Islam vs. Science, Are Muslim beliefs compatible with critical inquiry?

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Here is a very interesting article you will be interested in reading. It points out how "Islam's golden age of science" is covered in western history textbooks and that "The scientific spirit seemed to die almost completely" toward the end of the 13th century.

At one time Islam and science worked very well together. This proves that science is not a threat to the religion. Yet, something happened. That golden age of science ended. I would like to see it brought back again. But how?

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/070902/10islam_print.htm

This story appears in the September 10, 2007 print edition of U.S. News & World Report.

Islam vs. Science
Are Muslim beliefs compatible with critical inquiry? A new study is sparking debate


By Jay Tolson
Posted 9/2/07

Almost every standard world history textbook celebrates Islam's golden age of science. Between the ninth and 13th centuries, Muslim scholars not only translated the great works of Greek medicine, mathematics, and science but also pushed the frontiers of discovery in all of those areas. They improved and named algebra, refined techniques of surgery, advanced the study of optics, and charted the heavens. Then, toward the end of the 13th century, something mysterious happened: The scientific spirit seemed to die almost completely.

Today, most predominantly Muslim countries benefit daily from the fruits of science and technology, and most of the leaders of these nations at least pay lip service to the importance of scientific education. Arab analysts, in recent U.N.-backed reports on the deplorable state of human development in 22 Arab countries, have consistently called for more robust support for "knowledge acquisition" as a crucial step toward catching up with other regions of the world.


Lagging behind.

Yet according to the distinguished Pakistani scientist Pervez Amirali Hoodbhoy, chair of the physics department at Quaid-i-Azam University in Islamabad, the news from the Islamic world is not very encouraging. And if his report in the August issue of Physics Today is accurate, it seems that not only science but the critical reasoning that undergirds it is in a precarious state.

Hoodbhoy marshals an array of data to demonstrate that the commitment to real scientific study and research in Muslim nations still lags far behind international averages.

For example, the 57 nations of the Organization of the Islamic Conference can boast only 8.5 scientists per 1,000 population, while the world average is 40.7. Of the lowest national producers of scientific articles in 2003, half are members of the OIC. The OIC countries spend about 0.3 percent of their gross national product on research and development, in contrast to the global average of 2.4 percent.

Some Muslim nations have recently boosted such spending, but throwing money at the problem is no good unless it is used by well-educated professionals who are capable of quality work. And so far, evidence of such quality is lacking. Of the approximately 1,800 universities in OIC nations, only 312 publish journal articles, and no OIC university was included in the top 500 of the "Academic Ranking of World Universities" that was produced by Shanghai Jiao Tong University.

Beyond the data, Hoodbhoy's more unsettling observations bear on the culture and attitudes that prevail in much of the Islamic world, even in those citadels of study that are receiving more funding. To say that intellectual freedom is restricted is, as Hoodbhoy tells it, an understatement. His own university, ranked second among OIC academic institutions, has three mosques on its campus but not one bookstore. Like all other Pakistani universities, it barred a Nobel-winning Pakistani physicist from campus because he belonged to a Muslim sect that the government had deemed heretical.

And that's not all. Films, theater, and music are viewed as impious pursuits by religious zealots, some of whom physically attack students who participate or show an interest in those forms of cultural expression. The atmosphere of intimidation has become so menacing, in Hoodbhoy's view, that students in general have become more timid and passive in the classroom.


Heresy.

Throughout the Muslim world, there is a widespread suspicion that science is heresy—or at least those parts of science that cannot be used, or twisted, to support literalist interpretations of Islamic scriptures. Needless to say, this suspicion has received support from other varieties of religious fundamentalism, including the Christian and Hindu ones.

Some modern scholars make a more serious intellectual argument for the compatibility of science and traditional Islamic thought. And those thinkers believe that ignorance of an Islamically based understanding of science is what really impedes its pursuit in the contemporary Muslim world.

One of the more articulate proponents of that position is the Iranian-born philosopher of science Seyyed Hossein Nasr, a professor of Islamic studies at George Washington University and the author of, among other books, Science and Civilization in Islam. Educated at MIT and Harvard, Nasr has long argued that Islamic science must be understood "not as a chapter in the history of western science, but as an independent way of looking at the work of nature." Nasr insists that traditional Muslim scientists never went the way of Descartes and Newton in reducing the physical world to its material and mechanistic aspects. Nor did Muslims accept that humans can know this world with certainty only through its quantifiable properties. Instead, traditional Muslim scientists held that a full understanding of nature also required seeing its parts as signs of divine purpose. Furthermore, Nasr holds, this approach to science did not die at the end of the 13th century but inspired work in fields such as medicine through the 16th and 17th centuries.

But change did come during the colonial period. Not only did Europeans impose their approach to science on Muslim elites, but many Muslim reformers themselves advocated the adoption of modern science as the best means of catching up with the West. Yet in their zeal, Nasr says, these reformers carelessly tossed aside the rich perspectives of traditional Islamic thought for more streamlined—and often more literalist—approaches to sacred teaching. "This effort didn't go very far," Nasr says, "because instead of being integrated into Islamic culture, the science was merely tacked on."

Nasr's call for an Islamic approach to modern science has no shortage of critics who see it as spurious (and as politically correct) as appeals for Indian science, Chinese science, or even feminist science. But even scholars who acknowledge that culture may have some effect on how people conceive the practice of science say that, finally, certain standards of scientific practice must be upheld, whether the work is being done in Bombay or Beirut.

And the real problem in most of the Islamic world, Hoodbhoy insists, is an "unresolved tension between traditional and modern modes of thought and social behavior." Muslims who embrace uncritical literalism cannot embrace the scientific method, which requires that facts and hypotheses be tested heedless of any established authority. Hoodbhoy sums up the problem eloquently:

"If the scientific method is trashed, no amount of resources or loud declarations of intent to develop science can compensate. In those circumstances, scientific research becomes, at best, a kind of cataloging or 'butterfly-collecting' activity. It cannot be a creative process of genuine inquiry in which bold hypotheses are made and checked."
 
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You'll find every society had a golden age of science at one point or another. From my own studies, when the society shifts toward a more 'moral and religious way of life' is when the it starts to decline and eventually get conquered.

History is funny that way :D
 
I don't think society has shifted towards a moral and religious way of life, rather they went away - hence the decline.

Islam, back then, is so different to today - in terms of how people practice it. People of those days would be ashamed of muslims these days, as a whole.
 
I don't think society has shifted towards a moral and religious way of life, rather they went away - hence the decline.

Islam, back then, is so different to today - in terms of how people practice it. People of those days would be ashamed of muslims these days, as a whole.

perhaps, perhaps not for the reasons you may think.
 
Yep, thats an assumption true, but I do believe the article has somewhat of a flaw - Muslims arn't even close to the level of faith people had back then, which is a shame. With weak faith, comes weak actions, heck muslims are taught that many of lifes problems today should not be pointed at others to be blamed - as you can see happens - but rather themselves for letting it happen. So yes, alot of different ideologoy, but generally, the article seems to be off-tangent in representing the religious correlation to science.
 
so do you think muslims discoveries should be stated

discoveries by muslims.

or

discoveries by humans that just so happen to be muslim?

or

discoveries by humans
 
A muslim = human, I don't see the point here? If a muslim happened to discover it, so be it. If a Christian or Atheist did, so be it. I don't see the big deal on how its portrayed to be honest. I can see muslims being proud of acheivements by muslims and may say it as discovered by muslims, as we have black history month celebrating acheivements by black people :), I don't see the harm.
 
A muslim = human, I don't see the point here? If a muslim happened to discover it, so be it. If a Christian or Atheist did, so be it. I don't see the big deal on how its portrayed to be honest. I can see muslims being proud of acheivements by muslims and may say it as discovered by muslims, as we have black history month celebrating acheivements by black people :), I don't see the harm.

i personally see it as a form of seperatism. It also seems to be paraded that because they were muslim they made these discoveries.
 
i personally see it as a form of seperatism. It also seems to be paraded that because they were muslim they made these discoveries.

Meh, then similarly I could see black history month as seperation - but I don't o_O.
 
I heard never somebody saying, that 'The christian Bill Gates created WINDOWS'

I guess that resumes it all
 
ah it would be true if bill gate declared himself a christian but he doesn't.. Most Muslim scientists claim their achivements in the name of God and Islam, if that is what they want to be called, then that is what should be honored..
peace!
 
ah it would be true if bill gate declared himself a christian but he doesn't.. Most Muslim scientists claim their achivements in the name of God and Islam, if that is what they want to be called, then that is what should be honored..
peace!

oh shocking ! You're even right. After some research on the web, I found out that Bill Gates is an Atheist, who doesn't believe in the existence of a higher being.
OH DRAMA !! Since Bill Gates earns 225 US Dollar per second, it means that most muslims here on the net having WINDOWS as OS support him, an Atheist.

Now let's see, where are the Atheist Bashers?
 
no no, you have completly taken it out of proportion. how could we have supported an atheist when we didn't even know he was one.
 
pfffffffff... ok, so now you know, will you put your copy of Windows now to the trashcan?
I suggest you LINUX !
 
Very interesting comments!

The last part of the article that snakelegs found is encouraging. It seems to express how I feel about science and religion, that science is compatible with religion.

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ABewley/darkness.html

What is needed now is a new growth of Islam completely distinct from any discrete form that Islam has taken in the past. We have to bring out a new growth of Islam from the very texture of our own time, an expression of Islam that will embrace and encompass and absorb and transform the classical tradition of Greece and the European tradition I have been talking about which has now reached to the point where it is once more potentially open to Divine Guidance.
We cannot go back to the Book and the Sunna. This would suggest that Allah's Book is a historical document, something from the distant past and that the Sunna was like an ancient suit of armour. The Qur'an is the uncreated word of Allah, outside space and time. We must rediscover the ayats in the present, reflect on them anew, seek out their light and energy and make them our springboard for the re-establishment of Allah's guidance. The Sunna is the archetypal record of how human perfection, in the person of the Prophet, salla'llahu 'alayhi wa sallam, turned divine guidance into a living reality and how he and his Companions, radiya'llahu 'anhum ajma'in, transformed themselves and their situation. To follow the Sunna, we must discover something of the qualities of the Prophet in ourselves, transform ourselves in the way the Companions did, transform our situation as they did theirs. In other words, we must go forwards to the Book and Sunna, not back to them. The people of our time need Islam freshly cooked, not reheated. We must have the thing itself not an imitation. Nothing else will do.

This is certainly not a task for the faint-hearted. It will require great courage, total commitment and absolute trust in Allah. What is needed is a new generation of Muslims who have jettisoned their pre-conceptions of Islam, new men and women ready and able to face the challenge of this new age, capable of transforming themselves and the society they live in, capable of breaking out of the enslaving enchantment of the modernist perspective with its illusory shadow-show politics and real economic domination, able to grasp the opportunities opened up by the new world view, determined to establish Allah's deen anew in all its simplicity and splendour. It is quite clear that the way is open and that there is no alternative course of action possible and if we do not take it on ourselves there are certainly other people who will.

Of course, science is not a religion. Or is based upon divine revelation. Science only explains how things in the natural world work and requires scientific evidence to explain things. And scientists cannot accept scripture as evidence or else science becomes a new religion, and none of us want that to happen.

If it were true that science (how things work) was incompatible with religion then knowing how anything works would be evil. Therefore it would be heresy to know how to fix a broken toaster, or know how to run electric wires in a home, or how a computer works.

It looks like we are back where we started, knowing that Islam and science can work together. And still have the problem of it not working now. Are there any "new generation of Muslims who have jettisoned their pre-conceptions of Islam, new men and women ready and able to face the challenge of this new age" that can explain what it is that needs to change?
 
pfffffffff... ok, so now you know, will you put your copy of Windows now to the trashcan?
I suggest you LINUX !

yep, sure will. or atleast my brother is in the middle of setting up ubuntu. but way before it was found out that bill gates was an atheist. oh btw, if bill gates works help muslims to propogate islam, im all for it. couldn't care less what the guys religion was.
 
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I'm unable to see what the religion of Bill Gates has to do with Islam's golden of science, so I'll assume that this is a demonstration of some kind that helps explain why that golden age came to an end.
 
I'm unable to see what the religion of Bill Gates has to do with Islam's golden of science, so I'll assume that this is a demonstration of some kind that helps explain why that golden age came to an end.

;D :hmm: Sorry for deviating from the original topic (I blame Guyabano :mad:) :( :-[ :hiding:

I agree with Md Mashud. The Zeal to follow Islam has dimished, as a result maybe due to the fruits of the success from the golden age. The people before wanted to contribute to society as much as possible for the benefit of mankind, something which is pleasing to Allah(SWT), and seeking Knowledge has always been emphasised by Islam.

http://www.themodernreligion.com/misc/edu/edu_seek.htm
 
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