Some Wrong fatwa’s that contradicts with the verses of Quran & Sunna

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I decided to make this article to give an Advice to every Muslim as the prophet (peace be upon him) said :

In the book of sahih Muslim:
narrated on the authority of Tamim ad-Dari that the Apostle of Allah (may peace and blessings be upon him) observed: Al-Din is a name of sincerity and well wishing. Upon this we said: For whom? He replied: For Allah, His Book, His Messenger and for the leaders and the general Muslims.

And before I begin I must set up some basics which are :

Originally to talk and mention someone behind his back is considered forbidden and it is known as being “Gheiba” Backbiting as in the hadith :

In the book of sahih Muslim:
Chapter : The prohibition of backbiting.

Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: Do you know what is backbiting? They (the Companions) said: Allah and His Messenger know best. Thereupon he (the Holy Prophet) said: Backbiting implies your talking about your brother in a manner which he does not like. It was said to him: What is your opinion about this that if I actually find (that failing) in my brother which I made a mention of? He said: If (that failing) is actually found (in him) what you assert, you in fact backbited him, and if that is not in him it is a slander.

But there are six exceptional cases which it is allowed to do Backbiting “Gheiba”
See this link for detailed explanation from the book of Riyad-us-Saliheen by imam an-nawawi
http://www.witness-pioneer.org/vil/hadeeth/riyad/17/chap256.htm

one of this cases is to warn the Muslims from someone who commits innovations or speaks wrongly speeches concerning the Islamic laws.

And I would like to say that I will not speak about any scholar unless I know that some of the trusted scholars already has speaked and warned about this him. Because otherwise as the scholars say that “the flesh of the scientist are poisoned”


Many times I meet some Muslims and I find them having wrong thoughts as some one told me before “that he ask multiple scholar for fatwas and then he choose whatever fatwa he likes” and that is surely wrong doing and it’s a prohibited act.

Its like doing as the Jews and Christians do, as the following verse in the Quran was explained by the prophet :

In the Quran meaning translation (two translations) :

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YUSUFALI: They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords in derogation of Allah, and (they take as their Lord) Christ the son of Mary; yet they were commanded to worship but One Allah: there is no god but He. Praise and glory to Him: (Far is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him).

PICKTHAL: They have taken as lords beside Allah their rabbis and their monks and the Messiah son of Mary, when they were bidden to worship only One Allah. There is no Allah save Him. Be He Glorified from all that they ascribe as partner (unto Him)!


And here is what the prophet said about this verse (I didn’t find a translation so I will do my best):

In the book of sunan al-tirmidhi the chapter of explanation of the Quran and sheikh Al-albany said this hadith is authentic:

narrated on the authority Adi bin Hatem said :I came to the prophet - may Allah’s mercy and peace be upon him - and in my neck there was a necklace (collar) of a golden cross so the prophet said:” O adi, throw away this idol” then I heard him reciting the verse of the Quran in sorat bara`a (another name of surat alTawba , and the companion Adi is referring to the previous verse 009.031 that I have quoted) then the prophet said they where not worshipping their rabbis and their monks but they were obeying them even when they make a prohibited thing as lawful or when they make an allowed thing as prohibited.

So we Muslims must seek the right knowledge and be careful while seeking this knowledge to make sure we are really walking in the right path because as the prophet said :

my community will be split up into seventy-three sects. (in the book of Hadith of Abu Dawud ,Tirmidhi and Musnad Imam Ahmed ,and the shiekh Alalbany mentioned this Hadith in his Authentic Hadith book)

and we all want to be from among the good sect and we want to be as the prophet and his companions used to be.

And concerning the fatwa ,there is a very important law that the scholars of FiQh say which is :

Do Not do an Igtihad (making a fatwa) that is against the verses of Quran and sunna.

And any one that does that is contradicting with the infallible verses and texts of Allah and his messenger.

And as we know there are two conditions for any deed to be right and accepted which are :

1- is to be a good deed with the following of the prophet muhammad (or else it will be bid`a or inventioned )

in the book of sahih muslim:
Chapter : Rejecting of the wrong things and the innovations (in religion).
Narated By 'Aisha said that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: He who does any act for which there is no sanction from our behalf, that is to be rejected.


2- is to the deed to be clearly and sincerely FOR Allah's sake not for any thing else (you can realize it in the first Hadith mentioned in Authentic Sahih Bukhary) it says:

Narated By 'Umar bin Al-Khattab : I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "The reward of deeds depends upon the intentions and every person will get the reward according to what he has intended. So whoever emigrated for worldly benefits or for a woman to marry, his emigration was for what he emigrated for.

So I will start soon by mentioning those wrong fatwas and the verses of the Quran and sunna that shows the right Islamic law.

 
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*puts hands together and says .. interresstinggg* :p


like you said ppl take diff fatwas and accept the one they like, thats wrong. ppl should accept the fatwa that is in accordance wit Quran & sunnah.

also nowadays ppl have their favorite scholars and jus follow them, which again i think is wrong:D we sud b more open minded and accept the view which is in accordance wit sharia:D

good post thou
 
chacha_jalebi said:
*puts hands together and says .. interresstinggg* :p


like you said ppl take diff fatwas and accept the one they like, thats wrong. ppl should accept the fatwa that is in accordance wit Quran & sunnah.

also nowadays ppl have their favorite scholars and jus follow them, which again i think is wrong:D we sud b more open minded and accept the view which is in accordance with sharia:D

good post thou
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jazak allah khayran brother

and you are right in what you said but i will add that muslims should take into consideration the following hadeeth that came in both Bukhary and Muslim:


Narated By An-Nu'man bin Bashir : I heard Allah's Apostle saying, 'Both legal and illegal things are evident but in between them there are doubtful (suspicious) things and most of the people have no knowledge about them. So whoever saves himself from these suspicious things saves his religion and his honor. And whoever indulges in these suspicious things is like a shepherd who grazes (his animals) near the Hima (private pasture) of someone else and at any moment he is liable to get in it. (O people!) Beware! Every king has a Hima and the Hima of Allah on the earth is His illegal (forbidden) things. Beware! There is a piece of flesh in the body if it becomes good (reformed) the whole body becomes good but if it gets spoilt the whole body gets spoilt and that is the heart.


In addition, we all know what the Quran said about the prophet (P.B.U.H):

Nor doth he speak of (his own) desire. (53.3) it is naught but revelation that is revealed to him (53.4)
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With clear arguments and scriptures; and We have revealed to you the Remembrance that you may make clear to mankind what hath been revealed to them, and that haply they may reflect. (16.44)
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Whoever obeys the Messenger, he indeed obeys Allah, and whoever turns back, so We have not sent you as a keeper over them. (4.80)



 
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It is so bad when I hear some people and scholars denying an authentic Hadeeth even if it is in Sahih Bukhary & Muslim, although the specialized scholars of Hadith such as IBN HAGGAR AL-ASKALANY said in his book of explaining the science of Hadith “the Muslim scientists have agreed to accept the authenticity of their books (the books of Bukhary & Muslim)”

So here are some authentic Hadeeth that has been wrongly denied by some scholars (sheikh yusuf alQaradawi rejected the following hadith’s only by his opinion in some of his books):

First Hadith in sahih Muslim:

Chapter: He who died with unbelief would be (thrown) into the Fire, intercession would be of no avail to him and the relationship of his favourites would not benefit him.

Anas reported: Verily, a person said: Messenger of Allah, where is my father? He said: (He) is in the Fire. When he turned away, he (the Holy Prophet) called him and said: Verily my father and your father are in the Fire.


Second Hadith in both Bukhary and muslim:

Narated By Abu Said Al-Khudri : Allah's Apostle said, "On the Day of Resurrection Death will be brought forward in the shape of a black and white ram. Then a call maker will call, 'O people of Paradise!' Thereupon they will stretch their necks and look carefully. The caller will say, 'Do you know this?' They will say, 'Yes, this is Death.' By then all of them will have seen it. Then it will be announced again, 'O people of Hell !' They will stretch their necks and look carefully. The caller will say, 'Do you know this?' They will say, 'Yes, this is Death.' And by then all of them will have seen it. Then it (that ram) will be slaughtered and the caller will say, 'O people of Paradise! Eternity for you and no death O people of Hell! Eternity for you and no death."' Then the Prophet, recited:

'And warn them of the Day of distress when the case has been decided, while (now) they are in a state of carelessness (i.e. the people of the world) and they do not believe.' (19.39)

That is enough for today...

However, it is useful to mention that basically to judge on a certain Hadith you must have a good knowledge of the ISNAD Science.

And definitely Imam Bukhary and Muslim did have a very good knowledge on the various sciences of the Hadith.


 



I seek refuge in Allah (The One God) from the Satan (devil) the cursed, the rejected

With the name of ALLAH (swt) -The Bestower Of Unlimited Mercy, The Continously Merciful


Assalamu Alaikum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuh (May the peace, mercy and blessings of Allah be upon you)

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hemoo said:
......he (the Holy Prophet) called him and said: Verily my father and your father are in the Fire.
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can u pl. explain this hadith more ? I don't know what others said about this hadith ---it's very confusing to me :confused:


Prophet's father was an idol worshippers ???? If not , why he will go to hell ? What about Ma Ameena ?? Is she going to hell, too ?
( may Allah forbid )

Is it allowed for us to say , Allah knows best which specific person will go to hell unless his/her name is mentioned in Quran as a sinner ?

 
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Look sister,

I and you don't know the biography of both the father and mother of the prophet (P.B.U.H) so I can only say what the prophet says and you can refer to the books of explanation of the hadith for more knowledge.

So here are two hadith said by the prophet and they are mentioned in Sahih Muslim:

1-
Anas reported: Verily, a person said: Messenger of Allah, where is my father? He said: (He) is in the Fire. When he turned away, he (the Holy Prophet) called him and said: Verily my father and your father are in the Fire.

2-
Chapter: The Apostle of Allah (way peace be upon him) seeking permission from the Lord. The Exalted and High, for visiting the grave of his mother.

Abu Huraira reported: The Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) visited the grave of his mother and he wept, and moved others around him to tears, and said: I sought permission from my Lord to beg forgiveness for her but it was not granted to me, and I sought permission to visit her grave and it was granted to motel So visit the graves, for that makes you mindful of death.


So as Imam muslim said “intercession would be of no avail to him and the relationship of his favourites would not benefit him.”

Our religion does not allow that some one not to be punished after he kills or steals even if this man is related to the prophet because all Muslims are equal.

The prophet said:

Narated By 'Aisha : Usama approached the Prophet on behalf of a woman (who had committed theft). The Prophet said, "The people before you were destroyed because they used to inflict the legal punishments on the poor and forgive the rich. By Him in Whose Hand my soul is! If Fatima (the daughter of the Prophet) did that (i.e. stole), I would cut off her hand."

And we know that Abo Taleb (the prophet’s uncle) will be in hell because he refused to enter Islam even while he was dying.

And we can’t judge on any one to be in heaven or hell because there are no revelation comes to us but the prophet is infallible especially in what he says concerning Islam and the unknown future.



Finally, about Sheikh Yusuf AlQaradawi I would like to say to you that he is indeed a muslim scholar and after all he has good Islamic knowledge so my purpose from talking about him is that you be careful while listening to his lectures or reading his books and always try to get the Islamic knowledge from other scholars too.
 
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Salaam/peace ,


hemoo said:
......I and you don't know the biography of both the father and mother of the prophet (P.B.U.H)
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----errrr i know a little bit about them :hiding:

I never read about them that they were idol worshippers. So , if anybody believes that they won't go to hell , how it contradicts with Quran ????

Do u know , those who don't agree with this opinion that Prophet's parent will go to hell , what's their point ?



Is this opinion/hadith is found in Shahi Bukhari also ?

Hope , i m not irritating u much :nervous:




, about Sheikh Yusuf AlQaradawi I would like to say to you that he is indeed a muslim scholar and after all he has good Islamic knowledge so my purpose from talking about him is that you be careful while listening to his lectures or reading his books and always try to get the Islamic knowledge from other scholars too.
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---ok , which Scholars fatwa do u recommend ? Do u have the link ?


 
hadeeth that came in both Bukhary and Muslim
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I am not arguig about the rights and wrong of anyone's belief about who is hellboud or going to heaven. but I can't stand it when people just say hadith says this, bukhari say that, without actually giving book and hadith number. how can it be verified without a proper reference?

wa-salaam
 
first sister, any one who says something that contradicts with the saying of the prophet is indeed contradicting the quran because

in the quran translation :

the Quran said about the prophet (P.B.U.H):

Nor doth he speak of (his own) desire. (53.3) it is naught but revelation that is revealed to him (53.4)

and we could'nt have make the ablution or prayer or hajj ,etc without knowing the saying (hadith) of the prophet (P.B.U.H).

and i recomment to you these fatwa sites :
http://islamqa.com/index.php?ln=eng
http://www.islamweb.net/ver2/Fatwa/index.php?lang=E

http://english.islamway.com/ (good articles and audios)

and the muftis of saudi arabia are so good (as shiekh bin othaimen, bin baz, al elsheikh, also shiekh almunajid)


second brother :

this hadith is so well known between the scholars of islam and it is even mentioned in the 40 Nawawi

"Both legal and illegal things are evident but in between them there are doubtful (suspicious) things and most of the people have no knowledge about them"

and there is something in the computer world named search and find

so it is so easy for you to search for the hadith without having to read the whole book of bukhary and muslim (i always do that)

besides the numbering system of the hadith is different between a program and another so i can't give you an absolute number.

finally the two hadith of the mother and father of the prophet are in sahih muslim

one of them are in the book of funeral (mother hadith)

and the other is in the book of faith (father hadith)
 


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first sister, any one who says something that contradicts with the saying of the prophet is indeed contradicting the quran ]
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..... how can we 100 % sure that Prophet (p) really said that ? To be a Muslim , is it a must for us to accept ALL Bukhari & Muslim Hadith ?

I don't think , expressing doubt about any specific hadith means contradicting with Quran .



and i recomment to you these fatwa sites :


-----thanks a lot . Insha Allah , i will visit.


this hadith is so well known between the scholars of islam and it is even mentioned in the 40 Nawawi
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---again this question comes in to mind: is it a must to believe in the 40 Nawawi ? ( for ignorant person like me , it's better if u explain why 40 Nawawi is so imp or if we are allowed to express doubt about any hadith even mentioned in it ).

thanks in advance
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Muslim Woman said:






..... how can we 100 % sure that Prophet (p) really said that ? To be a Muslim , is it a must for us to accept ALL Bukhari & Muslim Hadith ?

I don't think , expressing doubt about any specific hadith means contradicting with Quran .



and i recomment to you these fatwa sites :


-----thanks a lot . Insha Allah , i will visit.





---again this question comes in to mind: is it a must to believe in the 40 Nawawi ? ( for ignorant person like me , it's better if u explain why 40 Nawawi is so imp or if we are allowed to express doubt about any hadith even mentioned in it ).

thanks in advance
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I like this topic Hemoo I have a important comment. There are incorrect fatwas on jihad floating around that say give the weak hadith "the greatest jihad is to jihad nafs." It contradicts so many hadiths and ayahs of the Quran it is wrong.

To answer one of the question 'Muslim woman' asked:

The Quran and authentic Hadith have the same weight. The Quran ayah that reads "Indeed we have sent down the Dhikr (remembrance) and we will assuredly guard it from corruption."(Al Hijr:9) The scholars of Ahlul Sunnah wal Jammah agree that the Dhikr mentioned here is talking about the Quran AND the Sunnah of the Prophet (saw). Also in the Quran Allah (swt) says "Tell them (Oh Messenger of Allah) if you truly love Allah FOLLOW me and Allah will love you and forgive you your sins. Indeed Allah is forgiving, most merciful" So if Allah told us to follow his Messenger in the Quran he must give us the sunnah of the Prophet (saw) to follow. The ayah pertaining to this issue is numerous and if I find and write down all of them it will take a long time and I think you got the point. The Sunnah was collected by scholars of this Ummah who are as the Prophet said "Heirs of the Prophets". That is why one of the things he feared most for his ummah is "corrupt scholars". That is why the way that ignorance will prevail in the world is through the death of our scholars who pass on the authentic knowledge from generation to generation. I can go into further detail on this topic. The best book on this issue is called "The authority of Sunnah" by Jamal Zarbozo.
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jazak Allah khayran "Ghira" for your post

And sister Muslim woman:

It is not appropriate that any one goes around saying that this Hadith is wrong and that is wrong.

Only the big scholars of the Hadith science can verify the authenticity of the Hadiths

So it is not a pick and throw process

As you know that even in the Islamic sciences, there are many fields of specialization so the Fiqh scholars speak on fiqh and the hadith scholar speaks about hadith and so on.

It is so important to know that adding a fake hadith is like removing an authentic hadith

Because this will be like trying to alter and corrupt the real message of Islam.
 
i also wanted to add that :

the same way that was used to preserve and transmit the Holy Quran to us was also used to transmit the sayings and traditions of the prophet (which is known as Hadith) and was also used with the Sunna books such as Sahih Bukhary & Muslim ,etc
 
Sheikh Yusuf AlQaradawi has also gone against some of the hadith of the prophet and the Fatwa’s of the earlier scholars of Islam in the following issues:

1-in his book named (the Allowed and the prohibited) he said that if a man cuts his beard then it is not prohibited (haram) but it is only not preferred (makroh) and this fatwa is against the acting and saying of the companions and the four Imams and against what the prophet (P.B.U.H) said and did.

In both Bukhary and Muslim:

Narated By Ibn 'Umar : Allah's Apostle said, "Cut the moustaches short and leave the beard (as it is)."

2- some muslims say that the sheikh has also said that it is allowed for a woman to travel without a Mahram man (but I am not sure that he did say this fatwa) but here is the hadith of the prophet (P.B.U.H) concerning this issue :

in both sahih Bukhary and sahih Muslim:

Narated By Ibn Abbas : That he heard the Prophet saying, "It is not permissible for a man to be alone with a woman, and no lady should travel except with a Muhram (i.e. her husband or a person whom she cannot marry in any case for ever; e.g. her father, brother, etc.)." Then a man got up and said, "O Allah's Apostle! I have enlisted in the army for such-and-such Ghazwa and my wife is proceeding for Hajj." Allah's Apostle said, "Go, and perform the Hajj with your wife."

So in this hadith the prophet said to the man to travel with his wife instead going with the army.

Also this hadith in sahih Muslim:

Abu Huraira (Allah be pleased with him) reported Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) as saying: It is not lawful for a woman who believes in Allah and the Hereafter to undertake a day's journey except in the company of a Mahram.

3- in one of his books he talked about the circumcision of the woman and he said that there is no evidence in the Quran and Sunna that it is an obligation or a desirable thing and that it is only an allowed thing.

and it is important to know that the Four mazaheb Imams has split in the state of waman circumcision to three verdicts (which are 1- it is an obligation 2- preferred 3- a noble trait) and here are some of the hadith in this subject:

in sahih Muslim ,book of Menstruation:

Abu Musa reported: There cropped up a difference of opinion between a group of Muhajirs (Emigrants and a group of Ansar (Helpers) (and the point of dispute was) that the Ansar said: The bath (because of sexual intercourse) becomes obligatory only-when the semen spurts out or ejaculates. But the Muhajirs said: When a man has sexual intercourse (with the woman), a bath becomes obligatory (no matter whether or not there is seminal emission or ejaculation). Abu Musa said: Well, I satisfy you on this (issue). He (Abu Musa, the narrator) said: I got up (and went) to 'Aisha and sought her permission and it was granted, and I said to her: O Mother, or Mother of the Faithful, I want to ask you about a matter on which I feel shy. She said: Don't feel shy of asking me about a thing which you can ask your mother, who gave you birth, for I am too your mother. Upon this I said: What makes a bath obligatory for a person? She replied: You have come across one well informed! The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: When anyone sits amidst four parts (of the woman) and the circumcised parts touch each other a bath becomes obligatory.
So this hadith shows that both the married man and woman are circumcised, and this is considered as the original state of every muslim.

Second hadith in both Bukhary and Muslim :

Abu Huraira reported: Five are the acts quite akin to the Fitra, or five are the acts of Fitra: circumcision, shaving the pubes, cutting the nails, plucking the hair under the armpits and clipping the moustache.

and this hadith shows that it is recommended to do those acts of Fitra for both men and women.

4- It is good to mention that I have an audio record for sheikh yusuf alQaradawi in which he has said “may Allah have mercy on the latest pope (after he died) and may Allah COMPENSATE the Christians another better pope”

and of course many Muslim scholars has replied to what the sheikh Qaradawi said and one of them mentioned the oppressions that has been made on Muslims by the agreements of this died pope and some of his Anti-Islam attitudes.
And we have seen what did the new pope say about Islam.

5- He says that the music is allowed in Islamic laws and to reply on this Fatwa it is enough to mention the hadith of the prophet (P.B.U.H):

In Sahih Bukhary :

Narated By Abu 'Amir or Abu Malik Al-Ash'ari : That he heard the Prophet saying, "From among my followers there will be some people who will consider illegal sexual intercourse, the wearing of silk, the drinking of alcoholic drinks and the use of musical instruments, as lawful.“

And it is also good to mention that the Four Mazaheb did say that the music is prohibited in Islam.

6- Also here are another wrong Fatwas given by him concerning the state of:

A) Drawing a human or animal (or anything with a soul) on papers and tableau is just a not preferred acting.

B) It is okay to congratulate the non muslims (such as christains) on their religious festivals (like Easter and Christmas)

C) In an Arabic magazine (named alraya). It mentioned that in an interview with the sheikh he said that he listens to songs by female Arab singers such as Fayrouz, Shadya and Om Kalthom.


So brothers and sisters in Islam I think that what I wrote is enough for giving the advice and warning the Muslims from doing what may lead to hell punishment.

 
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hemoo;716676].... some muslims say that the sheikh has also said that it is allowed for a woman to travel without a Mahram man (but I am not sure that he did say this fatwa)
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--- i guess , u r talking about this fatwa.


http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/...nglish-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaEAskTheScholar



Woman Traveling to Hajj Without Mahram.


....what was reported by Al-Bukhari and Muslim from the hadith of `Ada Ibn Hatim that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) told him about the future of Islam and how its light will be spread throughout the earth. Among what he mentioned is: “The day is near when a young woman will travel from Al-Hira (a city in Iraq), going to the Sacred House with no husband accompanying her. She will fear none but Allah.”



This information does not only prove that this will happen, but proves its permissibility, because it was mentioned in a phrase praising the spread of Islam along with its sense of security.


It is incumbent upon us to look at traveling in our time. It is not like how traveling was in the past. It is no more filled with the dangers of the arid deserts, or awe of being encountered with thieves, highway robbers, etc. Now traveling is by various modern means of transportation that usually gather large amounts of people at a time, like ships, airplanes, buses, or cars that travel in caravans.



Thus, this provides plenty of confidence and reliability, removing feelings of fear for the woman, because she will not be by herself in any place.

Thus, in the light of the above, I see no objection to woman performing Hajj within such safe environment, which provides all the necessary security and contentment."



Allah Almighty knows best.
 
jazaky Allah khayran sister for sharing this fatwa

first sister it is so important to differentiate between traveling for obligatory Hajj and other kinds of traveling.

but you have caused me to search in this issue a little further and i want you to read both those Fatwas from the islamqa site :

1-
http://islamqa.com/index.php?ref=81941&ln=eng&txt=wives%20Hajj

2-
http://islamqa.com/index.php?ref=3098&ln=eng&txt=woman%20three%20travel


so after you read these Fatwas, you then can realize which is the real laws of islam. and the attitudes that pleases Allah the Almighty.

and i found another Fatwa with the title "Is it permissible in Islamic sharee’ah for a woman to be a ruler?"

here is the link :

http://islamqa.com/index.php?ref=20677&ln=eng&txt=woman%20three%20travel

i ask Allah to guide me and you and to increase our knowledge in islam.

Ameen
 
Muslim Woman said:

Prophet's father was an idol worshippers ???? If not , why he will go to hell ? What about Ma Ameena ?? Is she going to hell, too ?
( may Allah forbid )
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How is this hadith that Br. hemoo quoted different from the story of Prophet Abraham (pbuh) and his father in the Quran? I have read commentaries on these 2 ayat that who was referred to here was his uncle and not his father. They said that it was impossible for a prophet's father to be an unbeliever. Allah (swt) knows best, but I take the ayat literally.

Quran 60:4 You have an excellent example in Ibrahim (Abraham) and his companions. They said to their people plainly: "We are clear of you and your gods, whom you worship besides Allah. We renounce you. Enmity and hate shall reign between us forever until you believe in Allah, the One and Only God." But do not emulate what Ibrahim said to his father: "I will pray for your forgiveness, although I have no power to get anything for you from Allah." Their collective prayer was: "Our Rabb! In You we have put our trust, to You we turn in repentance and to You is our final goal.


Quran 9:114 Ibrahim (Abraham) prayed for his father's forgiveness only to fulfill a promise he had made to him. But when it became clear to him that he was an enemy of Allah he disassociated himself from him. The fact is that Ibrahim was tenderhearted, forbearing.
 
MustafaMc said:
How is this hadith that Br. hemoo quoted different from the story of Prophet Abraham (pbuh) and his father in the Quran? I have read commentaries on these 2 ayat that who was referred to here was his uncle and not his father. They said that it was impossible for a prophet's father to be an unbeliever. Allah (swt) knows best, but I take the ayat literally.

Quran 60:4 You have an excellent example in Ibrahim (Abraham) and his companions. They said to their people plainly: "We are clear of you and your gods, whom you worship besides Allah. We renounce you. Enmity and hate shall reign between us forever until you believe in Allah, the One and Only God." But do not emulate what Ibrahim said to his father: "I will pray for your forgiveness, although I have no power to get anything for you from Allah." Their collective prayer was: "Our Rabb! In You we have put our trust, to You we turn in repentance and to You is our final goal.


Quran 9:114 Ibrahim (Abraham) prayed for his father's forgiveness only to fulfill a promise he had made to him. But when it became clear to him that he was an enemy of Allah he disassociated himself from him. The fact is that Ibrahim was tenderhearted, forbearing.
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To answer your question a person can make dua for your non-Muslim parents if they are alive. You can ask Allah to forgive, guide, help parents or any non-muslim who is alive. Once the person passes away you cannot make dua for Allah to forgive him because they died disbelieving in Allah and his Messenger (saw). The dua would be useless and you cannot make dua for them. In the case of The Messenger Muhammad (saw) his parents were dead and died as disbelievers from the previous hadith that Br. Hemo mentioned. In the case of Abraham (as) his parents were alive and he made dua for them.
 
Ghira said:
To answer your question a person can make dua for your non-Muslim parents if they are alive. You can ask Allah to forgive, guide, help parents or any non-muslim who is alive. Once the person passes away you cannot make dua for Allah to forgive him because they died disbelieving in Allah and his Messenger (saw). The dua would be useless and you cannot make dua for them. In the case of The Messenger Muhammad (saw) his parents were dead and died as disbelievers from the previous hadith that Br. Hemo mentioned. In the case of Abraham (as) his parents were alive and he made dua for them.
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Thank you for the clarification. That is my understanding as well.
 
hemoo said:
Abu Musa reported: There cropped up a difference of opinion between a group of Muhajirs (Emigrants and a group of Ansar (Helpers) (and the point of dispute was) that the Ansar said: The bath (because of sexual intercourse) becomes obligatory only-when the semen spurts out or ejaculates. But the Muhajirs said: When a man has sexual intercourse (with the woman), a bath becomes obligatory (no matter whether or not there is seminal emission or ejaculation). Abu Musa said: Well, I satisfy you on this (issue). He (Abu Musa, the narrator) said: I got up (and went) to 'Aisha and sought her permission and it was granted, and I said to her: O Mother, or Mother of the Faithful, I want to ask you about a matter on which I feel shy. She said: Don't feel shy of asking me about a thing which you can ask your mother, who gave you birth, for I am too your mother. Upon this I said: What makes a bath obligatory for a person? She replied: You have come across one well informed! The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: When anyone sits amidst four parts (of the woman) and the circumcised parts touch each other a bath becomes obligatory.
So this hadith shows that both the married man and woman are circumcised, and this is considered as the original state of every muslim.


where is the evidence that ayesha ra or any other female companion was circumcised? if this had been the practice of the sahaba and indeed a sunnah, why did it die out, as most certaintly it is not a common or widespread practice amongst any except africans now?

jazakAllah khair for your efforts, I appreciate any response :)
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