Death penalty????

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Do you guys believe introducing the death penalty to certain Countries would reduce the amount of (serious) crimes? I have discussed this topic many times in class, and without doubt everyone including most of the teachers thought introducing the death penalty (in my case UK) would bring more bedlam!
 
I am a strong advocate of the death penalty..
they have just removed it again from the state of NJ.. you know that baby killer and rapist that tortured and murdered poor young megan


he now gets a roof over his head and three square meals a day for the rest of his life from your tax money.. you know while homeless folks are still dying in the winter with no shelter, a convicted child molestor and murderer gets to get away with his murder..

please think of her last moments with this animal and of her parents, the next time you are convinced that the death penalty is cruel and barbaric!
 
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Defo - especially in the case of re-offenders. Though only for serious crimes like murder and rape.
 
wilberhum said:
IMHO The death penalty is not much of a deterrent.


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i dont no where to obtain stats from, wait till any of the wiser brother/sister speaks, but in britian since they disallowed the death penalty the (serious)crimes without a doubt increased..

I would like ur opinion to why u dont want the death penalty(i assume) thanks..
 
Hamada said:
i dont no where to obtain stats from, wait till any of the wiser brother/sister speaks, but in britian since they disallowed the death penalty the (serious)crimes without a doubt increased..

I would like ur opinion to why u dont want the death penalty(i assume) thanks..
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Good grief. You need reading between the lines training.
The fact that I don't think it isn't a deterrent does not mean I'm against it.
I'm kind of a "fence sitter" on this one.
On one hand, killing people is no way to teach people not to kill people.
On the other hand, vengeance is sweet.
 
I think people can better understand the ramifications of a child molestor getting away with his crime when they have a little one of their own.. imagine your little girl playing outside in the sun and some ******* takes her, rapes and sodmoizes her, kills her and dumps her in the trash like she were an animal or even worst.. pls try to picture that happening to a little person you love.. maybe then one can understand this need others have for justice and for safer neighborhoods!

peace
 
wilberhum said:
Good grief. You need reading between the lines training.The fact that I don't think it isn't a deterrent does not mean I'm against it.
I'm kind of a "fence sitter" on this one.
On one hand, killing people is no way to teach people not to kill people.
On the other hand, vengeance is sweet.
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can u tell me what u mean by that? thanks
 
^^ it means he is undecided!
can formulate an argument both for and against!

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Hamada said:
can u tell me what u mean by that? thanks
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You don't understand "Reading between the lines"?
That means thinking what a person says implies they also are saying some thing else.
I said it isn't a deterrent and you assumed I was against it. But I never said that. You need lessens on "Reading between the lines" because you were wrong in your assumption.
 
Hamada said:
i dont no where to obtain stats from, wait till any of the wiser brother/sister speaks, but in britian since they disallowed the death penalty the (serious)crimes without a doubt increased..
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They have also increased in similar fashion in countries (or US States) that retained it.

In my opinion we have just seen too many cases over the years where the innocent were convicted or, more frequently, convinctions were unsound. In considering the feeling of victims and their relatives one must also consider the torment of someone sitting in Death Row, or at the moment of execution, for a crime they did not commit . Talk of the 'worst cases' and 'when you are absolutely sure' is nonsense.. where do you draw the line? The case needs to be proven beyond 'reasonable doubt' to convict at all, you can hardly tell a convicted murderer that he is sentenced to life imprisonment but that the Court isn't certain enough he did it to order his execution.
 
Z.AL-Rashid said:
Yes we need the death penalty and the correct application of it.

http://www.rainn.org/statistics/

Just look at those sick stats, some Yes we need the death penalty and the correct application of it. ....
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Just look at those sick stats, some people have no fear of the consequences of their actions

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Yes we need the death penalty and the correct application of it.
So why do we need the death penalty if people have no fear of the consequences of their actions?
If you don't think it is a deterrent do you just want vengeance?

You really have me confused. :muddlehea
 
That is a logical fallacy on many different levels, but I only care to point out one error as I am in need for dindin
punishment is made to fit the crime not only so as to make an example to others who may or may not fear consequence.

If your son steals your wallet, gambles using your credit cards, so that you and yours end up in debt, do you punish him to make an example to your others kids who may too be suffering from kleptomania or so he may suffer and pay for his actions?

cheers
 
Death penalty hasnt decreased number of crimes.

All it is, is a taxpayer sinkhole.
 
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wilberhum said:
Just look at those sick stats, some people have no fear of the consequences of their actions

and
Yes we need the death penalty and the correct application of it.
So why do we need the death penalty if people have no fear of the consequences of their actions?
If you don't think it is a deterrent do you just want vengeance?
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They do not fear the consequences the Law enforces for those crimes however the possibility of death may change their mind. Of course the punishment has to fit the crime hence the correct application is required.
 
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