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vorx
06-24-2007, 04:20 AM
Hello everyone,

I have a personal experience I want to share with you all. I have hyperhidrosis which is a condition that i go through every day. My hands and feet sweat because the theromostat in my sweat glands are malfunctioning. It is not stress related but probably a genetic disorder i grew up with. It doesnt happen everytime but it is bothersome because it impacts few things such as shaking hands and making first impression etc or using the keyboard. My sweating problem has no safe cures and there is a surgery available but alot of people regret being under the knife.

I noticed rescently after smoking cannabis my feet and hands do not sweat anymore. I feel so relaxed relieve so much negative energy. Cannabis helped my hyperhidrosis condition as much as my anger problems. I am aware of the envirenment even if i am under the drug but i am just more relaxed. Some say that drugs are bad, but trust me cannabis is beneficial.

I gained few pounds and look alot healthier with the increased appetite while smoking canabis. I tried digesting canabis while mixing them with cookies but i don't like the feeling because it makes you lazy and lasts for days. I believe if you evaporate canabis and just smell it without smoking it is even healthier for people who wish to add few pounds, relieve their stress and relax themselves from the daily frustrations.

Personaly i am over energetic and i need to calm down my temper and canabis helped me be more suggestive to others and better yet, myself. It is not as addictive as sugar trust me because it takes just one or two hits to be allset for a week.

I want to know your experiences with canabis ladies and gentlemen. Please don't bash me with "DRUGS ARE BAD GO TO REHAB" because i just listed few problems that this drug helped me deal with. I also read that even some H.I.V. and A.I.D.S. positive people favore canabis to ease their pain and increase their appetite


Thanks =)
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BanGuLLy
06-24-2007, 04:49 AM
I have or HAD hyperhydrosis... and it is genetics but I overpowered it by being more confident...and more optimistic...It happens when you're too nervous but u have to overcome that problem... My personal experience with smokin weed... hmm lol... Well I use to be a heavyyy smoker... Last summer I had ATLEAST 7 spliffs a day... and that was when I didn't have faith.. and through my experience.. I noticed I became dumber than usual... In grade 9 my average was 90%... Grade 10 I got my first car and started smoking weed... and my average dropped to 70%... Grade 11 My average dropped below 50.. and I got kicked out of school.. and I got arrested.. and thats when I changed my life around and became Religious and optimistic...and now I just finished grade 12 with an 80%... Notice how my mark went up after I stopped smoking weed... Its all peer pressure that gets you into these kinda stuff... and that doesnt happen to me anymore... I became a positive person and follow my own rules and beliefs.. Be more confident around people and you will overcome hyperhydrosis... Or go to a doctor and try to get that fixed.. They put like 50 + needles in ur hand to fix it .. so I didnt do it.. I just fixed it naturally...
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vorx
06-24-2007, 06:50 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Bangsta
go to a doctor and try to get that fixed.. They put like 50 + needles in ur hand to fix it .. so I didnt do it.. I just fixed it naturally...
I talked to my doctor about and he told to just live with it. The medicines for it cause so much side effects its crazy. Hyperhidrosis isn't about being nervous at all. My hands and feet sweat just by themselves when i am in the sofa watching a movie, or sitting outside my porch looking at people and the world.

Rescently i am not really frustrated at all. I am relaxed and it is summer time. Hyperhidrosis is still happening.

You just gotta be careful with cannabis. Unlike you i don't go beyong a second hits and i only take little puffs. I aint hardcore about it, and i don't let myself use the drug till the stupid level. Its great!
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BanGuLLy
06-24-2007, 07:00 AM
ye that use to happen to me too.. it happens sometimes when you get nervous...I remember I also had my feet sweatin when I was watchin a movie and on the couch.. I think its specific materials or also the temperature that triggers the sweat glands.. Anyways when I shake someones hand it doesn't sweat until like holding the hand for more than 10 seconds.. I hate it too man.. I use to hate it sooooo much... but you gotta live with what you get you know.. and I quit smoking weed... and still it doesnt happen much.. but I noticed it decreased a lot when I had more confidence... Anyways if you find out more about how to prevent it from happening plz post.. Ill do the same..
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BanGuLLy
06-24-2007, 07:02 AM
and I would advise you not to do drugs man.. its Haram.. but I have no right to tell you what to do because I do somethin worse than smoking weed...
I smoke cigarettes :( and tried quittin many times... but need serious help in quittin..
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vorx
06-24-2007, 07:19 AM
My friend was smoking cigs since he was 11 and now he is 21. He didn't smoke its been 2 weeks so far and we play basketball alot rescently. We play an average of 24 hours a week after work and it helped him a little. He always wants to smoke but i tell him that he can do better.

My friend also said that cannabis relaxes him. We always smoke it together and he is eating alot better since he stoped smoking cigs. He looks healthier during these 2 weeks and i wish he stops for real.

I tell him to not be a patriot at the same time. If you wish to smoke cigarettes, smoke one a day and it won't harm you as much. Go gradually and you will see some results.

I usually don't drink alcohol or smoke weed or cigarettes. I am very occasional and strict about it. Ive been introduced to cigarettes, alcohol and weed its been 4 years now and I never let myself go berzerk.

Trust me, it is alot better if you don't do anything at all and be a health freak. Take care of yourself and i know i am too under some peer pressure. I am young and i am stupid =)
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Woodrow
06-24-2007, 11:19 AM
:w:

There are a few things to consider before trying to convince people that cannabis is harmless and beneficial.


No matter what we think it is illegal in most countries. If it should be legal is beside the point, because while it is illegal a person using it is a criminal and violating the laws of the land.


I will agree that there is a likelihood that cannabis can be of some medical use for the management of some diseases. I have heard of much success of it being used for the treatment of Glaucoma, Pain control, and reduction of nausea caused by chemotherapy. The question should be at the time it is used is the condition it is being used for debilitating or life threatening, are there other treatments available?


Cannabis is not the harmless product some people are trying to lead us to believe. I don't believe in using scare tactics about the damage it can do. just some general points. A standard marijuana cigarette has about the same effect as a can of beer. Now, that is not such a physically damaging thing and doesn't seem to be very bad. However, if you can not justify the drinking of a can of beer, you may want to reconsider how you can justify the smoking of one cannabis cigarette. Vice versa, how can you justify the smoking of a cannabis cigarette and condemn the drinking of a can of beer? I believe that those of us who are Muslim should stop and look at the reality of why people smoke cannabis. In most cases it is because it "gets them high". It does cause a degree of drunkeness, can you justify that as being Halal?
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vpb
06-24-2007, 11:22 AM
Cannabis destroyes people's memory. They forget very quick !!!! This is enough to prove that it is a bad thing. Its harm overcomes its profit.
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Trumble
06-24-2007, 12:43 PM
I wouldn't disagree with Woodrow in general terms, although I do think cannabis is singled out to some degree principally because of the way it is taken. Many other otherwise illegal drugs (including heroin) are produced in medical tablet form and issued on prescription quite legally, although obviously their use is highly restricted and controlled. I see no reason why cannabis shouldn't be prescribed on the same basis.
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00:00
06-24-2007, 12:57 PM
i heard smoking cannabis gives u more confidence, and also you remember things from your past very clearly like when you were a child.

[QUOTE]Cannabis destroyes people's memory[/QUOTE

nah if you some too much than it does destory memory.

btw i dont smoke cannabis.
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Kittygyal
06-24-2007, 01:03 PM
[QUOTE=00:00;776428]i heard smoking cannabis gives u more confidence, and also you remember things from your past very clearly like when you were a child.

Cannabis destroyes people's memory[/QUOTE

nah if you some too much than it does destory memory.

btw i dont smoke cannabis.
Salamualikum.
Thats good you don't smoke cannabis proud of ya brother.

I did smoke cannabis in them days and trust me it does destroy your memory very quickly. Also it doesn't give you confidence but makes you lazy in doing things and you have lack of confidence in your self. You do things that you shouldn't be doing, you feel tired a lot and obviously it's an addicted drug which later by you will regret it cause gradually you will get pains like me i regret smoking and drinking etc... but i was not a Muslim then. Alhamdulillah i don't do them actions no more.

Ma'assalama
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00:00
06-24-2007, 01:12 PM
walakum salaam

Mashallah sis,happy for you you turned away from lifestyle. What bought you to Islam sis?

there may be some benifit from smoking cannabis, but the harm out weighs it.
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Kittygyal
06-24-2007, 01:15 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by 00:00
walakum salaam

Mashallah sis,happy for you you turned away from lifestyle. What bought you to Islam sis?

there may be some benifit from smoking cannabis, but the harm out weighs it.
Salamualikum.
In short cents i was interested in Islam and i have wrote my reversion story somewhere in this forum. I will look and send you it inshallah. :)

True, remember every actions you will be held upon.
Ma'assalama
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vpb
06-24-2007, 01:23 PM
[QUOTE]i heard smoking cannabis gives u more confidence, and also you remember things from your past very clearly like when you were a child.

Cannabis destroyes people's memory[/QUOTE

nah if you some too much than it does destory memory.

btw i dont smoke cannabis.
who smokes a little bit of cannabis??
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00:00
06-24-2007, 01:33 PM
In short cents i was interested in Islam and i have wrote my reversion story somewhere in this forum. I will look and send you it inshallah.
Subhanallah, they say that reverts make the best Muslims. And it's true, they do.

who smokes a little bit of cannabis?
some do man.
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vpb
06-24-2007, 01:35 PM
Quote:
who smokes a little bit of cannabis?
some do man.
I doubt.
but anyways bro, we know that in Islam whatever is haram in large quantity, is also haram in small quantity :).
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Kittygyal
06-24-2007, 01:37 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by 00:00
Subhanallah, they say that reverts make the best Muslims. And it's true, they do.
Salamualikum.
Brother we don't know Allah knows best because he judges one.
Anywho lets go back on cannabis.

I advice each and everyone who smokes,drinks etc... must take a move and stop before it's too late. Trust me it's hard but remember do it for your Lord and don't harm ya self.

Ma'assalama
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vpb
06-24-2007, 01:41 PM
:sl:

The biggest harm of Cannabis, is not of destroying the health, but it is the 'diploma' that moves you to the next stage of 'cocaine, heroin etc...'. Majority of people who consume heroin or any other hardcore type of drugs, started with cannabis.
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Kittygyal
06-24-2007, 01:43 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by vpb
:sl:

The biggest harm of Cannabis, is not of destroying the health, but it is the 'diploma' that moves you to the next stage of 'cocaine, heroin etc...'. Majority of people who consume heroin or any other hardcore type of drugs, started with cannabis.
Salamualikum.
True, Also it leads to many other drugs which is really bad and hard to leave. Gradually it will cause harm to others aswel.
Ma'assalama
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Woodrow
06-24-2007, 01:45 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Trumble
I wouldn't disagree with Woodrow in general terms, although I do think cannabis is singled out to some degree principally because of the way it is taken. Many other otherwise illegal drugs (including heroin) are produced in medical tablet form and issued on prescription quite legally, although obviously their use is highly restricted and controlled. I see no reason why cannabis shouldn't be prescribed on the same basis.
I would agree with you that as a medical drug there can be benefits from and it does not make any sense for it to not be legal as a prescription drug. I have no disagreement for properly used medication. I am against it being used unnecessarily and as a pleasure inducing drug. I am not opposed to people enjoying pleasures of this world, but not all pleasures are beneficial.

Yes, Cannabis does cause permanent brain damage. When I was doing my internship in a psychiatric hospital I did assessments on a large number of patients with cannabis induced psychosis, which resembled schizophrenia to a very large extent. I guess they was some benefit in that as it had opened the door to finding physical and genetic factors as the cause for schizophrenia and Bi-Polar disorder. As a result effective medications for both have been developed.


ACUTE SYMPTOMS OF CANNABIS PSYCHOSIS
International Classification of Diseases (ICD-10)

Often the combination of symptoms makes one suspicious that schizophrenia is present but at the same time there is an affective component. There may be the suspicion that the condition, either in part of whole, is feigned for reasons that are unclear because the pattern of symptoms do not fall easily into the usual criteria for psychosis. Drug taking is often denied, or the amount that is admitted by the patient is so little that one cannot say that this accounts for the current symptoms. Worse still, patients may not even consider Cannabis as an illicit or dangerous drug and so do not mention using it. Hallucinations are vague and delusions may be transitory with little in the way of thought disorder. There is often a lack of volition and a history of gradually deteriorating social ability and contact with others, including significant others. This history will often be verified by relatives and close friends who may be either completely ignorant of the drug taking, or confirm that there has been some in the past but believe that there has been little drug taking recently. There is often a depressive component with suicide attempts in the past but nothing recent or, if there is, then they are only ineffectual pleas for help. The person has usually lost his or her job some months or weeks before due to their poor performance at work. There is often very poor memory and concentration, which may be marked at the time of presentation. Paranoid delusions may be present and quite severe which can be the most alarming psychotic feature and result in hospital admission. If confronted with aggressive and authoritarian staff, who indicate verbally or non-verbally, that they do not believe the patient, the patient may become violent or simply leave against medical advice. There is a slow and gradual effect of cannabis and the symptoms continue to worsen for some time after the person stops using it. Thus by the time of presentation the person may be so disorganised and confused that they can’t even arrange their next “cone” or “joint”. Over the following few days the symptoms ease quickly. The improvement is easily credited to the neuroleptics and/or the antidepressants, which may in fact have contributed to the improvement. Symptoms such as the paranoia, hallucinations and depression fade until the patient is allowed to go on leave from the hospital and, a worsening of the symptoms may follow this. More often than not the nursing staff are the first to become suspicious that drugs have been taken when the patient is on leave from the hospital.

It could even be that the drug screen only indicated small dose drug taking or even absent. The International Classification of Disease indicates the following symptoms due to Cannabis.
If you have time I hope you will read the link for the full medical findings and permanent damage, resulting from even short term usage. You may then understand how come so many homeless and jobless people have a history of cannabis usage.

Source:http://www.priory.com/psych/cannabis.htm
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vorx
06-24-2007, 07:42 PM
Hi everyone,

Guess what?!?!?!

You overdose your body just by drinking water!

You can kill yourself if you eat too fast.

You can kill yourself if you stay under the sun the whole day.

Thats right!

Everything must be in moderation. I smoke two little puffs and i am good for a week. People just smoke cannabis like its a freaking meal.

I hate that.
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vpb
06-24-2007, 07:46 PM
Everything must be in moderation. I smoke two little puffs and i am good for a week. People just smoke cannabis like its a freaking meal.
quick summary

1. cannabis is not like food or water.
2. you can live without cannabis but you cannot live without water and food.
3. food and water doesn't destroy millions of cells, while cannabis does.
4. food and water doesn't damage u'r memory, while cannabis does.
5. you can't kill yourself by eating to fast. unless you choke yourself. still might live by calling the ambulance.
6. Cannabis is not water or food or sun.
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vorx
06-24-2007, 08:02 PM
Hi everyone, VPB

I agree with you. Concider this too. Water is necessary no matter what. Food such as milk, cheese, oil, fats, meat, wheat and all sorts in the pyramid are necessary too.

Some people are vegetarians and don't eat red meat at all. Red meat is proven to be hard to digest and it is not good for you. I am not that health freak freak, but ask anyone what is better fish or red meat...

Kids love candy it makes them hyper thats why it is bad for them. They sugar and they get crazy running wild in the house and destroying stuff.

Cannabis is supplement. It is not food and must be treated as a supplement only. You have a certain amount of cannabis according to what you want to do with it. You can have alot of it and it gets you high and stupid. Or you can have a little bit and it just relaxes you. You feel good, you can go out and be confident. You eat a lot better and you can also deal with memories that still bothers you.

Cannabis is a drug for the mind. It doesnt necessarily make you dumb for the rest of your life, I know many Moroccan who smoke hash only and are healthy as horses. They are over the age of 70 and been smoking hash since they were kids.

Do you research and try for yourself. If you don't want to try at all, you can't argue at all.
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vpb
06-24-2007, 08:07 PM
I agree with you. Concider this too. Water is necessary no matter what. Food such as milk, cheese, oil, fats, meat, wheat and all sorts in the pyramid are necessary too.

Some people are vegetarians and don't eat red meat at all. Red meat is proven to be hard to digest and it is not good for you. I am not that health freak freak, but ask anyone what is better fish or red meat...

Kids love candy it makes them hyper thats why it is bad for them. They sugar and they get crazy running wild in the house and destroying stuff.
From food everything is good, unless you have too much.
Candies are also good, they contain sugar, if u take to much, and have them instead of eating proper food, than of course it's bad.


Cannabis is supplement. It is not food and must be treated as a supplement only. You have a certain amount of cannabis according to what you want to do with it. You can have alot of it and it gets you high and stupid. Or you can have a little bit and it just relaxes you. You feel good, you can go out and be confident. You eat a lot better and you can also deal with memories that still bothers you.
:) dude, its harm overcomes it's profit :)

Cannabis is a drug for the mind. It doesnt necessarily make you dumb for the rest of your life, I know many Moroccan who smoke hash only and are healthy as horses. They are over the age of 70 and been smoking hash since they were kids.
as I said before, it's not much about the harm physicaly, as is harm for being used as a 'diploma' to make u pass on the next stage of more dangerous drugs.

Do you research and try for yourself. If you don't want to try at all, you can't argue at all.
I don't have to do research. and I wouldn't spend time on doing that.
If cannabis would have been a good thing, the West would have made it legal everywhere.

arguing that cannabis in small quantity is good, is same as the argument of saying that whine is good for kidnies. We don't consume such things in Islam, and we don't need to. Allah swt has provided us with halal food and drinks that we can have. It is enough for us.
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vorx
06-24-2007, 08:15 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by vpb
:) dude, its harm overcomes it's profit :)

That depends on how much you do.

as I said before, it's not much about the harm physicaly, as is harm for being used as a 'diploma' to make u pass on the next stage of more dangerous drugs.

I Smoked cannabis for four years and never did any other drug. I know many others who are not even interested in doing crack/heroin/ lsd/ acid/cocaine etc...

the West would have made it legal everywhere.

When it comes to legalizing things, so much politics are involved. Stem cell isnt legalized in the U.S. but is some European countries. Why? Why not?
The government only wants its slice of the profit whenever money is involved. They sell you cigarettes and alcohol and it is so much worse than cannabis. Cannabis grows naturally unlike tobacco and alcohol.


Allah swt has provided us with halal food and drinks that we can have. It is enough for us.

I agree. Allah also provides people with sicknesses sometimes. You cure sicknesses with elements in the earth. Cannabis is one.

You have a migrane. You swallow a painkiller pill. Guess what? Its bad for your liver. Any pill you swallow is bad for your liver. Any drug is bad for you. You gotta decide whether you want it or not. Simple
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vpb
06-24-2007, 08:19 PM
I agree. Allah also provides people with sicknesses sometimes. You cure sicknesses with elements in the earth. Cannabis is one.
I don't know if cannabis would be allowed outside in the body to be used for healing (not consuming it).
But cannabis is not the only thing you can use to heal yourself. there are plenty of other things.

You have a migrane. You swallow a painkiller pill. Guess what? Its bad for your liver. Any pill you swallow is bad for your liver. Any drug is bad for you. You gotta decide whether you want it or not. Simple
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vorx
06-24-2007, 08:21 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by vpb
I don't know if cannabis would be allowed outside in the body to be used for healing (not consuming it).
But cannabis is not the only thing you can use to heal yourself. there are plenty of other things.



Healing with the Medicine of the Prophet



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Healing with the Medicine of the Prophet is the panacea for those in search of good health. Although it was written by the author, Ibn Al-Qayyim, over six hundred and fifty years ago, it is extremely timely work for our generation in which health and natural health care products have become an important aspect of the lives of so many. The author presents the guidance of the Prophet in dealing with a variety of health issues, including treatment of ailment and preventive remedies to keep the body fit. As the Qur'an and Sunnah are the main sources of Islamic lifestyle, it only stands to reason that they should likewise be referred to in the matters of health and fitness. This is the approach taken by Ibn Al-Qayyim as he presents Verses of the Qur'an and statements of the Prophet as his main reference in these issues of health and medicines. The final chapters the this work include an extremely beneficial glossary of remedies, herbs, foods and other natural substances that aid in the journey towards better health.




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Wow nice. Is that book also available in libraries?

I'd like to read it when i am in bed =)
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unknown_JJ
06-24-2007, 09:28 PM
very interstin thread ! hmm
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vpb
06-25-2007, 04:59 AM
Wow nice. Is that book also available in libraries?

I'd like to read it when i am in bed =)
You don't read when you go to bed. You go to sleep. :p



you can buy it here:

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it's only $13.95
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smile
07-02-2007, 01:16 PM
hmm
I didn't know we had quite a lot of druggies on this forum! lol

(i'm joking don't take me too seriously)
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