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Ummu Sufyaan
06-22-2007, 05:45 AM
:sl: brothers ans sistres.
My inquiry is obviously about hamzatul wasl.
This is what i read in a book, which is called "Easy quran reading with baghdadi primer", by Moustafa El-gindy. (It is referring to Hamzat ul-wasl when it comes at the beginning of a word): Hamzat ul-Wasl "requires a kasrah if it comes at the start of a verb whose third letter does not have an original dhammah". Then it has some examples: One of them is:اقضوا (the alif at the end of the word has a sukoon on it, as in the alif which comes at the end of third person plurals-my comp dosn't have the symbol).

My questions are:
  • Why, when the rule states that Hamzat ul-Wasl requires a kasrah if the third letter is not an original dhammah, is there a dhammah on the third letter of the above example. i am thinking that because the dhammah on the third letter is followed by a madd letter (vowel), and we all know that the madd of waaw is preceeded by a dhammah and therefore it is necessary as the word wouldn't make sence. am i right in thinking this??
  • Does this rule only apply to verbs?
  • Does "whose third letter does not have an original dhammah" mean that a fathah or kasrah appear on the third letter?

anyways, i really need this.
jazakallahu khair
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Ummu Sufyaan
06-23-2007, 08:37 AM
:sl: brothers and sisters.

no one yet??

:sl:
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back_to_faith
06-24-2007, 10:39 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by maryam11
:sl:

My questions are:
  • Why, when the rule states that Hamzat ul-Wasl requires a kasrah if the third letter is not an original dhammah, is there a dhammah on the third letter of the above example. i am thinking that because the dhammah on the third letter is followed by a madd letter (vowel), and we all know that the madd of waaw is preceeded by a dhammah and therefore it is necessary as the word wouldn't make sence. am i right in thinking this??
  • Does this rule only apply to verbs?
  • Does "whose third letter does not have an original dhammah" mean that a fathah or kasrah appear on the third letter?

anyways, i really need this.
jazakallahu khair



Assalamoalikom

dear sister....

First:
It is a great pleasure to find sisters like you who eager to learn Standard Arabic.....really I appreciate you and your efforts..



second :

the rules of (Hamzat ul-Wasl ) as follows:

A) : what is the meaning in Arabic of (Hamzat ul-Wasl)?

(A hamza which could be used as a tool to utter a sukoon or the hamza of the linking )

B) (sukoon) means (neutral sound) or in other words, it is not pronounced

( dammah) means the sound (o) like in the word (root)
(fathah) means the sound (A)
(Kasrah) means the sound (I) as in (breed)



why we use (Hamzat ul-Wasl )?

in Arabic we usually can't start the word with uttering (sukoon),and we can't finish uttering the word with (Harakah) with (dammah or fathah or Kasrah)



so what if a (sukoon) occured in the beginning? well,then we must use a tool to be able to utter the (sukoon) which occured in the beginning of the word, and such tool is (Hamzat ul-Wasl ).


third:

regarding your question:
1-(Hamzat ul-Wasl ).can never occur with the verb of present tense...but usually with past tense
.

2-
Hamzat ul-Wasl requires a( Dammah) if the third letter is an original dhammah

{فَمَنْ اضْطُرَّ غَيْرَ بَاغٍ وَلا عَادٍ فَلا إِثْمَ عَلَيْهِ إِنَّ اللَّهَ غَفُورٌ رَحِيمٌ} سورة البقرة الآية: 173) .

{ادْعُ إِلَى سَبِيلِ رَبِّكَ بِالْحِكْمَةِ وَالْمَوْعِظَةِ الْحَسَنَةِ وَجَادِلْهُمْ بِالَّتِي هِيَ أَحْسَنُ إِنَّ رَبَّكَ هُوَ أَعْلَمُ بِمَنْ ضَلَّ عَنْ سَبِيلِهِ وَهُوَ أَعْلَمُ بِالْمُهْتَدِينَ} سورة النحل الآية: 125) .


3- Hamzat ul-Wasl requires a kasrah if the third letter is not an original dhammah(if it has Kasrah or fathah)


{اذْهَبْ إِلَي فِرْعَونَ إِنَّهُ طَغَى} (طه: 24)


{ارجع إليهم فلنأتينهم بجنود لا قبل لهم} (النمل : 37)




now we focus on the question:

we mentioned before that Hamzat ul-Wasl requires a( Dammah) if the third letter is an original dhammah



we have exception from the rule:

If the third letter is not original dammah, Hamzat ul-Wasl requires kasrah not dammah



example: the verb {اقضوا}

{وَاتْلُ عَلَيْهِمْ نَبَأَ نُوحٍ إِذْ قَالَ لِقَوْمِهِ يَا قَوْمِ إِنْ كَانَ كَبُرَ عَلَيْكُمْ مَقَامِي وَتَذْكِيرِي بِآيَاتِ اللَّهِ فَعَلَى اللَّهِ تَوَكَّلْتُ فَأَجْمِعُوا أَمْرَكُمْ وَشُرَكَاءَكُمْ ثُمَّ لا يَكُنْ أَمْرُكُمْ عَلَيْكُمْ غُمَّةً ثُمَّ اقْضُوا إِلَيَّ وَلا تُنْظِرُونِ} ( سورة يونس الآية:71 )

the third letter has not original dammah....it has it because it is followed by
the vowel (wa)( و) which is attached to the verb for the forming of plural......

the clear proof that the Dammah on the third letter is not original is that the verb in singular form ..follows the basic rule

Hamzat ul-Wasl requires a kasrah if the third letter is not an original dhammah(if it has Kasrah or fathah)

اقض


here the verb is sigular imperative and Hamzat ul-Wasl with kasrah because the third letter has kasrah....


your question:

Does "whose third letter does not have an original dhammah" mean that a fathah or kasrah appear on the third letter?


no ,no it means it has dammah ...but not original..as i explained above.....
for example the dammah due to changing the verb to plural etc.......



your question:

Does this rule only apply to verbs?

applies to most past tense forms and imperative ..but not present...

and with nouns usually Hamzat ul-Wasl requires a kasrah


examples:

افتراء

استكباراً

ابْنِي

ابْنَتَ

امْرَأَ

امْرَأَةٌ

اسْمَ

اثنين



Hope that helps

and any other questions ..ask me..


Allah bless
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Ummu Sufyaan
06-25-2007, 01:22 AM
:sl:
jazakallahu khair brother. that helped alot.

one other question though:
in the book it also states that the location of hamzatual wasl is in the ten names and the pair form of 7 of them. then it has a list which is:
ابن
ابنة
ابنم
ابنان
ابنتان
اثنان
اثنتان
امرؤ
امرأة
اسم
است
امرءان
امرأتان
اسمان
ايمن الله

what are the ten names here, seeing that there are fifteen words in the list and what are the 7 pair forms of them. i tried to figure out the pair form of them, but that left me with eight words, not ten.

so what am i not understanding here??

jazakallahu khair

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back_to_faith
06-25-2007, 06:18 AM
:sl:

the ten names are:


ابن
ابنة
ابنم

اثنان
اثنتان
امرؤ
امرأة
اسم
است


ايمن الله



the seven pair forms:


ابنان
ابنتان
اثنان
اثنتان
امرءان
امرأتان
اسمان




singular pair form


ابنان ابن




ابنتان ابنة




ابنم



اثنان
اثنتان







امرءان
امرؤ




امرأة
امرأتان



اسمان اسم





است



ايمن الله




If something not clear,just tell me...

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Ummu Sufyaan
06-25-2007, 12:18 PM
:sl:
jazakallahu khair brother.

that is it though.

:sl:
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asadxyz
06-27-2007, 02:08 AM
:sl:
What is the meaning of "ابنم" ??
:w:
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back_to_faith
06-27-2007, 11:48 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by asadxyz
:sl:
What is the meaning of "ابنم" ??
:w:


Good question

the word (ibnem) means the same as (Ibn)

ابن

which means (son)

the slight difference between them is that ,in (ibnem) the letter (meem) is added for the sake of the meaning of (high statue,majesty)

in other words ,just as in Hebrew ..the word Elohim
the same is done with the Arabic (ibnem)


to sum up:

(Ibn) means :son

(Ibnem) means : great son

بحسب المنجد في اللغة والأعلام، الابنم تعني "الابن والميم زائدة للمبالغة. وتتبع النون حركة الميم".

في اللغة العبرية هي للتعظيم وكانك تقول الابن العظيم - ابنم.
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Ummu Sufyaan
09-07-2007, 10:00 AM
:sl:
one other question. how is hamzatul-wasl pronouced when the third letter has a fathah on it, whether it be a noun or a verb.
:sl:
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adnanzhere
06-29-2013, 10:22 AM
Assala muwalaikum Dear Brothers and Sisters

I am a Non Arab muslim.I dont know which is verb and which is noun. is there any simple rules for me? regarding this issue (Hamzat Ul Wassl). Other wise recommended me a Easy Quran for me.The Ramadan is very close please reply as soon as possible.

Allah Hafez

May Allah bless the Admin of this website and all the other Brother and Sisters
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