Modern knowledge contradicting the sunnah

**Tariqa** · 02-07-2009

I have been studing things that modern people today call "new information".
If you know me by now you all may think i am very adament about the sunnah.

When i say the sunnah i mean things that the prophet did and he loves..

When i hear of things todayu that people, experts, say not to do that completly contradicts the sunnah, it makes me think, what happened to our religion..

For example, you may be able to tell i am big on hygiene and beatuifcation..

How ever modern standards of beatification is in contradiction to the sunnah. I have read some experts say that perfume is bad... Tottally and they say its better to just stay clean (whatever that means).. This is in dierect oppoistion to what the prophet loved... The prophet love teek and perfume.. But now are modern discoveries show that what the prophet may have loved is not the wisest of things to love..

There are more examples where people learn new things..

For instance through physchology many people say that jinns are not real but physcological voices in our heads..

With all these "discoveries" im wondered how much of it do we take and what do we actually leave for the sake of the sunnah?

**Abu Hafs** · 02-10-2009

BismiLlah,

My brother, a good # of people are saying nowadays that there is no God, would you believe them?

If any scientific discovery contradicts the Sunnah then it's for sure wrong.

**Dawud_uk** · 02-10-2009

Originally Posted by Tariqa

if the whole world tells us that alcohol is the cure to the newest death dealing disease would we take it or say its haram?

then why do we take modern scientific opinions as facts in the first place..?

there is a principle in the Quran and sunnah called necessity overruling prohibition.

that means even though it is haram to kill wild animals just for their furs, if you live somewhere extremely cold this rule no longer applies as without those furs you would die.

simularly alcohol has been used in medicines in the past amongst muslim doctors.

this doesnt change its position of being haram, only that to prevent death or serious injury it is permissable to do haram to avoid that.

nobody is saying dont take scientic proven points as facted, only that the ultimate truth belongs to Allah and just as many times in the past when these 'scientific truths' were known by all as being correct, we still said they were wrong and the Quran and sunnah correct.

for example, for hundreds of years the thinkers of the west said the world was flat, we said it is round and they laughed, should we have abandoned our ideas for theirs just because it is more prevelent?

or as already mentioned on embriology, we were laughed at for 1300 years until the microscope, science said we were wrong but we know Allah and his Rasool (saws) didnt lie so the scientists must be mistaken in this case.

**Tariqa** · 02-10-2009

Originally Posted by Dawud_uk

there is a principle in the Quran and sunnah called necessity overruling prohibition.

that means even though it is haram to kill wild animals just for their furs, if you live somewhere extremely cold this rule no longer applies as without those furs you would die.

simularly alcohol has been used in medicines in the past amongst muslim doctors.

this doesnt change its position of being haram, only that to prevent death or serious injury it is permissable to do haram to avoid that.

nobody is saying dont take scientic proven points as facted, only that the ultimate truth belongs to Allah and just as many times in the past when these 'scientific truths' were known by all as being correct, we still said they were wrong and the Quran and sunnah correct.

for example, for hundreds of years the thinkers of the west said the world was flat, we said it is round and they laughed, should we have abandoned our ideas for theirs just because it is more prevelent?

or as already mentioned on embriology, we were laughed at for 1300 years until the microscope, science said we were wrong but we know Allah and his Rasool (saws) didnt lie so the scientists must be mistaken in this case.

so if scientist make mistakes then im sure theres no reason to listen to what they say anymore because they do not really know wnything much... right??

who cares what a scientist new studies shows... until its proven then we should not follow it...

ciggerettes... no harm because theres no proof right?

**Ummu Sufyaan** · 02-10-2009

Originally Posted by Tariqa

if the whole world tells us that alcohol is the cure to the newest death dealing disease would we take it or say its haram?

then why do we take modern scientific opinions as facts in the first place..?

because a lot of them are legitimate and permissible...of course you ignore the ones that are haram, etc. but there are still alot of scientific knowledge that is still legitimate.

please be careful as to what you label as permissible or not. after all, you are propagating islam!

**Dawud_uk** · 02-10-2009

Originally Posted by Tariqa

so if scientist make mistakes then im sure theres no reason to listen to what they say anymore because they do not really know wnything much... right??

who cares what a scientist new studies shows... until its proven then we should not follow it...

ciggerettes... no harm because theres no proof right?

i dont feel you are actually reading what is being written here for your benefit.

i never said that, nor has anyone else. scientists try there best, often they are right but there is a better evidence, a better proof which overrides everything they say which is the Quran and sunnah.