, which brought about a clear improvement.

Majallat al-Jundi al-Muslim, issue no. 118, 20 Dhu’l-Qa’dah 1425 AH; 1 January 2005 CE.

Allaah calls upon us to ponder the creation of the camel, as He says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Do they not look at the camels, how they are created?”

[al-Ghaashiyah 88:17]

This pondering is not limited to the outward form of the camel, or even to the inner workings of its body, rather it also includes that which we have discussed here, which is the benefits of the urine and milk of the camel. Modern scientific research is still discovering for us many of the wonders of this creature.

And Allaah knows best.

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[barney]

Thanks for that, Interesting stuff.:)

I did a bit of research and came up with the following.

Bedouins still drink Urine on occasions, straight from the tap, so to speak +o(
They beleive that it has some medicinal properties.

As a astringent (not taken internally) its quite effective.

It also contains potentially lethal bacteria in the tens of millions.

So the jurys out! Personally, I'll stick to cola.:D

[evangel]

Urine if left set becomes ammonia. The Norsemen used fermented cow urine to wash their clothes.

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[Malaikah]

So the jurys out! Personally, I'll stick to cola.:D

Eh, you're telling me...

Just thinking about it makes me want to vomit...

Gotta respect the people who have the stomach for it!! Guts of STEEL!

[evangel]

Eh, you're telling me...

Just thinking about it makes me want to vomit...

Gotta respect the people who have the stomach for it!! Guts of STEEL!

Actually STAINLESS STEEL. Steel would corrode.

[- Qatada -]

To clarify the original hadith, here's the explanation so people don't get any misunderstandings:

:salamext:

As for branding their eyes, the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) branded the eyes of the people of `Ukl or `Uraina with iron because they killed the herder and branded his eyes with iron. Imam Ibn Hajar stated the differences of opinions among scholars and he said, “The killing that took place (that is, in reference to the above hadith) was in retaliation and Allah Almighty says,

‘And one who attacketh you, attack him in like manner as he attacked you’ (Al-Baqarah: 194).”


It should be made clear that those people who came to the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) were Muslims and they were sick. The Prophet advised them to go to the herd of camels and to drink their milk and urine (as a medicine). When they became healthy, they killed the herder of the Prophet and drove away all the camels that were allocated for sadaqah (charity). When the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) came to know about this, he applied the punishment for Hirabah on them. Hiraba means killing people, robbing their money or raping women by an armed group of people. The punishment for Hirabah is mentioned in the Qur’an. Allah says:

“The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His Messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom” (Al-Ma’idah: 33).

That's why the punishment may have been so severe, and Allaah Almighty knows best.


More Info:
http://www.islamicboard.com/364582-post22.html

[- Qatada -]

Also, there is an article on the BBC site:

Camels could help cure humans

Does camel urine actually contain medicinal ingredients?

Horse Urine as a Western Cure
The popular estrogen product called PREMARIN is given to postmenopausal women. This PREMARIN is extracted from HORSE URINE. The name stands for PREgnant MARe urIN. Premarin, has become the third most prescribed drug in the world (just behind Tylenol).

Now if horse urine is used in the most mainstream prescriptions of the 21st Century, then I really wonder how camel would fair, considering it faces such drastic hazards and dreadful weather conditions that are by far more challenging than what a horse in a beautiful green barn would face. A camel's immune system is perhaps the toughest of all domestic animals, so it comes as no suprise why scientists conclude that camel antibodies could fight some of today's harsh diseases.

For a further read:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mi...ast/1702393.stm

Narrated Abu Qilaba: "Anas said, "Some people of 'Ukl or 'Uraina tribe came to Medina and its climate did not suit them. So the Prophet ordered them to go to the herd of (Milch) camels and to drink their milk and urine (as a medicine)... " (Sahih Bukhari, Ablutions (Wudu'), Volume 1, Book 4, Number 234)"



http://www.islamicboard.com/health-s...re-humans.html

[Umar001]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/1702393.stm

Fixed link.

[barney]

To clarify the original hadith, here's the explanation so people don't get any misunderstandings:

:salamext:

As for branding their eyes, the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) branded the eyes of the people of `Ukl or `Uraina with iron because they killed the herder and branded his eyes with iron. Imam Ibn Hajar stated the differences of opinions among scholars and he said, “The killing that took place (that is, in reference to the above hadith) was in retaliation and Allah Almighty says,

‘And one who attacketh you, attack him in like manner as he attacked you’ (Al-Baqarah: 194).”


It should be made clear that those people who came to the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) were Muslims and they were sick. The Prophet advised them to go to the herd of camels and to drink their milk and urine (as a medicine). When they became healthy, they killed the herder of the Prophet and drove away all the camels that were allocated for sadaqah (charity). When the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) came to know about this, he applied the punishment for Hirabah on them. Hiraba means killing people, robbing their money or raping women by an armed group of people. The punishment for Hirabah is mentioned in the Qur’an. Allah says:

“The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His Messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom” (Al-Ma’idah: 33).

That's why the punishment may have been so severe, and Allaah Almighty knows best.


More Info:
http://www.islamicboard.com/364582-post22.html

Well, there is not much more to say on this.
If it sits easy with people that the messanger of God branded eyes as a punishment, then it sits easy.
People accepting this or finding reasons to sagely nod at the beauty and wisdom of branding someones eyes, will find no arguement against this in pleas for silly modern sensibility.

It to me is yet another example that religion is an excuse to shed Human Values, because "Gods" "Values" are greater.

[Umar001]

Eye for an eye I think it's fair.

[Malaikah]

Well, there is not much more to say on this.
If it sits easy with people that the messanger of God branded eyes as a punishment, then it sits easy.
People accepting this or finding reasons to sagely nod at the beauty and wisdom of branding someones eyes, will find no arguement against this in pleas for silly modern sensibility.

It to me is yet another example that religion is an excuse to shed Human Values, because "Gods" "Values" are greater.

Did you totally miss the part about them being criminals, killing their helper, branding his eyes and stealing the camels?:?

[جوري]

I have written this before, not all the medications that we have today are synthesized from chemicals in the laboratories for instance, Insulin is synthesized from Ecoli bacteria, protamine sulfate comes from fish testicles, [(provera) progesterone] AKA Premarin, is made from pregnant mare's (horse) urine, Penicillin, derived from a common kind of mold that grows on bread. Vinca alkaloids derived from the common periwinkle plant. Some other hormones are harnessed from post menopausal women' urine.. A quick google search can confirm all previous so I am not sure what is odd about camel's urine? or why it would be for instance different than using pregnant horse urine?
peace!

[barney]

Did you totally miss the part about them being criminals, killing their helper, branding his eyes and stealing the camels?:?

Of course I saw it.
That dosn't change a thing.

If it sits easily with people that a prophet can order that, then it sits easy.

The idea of branding someones eyes is as barbaric as stoning.
Other prophets are not recorded as using torture before slaying people.

As I say, If people find some excuse in this action, fine.

[جوري]

I find a lot of American laws barbaric and inhuman, I was a few months ago, when we were requested by our attending to either join him or leave without loss of credit, as he was going to be seeing some "criminal" patients on one of the lower floors... well of course we decided to go, we found a 78 year old Cuban chained from his arms and legs and was in tears not to mention in very bad shape, all he can do was say "stay away from me I am a dangerous criminal--, I evaded deportation", he came here illegally to get treatment, and that is the welcome he got from the humanistic Americans!-- so pls don't come spewing humanistic laws, I don't even want to turn this political over what your co-called civilized people have done through the years of people they have occupied, or continue to do now along side the Americans. I just gave an example from every day life.. so why not put a sock in it, before you come speaking of what ought to have been done.. further I don't think you are very biblically well read.. browse through the pages of the bible again to see before I bring out a large cut and paste..
peace!

[جوري]

Actually I couldn't wait for your reqest for proof, and by the way this is from an Atheist website.. enjoy

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Cruelty and Violence in the Bible
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Genesis

Because God liked Abel's animal sacrifice more than Cain's vegetables, Cain kills his brother Abel in a fit of religious jealousy. 4:8

God is angry. He decides to destroy all humans, beasts, creeping things, fowls, and "all flesh wherein there is breath of life." He plans to drown them all. 6:7, 17

God repeats his intention to kill "every living substance ... from off the face of the earth." But why does God kill all the innocent animals? What had they done to deserve his wrath? It seems God never gets his fill of tormenting animals. 7:4

God drowns everything that breathes air. From newborn babies to koala bears -- all creatures great and small, the Lord God drowned them all. 7:21-23

God tells Abram to kill some animals for him. The needless slaughter makes God feel better. 15:9-10

Hagar conceives, making Sarai jealous. Abram tells Sarai to do to Hagar whatever she wants. "And when Sarai dealt hardly with her, she fled." 16:6

Lot refuses to give up his angels to the perverted mob, offering his two "virgin daughters" instead. He tells the bunch of angel rapers to "do unto them [his daughters] as is good in your eyes." This is the same man that is called "just" and "righteous" in 2 Peter 2:7-8. 19:7-8

God kills everyone (men, women, children, infants, newborns) in Sodom and Gomorrah by raining "fire and brimstone from the Lord out of heaven." Well, almost everyone -- he spares the "just and righteous" Lot and his family. 19:24

Lot's nameless wife looks back, and God turns her into a pillar of salt. 19:26

God threatens to kill Abimelech and his people for believing Abe's lie. 20:3-7

Sarai tells Abraham to "cast out this bondwoman and her son." God commands him to "hearken unto her voice." So Abraham abandons Hagar and Ishmael, casting them out into the wilderness to die. 21:10-14

God orders Abraham to kill Isaac as a burnt offering. Abraham shows his love for God by his willingness to murder his son. But finally, just before Isaac's throat is slit, God provides a goat to kill instead. 22:2-13

Abraham shows his willingness to kill his son for God. Only an evil God would ask a father to do that; only a bad father would be willing to do it. 22:10

Dinah, the daughter of Jacob, is "defiled" by a man who seems to love her dearly. Her brothers trick all of the men of the town and kill them (after first having them all circumcised), and then take their wives and children captive. 34:1-31

"The terror of God was upon the cities that were round about them." 35:5

"And Er, Judah's firstborn, was wicked in the sight of the Lord; and the Lord slew him." What did Er do to elicit God's wrath? The Bible doesn't say. Maybe he picked up some sticks on Saturday. 38:7

After God killed Er, Judah tells Onan to "go in unto they brother's wife." But "Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and ... when he went in unto his brother's wife ... he spilled it on the ground.... And the thing which he did displeased the Lord; wherefore he slew him also." This lovely Bible story is seldom read in Sunday School, but it is the basis of many Christian doctrines, including the condemnation of both masturbation and birth control. 38:8-10

After Judah pays Tamar for her services, he is told that she "played the harlot" and "is with child by *****dom." When Judah hears this, he says, "Bring her forth, and let her be burnt." 38:24

Joseph interprets the baker's dream. He says that the pharaoh will cut off the baker's head, and hang his headless body on a tree for the birds to eat. 40:19
Exodus

Moses murders an Egyptian after making sure that no one is looking. 2:11-12

God threatens to kill the Pharaoh's firstborn son. 4:23

God decides to kill Moses because his son had not yet been circumcised. 4:24-26

God will make sure that Pharaoh does not listen to Moses, so that he can kill Egyptians with his armies. 7:4

"And the Egyptians shall know that I am the LORD." Who else could be so cruel and unjust? 7:5, 17

God tells Moses and Aaron to smite the river and turn it into blood. 7:17-24

The fifth plague: all cattle in Egypt die. 9:2-6

The sixth plague: boils and blains upon man and beast. 9:9-12

"For I will at this time send all my plagues upon thine heart, and upon thy servants, and upon thy people; that thou mayest know that there is none like me in all the earth." Who else but the biblical god could be so cruel? 9:14

The seventh plague is hail. "And the hail smote throughout the land of Egypt all that was in the field, both man and beast." 9:22-25

These verses clearly show that the mass murder of innocent children by God was premeditated. 11:4-6 (see 12:29-30)

God will kill the Egyptian children to show that he puts "a difference between the Egyptians and Israel." 11:7

God explains to Moses that he intends to "smite all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and beast. 12:12

After God has sufficiently hardened the Pharaoh's heart, he kills all the firstborn Egyptian children. When he was finished "there was not a house where there was not one dead." Finally, he runs out of little babies to kill, so he slaughters the firstborn cattle, too. 12:29

To commemorate the divine massacre of the Egyptian children, Moses instructs the Israelites to "sacrifice to the Lord all that openeth the matrix" -- all the males, that is. God has no use for dead, burnt female bodies. 13:2, 12, 15

After hardening Pharaoh's heart a few more times, God drowns Pharaoh's army in the sea 14:4-28

Moses and the people sing praises to their murderous god. 15:1-19

"The Lord is a man of war." Indeed, judging from his acts in the Old Testament, he is a vicious warlike monster. 15:3

God's right hand dashes people in pieces. 15:6

If you do what God says, he won't send his diseases on you (like he did to the Egyptians). But otherwise.... 15:26

Joshua, with God's approval, kills the Amalekites "with the edge of the sword." 17:13

"The Lord has sworn [God swears!] that the Lord will have war with Amalek from generation to generation." 17:14-16

Any person or animal that touches Mt. Sinai shall be stoned to death or "shot through." 19:12-13

Like the great and powerful Wizard of Oz, nobody can see God and live. 19:21

God gives instructions for killing and burning animals. He says that if we will make such "burnt offerings," he will bless us for it. What kind of mind would be pleased by the killing and burning of innocent animals? 20:24

A child who hits or curses his parents must be executed. 21:15, 17

An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. 21:24-25

If an ox gores someone, "then the ox shall surely be stoned." 21:28

If an ox gores someone due to the negligence of its owner, then "the ox shall be stoned, and his owner shall be put to death.". 21:29

If an ox gores a slave, the owner of the ox must pay the owner of the slave 30 shekels of silver, and "the ox shall be stoned." 21:32

"Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live." Thousands of innocent women have suffered excruciating deaths because of this verse. 22:18

"Whosoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death." Is it really necessary to kill such people? Couldn't we just send them to counseling or something? 22:19

"He who sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the Lord only, he shall be utterly destroyed." If this commandment is obeyed, then the four billion people who do not believe in the biblical god must be killed. 22:20

If you make God angry enough, he will kill you and your family with his own sword. 22:24

"The firstborn of thy sons thou shalt give unto me." (As a burnt offering?) 22:29

God promises to "send his fear before the Israelites" and to kill everyone that they encounter when they enter the promised land. 23:27

Moses has some animals killed and their dead bodies burned for God. Then he sprinkles their blood on the altar and on the people. This makes God happy. 24:5-8

Get some animals, kill them, chop up their bodies, wave body parts in the air, burn the carcasses, and sprinkle the blood all around -- in precisely the way God tells you. It may well make you sick, but it makes God feel good. 29:11-37

Have your killed and offered your bullock for a sin offering today? How about the two lambs you are supposed to offer each day? 29:36-39

Wash up or die. 30:20-21

Moses burned the golden calf, ground it into powder, and then forced it down the throats of all the people. 32:20

Whoever puts holy oil on a stranger shall be "cut off from his people." 30:33

Those who break the Sabbath are to be executed. 31:14

God asks to be left alone so that his "wrath may wax hot" and he can "consume them. 32:10

God orders the sons of Levi (Moses, Aaron, and the other members of their tribe that were "on the Lord's side") to kill "every man his neighbor." "And there fell of the people that day about 3000 men." 32:27-28

But God wasn't satisfied with the slaughter of the 3000, so he killed some more people with a plague. 32:35

If you can't redeem him, then just "break his neck." Hey, it's all for the glory of God. 34:20

Whoever works, or even kindles a fire, on the Sabbath "shall be put to death." 35:2-3
Leviticus

God gives detailed instructions for performing ritualistic animal sacrifices. such bloody rituals must be important to God, judging from the number of times that he repeats their instructions. Indeed the entire first nine chapters of Leviticus can be summarized as follows: Get an animal, kill it, sprinkle the blood around, cut the dead animal into pieces, and burn it for a "sweet savor unto the Lord." Chapters 1 - 9

"Flay the burnt offering; cut it into pieces." 1:6

Burn the head, fat, and entrails for "a sweet savour unto the Lord." 1:8-9

"Kill it and sprinkle blood round about." 1:11, 3:2, 3:8, 3:13

"Cut it into pieces and burn it for a sweet savour unto the Lord." 1:12-13

"Wring off its head and burn it." 1:15

"For a sweet savour unto the Lord." 1:17

"Part it in pieces... it is a meat offering." 2:6

"It is a thing most holy of the offerings of the LORD made by fire." 2:10

What to do with the fat, kidneys, and liver of your burnt offerings. 3:3-4, 3:9-10, 3:14-16

"Kill the bullock before the Lord and take of the bullock's blood." 4:4

"The priest shall dip his finger in the blood and sprinkle the blood seven times before the Lord." 4:6, 4:17

"Pour all the blood at the bottom of the altar." 4:7

What to do with the fat, kidneys, liver, skin, head, entrails, and dung from your burnt offerings. 4:8-11

"The bullock shall be killed before the Lord." 4:14

"Kill it and pour out the blood." 4:24-25

"Slay it for a sin offering, pour out the blood, and burn the fat for a sweet savour unto the Lord." 4:29-31

Slay it for a sin offering, put the blood on your finger, and pour out the blood at the bottom of the altar. 4:33-34

Wringing off the heads of pigeons for God. 5:8-9

Kill the sin offering before the Lord. "It is most holy." 6:25

The holy law of trespass offering: Find an animal; kill it; sprinkle the blood around; offer God the fat, rump, kidneys, and caul; burn and eat it in the holy place, for "it is most holy." 7:1-6

The priest must sprinkle the blood of the peace offerings. 7:14

Be careful what you eat during these animal sacrifices. Don't eat fat or blood -- these are for God. (And he doesn't like to share!) 7:18-27

God gives instructions for "wave offerings" and "heave offerings." He says these offerings are to be made perpetually "by a statute for ever." Have you made your heave offering today? 7:30-36

Moses does it all for God. First he kills an animal; wipes the blood on Aaron's ears, thumbs, and big toes. Then he sprinkles blood round about and waves the guts before the Lord. Finally he burns the whole mess for "a sweet savour before the Lord." 8:14-32

More killing, sprinkling of blood, waiving animal parts, and burning carcasses "before the Lord." 9:2-21

Kill the calf, dip your finger in the blood, sprinkle the blood round about, burn the fat and entrails, and wave the breast for a wave offering before the Lord. 9:8-21

Two of the sons of Aaron "offered strange fire before the Lord" and "there went out fire from the Lord, and devoured them, and they died before the Lord." 10:1-3

If priests misbehave at the tabernacle by uncovering their heads, tearing their clothes, leaving with holy oil on them, or by drinking "wine or strong drink", then God will kill them and send his wrath on "all the people." 10:6-9

After a woman gives birth, a priest must kill a lamb, pigeon, or dove as a sin offering. This is because having children is sinful and God likes it when things are killed for him. 12:6-8

God's law for lepers: Get two birds. Kill one. Dip the live bird in the blood of the dead one. Sprinkle the blood on the leper seven times, and then let the blood-soaked bird fly off. Next find a lamb and kill it. Wipe some of its blood on the patient's right ear, thumb, and big toe. Sprinkle seven times with oil and wipe some of the oil on his right ear, thumb and big toe. Repeat. Finally kill a couple doves and offer one for a sin offering and the other for a burnt offering. 14:2-32

God "put the plague of leprosy" into the houses of the Canaanites. 14:34

God explains the use of scapegoats. It goes like this: Get two goats. Kill one. Wipe, smear, and sprinkle the blood around seven times. Then take the other goat, give it the sins of all the people, and send it off into the wilderness. 16:6-28

Sprinkle the blood and burn the fat for a sweet savour unto the Lord. 17:6

If you upset God, he'll cause the land to vomit you out. 18:25

"Whosoever shall commit any of these abominations ... shall be cut off from among their people." 18:29, 19:8

Don't eat sacrifices on the third day or God will cut you off from among your people. 19:6-8

Kill anyone who "gives his seed" to Molech. If you refuse, God will cut you and your family off. 20:2-5

"For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall surely be put to death." Couldn't we try spanking first? 20:9

Both parties in adultery shall be executed. 20:10

If a man has sex with his father's wife, kill them both. 20:11

If a man "lies" with his daughter-in-law, then both must be killed. 20:12

If a man has sex with another man, kill them both. 20:13

If you "lie" with your wife and your mother-in-law (now that sounds fun!), then all three of you must be burned to death. 20:14

If a man or woman "lie with a beast" both the person and the poor animal are to be killed. 20:15-16

People with "familiar spirits" (witches, fortune tellers, etc.) are to be stoned to death. 20:27

A priest's daughter who "plays the *****" is to be burned to death. 21:9

God gives us more instructions on killing and burning animals. I guess the first nine chapters of Leviticus wasn't enough. He says we must do this because he really likes the smell -- it is "a sweet savour unto the Lord." 23:12-14, 18

Don't do any work on the day of atonement or God will destroy you. 23:29-30

A man curses and blasphemes while disputing with another man. Moses asks God what to do about it. God says that the whole community must stone him to death. "And the children of Israel did as the Lord and Moses commanded." 24:10-23

Anyone who blasphemes or curses shall be stoned to death by the entire community. 24:16

God tells the Israelites to make slaves out of their neighbors and their families. The "heathens" and "strangers" are to be their possessions forever. 25:44-46

God tells the Israelites to "chase" their enemies and make them "fall before you by the sword." He figures five of the Israelites will be able to "chase" a hundred of their enemies, and a hundred will be able to "put ten thousand to flight." 26:7-8

God describes the torments that he has planned for those who displease him. The usual stuff: plagues, burning fevers that will consume the eyes, etc. but he reserves the worst for the little children. He says "ye shall sow your seed in vain, for your enemies shall eat it," "I will send wild beasts among you, which shall rob you of your children," and "ye shall eat the flesh of your sons and daughters." 26:16-39

All "devoted" things (both man and beast) "shall surely be put to death." 27:28-29
Numbers

God shows his hospitality with the admonition: "The stranger that cometh nigh shall be put to death." 1:51, 3:10, 3:38

Two of Aaron's sons are killed by God for "offering strange fire before the Lord." 3:4

Don't touch or "go in to see when the holy things are covered." God kills people who touch or look at covered holy things. 4:15, 20

God tells the people to expel from camp "every leper, every one that hath an issue, and whoever is defiled by the dead." So by God's instructions, the sick are abandoned and left to suffer and die alone. 5:1-4

"And when the people complained, it displeased the Lord: and the Lord heard it." (He had his hearing aid on.) He then burned the complainers alive. That'll teach them. 11:1

"And wile the flesh [of the quails] was yet between their teeth, ere it was chewed, the wrath of the Lord was kindled against the people, and the Lord smote the people with a very great plague. "The Bible isn't too clear about what these poor folks did to upset God so much; all it says is that they had "lusted." 11:33

Miriam and Aaron (Moses' brother and sister) criticize Moses for marrying an Ethiopian woman and thus breaking the law of God. But God makes it clear that his rules don't apply to his favorites, and he strikes Miriam with leprosy. Notice that only Miriam is punished, though both she and Aaron complained. 12:1, 9-10

More plagues and pestilence sent by God. God repeats one of his favorite promises: "your carcasses shall fall in this wilderness." 14:12, 29, 14:32-37

God punishes the children for the failings of their great-great grandfathers. 14:18

God killed those that murmured against him with a plague. 14:36-37

God gives more instructions for the ritualistic killing of animals. The smell of burning flesh is "a sweet savour unto the Lord." 15:3, 13-14, 24

The Israelites find a man picking up sticks on the sabbath. God commands them to kill him by throwing rocks at him. 15:32-36

Because of a dispute between Korah and Moses, God has the ground open up and swallow Korah, Dathan, and Abiram "and their wives, and their sons, and their little children." Then, just for the hell of it, God has a fire burn to death 250 "men that offered incense." 16:20-35

After God killed Korah, his family, and 250 innocent bystanders, the people complained saying, "ye have killed the people of the Lord." So God, who doesn't take kindly to criticism, sends a plague on the people. And "they that died in the plague were 14,700." 16:41-50

God threatens to kill those who murmur. To which the people reply, "Behold, we die, we perish, we all perish .... Shall we be consumed with dying?" 17:12-13

Stay away from holy things and places -- like churches. God might have to kill you if you get too close.18:3, 22, 32

God shows us how to make new friends by saying : "The stranger that cometh nigh shall be put to death." 18:7

God describes once again the procedure for ritualistic animal sacrifices. such rituals must be extremely important to God, since he makes their performance a "statute" and "covenant" forever. 18:17-19

The purification of the unclean. These absurd rituals, cruel sacrifices, and unjust punishments are vitally important to God. They are to be "a perpetual statute" for all humankind. 19:1-22

"And the Lord hearkened to the voice of Israel, and delivered up the Canaanites; and they utterly destroyed them and their cities." This verse demonstrates the power of prayer: If you ask God, he will destroy entire cities for you. 21:3

God sends "fiery serpents" to bite his chosen people, and many of them die. 21:6

God delivers the Amorites into Moses' hands. (You're in God hands with Moses.) So Moses does the usual thing, killing everyone "until their was none left alive." 21:34-35

God's people will kill like a lion and then "drink the blood of the slain." 23:24

God, who is as strong as a unicorn, will eat up the nations, break their bones, and then pierce them through with his arrows. What a guy! 24:8

After the people "commit *****dom with the daughters of Moab," Moses has them all killed. Then God tells Moses to hang their dead bodies up in front of him; God says that this will satisfy him. 25:1-5

When one of the Israelite men brings home a foreign woman, "Phinehas (Aaron's grandson) sees them and throws a spear "through the man .. and the woman through her belly." This act pleases God so much that "the plague was stayed from the children of Israel." But not before 24,000 had died. 25:6-9

For impaling the interracial couple, God rewards Phinehas and his sons with the everlasting priesthood. 25:10-13

God tells Moses how to care for his neighbors by saying: "Vex the Midianites, and smite them." 25:16-17

The ground swallow Korah and his companions and a fire consumes 250 men. 26:10

"And Nadab and Abihu died when they offered strange fire before the Lord." When you go camping avoid making any unusual fires. 26:61

In these chapters, God provides ridiculously detailed instructions for the ritualistic sacrifice of animals. The burning of their dead bodies smells great to God. Eleven times in these two chapters God says that they are to him a "sweet savour." 28 - 29

Under God's direction, Moses' army defeats the Midianites. They kill all the adult males, but take the women and children captive. When Moses learns that they left some live, he angrily says: "Have you saved all the women alive? Kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves." So they went back and did as Moses (and presumably God) instructed, killing everyone except for the virgins. In this way they got 32,000 virgins -- Wow! (Even God gets some of the booty -- including the virgins.) 31:1-54

God killed all the Egyptian firstborn. 33:4

God tells Moses to exterminate the residents of Canaan and destroy all of their religious symbols and possessions. 33:50-52

But if the Israelites don't kill them all, then God will make them pricks in their eyes and thorns in their sides. And he will do unto the Israelites as he planned to do to the inhabitants of Canaan. 33:55-56

"The revenger of blood" must murder the murderer just as soon as he sees him. 35:19, 21

When a murder is committed the blood pollutes the land. The only way to cleanse it is to spill more blood by killing the killer. 35:30, 33
Deuteronomy

"The Lord destroyed them before them" -- the general treatment of the people who were supposedly displaced by the Israelites. 2:21-22

All nations shall be terrorized by the followers of Yahweh. 2:25

God hardened the heart of the king of Heshbon and so that he could have him and all of his people killed. 2:30

At God's instructions, the Israelites "utterly destroyed the men, women, and the little ones" leaving "none to remain." 2:33-36

The Israelites, with God's help, kill all the men, women, and children of every city. 3:3-6

When going to war, don't be afraid. God is on your side; "he shall fight for you." 3:22

God destroyed the followers of Baalpeor. 4:3

God brought the Israelites out of Egypt "by war ... and by great terrors." 4:34

If someone makes an image of anything (like a bird or flower) then God will destroy the entire nation. 4:25-26

If you worship the wrong god, God will get jealous and kill you. 6:15

God instructs the Israelites to kill, without mercy, all the inhabitants (strangers) of the land that they conquer. 7:2

If you do show any mercy to such strangers, "give your daughters to any of them, or "take" any of their daughters, then you'll get God so angry that he'll "destroy thee suddenly." 7:4

God will kill those who hate him. 7:10

God commands his people to "consume all the people which the Lord thy God shall deliver thee; thine eye shall have no pity on them." 7:16

God will send hornets to kill your enemies, "for the Lord thy God is among you, a mighty God and terrible." 7:20-23

"If thou do at all forget the LORD thy God, and walk after other gods ... ye shall surely perish." 8:19-20

God is "a consuming fire" that destroys people. 9:3

"The blood of sacrifices shall be poured out ... and thou shalt eat the flesh." Isn't this the sort of thing that Satanists are accused of doing? 12:27

Kill those of other faiths. 12:30

Prophets and dreamers are to be executed if they say or dream the wrong things. 13:1-5

If your brother, son, daughter, wife, or friend tries to get you to worship another god, "thou shalt surely kill him, thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death." 13:6-10

If you hear of a city where another god is worshiped, then destroy everyone in the city (even the cattle) and burn it down. (Watch out Salt Lake!) 13:12-16

Kill everyone who has religious beliefs that are different from your own. 17:2-7

Anyone who will not listen to a priest or a judge must be executed. 17:12-13

False prophets are to be (you guessed it) executed. How do you know who is a false prophet? By whether or not their predictions come true. (Watch out Jehovah's Witnesses!) 18:20

Murderers and perjurers are to be executed -- "and thine eye shall not pity" them. 19:11-13, 18-21

"And thine eye shall not pity. Life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot." 19:21

God travels with people and fights in their wars. 20:4

In the cities that god "delivers into thine hands" you must kill all the males (including old men, boys, and babies) with "the edge of the sword .... But the women ... shalt thou take unto yourself." 20:13

"But of the cities ... which the Lord thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth." Kill the old men and women, the sick and the dying, the blind and the lame, pregnant mothers, nursing mothers, infants, toddlers, and babies. 20:16

If you find a dead body and don't know the cause of death, then get all the elders together, cut off the head of a heifer, wash your hands over its body, and say our hands have not shed this blood. (That'll do it!) 21:1-8

If you have a "stubborn and rebellious son," then you and the other men in your neighborhood "shall stone him with stones that he die." 21:18-21

Hang on trees the bodies of those who are "accursed of God." They make nice decorations. 21:22

If a man marries, then decides that he hates his wife, he can claim she wasn't a virgin when they were married. If her father can't produce the "tokens of her virginity" (bloody sheets), then the woman is to be stoned to death at her father's doorstep. 22:13-21

"If a man be found lying with a woman married to a husband, then they shall both of them die." 22:22

If a betrothed virgin is raped in the city and doesn't cry out loud enough, then "the men of the city shall stone her to death." 22:23-24

Legal disputes are settled by a judge who determines guilt or innocence. No lawyers or jury are needed. Those found guilty will be beaten with 40 stripes. 25:1-3

If two men fight and the wife of one grabs the "secrets" of the other, "then thou shalt cut off her hand" and "thine eye shall not pity her." 25:11-12

God commands the Israelites to "blot out the rembrance of Amalek from under heaven." A few hundred years later God orders Saul to kill of the Amalekites "both man and woman, infant and suckling." (1 Sam.15:2-3) 25:19

If you don't obey all of the laws that are given in the Old Testament, God shower you with the curses that are given in the next 52 verses. 28:16-68

"Cursed shall be the fruit of thy body." 28:18

God will send you "cursing, vexing, the pestilence, consumption, fever, inflammation, extreme burning, the sword, blasting, and mildew." 28:20-22

"And thy carcass shall be meat to all the fowls of the air." 28:25-26

"The Lord will smite thee with the botch of Egypt, and the emerods [hemorrhoids], and with the scab, and with the itch, whereof thou canst be healed. The Lord will smite thee with madness, and blindness, and astonishment of heart." 28:27-28

"Thine ox shall be slain before thine eyes." 28:31

Thy sons and thy daughters shall be given unto another people." 28:32

You will be enslaved and driven mad in another country. 28:33-34

"The Lord will smite thee in the knees, and in the legs, with a sore botch that cannot be healed, from the sole of thy foot unto the top of thy head." 28:35

You will be ruled by other nations, forced to serve other gods, become a laughingstock among your neighbors, have your crops destroyed by locusts, your vines eaten by worms, and have fruitless olive trees. 28:36-40

"Thou shalt begat sons and daughters, but thou shall not enjoy them; for they shall go into captivity." 28:41

"All these curses shall come upon thee ... and upon thy seed for ever." 28:48-49

God will enslave you and destroy you with hunger, thirst, hardship, and all kinds of deprivation. 28:48-52

"And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the flesh of thy sons and of thy daughters." 28:53-55

"The tender and delicate woman" will be forced to eat her own children "that cometh out from between her feet." 28:56-57

If you don't do as God says he'll send plagues to torment and destroy you. 28:58-64

"The LORD shall give thee there a trembling heart, and failing of eyes, and sorrow of mind." 28:65-67

God will have you sold to your enemies -- but even they won't buy you. 28:68

If you serve the gods of other nations, "all the curses that are in this book" will fall upon you. 29:18-20

"And the Lord will put all these curses upon thine enemies." See Dt.28:16-64 for some of the curses God has in mind. 30:7

Moses tells the people that God will destroy all the inhabitants of the lands that they pass through. 31:3

When God gets mad -- watch out! He'll starve you to death, burn you with fire, and send vicious beasts to devour you. He'll "destroy both the young man and the virgin, the suckling also with the man of gray hairs." Not even the helpless and innocent are spared by this psychotic God. 32:21-26

God says, "To me belongeth vengeance, and recompense ... for the day of their destruction is at hand." 32:35

God says, "I kill ... I wound ... I will make my arrows drunk with blood, and my sword shall devour flesh." Someone should take his sword and arrows away, at least until he's feeling better. 32:39-43
Joshua

"And the city shall be accursed ... and all that therein, to the Lord: only Rahab the harlot shall live." God explains that Rahab is to be spared since she hid Joshua's spies and lied to those who were searching for them (2:4-5). But why was everyone else killed? Some of them were probably liars too. 6:17

"And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword." 6:21

After killing everyone, "they burnt the city with fire, and all that was therein." Only the valuables (silver, gold, brass, and iron) did they keep to "put into the treasury of the house of the Lord." 6:24

Joshua says that those who try to rebuild Jericho will be accursed by God, and will have to sacrifice both their oldest and their youngest sons in its construction. Well, Jericho still exists today, and is often considered to be the world's oldest, continuously occupied city. 6:26

God tells Joshua to kill whoever tood "the accursed thing." 7:10-12

If you happen to see "the accursed thing," don't touch it. If you do, you, your family, and all of your animals must be burned. 7:15

"And Joshua ... took Achan ... and his sons, and his daughters, and his oxen, and his sheep... And all of Israel stoned them with stones, and burned them with fire, after they had stoned them with stones." This is because Achan "took of the accursed thing" -- whatever that means. But why would God require that Achan's sons and daughters (and even his animals) be stoned to death along with him? The Bible doesn't say. But it does tell us that "the Lord turned from the fierceness of his anger" when Achan, his children, and his animals were stoned to death and their dead bodies burned. 7:24-26

"When ye have taken the city [Ai] ... ye shall set the city on fire: according to the commandment of the LORD. 8:8

Joshua and his army, per God's instructions, slaughter "all the inhabitants of Ai." 8:22-26

Joshua hangs the king of Ai on a tree until evening. 8:29

After Joshua kills all the inhabitants of Ai, burns their city, and hangs their king on a tree, he kills some animals and burns them as a "peace offering" to his warlike God. 8:31

God curses the Gibeonites to be slaves of the Jews forever. 9:21-27

God slaughters the Amorites and even chases them "along the way" as they try to escape. Then he sends down huge hailstones and kills even more of them. 10:10-11

In a divine type of daylight savings time, God makes the sun stand still so that Joshua can get all his killing done before dark. 10:12-13

God tells Joshua to "pursue after your enemies and smite the hindmost of them." (Kick their butts.) Don't let any of them escape "for the Lord your God hath delivered them into your hand." 10:19

Joshua tells his captains to "put your feet upon the necks of these kings." He says, "thus shall the Lord do to all of your enemies." Then Joshua kills the kings and hangs them on trees. 10:24-26

Joshua, at God's command, kills everyone and everything that he can find (including babies and little children)-- or, as the Bible puts it, he "utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the Lord commanded." 10:28-32

God delivers the Hazorites into Joshua's hand, and he knows just what to do with them: he smites them all with (you guessed it) the edge of the sword until "there was not any left to breathe." 11:6-17

"And Joshua did unto them as the LORD bade him: he houghed their horses." 11:9

"For it was of the Lord to harden their hearts, that they should come against Israel in battle, that he might destroy them utterly." Notice that God hardens their hearts so that he can have an excuse to kill them. 11:20

Caleb offers to give his daughter to whoever conquers the city of Debir. Caleb's nephew wins the contest and is given his cousin for a prize. 15:16-17

"Did not Achan son of Zerah commit a trespass in the accursed thing, and wrath fell on all the congregation of Israel?" To find out see Joshua 7:1-26. 22:20

God is jealous and will never forgive you for your sins. "He will turn and do you hurt, and consume you." 24:19-20
Judges

God appoints Judah to succeed Joshua. The Lord delivers his foes into his hands and another 10,000 are slain. In the process, they capture Adonibezek and "cut off his thumbs and great toes." Nice guys. 1:2-6

"They slew the Canaanites that inhabited Zephath, and utterly destroyed it ... And the Lord was with Judah." (You can tell by the number of innocent people he killed.) 1:17, 19

The Israelite spies killed everyone in Bethel, except for the man (and his family) who showed them how to enter the city. 1:25

Ehud delivers a "message from God" to the king of Moab. God's message consists of a knife thrust so deeply into the king's belly that it could not be extracted, "and the dirt came out." Just another lovely Bible story. 3:15-22

God "delivers" more folks into the hands of his chosen people. "And they slew of Moab ... about 10,000 men ... and their escaped not a man." 3:28-29

Shamgar kills 600 Philistines with an ox goad. Praise God. 3:31

"The Lord discomfited Sisera ... with the edge of the sword ... and there was not a man left." 4:15-16

Jael (our heroine) offers food and shelter to a traveler (Sisera, Jabin's captain), saying "turn in my Lord ... fear not." Then after giving him a glass of milk and tucking him in, she drives a tent stake through his head. "So God subdued on that day Jabin." 4:17-23

For murdering her guest while he slept, Jael is "blessed above women." (Hail Jael, full of grace, the Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou among women....?) 5:24-26

"So let all thine enemies perish, O Lord." (Let them all have their temples pierced by blessed women.) 5:31

When Gideon and his water-lapping companions blow their trumpets, God forces all the enemy soldiers to kill each other, killing 120,000. 7:22, 8:10

Two princes are killed and their heads are brought to Gideon. 7:25

For refusing to feed him and his army, Gideon tears the flesh off the elders of Succoth and kills the men of the city. 8:7, 16

Gideon orders his son to kill two kings, but he refuses. So Gideon has to do it himself since his son isn't "man" enough to do it. 8:20

Abimelech kills 69 brothers "upon one stone." (He was trying to get in the Guinness Book of World Records.) 9:5

God sends evil spirits that cause humans to deal treacherously with each other. 9:23-24

God smites Sihon and all his people and gives their land to Israel. 11:21

"Whomsoever the LORD our God shall drive out from before us, them will we [the Israelites] possess." 11:24

When "the spirit of the Lord" comes upon Jephthah, he makes a deal with God: If God will help him kill the Ammonites, then he (Jephthah) will offer to God as a burnt offering whatever comes out of his house to greet him. God keeps his end of the deal by providing Jephthah with "a very great slaughter." But when Jephthah returns, his nameless daughter comes out to greet him (who'd he expect, his wife?). Well, a deal's a deal, so he delivers her to God as a burnt offering -- after letting her spend a couple of months going up and down on the mountains bewailing her virginity. 11:29-39

42,000 men are killed because someone mispronounces "shibboleth." 12:6

Samson rips up a young lion when "the spirit of the Lord came mightily upon him." Later, when going to "take" his Philistine wife he notices a swarm of bees and honey in the lion's carcass (a Divine miracle -- or just rotting flesh and maggots?). 14:5-8

"And the spirit of the Lord came upon him [Samson], and he ... slew thirty men." (Samson might have been a decent person if he could have kept the spirit of the Lord off him.) 14:19

Samson catches 300 foxes, ties their tails together, and sets them on fire; the Philistines burn Samson's ex-wife and father-in-law; and Samson smites them "hip and thigh with a great slaughter." 15:4-8

"The spirit of the Lord came mightily upon" Samson and "he found a new jawbone of an ass ... and took it, and slew 1000 men therewith." 15:14-15

Samson, with God's help, kills himself and 3000 Philistine men and women by causing a roof to collapse, setting an example for Bible-based terrorism. 16:27-30

The Danites massacre the "quiet and secure" people of Laish. 18:27

After taking in a traveling Levite, the host offers his virgin daughter and his guest's concubine to a mob of perverts (who want to have sex with his guest). The mob refuses the daughter, but accepts the concubine and they "abuse her all night." The next morning she crawls back to the doorstep and dies. The Levite puts her dead body on an ass and takes her home. Then he chops her body up into twelve pieces and sends them to each of the twelve tribes of Israel 19:22-30

God tells the Israelites to send the tribe of Judah into battle and 22,000 men were killed by the Benjamites. 20:18, 21

God tells Phinehas to fight against the Benjamites, saying he will deliver them into his hand. So the Israelites kill some more people for God. 20:38-41

God tells them to go to battle again and another 18,000 are killed. 20:23, 25

God helps the Israelites kill 25,100 Benjamites. 20:35

The Israelites killed everyone in the city with the edge of the sword. 20:37

Another 25,000 Benjamites are killed by the God-assisted Israelites. 20:44, 46

The Israelites finish their massacre of the Benjamites by killing all the men, animals, and everything they could find in every Benjamite city. Then they burned the cities to the ground. (In this way God helped the Israelites make everything better after the rape and dismemberment of the concubine.) 20:48

To find wives for the Benjamites (they were unwilling to use their own daughters), the other tribes attacked and killed all occupants of a city except for the young virgins. These virgins were then given to the Benjamites for wives. 21:7-23
1 Samuel

"The Lord killeth ..." -- every chance he gets. 2:6, 2:25

"The adversaries of the Lord shall be broken to pieces; out of heaven shall he thunder upon them." If God doesn't like you, he'll send a thunderstorm your way to break your body into little pieces. 2:10

God will kill those who sin against him. 2:25

If you piss him off, God will cut off your arm, consume your eyes, grieve your heart, and kill your sons and grandfathers. 2:31-34

God will punish Eli's descendants forever for the sins of Eli's sons. 3:12-13

God smites the people of Ashdod with hemorrhoids "in their secret parts." 5:6-12

God kills 50,070 men for looking into the ark. "And the people lamented, because the Lord had smitten many of the people with a great slaughter." 6:19

"I make a covenant with your, that I may thrust out all your right eyes." Deals like this can only be found in the Bible. 11:2

"And the spirit of God came upon Saul ... and he took a yoke of oxen, and hewed them in pieces, and sent them throughout all the coast of Israel." People do the darnedest things when the spirit of God comes upon them! 11:6-7

"Saul ... slew the Ammorites unto the heat of the day." Then he took a little break. After all, killing is hard work. 11:11

God delivers the Philistines into Jonathan's hand. And his very "first slaughter ... was about twenty men." Not bad for a first slaughter. 14:12

Under God's influence, the Philistines killed each other. 14:20

But later, Saul and his army kill all of those who had not already been killed. 14:36

God orders Saul to kill all of the Amalekites: men, women, infants, sucklings, ox, sheep, camels, and asses. Why? Because God remembers what Amalek did hundreds of years ago. 15:2-3

Saul killed everyone but Agag (the king) and the best of the animals. But still God was furious with Saul for not killing everything as he had been told to do. He said, "it repenteth me that I have set Saul up to be king." 15:7-26

Saul is rebuked by Samuel for "doing evil in the sight of the Lord" by failing to kill all of the Amalekites. 15:18-19

Because Saul didn't kill everyone as God commanded, God changes his mind about him being king. 15:23-26

To please God, Samuel hacks Agag in pieces "before the Lord" [I bet God enjoyed that!] -- after Agag pleads with him saying, "surely the bitterness of death has past." 15:32-34

After God rejects Saul for refusing to kill indiscriminately, he sends Samuel to find another king. David is chosen and anointed by Samuel, and "the spirit of the Lord came upon him from that day forward." 16:13

The evil spirit from the Lord
"But the spirit of the Lord departed from Saul [since he was not murderous enough for God], and an evil spirit from the Lord troubled him." But if God is good, then how could he have an evil spirit? 16:14-16, 23

David kills Goliath with his sling, beheads him, and carries the head back to Jerusalem. 17:51-57

David and Saul have a contest to see who can kill the most people for God, and the women act as cheerleaders saying, "Saul has killed his thousands, and David his tens of thousands." 18:6-7, 21:11, 29:5

David kills 200 Philistines and brings their foreskins to Saul to buy his first wife (Saul's daughter Michal). Saul had only asked for 100 foreskins, but David was feeling generous. 18:25-27

"David went out, and fought with the Philistines, and slew them with a great slaughter." 19:8

Saul kills 85 priests of Nob and all men, women, children, and animals in the city of Nob. 22:18-19

"David inquired of the Lord, saying, Shall I go and smite these Philistines? And the Lord said unto David, Go, and smite the Philistines ... So David smote them with a great slaughter." 23:2-5

David vows to kill "any that pisseth against the wall." 25:22, 34

"And it came to pass about ten days after, that the Lord smote Nabal, that he died." This was convenient for David who then took his property and his wife, Abigail. 25:38

"And David smote the land and left neither man nor woman alive." (No wonder God liked David so much!) 27:8-11

Saul visits a woman with a "familiar spirit" and she brings Samuel back from the dead. Samuel once again explains that God is angry at Saul for not killing all of the Amalekites. He says God is going to deliver all of Israel into the hands of the Philistines. (Since Saul refused to slaughter innocent people, God will slaughter the Israelites. Fair is fair.) 28:8-19

David spends the day killing more of those pesky Amalekites. They are completely wiped out again. (See 1 Sam.15:7-8, 20 and 27:8-9 for the last two times that they were exterminated.) 30:17
2 Samuel

David tells one of his "young men" to kill the Amalekite messenger who claimed to have mercifully killed Saul at Saul's own request. 1:15

Joab and Abner watch as the young men "play" a cruel game. "And they caught every one his fellow by the head, and thrust his sword in his fellow side, so they fell down together." 2:14

Abner smites Asahel "under the fifth rib." 2:23
(It seems that in 2 Samuel this is the preferred place to get smitten. 3:27, 4:6, 20:10)

When Joab (David's captain) kills Abner (by smiting him under the fifth rib of course), David says that he and his kingdom are not responsible. The blame, he says, lays with Joab. So David curses Joab, his family, and their descendants forever. Let them all be plagued with venereal diseases and leprosy, starve to death, commit suicide, or lean on staves. (The Revised Standard Version translates "leaneth on a staff" as "holds a spindle," apparently meaning effeminate -- real men don't spin or weave.) 3:27-29

Some of David's men kill Saul's son (by smiting him under the fifth rib, of course) and bring his head to David, thinking that he'll be pleased. But he wasn't. David has the assassins killed, their hands and feet chopped off, and their bodies hung up (for decorations?) over the pool in Hebron. 4:6-7

Whoever kills the lame and the blind will be David's "chief and captain." 5:8

"David ... grew great, and the LORD God of hosts was with him." 5:10

David asks God if he should kill some more Philistines. God says yes, and he'll even help. So David and God "smote the Philistines" again. 5:19, 25

Uzzah tries to keep the ark from falling off the cart, and God kills him for it. I guess it was God's way of saying Thanks. 6:6-7

David kills two thirds of the Moabites and makes the rest slaves. He also cripples the captured horses. 8:2-4

"David slew of the Syrians two and twenty thousand men ... and the Lord preserved David withersoever he went." 8:5-6, 14

David tells Joab (his captain) to send Bathsheba's husband (Uriah) to "the forefront of the hottest battle ... that he may be smitten and die." In this way, David gets another wife. 11:15, 11:17, 11:27

To punish David for having Uriah killed, God kills Bathsheba's baby boy. 12:14-18

David saws, hacks, and burns to death all the inhabitants of several cities. Maybe this is what is meant by "the tender mercies of David" (Acts 13:34). 12:31

Absalom has his servants kill his brother for raping his sister. (This chapter, which includes incest, rape, murder, should be rated NC-17.) 13:28-29

Poor Absalom gets his head caught in an oak tree, and before he can get free, Joab thrusts three darts through his heart. 18:14

Amasa is viciously slaughtered by Joab, who "shed out his bowels to the ground ... And Amasa wallowed in blood in the midst of the highway." 20:10, 12

"And they cut off the head of Sheba ... and cast it out to Joab." 20:21-22

A famine is sent on David's kingdom for three years. When David asks God why, God answers: "It is for Saul, and his bloody house, because he slew the Gibeonites. "So God sent a famine to punish a kingdom for something that a former king had done. 21:1

To appease God and end the famine that was caused by his predecessor (Saul), David agrees to have seven of Saul's sons killed and hung up "unto the Lord." 21:6-9

"He teacheth my hands to war." Might as well learn from an expert. 22:35

"Thou hast also given me the necks of mine enemies." 22:41

The chief of David's captains killed with his own spear 800 guys at one time. 23:8

God offers David a choice of punishments for having conducted the census: 1) seven years of famine ( 1 Chr.21:1 says three years), 2) three months fleeing from enemies, or 3) three days of pestilence. David can't decide, so God chooses for him and sends a pestilence, killing 70,000 men (and probably around 200,000 women and children). 24:13
1 Kings

In David's last words, he commands his son Solomon to murder Joab. 2:1-9

Solomon has his brother (Adonijah) murdered. 2:24-25

Solomon carries out the deathbed instructions of his father David by having Joab murdered. 2:29-34

Solomon justifies the murder of Joab by saying that Joab also was a murderer, and that the blood of Joab's victims "shall therefore return upon the head of Joab, and upon the head of his seed for ever." 2:33

But Solomon is not done murdering yet. He has Shimei murdered -- or as Solomon put it, "The Lord shall return thy wickedness upon thine own head." 2:44, 46

When the ark of the covenant was brought into the temple, Solomon killed more animals than could be numbered. 8:5

When dedicating the temple, Solomon kills 22,000 oxen and 120,000 sheep. All this blood and gore must have made God very happy. 8:63

Joab (David's captain) spent six months killing every male in Edom. 11:16

King Josiah is prophesied to sacrifice the priests of the "high places" on their altars. And he does so in 2 Kg.23:20. Note that this is a guy who "did what was right in the eyes of the Lord" (2 Kg.22:2). 13:2

Ever the playful spirit, God withers, and then restores, the hand of king Jeroboam. 13:4

There were these two prophets. The first prophet lied to the second. To the punish the second for believing the first's lie, God sends a lion to kill him. Get it? 13:11-24

God promises to "bring evil upon the house of Jerobaom," saying he will "cut off" anyone "that pisseth against the wall." Then, after he is done with them, their dead bodies will be eaten by dogs (if they are city dwellers) or fowls (if they are country folk). 14:10-12

Baasha kills "all of the house of Jeroboam" leaving none "to breath." This slaughter was done "according to the word of the Lord." 15:29

God says that "him that dieth of Baasha in the city shall the dogs eat; and him that dieth of his in the fields shall the fowls of the air eat." 16:4

Zimri kills everyone "that pisseth against a wall ... according to the word of the Lord." 16:11-12

When Hiel rebuilds Jericho, he lays the foundation with the body of his oldest son and sets up the gates with his youngest son's body "according to the word of the Lord." 16:34

Elijah kills 450 prophets of Baal. 18:22, 40

God delivers the Syrians into the Israelites hands, and 100,000 were killed in one day. Of those that escaped, 27,000 were crushed by a falling wall. 20:28-30

There was this son of a prophet that said to his neighbor, "kill me." But the neighbor refused. So God sent a lion to devour him. 20:35

The prophet tells king Ahab that he, and his people, shall be punished for releasing Ben-hadad: "Your life shall go for his life, and your people for his people." 20:42

Although Naboth was set up here by Jezebel to steal his land, the text assumes that the proper punishment for "blaspheming God and the king" is death by stoning. 21:10-13

"Thus saith the Lord, in the place where dogs licked the blood of Naboth shall dogs lick thy blood, even thine." 21:19

God will "bring evil upon" Ahab and "cut off" all those "that pisseth against the wall." 21:21

Jezebel (Ahab's "strange" wife) "stirred up" Ahab to "work wickedness in the sight of the Lord." To punish her, God will feed her dead body to the dogs. (He also plans to feed the city folk to the dogs and country folks to the birds.) 21:23-25

Jehoshaphat "did that which was right in the eyes of the Lord" and "took" the homosexuals (sodomites) "out of the land," or as the RSV says, "he exterminated" them. 22:43, 46
2 Kings

Ahaziah was sick and sent messengers to Baalzebub to ask if he would recover. God was jealous of the attention given to his competitor and tells Ahaziah that he will die for asking the wrong god. 1:4, 17

Elijah shows that he is "a man of God" by burning 102 men to death. 1:9-12

God sends two bears to rip up 42 little children for making fun of Elisha's bald head. 2:23-24

God instructs the Israelites, through the prophet Elisha, to implement a scorched earth policy on the Moabites. "Strike every fortified city and every choice city, and fell every good tree and stop all springs of water, and mar every good piece of land with stones." 3:19-25

In a desperate attempt to halt the slaughter of his people by the Israelites, the king of Moab sacrifices his oldest son as a burnt offering. And it seems to have worked! 3:27

Elisha not only can cure leprosy, he can also dish it out. Here he makes his servant (Gehazi) and all his descendants lepers forever. 5:27

"So we boiled my son, and did eat him." Women killed, boiled and ate their own children because of a plague that God sent, or as the Bible puts it: "Behold, this evil is of the Lord." 6:28-29, 33

A man is trampled to death for disbelieving Elisha. 7:17-20

God sends a famine on the people that lasts for seven years. 8:1

God says that the "whole house of Ahab shall perish," and that he "will cut off from Ahab him that pisseth against the wall." 9:8

"And the dogs shall eat Jezebel ... and there shall be none to bury her." 9:10

Jehu shoots an arrow right through poor old Jehoram's heart. 9:24

God has Jezebel thrown off a wall. Her blood is sprinkled on the wall and on the horses, by which she is trampled. Her body is eaten by dogs and all that remains of it is her hands, feet, and skull. God says that she "shall be as dung upon the face of the field." 9:33-37

All seventy of king Ahab's sons are killed, their heads put in baskets, and sent to Jezreel. He says, "Lay ye them in two heaps ..." 10:7-8

Jehu kills all that remained of king Ahab's family. 10:11

Jehu captures and then murders 42 men. 10:14

Jehu shows off his zeal for the Lord by murdering "all that remained unto Ahab in Samaria, till he had destroyed him according to the word of the Lord." 10:16-17

Jehu lied to the followers of Baal so that he could trap and kill them. 10:19

Jehu warns his guards saying, "If any of the men escape, he that letteth him go, his life shall be for the life of him." 10:24

Jehu, when he finishes his animal sacrifices, orders his men to "Go in, and slay them, let none come forth. And they smote them with the edge of the sword." 10:25

God is greatly pleased with all of Jehu's killings, saying "because thou hast done well in executing that which is right in mine eyes, and hast done unto the house of Ahab according to all that was in mine heart [Jehu murdered them all], thy children of the fourth generation shall sit on the throne of Israel." 10:30

Jehu captures and then murders 42 men. 10:42

When Athaliah "saw that her son was dead, she arose and destroyed all of the seed royal." 11:1

The priest has Athaliah and her followers killed. 11:15-16

The "Lord's people" destroyed the "house of Baal" and killed "the priest of Baal before the altars." 11:17-18

Amaziah "did that which was right in the sight of the Lord" and killed ten thousand Edomites. 14:3, 7

God strikes king Azariah with leprosy "unto the day of his death" for not removing the high places. 15:5

King Menahem rips up all the pregnant women in Tizzah "because they opened not to him." Does God approve of such acts? It's impossible to tell from this passage; the mass murder is simply reported without editorial comment. 15:16

God sent lions to devour the foreigners in Samaria because "they feared not the Lord," and even worse "they knew not the manner of the God of the land." Well that'll teach them about God's manners. 17:25-26

An "angel of the Lord" kills 185,000 men while they sleep. "And when they arose early in the morning, behold, they were all dead corpses." I guess they all woke up and said, "Shucks, I'm dead." 19:35

Josiah, apparently with God's approval, kills "all the priests of the high places" and sacrifices them to God on their altars. Note that this is a guy who "did what was right in the eyes of the Lord" (2 Kg.22:2). 23:20

Even though Josiah did all that God asked of him, God still punished him and all Jerusalem for the acts of his grandfather. 23:26
1 Chronicles

God killed Er for being "evil in the sight of the Lord." 2:3

The sons of Reuben made war with the Hagarites and "there fell down many slain, because the war was from God." They did pretty well for themselves, too, in God's war, taking 250,000 sheep and 100,000 slaves. 5:18-22

But the Israelites "transgressed against the God of their fathers, and went a whoring after the gods of the people of the land, whom God destroyed before them." So God inspired the Assyrians to go to war with the Israelites. 5:25-26

Saul died for refusing God's order to kill all of the Amalekites (15:2-3, 18-19) and for consulting a witch (1 Sam.28:8-19). 10:13-14

The chief of David's captains killed with his own spear 300 guys at one time. 11:11

God kills Uzza for trying to keep the ark from falling. 13:9-10

David kills 7000 men in chariots and 40,000 footmen. 19:18

David's army "wastes the children of Ammon ... besieged Rabbah ... and destroyed it." 20:1

David tortures all the inhabitants of several cities "with saws, and with harrows of iron, and with axes." 20:3

God kills 70,000 men because David had a census. 21:7
2 Chronicles

Solomon, when dedicating the temple, killed 22,000 oxen and 120,000 sheep. All the blood, guts, pain, and suffering must have made God very happy. 7:5

God kills the king of Israel and helps Abijah kill 500,000 Israelites. "The children of Judah prevailed, because they relied upon the Lord God of their fathers." (That is, they had God on their side.) 13:15-20

In the largest single God-assisted massacre in the bible, Asa, with God's help, kills one million Ethiopians. 14:8-14

"Nation was destroyed of nation, and city of city: for God did vex them with all adversity." 15:6

Whoever that does not seek the God of Israel should be executed. 15:13

God inspired Jehoram's enemies to steal his wives and children. Then he made Jehoram so sick that his bowels fell out. 21:14-19

Only Levites can enter "the house of the Lord". "Whosoever else cometh into the house, he shall be put to death." 23:6-7

God told Jehu to kill everyone in the house of Ahab (and then later condemned him for it (Hosea 1:4)). 22:7-9

The priest (Jehoiada) tells the people to kill Athaliah and her followers. So they find her and kill her. "And all the people of the land rejoiced: and the city was quiet, after that they had slain Athaliah with the sword." (Don't you just love happy endings?) 23:14-15, 21

"Then all the people went to the house of Baal" and broke its altar into pieces and killed Mattan the priest of Baal. 23:17

Amaziah (who "did that which was right in the sight of the Lord") killed 10,000 people; another 10,000 he left alive to throw off a cliff "that they all were broken in pieces." 25:1-2, 11-12

God makes Uzziah a leper for burning incense without a license. 26:19-21

Pekah killed 120,000 people in one day and enslaves 200,000 women and children "because they had forsaken the Lord God of their fathers." 28:6, 8

The priests kill bullocks, rams, and lambs. The blood of the dead animals is then sprinkled on the altars. 29:22, 24

God sent an angel to kill the Assyrian army. (According to 2 Kg.19:35 the angel killed 185,000 sleeping soldiers who woke the next morning to discover that they were dead.) 32:21

God vows to "bring evil upon this place ... even all the curses that are written in the book." He says his "wrath shall be poured out upon this place, and shall not be quenched." 34:24-25, 28

God gets angry with his people, so he sends the king of the Chaldees to kill all the "young men with the sword." He has compassion for no one, not even old men that are "stooped for age." In his tender mercy and loving kindness he has them all slaughtered. 36:16-17
Esther

Esther has two men "hanged on a tree." 2:22-23

Esther has another man (Haman) hung. 7:6, 10

Esther suggests that the ten sons of Haman should also be hanged. So "they hanged Haman's ten sons. 9:13-14

The Jews kill 75,000. 9:16
Job

To start off God and Satan's gruesome game, Job's slaves and animals are killed. 1:14-17

God (or Satan -- it's hard to tell them apart) sends a wind that kills Job's sons and daughters. 1:18-19

"So went Satan forth from the presence of the LORD, and smote Job with sore boils from the sole of his foot unto his crown." 2:7

Because of God's cruel wager with Satan, Job curses the day he was born. 3:1-3, 11

God terrorizes people with arrows and poison. 6:4

God terrifies people by sending them nightmares while they sleep. 7:14

Speaking of God, Job says: "He teareth me in his wrath, who hateth me: he gnasheth upon me with his teeth." 16:9
Psalms

If you ask God, he'll force heathens to be your slaves and help you "dash them in pieces." 2:8-9

God has smitten his "enemies upon the cheek bone" and has "broken the teeth of the ungodly." 3:7

Kiss the Son or God will get angry and might have to kill you. 2:12

Christians often say that one should love the sinner but hate the sin. Perhaps, but God hates sinners and plans to destroy them. 5:5-6

God has prepared deadly weapons (swords, bows, etc.) and plans to use them. 7:11-13

If you pray to God, he will kill your enemies for you. 9:3-6

God will rain fire and brimstone on "wicked" folks. 11:6

The God of peace teaches us how to kill our neighbors in war. 18:34

If you make God angry, he'll burn you and your children to death. 21:9-10

God will shoot his adversaries in the back with his arrows. 21:12

A sweet prayer for the destruction of one's enemies: Let their way be dark and slippery: and let the angel of the LORD persecute them.... Let destruction come upon him at unawares." 35:6,8

God laughs at those that he will later torment. 37:13

If you forget God, God will tear you into pieces. 50:22

If you don't trust in God, he'll kill you and while you're dying the "righteous" will laugh at you. 52:5-7

Referring to his enemies, the psalmist says: "Let death seize upon them, and let them go down quick into hell." 55:15

The psalmist devoutly prays: "Break their teeth, O God, in their mouth ... let them be cut in pieces." 58:6-7

The psalmist asks God to kill all "the heathen" and not show them any mercy. 59:5

God will laugh at the heathen as he kills them. 59:8

"The righteous" will rejoice when he sees "the wicked" being dismembered by God. He'll even get a chance to wash his feet in their blood. Now that's entertainment! 58:10

"The God of mercy" will let the psalmist see his enemies tormented. 59:10

"Consume them in thy wrath, consume them." -- more sweet prayers to a savage god. 59:13

God will "wound the head of his enemies" so that the righteous can wash their feet "in the blood of thine enemies, and the tongue of thy dogs in the same." 68:21, 23

The psalmist prays that his enemies be tormented and blinded by God. He asks God to "make their loins continually to shake." 69:23-28

"The LORD heard this" (he had his hearing aid on) and became angry, and burned people "because they believed not in God." 78:21-22

"The wrath of God came upon them" and God killed many of the Israelites for not believing in "his wondrous works." 78:31-34

The psalmist asks God to " do unto them as unto the Midianites ... which became as dung for the earth." 83:9-18

If you don't follow God's commandments, he will beat you with a rod. 89:31-32

"I will ... destroy all the wicked of the land." 101:8

God gives the lions their meat. The cruelty and brutality of nature are all part of God's plan. 104:21

The psalmist recounts God's treatment of the Egyptians: "He smote the firstborn in their land." See Ex.12:29-30 for the gory details. 105:29-36

God is praised for the creative ways that he kills people: drowning, earth-swallowing, burning, etc. 106:11-19

God sent a plague on the Israelites for "committing *****dom with the daughters of Moab." But "then stood up Phinehas, and executed judgment [by throwing a spear through a newly married couple]: and so the plague was stayed." But not before 24,000 (1 Cor.10:8 says 23,000) had died. (See Num.25:6-9 for all the gory details.) 106:29-30

The psalmist asks God to do all sorts of unpleasant things to his enemies. "Set thou a wicked man over him; and let Satan stand at his right hand .... Let his prayer become sin." He asks God to take away his possessions, kill him, and have his children suffer for the sins of their fathers. 109:6-14

God will "fill the places with dead bodies" of heathens. 110:6

God is praised for slaughtering kings, nations, and little babies. 135:8, 10

"To him that smote Egypt in their first born: for his mercy endures forever." 136:10

God "overthrew Pharaoh and his host in the Red sea: for his mercy endureth for ever." 136:15

God "smote great kings: for his mercy endureth for ever." 136:17-18

"Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones." 137:9

The psalmist excels at hating. He hates people with a "perfect hatred" and asks God to kill them. 139:19-22

A prayer that God will burn people to death. 140:10

The God of Peace teaches us to kill each other in war. 144:1

he saints praise God while they kill and enslave "the heathen." 149:5-8
Proverbs

Beating your children with a rod is a sure sign of parental love. 13:24

God made bad people for the pleasure of punishing them. 16:4

Fools are meant to be beaten. 18:6

Beat your children and don't stop just because they cry. 19:18

Scorners (skeptics?) should be condemned; fools should be beaten. 19:29

"The blueness of a wound cleanseth away evil: so do stripes the inward parts of the belly." 20:30

"The wicked shall be a ransom for the righteous." 21:18

Beating your children will make them less foolish. Have you beaten your child today? 22:15

Beat your children hard and often. Don't worry about hurting them. You may break a few bones and cause some brain damage, but it isn't going to kill them. And even if they do die, they'll be better off. They'll thank you in heaven for beating the hell out of them. 23:13-14

Whip horses and strike the backs of foolish people with rods. 26:3

Beating your children will make them wise. 29:15

Beat your servants (slaves), as though they were your children. 29:19

If you mock your father or disobey your mother, the ravens will pick out your eyeballs and the eagles will eat them. 30:17

"The wringing of the nose bringeth forth blood." 30:33
Isaiah

"And ... instead of a sweet smell there shall be stink," with people suffering from baldness and burnings, and the men killed with swords. 3:24-25

After God "washed away the filth" from the women and killed the men, he set up "a cloud and smoke by day" and a "flaming fire by night." 4:4-5

God will kill those who despise his word and fail to follow his laws. Their carcasses will be "torn in the midst of the streets." 5:24-25

If you associate or gird yourself, God will break you in pieces. 8:9

God will have no mercy on the widows and children of hypocrites. 9:17

God will make every man kill his brother and then force him to eat "the flesh of his own arm." 9:19-20

God will "smite the earth with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips he shall slay the wicked." 11:4

"I have commanded my sanctified ones ... to destroy the whole land." God has his holy ones do his dirty work for him. 13:3-5

On God's day he will kill sinners with great anger, wrath, and cruelty. Those who die will have their faces consumed by flames. 13:6-9

If God can find you, he will "thrust you through," smash your children "to pieces" before your eyes, and rape your wife. He will have no mercy, but will even kill your little children. 13:15-18

God will slaughter children "for the iniquity of their fathers." 14:21

After God destroys Moab, the rivers will be red with blood. He will send lions to eat any survivors. 15:9

The God of Peace will set brother against brother and kingdom against kingdom. Then he'll make the survivors seed the counsel of "wizards," and subject them to a "cruel lord." 19:2-4

The Apocalypse of Isaiah: God will destroy the earth, burning everyone and every living thing alive (except maybe a few men). 24:1-6

"And the people shall ... be burned in the fire." 33:12

God is furious at everyone and is ready to kill them all. Or as Isaiah so delicately puts it: "Their stink shall come up out of their carcasses, and the mountains shall be melted with their blood." 34:2-3

God's sword "will be bathed in heaven." Sounds like a place to stay away from. 34:5

God's sword is "filled with blood," and he fully intends to use it. He'll kill so many people with it that the "land shall be soaked with blood." 34:6-8

An angel of God kills 185,000 men. "And when they [those killed by the angel?] arose early in the morning, behold, they were all dead men." 37:36

God will "go forth as a mighty man" who cries and roars, and "will cry like a travailing woman." After he tires of roaring and crying he'll "destroy and devour." What a guy. 42:13

God makes Egypt, Ethiopia, and Seba pay for Israel's sins. He says that he likes Israel better than any other country so he's willing to sacrifice other countries for the Israel's sake. 43:3-4

No astrologer, stargazer, or prognosticator will be able to save those that God plans to burn to death. 47:13-14

God "will do his pleasure on Babylon." (He will mercilessly slaughter the Babylonians.) 48:14

"I will feed them that oppress thee with their own flesh; and they shall be drunken with their own blood, as with sweet wine." 49:26

"The heavens shall vanish away like smoke, and the earth shall wax old like a garment, and they that dwell therein shall die in like manner." (God plans to destroy the universe.) 51:6

"I will ... trample them in my fury; and their blood ... will stain all my raiment." (God's clothes will get stained with the blood of humans.) 63:2-6

"God's servants" will eat, drink, and be merry; everyone else will be hungry, thirsty, and ashamed -- until God kills them, that is. 65:13-16

God will "plead with all flesh" with fire and sword, "and the slain of the Lord shall be many." 66:16

The carcasses of those killed by God will be piled high. They will rot and burn forever. And although their stench will be revolting to humans, it will be a sweet savour unto the Lord. 66:24
Jeremiah

God tries to "correct" people by killing their children. 2:30

Circumcise the foreskin of your heart or God will burn you to death. 4:4

God will bring evil to entire cities, destroying them and wipe out all of their inhabitants. 4:6-7

What was once fruitful is now barren. Birds have fled, people are gone, towns are in ruins. All "by his (God's) fierce anger." 4:25-26

God sends plagues and violence to correct people. 5:3

God will send lions and leopards to tear people into little bitty pieces. 5:6

God will kill those who believe and preach the wrong doctrines. 5:12-13

God again talks of bringing a foreign nation to destroy his chosen ones and their lands. 5:15-17

"I am full of the fury of the Lord; I am weary of holding it in." He's anxious to "pour it out" on children, young men, husbands, wives, and old people. 6:11-12

God threatens to punish the men by taking away all of their property, including their wives, and giving them to others. 6:12

God plans to kill pretty much everyone: fathers and sons, family, friends, and neighbors. God plans to kill them all after laying a stumbling block before them. 6:21

God will send soldiers from the north that will kill everyone and have no mercy. 6:22-23

God will pour out his anger on both man and beast. Not even the trees will be spared from his wrath. And the ground itself will burn forever. 7:20

God will feed the people to the birds and the beasts, "and none shall fray them away." 7:33

God will cover the earth with dead bodies that will not be buried. "They shall be for dung upon the face of the earth." 8:2

People will choose to kill themselves, rather than be killed by their vicious God. 8:3

God will give the people bad food and water, and then kill them with a sword. 9:15-16

God will kill children and young men, and the dead bodies "shall fall as dung .... and none shall gather them." 9:21-22

"Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will punish all them which are circumcised with the uncircumcised." I guess that'd include just about everyone -- well, all the men anyway. 9:25-26

Jeremiah prays for the destruction of people and families that don't call on God's name. 10:25

God "will bring evil upon" people from which they will not be able to escape. And if they cry out to him for help, he will not help them. 11:11

God forbids others from praying for his victims. Such prayers would go unanswered anyway, he says, because he "will not hear them in their time of trouble." 11:14

God will punish the people by killing their young men in war and starving their children to death. 11:22

Jeremiah asks God to drag away his enemies like "sheep for the slaughter." 12:3

God delivered his people "into the hand of her enemies." He "hates" his "dearly beloved" people and plans to feed them to the birds. 12:7-9

God's sword will "devour" everyone until "no flesh shall have peace." 12:12

If any nation does not listen to God, he "will utterly pluck up and destroy that nation." 12:17

God plans to make everyone in the kingdom drunk and then "dash the fathers and the sons together." The merciful God of Peace vows to "not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them." 13:13-14

God tells Jeremiah not to pray for the people. God has decided to kill them all and he doesn't want to be talked out of it. 14:11

God will ignore the peoples' prayers, and kill them all with war, starvation, and disease. 14:12

God will destroy by famine and sword those who are misled by the prophets, as well as the prophets themselves. 14:15-16

God tells Jeremiah not to bother praying for the people. Even if Moses and Samuel (and Jesus?) were to ask him to reconsider, he wouldn't. He's going to kill everybody and nobody can stop him! 15:1

God plans to do four things to his people: 1) kill them with swords, 2) tear their flesh with dogs, 3) have the birds, and 4) the beasts eat their bodies. Why will he do these terrible things? Because of something some former king did. 15:2-4

God again threatens Jerusalem with mass destruction. Here are some of the highlights: He will kill children, make more widows than there are grains of sand, terrorize cities, and then kill the survivors. 15:7-9

God will have you enslaved and, if you make him mad enough, he will burn you to death. 15:14

God tells Jeremiah not to get married or have children, because he's going to kill everyone (mothers and daughters, fathers and sons). They all "shall die of grievous deaths," and that shall neither "be lamented" nor buried, but "shall be as dung upon the face of the earth." For he has removed peace, "lovingkindness," and mercy from the people. 16:1-7

God will kill children if their parents worship other gods. 16:10-11

If you don't honor the Sabbath, God will burn you to death unquenchable fire. 17:27

God admits that he does evil things to people. 18:11

Jeremiah asks God to kill the young men in war and the children by starvation. 18:21

God will do so much evil to the people that whoever hears of it will have their ears tingle. 19:3

God will make parents eat their own children, "and they shall eat everyone the flesh of his friend." 19:7-9

God will break those who worship other gods as though they were made of clay, killing so many that there will not be enough room to bury them all. 19:11-13

"For thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will make thee a terror to thyself, and to all thy friends: and they shall fall by the sword of their enemies, and thine eyes shall behold it." 20:4

God himself will fight and kill everyone in fury "with an outstretched hand and with a strong arm." 21:5

"I will smite the inhabitants of this city, both man and beast: they shall die of a great pestilence." 21:6

God will deliver Zedekiah and those that survive the famine, disease, and war into Nebuchadrezzar's hand, and "he shall smite them with the edge of the sword; he shall not spare them, neither have pity, nor have mercy. 21:7

God tells the Judeans to either surrender to the Babylonians and become their slaves or die. "Behold, I am against thee." No kidding. 21:9-13

God will have Jeconiah's enemies kill him and his mother and then ensure that he die without leaving any sons. 22:25-30

God promises to kill everyone by war, starvation, and disease. 24:10

God will force "all the kingdoms of the world" to drink "and be drunken". Then he'll kill "all the inhabitants of the earth" with a sword. 25:26-29

God will kill so many people that the entire earth will be covered with their dead bodies. No one is to mourn them or even bury them; "they shall be dung upon the ground." 25:31-33

God will destroy "the peaceable habitations" and make the land desolate "because of his fierce anger." 25:37-38

Anyone who disobeys King Nebuchadnezzar will be punished "with the sword, and with the famine, and with the pestilence, until I have consumed them by his hand." 27:8

God kills Hananiah for prophesying falsely. 28:15-17

God will send his usual blessings upon his people: "the sword, the famine, and the pestilence." He "will make them like vile figs, that cannot be eaten, they are so evil." 29:17-18

God will kill those who refuse listen to his prophets. 29:19

God will deliver Ahab and Zedekiah into the hands of Nebuchadrezzar "and he shall slay them before your eyes" and Ahab will be "roasted in the fire." 29:21-22

God will punish the children of Shemaiah for their father's false prophecy. 29:32

God litters the ground "with the dead bodies of men" that he has killed in his anger and fury. 33:5

God threatens again to send his people the sword, pestilence, and famine, saying he'll feed their dead bodies to the fowls and beasts of the earth. 34:17-20

All those who move to Egypt will die by the sword, famine, or pestilence. None "shall escape from the evil" that comes directly from God. 42:15-18, 22

When God pours forth his fury and his anger, entire cities are destroyed. 44:6

God's not finished with Judah. He will bring more evil upon them. Even those Jews that flee to Egypt will not be spared. God will hunt them down and kill them all with war, famine, and disease. 44:11-13

"I will watch over them for evil, and not for good." 44:27

God says he will bring evil upon all flesh. 45:5

The day of the Lord will be "a day of vengeance." On that day God's sword will become drunk with blood. 46:10

God plans to drown the Philistines in a flood, and "all the men shall cry, and all the inhabitants of the land shall howl." 47:2

God plans to kill just about everybody. "No city shall escape." 48:8

"Cursed by he that keepeth back his sword from blood." 48:10

God will destroy everyone in Moab. Fire will burn their heads, and their sons and daughters will be taken captive. 48:42-47

God will cause the daughters of Rabbah to be burned with fire. 49:2

God will send such marvelous plagues on Edom that everyone will hiss in astonishment. 49:17

God plans to "bring evil upon" the people of Elam. He says he'll kill them all with a sword. 49:37

God says to do the usual thing to the inhabitants of "the land of Merathaim": kill them all. 50:21

God commands that all Babylonian bullocks be slaughtered, that archers shoot all Babylonians, and that all their men be killed in war. 50:27-30

God, the pyromaniac, will personally set the fires that will burn to death the inhabitants of entire cities. 50:32

God plans to kill all the Babylonian horses, and to make the Babylonian men "become like women." (A fate worse than death to a misogynous god.). 50:37

God wants us to be his "battle axe and weapons of war" to "break in pieces the nations" and "destroy kingdoms." 51:20

God will "break in pieces" nations and kingdoms, horse and rider, man and woman, old and young, young man and maid, the shepherd and his flock, husbandman and his yoke of oxen, captain and kings. It seems that God intends to break us all into pieces. 51:21-23

God will get the Babylonians drunk and then kill them all, leading them "like lambs to the slaughter." 51:39-40
Lamentations

God tramples "as in a winepress" mighty men, young men, and virgins. 1:15-16

"The Lord Was an enemy." 2:4-8

God mercilessly kills everyone, young and old. He even causes women to eat their children. 2:20-22

God is like a bear or a lion who secretly pursues you and then tears you apart. 3:10-11

"Give them sorrow of heart, thy curse unto them. Persecute and destroy them in anger." 3:63-64

God punishes the Israelites by starving their children to death. 4:4-9

God "accomplishes his fury" by making women eat their children. 4:10-11
Ezekiel

If a good person does something wrong after God "lays a stumbling block before him," then God will kill him. "He shall die in his sin" and whatever good he has done will be forgotten. 3:20

God will cause the fathers to eat their sons and the sons to eat their fathers. 5:10

God will slaughter everyone by killing one third with plagues, one third with famines, and one third with wars. If any somehow survive, he'll send "evil beasts" to devour them. Finally, after he's done killing, he "will be comforted." 5:11-17

God will decorate the land with the bones and dead bodies of those who worship a different god. 6:4-5

God makes his presence known by killing people with famine, disease, and war. 6:7-14

God will pour out his fury on everyone, with pity toward none. By so doing he says that "ye shall know that I am the Lord that smiteth." Indeed, who would else would behave so viciously? 7:3-9

God's is mad at everyone and no one will escape his wrath. He'll kill them all with war, disease, and starvation. "Horror shall cover them" and "they shall know that I am the Lord." 7:14-28

God promises again to slaughter everyone. He says that he will ignore them when they plead with him for mercy. 8:18

God sends a "man clothed with linen" to mark the foreheads of the men who will be saved. Apparently only men are considered good enough to keep, the others (unmarked men, "maids", little children, and women) are to be slaughtered. God says he'll "fill the courts with the slain" and will have pity on no one. 9:4-10

When you fall by the sword, you'll know that he is the Lord. 11:8-12

When God kills everyone in the city, then you'll know that he is the Lord. (Who else would be so cruel?) 12:15-16, 20

God gets mad at a wall and destroys it, along with those who worked on it. 13:14-15

God again vows to destroy those that dare worship something or someone other than him. 14:6-8

God deceives some of his prophets and then kills them for believing his lies. 14:9

When really bad things happen (like you get eaten by wild beasts, get killed in war, get sick and die, etc.), then you'll know that it was God that did it to you. 14:13, 15, 19, 21

God will burn the inhabitants of Jerusalem to show everyone that he is the Lord. 15:6-7

For being such a *****, God punished Jerusalem by starving the Israelites and handing them over to the Philistines. 16:17

After exposing her nakedness, God will give her "blood in fury and jealousy" and strip her naked once more. 16:38-41

God gave the Israelites "statutes that were not good and judgments whereby they should not live." He "polluted" them so that he "might make them desolate" and force them to kill and sacrifice their children "that they might know" that he is the Lord. 20:25-26

God will set a fire in the southern kingdom that will devour everything and burn everyone. "And all flesh shall see that I the LORD have kindled it." 20:47-48

God will kill everyone -- good and bad, just and unjust. 21:3-4

God describes the various ways that he will kill people. 21:8-32

"Thou shalt be for fuel to the fire; thy blood shall be in the midst of the land ... for I the LORD have spoken it." 21:32

God will gather all of Israel and consume them in the fires of his anger. 22:20-22

God couldn't find anyone to stand up to him, so he's going to destroy everyone. 22:30-31

Two sisters were guilty of "committing *****doms" by pressing their breasts and bruising "the teats of their virginity." As a punishment, one sister's nakedness was discovered, her children were taken from her, and she was killed by the sword. And the fate of the surviving sister was even worse: Her nose and ears were cut off, she was made to "pluck off" her own breasts, and then after being raped and mutilated, she is stoned to death. 23:1-49

God gets all excited about cooking with "scum" and human flesh, saying "kindle the fire, consume the flesh, and spice it well, and let the bones be burned." 24:3-14

God kills Ezekiel's wife and then tells him not to mourn her. 24:15-18

God will kill everyone that claps his hands or stamps his feet "against the land of Israel." When he's done with the killing everyone will know that he is the Lord. 25:6-17

God says he will destroy Tyrus. He plans to kill everyone, but he is especially looking forward to killing all of the women. "And her daughters which are in the field shall be slain by the sword; and they shall know that I am the LORD." 26:1-21

Now God has singled out the king of Tyre for his tirades. 28:7-10, 18-19

Watch out or God will make you "die the deaths of the uncircumcised," which is, no doubt, a most unpleasant death. 28:10

God says that Zidon will know that he is the Lord when he sends "pestilence and blood into her streets." 28:22-23

God tells Ezekiel to prophesy against the pharaoh and against all Egypt. God says he will feed the Egyptians to the birds and beasts. 29:2-5

God makes "all their loins to be at a stand." When this is achieved, God will get out his sword and "cut off man and beast out of thee." Ouch! 29:7-9

God will punish Egypt and her allies by sending Nebuchadrezzar to "fill the land with the slain." Then he will make "the rivers dry," sell the land to "the wicked," make "the land waste," light fires, and kill all their young men with the sword. 30:4-26

"And they shall know that I am the LORD, when I have set a fire in Egypt." (The Divine Pyromaniac) 30:8, 30:14, 30:16

God will treat Pharaoh like a whale fished out of the sea. Every bird and beast in the world will feed upon him. 32:3-6

God will vex the hearts of many people, destroy entire nations, brandish his sword, kill animals, and cause floods. In this way people will come to know him (just before he kills them?). 32:9-15

God takes a break from killing people while he kills all the animals in Egypt. 32:13

Pharaoh and all his multitude, along with the uncircumcised, will be killed with the sword. 32:20-32

If a "righteous" person does something wrong, God will forget every good thing that that person has ever done. Then God will kill him for the single mistake. 33:13

God plans some more killing by the sword, beasts, and the pestilence. 33:27-29

God will kill everyone in the cities, "and thou shalt know that I am the LORD." 35:3-4

"And I will fill his mountains with his slain men, and ye shalt know that I am the LORD." 35:6-9

God will return their own anger and hatred upon them, "and they shall know that I am the LORD." 35:11-15

Someday the God of Peace will start a war between Gog and Israel. 38:16

God will cause each man's sword to be against his brother; he will send disease and make it rain fire and brimstone. He says that by doing this he'll magnify and sanctify himself and let everyone know that he is the Lord. 38:21-23

God will have birds and beasts eat human flesh and drink human blood until they are full and drunken. 39:4, 17-20, 28

God "will send a fire on Magog ... and the heathen shall know that I am the Lord." 39:6-7

God hid his face from the Israelites, refusing to hear their prayers, while giving "them into the hand of their enemies: so fell they all by the sword." 39:23-24
Daniel

Nebuchadnezzar, after first trying to burn to death the three Hebrews, now decrees that everyone who says anything against the Hebrew god "shall be cut in pieces, and their houses shall be made a dunghill." 3:29

King Darius, after trying to feed Daniel to the lions, orders those who accused Daniel (and their wives and children) to be cast into the lion den. "And the lions ... brake all their bones in pieces." 6:24
Hosea

God (or Hosea?) tells his children that their mother is a ***** who is not his wife. He asks them to tell their mother to "put away her *****doms" and "her adulteries from between her breasts" or he'll "strip her naked ... and slay her with thirst." 2:2-3

God will tear up Ephraim like a lion so that "in their affliction they will seek me." 5:14

"Woe unto them! for they have fled from me: destruction unto them!" 7:13

For ignoring God "their princes shall fall by the sword." 7:16

"I will send a fire upon his cities." 8:14

God will induce miscarriages and kill the children of Ephraim. 9:11-12

"O Lord: what wilt thou give? give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts." 9:14

"I will slay even the beloved fruit of their womb." 9:16

God will punish Israel by "dashing" together mothers and their children. 10:14

The blame for Ephraim's bloody destruction falls on Ephraim, not on God. Even though God is the one who brings it about. 12:14

God will rip humans apart and then eat them like a lion.13:7-8

Because the Samaritans chose to worship another deity, God will dash their infants to pieces and their "women with child shall be ripped up." 13:16
Joel

"Beat your plowshares into swords and your pruninghooks into spears." 3:10
Amos

The divine pyromaniac threatens to "send fire unto" Hazael, Gaza, Tyrus, Teman, Rabbah, Moab, and Judah. 1:4, 7, 10, 12, 14; 2:2, 5

God will "slay all the princes" of Moab.2:3

God destroyed the Amorites who were a race of giants as tall as cedars and as strong as oaks. 2:9

God afflicts the Israelites with "cleanness of teeth" (famine) and drought. And then he wonders why they don't turn to him. 4:6-9

God sends the pestilence, kills young men with the sword, and makes t1e "stink of your camps to come up unto your nostrils." 4:10

God tells the Israelites to seek him or he'll kill 90% of them. 5:3-4

Seek God or he'll burn you to death. 5:6

When there is wailing and mourning, you'll know God's been there. 5:16-17

In the first of Amos' visions, God makes some grasshoppers and sends them to devour the peoples' crops. 7:1-2

Next God sends a fire that consumes both land and sea. 7:4

God will kill the house of Jeroboam with the sword, and force the Israelites into captivity. 7:9-11

Amos tells Amaziah that his wife will become a *****, his children will be killed, and he'll die in a pagan country. 7:17

God tells Amos that the end has come for the people of Israel. He won't wait any longer to kill them all. 8:2

God will kill so many people that dead bodies will lay everywhere. 8:3-14

God will "slay the last of them with the sword." Any that try to escape by diving to the bottom of the sea will be bitten, at God's command, by a serpent. God will set his "eyes upon them for evil, not for good." 9:1-4

God will destroy the "the sinful kingdom" and "all the sinners" among his people. 9:8-10
Obadiah

The Israelites hear "a rumor from the Lord" telling them to start a war with the Edomites. 1, 8

God tells Israelites to "destroy the wise men out of Edom" and to slaughter "everyone of the mount of Esau." 8-9

God will burn all the heathen to death, "for the LORD hath spoken it." 16-18
Micah

God will destroy Samaria with stones. 1:6

Plucking off skin, flesh from bones, eating human flesh, flaying off skin, breaking bones, chopping bodies in pieces, making human stew. All this and more will happen to God's favorite people. But when they "cry unto the Lord, he will not hear them." 3:2-4

God will strengthen the Israelites so they can "beat in pieces many peoples" and give the booty to God. 4:13

"They shall waste the land of Assyria with the sword." 5:6

Like a young lion "the remnant of Jacob" will tear the Gentiles to pieces. 5:8

"Thine hand shall be lifted up upon thine adversaries, and all thine enemies shall be cut off." 5:9

God will "cut off" the witches and soothsayers. 5:11-12

God will destroy entire cities, and "execute vengeance in anger and fury upon the heathen such as they have not heard." 5:14-15

God will make his people sick, hungry, and desolate. Those who survive he will "give up to the sword." 6:13-16

The Gentiles will be made deaf, shall lick dust and be forced to crawl like worms from fear of God and his people. 7:16-17
Nahum

God doesn't just get even. He drowns his enemies. 1:8

"Behold, I am against thee, saith the LORD of hosts, and I will burn her chariots." 2:13

"There is a multitude of slain, and a great number of carcasses; and there is none end of their corpses; they stumble upon their corpses." Now that's a lot of dead people. 3:3

God punished Nineveh by enslaving the people and smashing the little children in the streets. 3:10

God says that "the fire shall devour thee, the sword shall cut thee off, it shall eat thee up like the cankerworm." 3:15

Habakkuk

"Before him [God] went the pestilence, and burning coals went forth at his feet." 3:3-5

Habakkuk praises God for slaughtering "the heathen." 3:12
Zephaniah

God plans to kill every living thing. 1:2-3

God will "cut off" all those who "have not sought the Lord" or who worship another god. 1:4-6

God will "bring distress upon men" so that they "walk like blind men." He will pour out their blood like dust and "their flesh as dung." 1:17

God will kill all the inhabitants of the sea coast. 2:5

God will destroy Moab and Ammon just like he did to Sodom and Gomorrah. 2:9

God will be "terrible" to humans and will "famish all the gods." 2:11

God will kill the Ethiopians with his own sword. 2:12

God destroyed entire cities, killing all the inhabitants. 3:6

"All of the earth shall be devoured with the fire of my jealousy." 3:8
Haggai

God will make the horses and their riders be killed by "the sword of his brother." 2:22
Zechariah

"For I set all men every one against his neighbor." 8:10

God will cast out Tyrus and devour it with fire. 9:4

God will mercilessly "feed the flock of slaughter" by making every one kill his neighbor. 11:6

"Let the rest eat every one the flesh of another." 11:9

"Woe to the idle shepherd." He will be mutilated and blinded. 11:17

God will open his eyes and smite "every rider with madness ... and every horse ... with blindness." 12:4

A prophet must be killed by his own parents by "thrusting him through when he prophesieth." 13:3

God will make "all nations" fight against Jerusalem. The women will be "ravished" and half its people enslaved. 14:1-2

God will smite the people with plagues that will cause their flesh, eyes, and tongues to rot away. 14:12

God will make everyone fight and kill his neighbor. 14:13

God sends his plagues on animals too. 14:15

Whoever survives all these plagues and slaughters must worship God. 14:16

God will "smite the heathen" with a plague. 14:18
Malachi

God continues to demand animal sacrifices. And not just any animals will do. He is insulted when blind, lame, or sick animals are killed for him. 1:8, 13-14

God will burn "the wicked" and the "righteous" will walk around on their ashes. 4:1-3

The Old Testament ends fittingly with these words: "lest I come and smite the earth with a curse." 4:6

God will burn "the wicked" and the "righteous" will walk around on their ashes. 25:1-3
Matthew

Those who bear bad fruit will be cut down and burned "with unquenchable fire." 3:10, 12

Jesus strongly approves of the law and the prophets. He hasn't the slightest objection to the cruelties of the Old Testament. 5:17

Jesus recommends that to avoid sin we cut off our hands and pluck out our eyes. This advice is given immediately after he says that anyone who looks with lust at any women commits adultery. 5:29-30

Jesus says that most people will go to hell. 7:13-14

Those who fail to bear "good fruit" will be "hewn down, and cast into the fire." 7:19

"The children of the kingdom [the Jews] shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth." 8:12

Jesus tells a man who had just lost his father: "Let the dead bury the dead." 8:21

Jesus sends some devils into a herd of pigs, causing them to run off a cliff and drown in the waters below. 8:32

Cities that neither "receive" the disciples nor "hear" their words will be destroyed by God. It will be worse for them than for Sodom and Gomorrah. And you know what God supposedly did to those poor folks (see Gen.19:24). 10:14-15

Families will be torn apart because of Jesus (this is one of the few "prophecies" in the Bible that has actually come true). "Brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death." 10:21

Jesus says that we should fear God who is willing and "able to destroy both soul and body in hell." 10:28

Jesus says that he has come to destroy families by making family members hate each other. He has "come not to send peace, but a sword." 10:34-36

Jesus condemns entire cities to dreadful deaths and to the eternal torment of hell because they didn't care for his preaching. 11:20-24

Jesus will send his angels to gather up "all that offend" and they "shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth." 13:41-42, 50

Jesus is criticized by the Pharisees for not washing his hands before eating. He defends himself by attacking them for not killing disobedient children according to the commandment: "He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death." (See Ex.21:15, Lev.20:9, Dt.21:18-21) So, does Jesus think that children who curse their parents should be killed? It sure sounds like it. 15:4-7

Jesus advises his followers to mutilate themselves by cutting off their hands and plucking out their eyes. He says it's better to be "maimed" than to suffer "everlasting fire." 18:8-9

"And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors." 18:34

In the parable of the marriage feast, the king sends his servants to gather everyone they can find, both bad and good, to come to the wedding feast. One guest didn't have on his wedding garment, so the king tied him up and "cast him into the outer darkness" where "there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth." 22:12-13

Jesus had no problem with the idea of drowning everyone on earth in the flood. It'll be just like that when he returns. 24:37

God will come when people least expect him and then he'll "cut them asunder." And "there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth." 24:50-51

The servant who kept and returned his master's talent was cast into the "outer darkness" where there will be "weeping and gnashing of teeth." 25:30

Jesus tells us what he has planned for those that he dislikes. They will be cast into an "everlasting fire." 25:41

Jesus says the ****ed will be tormented forever. 25:46
Mark

Jesus explains why he speaks in parables: to confuse people so they will go to hell. 4:11-12

Jesus sends devils into 2000 pigs, causing them to jump off a cliff and be drowned in the sea. When the people hear about it, they beg Jesus to leave. 5:12-13

Any city that doesn't "receive" the followers of Jesus will be destroyed in a manner even more savage than that of Sodom and Gomorrah. 6:11

Jesus criticizes the Jews for not killing their disobedient children as required by Old Testament law. (See Ex.21:15, Lev.20:9, Dt.21:18-21) 7:9-10

If you're ashamed of Jesus, he'll be ashamed of you. (And you'll go straight to hell.) 8:38

Jesus tells us to cut off our hands and feet, and pluck out our eyes to avoid going to hell. 9:43-49

Jesus says that those that believe and are baptized will be saved, while those who don't will be ****ed. 16:16
Luke

God strikes Zacharias dumb for doubting the angel Gabriel's words. 1:20

Those who fail to bear "good fruit" will be "hewn down, and cast into the fire." 3:9

John the Baptist says that Christ will burn the ****ed "with fire unquenchable." 3:17

Jesus heals a naked man who was possessed by many devils by sending the devils into a herd of pigs, causing them to run off a cliff and drown in the sea. This messy, cruel, and expensive (for the owners of the pigs) treatment did not favorably impress the local residents, and Jesus was asked to leave. 8:27-37

Jesus says that entire cities will be violently destroyed and the inhabitants "thrust down to hell" for not "receiving" his disciples. 10:10-15

Jesus says that we should fear God since he has the power to kill us and then torture us forever in hell. 12:5

Jesus says that God is like a slave-owner who beats his slaves "with many stripes." 12:46-47

According to Jesus, only a few will be saved; the vast majority will suffer eternally in hell where "there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth." 13:23-30

In the parable of the rich man and Lazarus, the rich man goes to hell, because as Abraham explains, he had a good life on earth and so now he will be tormented. Whereas Lazarus, who was miserable on earth, is now in heaven. This seems fair to Jesus. 16:19-31

Jesus believed the story of Noah's ark. He thought it really happened and had no problem with the idea of God drowning everything and everybody. 17:26-27

Jesus also believes the story about Noah's flood and Sodom's destruction. He says, "even thus shall it be in the day the son of man is revealed ... Remember Lot's wife." This tells us about Jesus' knowledge of science and history, and his sense of justice. 17:29-32

In the parable of the talents, Jesus says that God takes what is not rightly his, and reaps what he didn't sow. The parable ends with the words: "bring them [those who preferred not to be ruled by him] hither, and slay them before me." 19:22-27
John

As an example to parents everywhere and to save the world (from himself), God had his own son tortured and killed. 3:16

People are ****ed or saved depending only on what they believe. 3:18, 36

The "wrath of God" is on all unbelievers. 3:36

Jesus believes people are crippled by God as a punishment for sin. He tells a crippled man, after healing him, to "sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee." 5:14

Those who do not believe in Jesus will be cast into a fire to be burned. 15:6

Jesus says we must eat his flesh and drink his blood if we want to have eternal life. This idea was just too gross for "many of his disciples" and "walked no more with him." 6:53-66
Acts

Peter claims that Dt.18:18-19 refers to Jesus, saying that those who refuse to follow him (all non-Christians) must be killed. 3:23

Peter and God scare Ananias and his wife to death for not forking over all of the money that they made when selling their land. 5:1-10

Peter has a dream in which God show him "wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls." The voice (God's?) says, "Rise, Peter: kill and eat." 10:10-13

Peter describes the vision that he had in the last chapter (10:10-13). All kinds of beasts, creeping things, and fowls drop down from the sky in a big sheet, and a voice (God's, Satan's?) tells him to "Arise, Peter; slay and eat." 11:5-6

The "angel of the Lord" killed Herod by having him "eaten of worms" because "he gave not God the glory." 12:23

David was "a man after [God's] own heart." 13:22

The author of Acts talks about the "sure mercies of David." But David was anything but merciful. For an example of his behavior see 2 Sam.12:31 and 1 Chr.20:3, where he saws, hacks, and burns to death the inhabitants of several cities. 13:34

Paul and the Holy Ghost conspire together to make Elymas (the sorcerer) blind. 13:8-11
Romans

Homosexuals (those "without natural affection") and their supporters (those "that have pleasure in them") are "worthy of death." 1:31-32

The guilty are "justified" and "saved from wrath" by the blood of an innocent victim. 5:9

God punishes everyone for someone else's sin; then he saves them by killing an innocent victim. 5:12
>1 Corinthians

If you defile the temple of God, God will destroy you. 3:17

Paul claims that God killed 23,000 in a plague for "committing *****dom with the daughters of Moab 10:8

If you tempt Christ (How could you tempt Christ?), you'll will die from snake bites. 10:9

If you murmur, you'll be destroyed by the destroyer (God). 10:10
Ephesians

We are predestined by God to go to either heaven or hell. None of our thoughts, words, or actions can affect the final outcome. 1:4-5, 11

God had his son murdered to keep himself from hurting others for things they didn't do. 1:7

The bloody death of Jesus smelled good to God. 5:2

Those who refuse to obey will face the wrath of God. 5:6
Colossians

God bought us with someone else's blood. 1:14

God makes peace through blood. 1:19-20
1 Thessalonians

God is planning a messy, mass murder in "the wrath to come" and only Jesus can save you from it. 1:10
2 Thessalonians

Jesus will take "vengeance on them that know not God" by burning them forever "in flaming fire." 1:7-9

Jesus will "consume" the wicked "with the spirit of his mouth." 2:8

God will cause us to believe lies so that he can **** our souls to hell. 2:11-12
Hebrews

God will not forgive us unless we shed the blood of some innocent creature. 9:13-14, 22

Those who disobeyed the Old Testament law were killed without mercy. It will be much worse for those who displease Jesus. 10:28-29

God ordered animals to be "stoned, or thrust through with a dart" if they "so much as ... touch the mountain." 12:20
James

If you are merciless to others, God will be merciless to you. (Two wrongs make a right.) 2:13

James says Abraham was justified by works (for being willing to kill his son for God); Paul (Rom.4:2-3) says he was justified by faith (for believing that God would order him to do such an evil act). 2:21
1 Peter

We are all, according to Peter, predestined to be saved or ****ed. We have no say in the matter. It was all determined by "the sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ."1:2

"The precious blood of Christ ... was foreordained before the foundation of the world."
God planned to kill Jesus from the get-go. 1:19-20

God drowned drowned everyone on earth except for Noah and his family. 3:20
2 Peter

God drowned everyone else on earth except for Noah and his family. 2:5, 3:6

God will set the entire earth on fire so that he can burn non-believers to death. 3:7

When Jesus returns, he'll burn up the whole earth and everything on it. 3:10
1 John

Jesus' blood washes away human sin. 1:7
Jude

"The Lord destroyed them that believed not. 5
Revelation

Jesus "washed us ... with his own blood." 1:5

Everyone on earth will wail because of Jesus. 1:7

Jesus has "the keys of hell and death." 1:18

Repent -- or else Jesus will fight you with the sword that sticks out of his mouth. (Like the limbless knight in Monty Python's "Holy Grail.") 2:16

"I [Jesus] will kill her children with death." 2:23

"Thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created." God created predators, pathogens, and predators for his very own pleasure. One of his favorite species is guinea worms. 4:11

God gives someone on a white horse a bow and sends him out to conquer people. 6:2

God gave power to someone on a red horse "to take from the earth ... that they should kill one another." 6:4

God tells Death and Hell to kill one quarter of the earth's population with the sword, starvation, and "with the beasts of the earth." 6:8

The martyrs just can't wait until everyone else is slaughtered. God gives them a white robe and tells them to wait until he's done with his killing spree. 6:10-11

God tells his murderous angels to "hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of your God on their foreheads." This verse is one that Christians like to use to show God's loving concern for the environment. But the previous verse (7:2) makes it clear that it was their God-given job to "hurt the earth and the sea" just as soon as they finished their forehead marking job. 7:3

144,000 Jews will be going to heaven; everyone else is going to hell. 7:4

Those that survive the great tribulation will get to wash their clothes in the blood of the lamb. 7:14

God sends his angels to destroy a third part of all the trees, grass, sea creature, mountains, sun, moon, starts, and water. 8:7-13

"Many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter." 8:11

The angels are instructed not to "hurt the grass [how could they? He already had all the grass killed in 8:7] ... but only those men which have not the seal of God on their foreheads." God tells his angels not to kill them, but rather torment them with scorpions for five months. Those tormented will want to die, but God won't let them. 9:4-6

God makes some horse-like locusts with human heads, women's hair, lion's teeth, and scorpion's tails. They sting people and hurt them for five months. 9:7-10

Four angels, with an army of 200 million, killed a third of the earth's population. 9:15-19

Anyone that messes with God's two olive trees and two candlesticks (God's witnesses) will be burned to death by fire that comes out of their mouths. 11:3-5

God's witnesses have special powers. They can shut up heaven so that it cannot rain, turn rivers into blood, and smite the earth with plagues "as often as they will." 11:6

After God's witnesses "have finished their testimony," they are killed in a war with a beast from a bottomless pit. 11:7

Their dead bodies lie unburied for three and a half days. People will "rejoice over them and make merry, and shall send gifts to one another." After another three and half days God brings his witnesses back to life and they ascend into heaven. 11:8-12

When the witnesses ascend into heaven, an earthquake kills 7000 men. This was the second woe. "The third woe cometh quickly." 11:13-14

"The Lamb slain from the foundation of the world"
God planned to kill Jesus before he created the world. 13:8

Those who receive the mark of the beast will "drink of the wine of the wrath of God ... and shall be tormented with fire and brimstone ... and the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever." 14:10-11

"The great winepress of the wrath of God ... was trodden ... and the blood cam out of the winepress, even unto the horses bridles." 14:19-20

Seven angels with seven plagues are filled with the wrath of God. 15:1, 15:7

The seven vials of wrath: 1) sores, 2) sea turned to blood, 3) rivers turned to blood, 4) people scorched with fire, 5) people gnaw their tongues in pain, 6) Euphrates dries up, 7) thunder, lightning, earthquake, and hail. 16:1-21

God gave the saints and prophets blood to drink. 16:6

"They shall eat her flesh and burn her with fire." (Are they going to eat her first and then burn her?) 17:16-17

To punish her God will send plagues and famine, and "she will be utterly burned with fire." 18:8

God will send plagues, death, and famine on Babylon, and the kings "who have committed fornication with her" will be sad to see her burn. 18:8-9

Jesus makes war. 19:11

With eyes aflame, many crowns on his head, clothes dripping with blood, a sword sticking out of his mouth, and a secret name, Jesus leads the faithful into holy war. 19:12-15

"Come ... unto the supper of the great God." An angel calls all the fowls to feast upon the flesh of dead horses and human bodies, "both free and bond, both small and great." 19:17-18

The beast and the false prophet are cast alive into a lake of fire. The rest were killed with the sword of Jesus. "And all the fowls were filled with their flesh." 19:20-21

God will send fire from heaven to devour people. And the devil will be tormented "day and night for ever and ever." 20:9-10

Whoever isn't found listed in the book of life will be cast into the lake of fire. 20:15

All liars, as well as those who are fearful or unbelieving, will be cast into "the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone." 21:8


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[barney]

Nice list.
As we can see from the above, It would be perfectly possible and indeed has been the case in medevial times and before for Christians to quote and use the fiery brimstone of the bible in exactly the same way as "Radical" Islamists use the quaran today.

18:8:9 sounds like one that GWB could quote if he was actually religious.

I love the "Killed by death" one.....Rather than "Killed by Nutmeg..with a light topping of cheese"

There are a handful of evangelical christian churches who spout all of this lunacy. Fortunatly the massive bulk of christians carry guitars and wear wooly jumpers and make Jam for the village fete.
When they start massing in hundreds of thosands flogging themselves and screaming "Death to Iran!", I'm getting in a dinghy and rowing to the middle of the pacific till everyones had their fill of hate.

[Muslim Knight]

Of course I saw it.
That dosn't change a thing.

If it sits easily with people that a prophet can order that, then it sits easy.

The idea of branding someones eyes is as barbaric as stoning.
Other prophets are not recorded as using torture before slaying people.

As I say, If people find some excuse in this action, fine.

Our friend barney here thinks society should be lenient towards murderous criminals and throw them into prison instead. Great. Murder someone and brand his eyes and you get free accomodation and free food. What other great way to promote stuff.

[barney]

As i say, If torture is a boat floater, float the boat.

If your going to have the death penalty, personally i beleive it should be a quick and humane death.
I'm also against the death penalty due to miscarrige of justices, only on cast iron provable cases.

Ive seen enough videos of baying crowds to know that some people get a kick out of stoning. How much more of a kick would branding the eyes be?

I cant find any excuse for heating metal till it glows and pressing it into someones face. Just me i suppose...i must be soft.

I also would like to know how we know this guy branded the eyes of the guy he killed? Is that written somewhere? I cant find it.

[doorster]

ask daniel

[جوري]

Our friend barney here thinks society should be lenient towards murderous criminals and throw them into prison instead. Great. Murder someone and brand his eyes and you get free accomodation and free food. What other great way to promote stuff.

I don't take him seriously, I think him a confabulating old fogy with pick's disease, so I let him have his fun...

:w:

[barney]

Let me get my pipe and slippers out a second.....

So we have The modern day USA with it's laws making 6 Century Arabia look a model of humanity.

Theifs and murderers get imprisoned and in extremis lethal injections.....

they dont get branded.

But as i say...if your a torture fan...its fine.

Oh BTW virtual insults have as much weight as self-destructing US tanks being sold to Muslims.

[doorster]

master pipes has taught you well, glass hoppa

[جوري]

You are a a sub-mediocre being who draws satisfaction out of simplistic conclusions, and I say this because by no stretch of the imagination are you able to on a very basic level construct what life was like on a social, political or economic level in that part of the world centuries past, and you are so un-involved now, that there is positively no chance of you reforming the descent of your mind..
you are the sort that would boast having read the Quran and having volumes of literature on Islam and Islamic jurisprudence but you are so dense you couldn't navigate your way through it...
You'd read a sura like 33 and some of the very basic verses in there, of equality and justice would fall on your blind eyes or would seem to you disjointed.. but it isn't because you are as you profess a softy, it is because you enjoy your blinders.. I just pray as I leave this forum, that the young Muslims in here and I have faith in G-D, that despite their young years they can research read their history and cut through your crap, not just yours actually but those like you infiltrating the web with their lies as you have demonstrated earlier with the so-called Muslim burning of the library of Alexandria...
You are so ignorant, I hope for your sake you meet always with like minds at the bar where you can drink your A$$ off into Korsakoff's .

[doorster]

Let me get my pipe and slippers out a second.....

So we have The modern day USA with it's laws making 6 Century Arabia look a model of humanity.

Theifs and murderers get imprisoned and in extremis lethal injections.....

they dont get branded.

But as i say...if your a torture fan...its fine.

Oh BTW virtual insults have as much weight as self-destructing US tanks being sold to Muslims.

My father tells me to tell you that during the wars of 65 and 71 you stopped supplying us with spare parts both for tanks and aircraft midway thru the battle as well as holding some of our fully paid for airplanes to ransome and abandoning us to mercy of hindus

very much akin to self-destruct, don't you think?
good of you though, because it taught us not to trust you and look at other sources and ways of protecting our land from raiders

with grace of Allah since we stopped trusting you and started relying on ouselves not a single war, excepting minor border skirmishes, has broken out almost 36 years have gone by without a major raid on our country!

[جوري]

Maybe he can also enlighten you on Brigadier-General Dyer who ordered troops to open fire on a peaceful demonstration killing four hundred people mostly women and children only to later retire, and receive Army pension.. just one of the many affable compassionate acts of the "civilized world".. I have volumes of books here on their benevolent empire. and he has the B**** to come here speak of jam and barbaric Muslims.

[- Qatada -]

Barney, the explanation for that hadith is in Fath Al Baari, an explanation of Sahih Al Bukhari by the famous scholar Ibn Hajar al Asqalaani.


In regard to why the punishment was so severe - we can say that it's because the bedouin arabs at that time were a harsh people, being killed for their tribe was a sign of honor for them. And they were really harsh against the believers, many tried ambushing the muslims, especially when they were a minority, and when the Islamic state was new.


To show people that what they're doing is wrong, and that we don't take your injustice and oppression as something acceptable - the punishment against them was also severe. A simple removal of the head wouldn't be sufficient, rather the punishment is equal to the crime.


Similarly when the Jews within Medina were about to kill the believing women and children behind the Muslims backs (when the believing men were in war - in the battle of Al-Ahzaab [the Confederates]) - Allaah provided a way out for the believers and made them victorious. The male Jews (of Banu Quraydha) who commited treason within Medina were executed. Why? Because the punishment is equal to the crime.



This makes people think twice before doing any act of oppression and injustice, if they really want to harm the believers - they should know that there is a similar punishment awaiting them in this life, and the one in the life to come is even more severe.



And Allaah Almighty knows best.

[barney]

[QUOTE=doorster;772533]My father tells me to tell you that during the wars of 65 and 71 you stopped supplying us with spare parts both for tanksQUOTE]

Your dad got the year wrong, but "We" i.e the yanks did. Because you were a pawn of the USSR which had over 30000 nuclear missiles pointed right at them.

This is a little different from the Knowlage of "exploding tanks- with evil US detonators inside them" which the previous poster has alleged to. Which despite the great urge I wont resort to her level of meaningless attacks.

As for Dyer, I'd have him hung. A mass murderer. We paid him (the british public) £25000 to our eternal shame. The government deposed him and tried to hide him away. If I'd a SA80 in my hand at the time , I'd have capped him.

This started off as a question about the hadiths that on the face of it seem unusual. I started with Camel urine. I now accept that although more harmful than good, it has some risky properties attached to it, it's occasionaly ok if drunk. A "Doctor" using wiki for her/his (totally random) medical knowlage would be able to tell you that, and thats fine.

Another muslim decided to wade in with a explaination of the branding. There wasnt any need. I accept that Mohammed ordered the branding of eyes.
All i have to say about that is it's barbaric, 6th centrury and certainly not the work of a man of a merciful god. Perhaps the hadith is wrong? Nope?

Anyway I wasnt seeking an aguement , but it appears some people are embarressed about the torture and need to leap to islams defence.
No need. If Torture is your thing, then its ok. im getting tired of saying that.

Brand eyes, flay skin. if its acceptable to you in the light of the modern world and its unchangeable or unthinkable to question it. Fine.
Skin, Stone, Flay away. Your happy, Im happy the people being branded are happy.

My last post here. Have fun.

[doorster]

[quote=barney;773325]

My father tells me to tell you that during the wars of 65 and 71 you stopped supplying us with spare parts both for tanksQUOTE]

Your dad got the year wrong, but "We" i.e the yanks did. Because you were a pawn of the USSR which had over 30000 nuclear missiles pointed right at them.

This is a little different from the Knowlage of "exploding tanks- with evil US detonators inside them" which the previous poster has alleged to. Which despite the great urge I wont resort to her level of meaningless attacks.

As for Dyer, I'd have him hung. A mass murderer. We paid him (the british public) £25000 to our eternal shame. The government deposed him and tried to hide him away. If I'd a SA80 in my hand at the time , I'd have capped him.

This started off as a question about the hadiths that on the face of it seem unusual. I started with Camel urine. I now accept that although more harmful than good, it has some risky properties attached to it, it's occasionaly ok if drunk. A "Doctor" using wiki for her/his (totally random) medical knowlage would be able to tell you that, and thats fine.

Another muslim decided to wade in with a explaination of the branding. There wasnt any need. I accept that Mohammed ordered the branding of eyes.
All i have to say about that is it's barbaric, 6th centrury and certainly not the work of a man of a merciful god. Perhaps the hadith is wrong? Nope?

Anyway I wasnt seeking an aguement , but it appears some people are embarressed about the torture and need to leap to islams defence.
No need. If Torture is your thing, then its ok. im getting tired of saying that.

Brand eyes, flay skin. if its acceptable to you in the light of the modern world and its unchangeable or unthinkable to question it. Fine.
Skin, Stone, Flay away. Your happy, Im happy the people being branded are happy.

My last post here. Have fun.

No, we have never been pawns of USSR. though we have been pawns for US from time to time.

for example we destroyed USSR, after we learnt to negociate with US.
while the world thought that it was rag bag taliban, osama and other weirdos and drug dealing sodomite "mojahideen" fighting Soviets in Afghaistan, It was our Inter-Sevices Intelligence and regulars from Commandos chosen from Baluch regiment armed with 1.8 thousand+ CIA supllied Stingers (man portable infra-red homing surface-to-air missiles).

[doorster]

sorry, if we have been at cross puposes, it was not Uk but US, who abandoned us in 65 an 71 (Pakistan v India wars)

[جوري]

An interesting insight on justice, judgment and the qualities of mercy... everything his folk do to torment the innocent; not even hardened deserving criminals, sits well wit him or can certainly be dismissed with "I'd have liked to have hung him" and in same breath talks of the incongruity of punishment being a quality of a merciful G-D!

I don't feel the need to defend my position on any stance, or further descend into word play with a callous oaf!

as for his psychotic behavior, he may certainly read about it in, http://uptodate.com/ <<source and that is saving him a $400 subscription fees!
Here is to hoping he's stop confabulating and lay off the booze!

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Wernicke's encephalopathy

Michael E Charness, MD
Yuen T So, MD, PhD


UpToDate performs a continuous review of over 375 journals and other resources. Updates are added as important new information is published. The literature review for version 15.1 is current through December 2006; this topic was last changed on December 29, 2005. The next version of UpToDate (15.2) will be released in June 2007.

INTRODUCTION — Wernicke-Korsakoff syndrome is the best known neurologic complication of thiamine (vitamin B1) deficiency [1]. The term refers to two different syndromes, each representing a different stage of the disease. Wernicke's encephalopathy (WE) is an acute syndrome requiring emergent treatment to prevent death and neurologic morbidity. Korsakoff's amnestic syndrome (KS) refers to a chronic neurologic condition that usually occurs as a consequence of WE.

In 1881, Carl Wernicke described an acute encephalopathy characterized by mental confusion, ophthalmoplegia, and gait ataxia and associated with autopsy findings of punctate hemorrhages around the third and fourth ventricles and the aqueduct. A few years later, Russian psychiatrist Sergei Korsakoff described a chronic amnestic syndrome in which memory was impaired far out of proportion to other cognitive domains. While both observations were described in the context of chronic alcoholism, neither Wernicke nor Korsakoff initially recognized the relationship between the disorders, which was not appreciated until later by other investigators.

This topic will review Wernicke's encephalopathy. Korsakoff's amnestic syndrome and other chronic neurologic complications of alcohol abuse are reviewed elsewhere (See "Overview of the chronic neurologic complications of alcohol"). Alcohol withdrawal is also discussed separately. (See "Alcohol withdrawal syndromes").

EPIDEMIOLOGY — Typical brain lesions of Wernicke's encephalopathy (WE) are observed at autopsy in 0.8 to 2.8 percent of the general population in the Western world, and the vast majority of affected patients are alcoholic [2,3]. The prevalence of WE lesions seen on autopsy was 12.5 percent of alcohol abusers in one report [4]. Among those with alcohol-related deaths, it has been reported to be even higher, 29 to 59 percent [5,6]. Autopsy studies have consistently revealed a higher incidence of Wernicke lesions in the general population than is predicted by clinical studies [1,7].

While cases of WE in men outnumber those in women, women appear to be more susceptible to developing WE than men. In several series, the female to male ratio for WE was higher than the ratio for alcohol dependence [1,7].

Associated conditions — While most often associated with chronic alcoholism, WE occurs also in the setting of poor nutrition caused by malabsorption, poor dietary intake, increased metabolic requirement (eg, during systemic illnesses), or increased loss of the water-soluble vitamin thiamine (eg, in renal dialysis). In one autopsy series, non-alcohol abusers accounted for 12 of 52 cases (23 percent) of WE [8]. Conditions associated with WE include:

Chronic alcoholism
Anorexia nervosa or dieting [9]
Hyperemesis of pregnancy [10,11]
Prolonged intravenous feeding without proper supplementation [12,13]
Prolonged fasting or starvation, especially with refeeding [14]
Gastrointestinal surgery (including bariatric surgery) [12,15-18]
Systemic malignancy [19-21]
Transplantation [22]
Hemodialysis or peritoneal dialysis [23-25]
Acquired immunodeficiency syndrome [26-28]
PATHOPHYSIOLOGY — Thiamine is a cofactor for several key enzymes important in energy metabolism, including transketolase, alpha-ketoglutarate dehydrogenase, and pyruvate dehydrogenase [1]. Thiamine requirements depend on metabolic rate, with the greatest need during periods of high metabolic demand and high glucose intake. This is manifest by the precipitation of Wernicke's encephalopathy (WE) in susceptible patients by administration of intravenous glucose before thiamine supplementation [29].

Evidence for the role of thiamine in WE is supported by observations that the thiamine antagonist pyrithiamine causes experimental thiamine deficiency in rats, resulting in a sequence of ataxia, loss of the righting reflex, and convulsions [30,31]. In some cases, low levels of magnesium, an essential cofactor of thiamine into its active diphosphate and triphosphate forms, have been implicated with thiamine deficiency in WE [32].

It is unclear how thiamine deficiency causes brain lesions. Because of its role in cerebral energy utilization, it has been proposed that its deficiency initiates neuronal injury by inhibiting metabolism in brain regions with high metabolic requirements and high thiamine turnover. Events such as blood-brain barrier breakdown, N-methyl-D-aspartic acid (NMDA) receptor-mediated excitotoxicity, and increased reactive oxygen species have been implicated in thiamine deficiency-induced neurotoxicity [33].

Thiamine deficiency in alcohol abusers results from a combination of inadequate dietary intake, reduced gastrointestinal absorption, decreased hepatic storage, and impaired utilization [34].

Only a subset of thiamine-deficient alcohol abusers develop WE. Greater susceptibility among identical rather than fraternal twins suggests a genetic predisposition [33]. Investigators have found that in alcohol abusers with WE, the thiamine-dependent enzyme transketolase has an altered affinity for thiamine [35-43]. Variants in the high affinity thiamine transporter gene have also been implicated [44,45].

Pathology — Acute WE lesions are characterized by vascular congestion, microglial proliferation, and petechial hemorrhages. In chronic cases, there is demyelination, gliosis, and loss of neuropil with relative preservation of neurons. Neuronal loss is most prominent in the relatively unmyelinated medial thalamus [1,46]. Atrophy of the mamillary bodies is a highly specific finding in chronic WE and Korsakoff syndrome and is present in up to 80 percent of cases [1,47].

The lesions of WE occur in a characteristic, symmetrical distribution in structures surrounding the third ventricle, aqueduct, and fourth ventricle [1,47]. The mamillary bodies are involved in virtually all cases, and the dorsomedial thalamus, locus ceruleus, periaqueductal gray, ocular motor nuclei, and vestibular nuclei are commonly affected. Lesions occur less frequently in the colliculi, fornices, septal region, hippocampus, and cerebral cortex, which may show patchy, diffuse neuronal loss and astrocytic proliferation.

In about one-half of cases, sagittal sections through the cerebellum reveal selective loss of Purkinje cells at the tips of the folia of the anterior superior cerebellar vermis. The latter changes are identical to those found in alcoholic cerebellar degeneration, where they can occur in the absence of other Wernicke lesions. (See "Overview of the chronic neurologic complications of alcohol", section on Alcoholic cerebellar degeneration).

CLINICAL MANIFESTATIONS

Classic signs — The classic triad of Wernicke's encephalopathy (WE) includes:

Encephalopathy
Oculomotor dysfunction
Gait ataxia
Clinical recognition of WE is straightforward when an alcoholic presents with this classic triad. However, this may be the exception, not the rule. Detailed clinical and neuropathological data from 82 autopsies and 245 patients examined over 10 years revealed that all features of the triad were recognized in only one-third of patients; in most, elements of the clinical triad appeared alone or in combination [1]. Confusion was the most common presenting symptom, followed by staggering gait and ocular problems. A similar constellation of symptoms has been reported in smaller series [4,48].

Absence of one or more of the classic symptoms likely leads to under diagnosis [4,49]. In one series, WE was diagnosed premortem in only 26 of 131 patients whose brains revealed chronic WE lesions. All signs of the classic triad were recorded in 17 percent; none were recorded in 19 percent [49]. Clinical records recorded a high incidence of mental status abnormalities (82 percent), but much lower incidences of ataxia (23 percent), ocular motor abnormalities (29 percent), and polyneuropathy (11 percent).

The symptoms may present more or less simultaneously. Often, however, ataxia precedes other symptoms by a few days or weeks [1].

Encephalopathy — The encephalopathy is characterized by profound disorientation, indifference, and inattentiveness [1]. If these are less severe and permit higher cognitive testing, impaired memory and learning are also evident. Some patients exhibit an agitated delirium related to concomitant ethanol withdrawal. Fewer than 5 percent present with a depressed level of consciousness, although the course in untreated patients will progress through stupor and coma to death [1,50]. In one autopsy series, patients with unrecognized WE frequently had lethargy or coma.
Oculomotor dysfunction — Nystagmus, lateral rectus palsy, and conjugate gaze palsies reflect lesions of the oculomotor, abducens, and vestibular nuclei. Ocular abnormalities usually occur in combination rather than alone.
Nystagmus is the most common finding and is typically evoked by horizontal gaze to both sides [1]. Vertical nystagmus can also occur, usually evoked by upward, rather than downward, gaze. Rotatory and vertical nystagmus alone are uncommon. Lateral rectus palsy is virtually always bilateral. Vertical gaze palsies are less common than conjugate gaze palsies, and isolated vertical gaze palsy, internuclear ophthalmoplegia, and complete ophthalmoplegia are rare. Pupillary abnormalities, usually sluggish or unequal pupils, may be present. A light-near dissociation is sometimes seen. In advanced cases, there may be complete loss of eye movements with miotic, nonreactive pupils. Ptosis is uncommon.

Gait ataxia — Ataxia primarily involves stance and gait and is likely due to a combination of polyneuropathy, cerebellar involvement, and vestibular dysfunction [1,51]. When severe, walking is impossible. Less affected patients walk with a wide-based gait and slow, short-spaced steps. Gait abnormalities are appreciated only on tandem gait in some patients.
Cerebellar pathology is generally restricted to the anterior and superior vermis; thus, ataxia of the legs or arms and dysarthria or scanning speech are uncommon [1]. Vestibular dysfunction may be the major cause of acute gait ataxia in WE, also explaining the dissociation between gait and limb abnormalities [1,51,52]. These findings contrast with those reported in patients with alcoholic cerebellar degeneration, in whom lower extremity ataxia is common [53]. (See "Overview of the chronic neurologic complications of alcohol", section on Alcoholic cerebellar degeneration).

Other signs — In addition to the classic triad, stupor or coma, hypotension, and hypothermia were prominent findings in unsuspected cases [49]. Patients with WE may also present with the following findings:

Evidence of protein-calorie malnutrition is observed frequently in patients with WE [1]. However, not all patients are malnourished; in Australia, some beer drinkers with WE were even reported to be overweight [54].
Vestibular dysfunction without hearing loss is a common finding [1,51,52]. In one study of 17 patients with acute WE, cold caloric responses were absent on at least one side in all, and abnormalities were bilateral in 11 [51]. The presence of spontaneous nystagmus with absent caloric responses appears to be a relatively specific finding in WE [52]. Vertigo is unusual. Some vestibular dysfunction is permanent after WE.
Peripheral neuropathy is common and typically involves just the lower extremities [1]. Patients complain of the gradual onset of weakness, paresthesias, and pain affecting the distal lower extremities. In many patients there are no symptoms of neuropathy, but examination reveals diminished or absent ankle jerks and patchy distal sensory loss.
Hypothermia has been described in 1 to 4 percent of patients with WE who went to autopsy, and it has been noted in numerous case reports [1,49,55]. Hypothermia may cause unreactive pupils [56], a finding rarely encountered in normothermic patients with WE [1]. Lesions in the posterior and posterolateral hypothalamus were noted in two patients with WE and hypothermia in one report [57]. This location is consistent with the known thermoregulatory functions of the hypothalamus. Other signs of autonomic involvement may include hypotension and syncope. In one autopsy series, hypotension and hypothermia were prevalent in unsuspected cases of WE [49].
While overt beriberi heart disease is rare in WE, other cardiovascular signs and symptoms are common and include tachycardia, exertional dyspnea, elevated cardiac output, and EKG abnormalities [1]. These reverse with thiamine administration.
DIAGNOSIS — Wernicke's encephalopathy (WE) is primarily a clinical diagnosis. Laboratory studies and neuroimaging studies can be helpful, but the biggest barrier to diagnosis is a low index of suspicion when all clinical symptoms are not present and in the nonalcoholic patient. Institution of treatment takes priority over diagnosis, and response to treatment may be diagnostic. (See "Treatment" below).

Differential diagnosis — WE should be considered in the differential diagnosis of all patients presenting with acute delirium or acute ataxia. It follows that other causes of delirium are considered in the diagnosis of a patient presenting with WE (show table 1). (See "Diagnosis of delirium and confusional states").

In one case series of 36 hospitalized geriatric patients, thiamine deficiency was common and associated with delirium [58]. In another small series, thiamine deficiency appeared to contribute to postoperative confusion in older patients after hip surgery [59]. These results appear to be contradicted by a larger series of 118 older inpatients in which there was no association between thiamine deficiency and delirium; however, the inclusion of patients with dementia and a broader definition of delirium in this study may have influenced these results [60].

Also, structural disease in the medial thalami or inferior medial temporal lobes such as occurs with top of the basilar stroke, hippocampal damage after cardiac arrest, herpes simplex encephalitis, and third ventricular tumors are likely considered because of the neuroanatomic overlap with WE [61].

Clinical criteria — Clinical recognition of WE is likely when an alcoholic presents with the classic symptom triad. However, autopsy-based series suggest that many patients lack one or more elements of this triad, and in some, lethargy or coma is the predominant clinical feature [1,4,49]. (See "Classic signs" above).
While autopsy studies likely underestimate the presence of classic signs that were not properly elicited, recognized, or recorded, it is clear that the diagnosis of WE can be missed when reliance is placed on the presence of all three of the typical symptoms.

One group proposed criteria for the diagnosis of WE and KS in chronic alcohol abusers based upon clinical-neuropathological correlation [62]. WE is diagnosed in patients with two of the following four Caine criteria:

Dietary deficiency
Oculomotor abnormalities
Cerebellar dysfunction
Either altered mental status or mild memory impairment
Applying these criteria to a cohort of 106 autopsied alcohol abusers increased the diagnostic sensitivity for WE from 22 percent using the classic triad, to 85 percent.

The Caine criteria are clearly more sensitive than the classic triad, but given the high morbidity and mortality associated with the disorder, they are not sensitive enough. Specificity is low, and these were not intended to apply to nonalcoholics in whom the diagnosis is further impeded by a lower index of suspicion.

Laboratory testing — There are no laboratory studies that are diagnostic of WE. Thiamine deficiency can be most reliably detected by measurement of erythrocyte thiamine transketolase (ETKA) before and after the addition of thiamine pyrophosphate (TPP). A low ETKA, along with a more than 25 percent stimulation, establishes the diagnosis of thiamine deficiency [63]. This test is often not readily available, especially in the emergency setting. A serum thiamine or thiamine pyrophosphate level in serum or whole blood can also be measured by chromatography [64]. (See "Overview of water-soluble vitamins", section on Thiamine). The sensitivity and specificity of these blood tests in symptomatic patients are unclear.

Results from these measurements are not considered necessary for patient management. When the diagnosis of WE is entertained, immediate thiamine replacement takes precedence over laboratory diagnosis. (See "Treatment" below).

Patients with WE will likely also be tested for other toxic and metabolic conditions that can lead to delirium. (See "Diagnosis of delirium and confusional states"). In the setting of fever, or other suspicion for central nervous system infection, a lumbar puncture is required. In WE, the cerebrospinal fluid may be normal or may show a mild protein elevation [1]. Pleocytosis or protein >100 mg/dL suggest alternative diagnoses. An EEG may be ordered if nonconvulsive seizures are suspected. In WE, only about half of patients will demonstrate abnormalities, usually diffuse mild to moderate slow wave activity [1].

Imaging studies — Imaging studies are not necessary in all patients with suspected WE and should not delay treatment. (See "Treatment" below). However, diagnostic imaging can be helpful by providing evidence of WE in many patients and may rule out alternative diagnoses.

Abnormalities on computerized tomography (CT) scans or magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) have been reported in small numbers of patients with acute WE [65]. CT may show symmetric, low density abnormalities in the diencephalon, midbrain, and periventricular regions that enhance after the injection of contrast [66-69]. Gross hemorrhages are uncommon in acute WE, but they have also been detected by CT [70]. These findings are uncommon in other disorders, and when present, should strongly suggest the diagnosis. However, CT is an insensitive test for WE; a normal CT scan does not rule out the diagnosis [48].

MRI is more sensitive than CT in detecting acute diencephalic and periventricular lesions [48,71,72]. Typical findings include areas of increased T2 and decreased T1 signal surrounding the aqueduct and third ventricle and within the medial thalamus and mamillary bodies [72-74]. Diffusion-weighted imaging (DWI) is abnormal in these areas as well [75,76]. The distribution of these findings is consistent with the pathologic lesions. (show radiograph 1 and show radiograph 2).

In one report comparing 15 patients with acute WE to 15 asymptomatic alcohol abusers and 15 controls, the sensitivity and specificity of MRI were 53 and 93 percent, respectively [48]. Other series have reported a higher prevalence of MRI abnormalities in patients with acute WE [72,77]. Abnormal T2 signal disappears within as little as 48 hours after treatment with thiamine [77].

Mamillary body atrophy is a relatively specific abnormality in patients with chronic lesions of WE [78]. A large decrease in the volume of the mamillary bodies can be identified by MRI in approximately 80 percent of alcohol abusers with a history of classic WE, and it is not found in controls, patients with Alzheimer's disease (AD), or alcohol abusers without a history of WE [78-80]. Mamillary body atrophy can be detected within one week of the onset of WE [77].

TREATMENT — The diagnosis of Wernicke's encephalopathy (WE) is difficult to confirm and, untreated, most patients progress to coma and death. Fortunately, intravenous administration of thiamine is safe, simple, inexpensive, and effective [81]. Adverse reactions, including anaphylaxis and bronchospasm are reported but are extremely rare; in the United Kingdom, there were four reported cases for every five million intramuscular doses used and one report for every one million intravenous doses used [82-85].

Diagnostic testing should not delay treatment; treatment should immediately follow consideration of the diagnosis.

For patients with suspected WE, we recommend 100 mg of thiamine intravenously or intramuscularly for five consecutive days. Administration of glucose without thiamine can precipitate or worsen WE; thus, thiamine should be administered before glucose. Because gastrointestinal absorption of thiamine is erratic in alcoholic and malnourished patients, oral administration of thiamine is an unreliable initial treatment for WE [34]. Some advocate higher doses of thiamine as more effective, but there is no evidence to conclusively support a recommendation of one dose over another [82,85-87].

Although dietary requirements for thiamine are only 1 to 2 mg daily, absorption and utilization of thiamine are incomplete, and some patients have genetically determined requirements for much larger doses [36,88]. Daily oral administration of 100 mg of thiamine should be continued after the completion of parenteral treatment and after discharge from the hospital until patients are no longer considered at risk. Magnesium and other vitamins are replaced as well, along with other nutritional deficits if present.

By establishing a sufficiently low threshold for treatment, all patients with WE will receive thiamine, including those whose diagnosis is unsuspected. For practical purposes, all patients with undiagnosed altered mental status, oculomotor disorders, or ataxia should receive parenteral thiamine.

CLINICAL COURSE AND PROGNOSIS — Prompt administration of thiamine leads to improvement in ocular signs within hours to days [1]. If ocular palsies fail to respond, other diagnoses should be considered. In one report, recovery of vestibular function began during the second week after thiamine treatment; improvement in gait ataxia coincided with recovery of vestibular function [51]. Confusion subsides over days and weeks. Signal abnormality on MRI resolves with clinical improvement [77,89]. This early therapeutic response likely represents the recovery from a biochemical rather than a structural lesion.

In the largest cohort of patients reported on, residual deficits were the rule [1]. While gaze palsies recovered completely in most cases, 60 percent had permanent horizontal nystagmus. Only about 40 percent recovered from ataxia; remaining deficits ranged from inability to walk at all to a wide-based slow shuffling gait. As the acute encephalopathy and confusion receded, deficits in learning and memory become more obvious; the latter recovered completely or substantively in only about 20 percent; the remainder had a permanent amnestic syndrome. (See "Overview of the chronic neurologic complications of alcohol", section on Korsakoff's amnestic syndrome").

Case reports suggest that prognosis may be less dismal [76]. One exceptional case reports near complete recovery in a severely affected patient whose treatment was delayed for four months [90].

PREVENTION — Wernicke's encephalopathy (WE) may be iatrogenically precipitated by glucose loading in patients with unsuspected thiamine deficiency [29]. To avoid this complication, it has become standard practice in emergency departments to administer thiamine prior to or along with glucose infusion.

The prevention of WE and Korsakoff's amnestic syndrome (KS) might be possible through the widespread oral administration of thiamine to outpatients at risk. Enrichment of flour with thiamine decreased the autopsy prevalence of WE in Australia [91]. There is also interest in whether preventing thiamine deficiency would also reduce the high prevalence of cognitive deficits in alcohol abusers without known episodes of WE [92]. The low cost and safety of oral thiamine argues for widespread supplementation in alcohol abusers and others at risk for developing thiamine deficiency. Fortification of alcoholic beverages has also been proposed.

SUMMARY AND RECOMMENDATIONS — Wernicke's encephalopathy (WE) and Korsakoff's amnestic syndrome (KS) are, respectively, acute and chronic brain disorders that result from thiamine deficiency.

WE is most often associated with alcoholism but can also occur in other situations including malnutrition from any cause (particularly at the time of refeeding) and in dialysis patients. (See "Associated conditions" above).
WE produces hemorrhagic necrosis in midline brain structures and corresponding deficits in mentation, oculomotor function, and gait ataxia. All three of these classic symptoms are present in only one-third of patients. Any one of these, but most often encephalopathy, may be seen in isolation. WE should be considered when one or more occur. (See "Clinical manifestations" above).
While laboratory measurements and neuroimaging are often abnormal in WE, the first imperative is to administer thiamine rather than confirm the diagnosis, whenever WE is considered. (See "Diagnosis" above).
Untreated, WE leads to coma and death. Prognosis is improved by prompt administration of thiamine. Whenever the diagnosis of WE is entertained, we recommend immediate parenteral administration of thiamine (Grade 1A). The usual dose is 100 mg intravenous (IV) or intramuscular (IM), repeated daily for five consecutive days. Oral thiamine and multivitamin supplementation are recommended thereafter as long as the patient remains at risk (Grade 1A). (See "Clinical course and prognosis" above).
WE may be precipitated by administration of intravenous glucose solutions to individuals with thiamine deficiency. In susceptible individuals glucose administration should be preceded or accompanied by thiamine 100 mg IV (Grade 1A). (See "Prevention" above).
Thiamine supplementation, along with other multivitamin supplementation, is recommended for patients at risk for thiamine deficiency. (See "Prevention" above).


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[Malaikah]

The idea of branding someones eyes is as barbaric as stoning.
Other prophets are not recorded as using torture before slaying people.

Noahs Ark? I suppose all the bad guys died before the flood happened? :?

What about all the plagues sent to the Egyptians during Moses time? I doubt that was fun way to die... :?

[doorster]

:sl:

He could say anaesthesia was administered beforehand:p

Anyhoo, what has he got to say about convicting people of capital crimes and instead of carrying out the execution the following morning, put them on death row for 10 or 20 years before gassing or electrocuting them.

Imagine the pain and agony of dying every day for 20 year, not knowing when the final hour is coming, can he see how "humane" that is?

[جوري]

Originally Posted by barney
The idea of branding someones eyes is as barbaric as stoning.
Other prophets are not recorded as using torture before slaying people.

Noahs Ark? I suppose all the bad guys died before the flood happened? :?

What about all the plagues sent to the Egyptians during Moses time? I doubt that was fun way to die... :?

We have quoted an entire page worth of torture of women children and animals and villages, from the bible ( where he doesn't recall the"recording of such torture", if he has a point, he'd read a little before he writes to prevent himself from looking like a callous fool on almost every post. I just really think we'd all be better off just ignoring him!

:w: