Please shed light on these few verses for me please. So I can fathom them.
1- If you fear that you will not act justly towards the orphans, marry such woman' as seem good to you, two, three, four; but if you fear you will not be equitable, then only one, or what your right hands own;
2 - Oh Prophet, We have made lawful for thee thy wives whom thou hast given their wages and what thy right hand owns, spoils of war that God has given thee, and the daughter of thy uncles paternal and aunts paternal, thy uncles maternal and aunts maternal, who have emigrated with thee, and any woman believer, if she give herself to the Prophet and if the Prophet desire to take her in marriage, for thee exclusively, apart from the believers
3 - Does circumcision have to be carried out according to the Quran?
4 - What is this verse meant by? ''Al-Hasan al-Basri narrated: The Messenger of God said, "The only two things I cherish of the life of this world are women and perfume''
5 - Did Mohammed have thirteen wives?
6 - Explain this please ''Round about them will serve, (devoted) to them, Youths (handsome) as Pearls well-guarded. S. 52:24 Y. Ali
There wait on them immortal youths With bowls and ewers and a cup from a pure spring.
There wait on them immortal youths, whom, when thou seest, thou wouldst take for scattered pearls.
I'm trying to get a better understanding as these are the few things i'm having difficulty understandng. I get different responses from different people.
Don't mean any offence.
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Kal Meh Bėḏ Atharbaṇ Hū Nā Kẖuḏā Alhu Bẖa.
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what my question is, which i dnt seem to get answered from you posts is, if Allah has stated there will be more women, that means it must be prophesised (or how eva u spel it) which individual will get into paradise and who wont.
Hi,
The simple answer is that Allah swt knows everything, He knows what we are going to do in the future just like He knows what we have done in the past. Allah is not bound by time, so it isn't like us, where we can only see the present and past but not the future. He is outside of time and all knowledgable and knows what we are going to do.
That does not mean He is forcing us to do it. It just means He already know what we will do. We are given to choice to do what we want.
what does ROFL mean?
=rolling on floor laughing.
therefore it is already destined who will achieve 'paradise' and who will not!
Yes, Allah already knows where we are headed. He knows who is going to Paradise and who is not.
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on ratio, based on the hadith, there will be 2 women for ever 1 man in paradise...
Hmm... but aren't the two wives meant to be from the Hur al 3ain though? Not earthly women?
Hmm... but aren't the two wives meant to be from the Hur al 3ain though? Not earthly women?
Allah knows best I guess...
Muslim, Book 040, Number 6793
Muhammad reported that some (persons) stated with a sense of pride and some discussed whether there would be more men in Paradise or more women. It was upon this that Abu Huraira reported that Abu'l Qasim (the Holy Prophet) (may peace be upon him) said: The (members) of the first group to get into Paradise would have their faces as bright as full moon during the night, and the next to this group would have their faces as bright as the shining stars in the sky, and every person would have two wives and the marrow of their shanks would glimmer beneath the flesh and there would be none without a wife in Paradise.
Allah knows best, but in the above hadith they were discussing whether or not there were more men than women in paradise.... the hor al 3ain are already in paradise....and the hadith says
The (members) of the first group to get into Paradise would have their faces as bright as full moon during the night, and the next to this group would have their faces as bright as the shining stars in the sky,
once again, Allah knows best, and i don't pretend to be a scholar, but i always believed that the Hor al 3ains are additional companions to men in addition to their wives...
and with all the suffering and oppression women HAVE gone through in history, it makes sense....
ok u confirm there is a preordained destiny. what decides this destiny? is there some sort of life before birth that decides which individuals will be destined in this life to reach it?
i also wanted to ask, what is the human sole before birth? does it come into being once a baby is concieved?
Blessed, blessed is that tongue, O my soul, which sings the Glorious Praises of the Lord God.
Sublime, pure and pious is that head, O my soul, which falls at the Lords Feet.
Nanak is a sacrifice to those, O my soul, who hear of the Lord, and believe in the Lord's Name.
ok i also wanted to ask, what is the human sole before birth? does it come into being once a baby is concieved?
in embryogenesis limb formation begins around 5 weeks, and shortly there after the "soles" develop -- however if you speak of the "soul" then that is around 4 months gestation that an angel breathes life into the baby
Ibn `Abbas stated that the breathing-in-process takes place within 10 days after the 4-month period.
Verily, each of you is created in the form of a drop of sperm in his mother�s womb for forty days, then he is a clot for a similar period, then he is a lump of flesh (the size of a morsel) for a similar (period), then the angel is sent to breathe (human) spirit into him, then (the angel) is ordered to write down his share of livelihood, his appointed term (i.e. how long he will live), his actions and whether he will be miserable or happy." (Narrated by Bukhari and Muslim) Scholars said that aborting the fetus after four months of gestation is prohibited according to Islamic Sharia.
..Source and another source on ruling since, that is when we consider a fetus and actual human being. surprisingly, scientifically speaking that is also when doctors consider the baby viable ... ha another case where Islam and science walk hand in hand...fetal life
peace!
Last edited by جوري; 05-24-2007 at 06:32 PM.
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Please shed light on these few verses for me please. So I can fathom them.
1- If you fear that you will not act justly towards the orphans, marry such woman' as seem good to you, two, three, four; but if you fear you will not be equitable, then only one, or what your right hands own;
2 - Oh Prophet, We have made lawful for thee thy wives whom thou hast given their wages and what thy right hand owns, spoils of war that God has given thee, and the daughter of thy uncles paternal and aunts paternal, thy uncles maternal and aunts maternal, who have emigrated with thee, and any woman believer, if she give herself to the Prophet and if the Prophet desire to take her in marriage, for thee exclusively, apart from the believers
3 - Does circumcision have to be carried out according to the Quran?
4 - What is this verse meant by? ''Al-Hasan al-Basri narrated: The Messenger of God said, "The only two things I cherish of the life of this world are women and perfume''
5 - Did Mohammed have thirteen wives?
6 - Explain this please ''Round about them will serve, (devoted) to them, Youths (handsome) as Pearls well-guarded. S. 52:24 Y. Ali
There wait on them immortal youths With bowls and ewers and a cup from a pure spring.
There wait on them immortal youths, whom, when thou seest, thou wouldst take for scattered pearls.
I'm trying to get a better understanding as these are the few things i'm having difficulty understandng. I get different responses from different people.
Don't mean any offence.
everyone
I believe that quoting a translation of the quranic verses alone without the actual arabic verse from the Quran (the surah name, the verse number and the context) and then asking for tafseer is not a fair job. Better if we quote the actual arabic verse and its best translation coz translations differ from scholar to scholar. And yes, the best way wud be to seek a scholar.
ok u confirm there is a preordained destiny. what decides this destiny? is there some sort of life before birth that decides which individuals will be destined in this life to reach it?
i also wanted to ask, what is the human sole before birth? does it come into being once a baby is concieved?
If theres preordained destiny, what decides this? does Allah randomly decide which individual will get paradise, and who wont? or do humans have influence on this? as it is alredy decided who will get to paradise or not by Allah...
Blessed, blessed is that tongue, O my soul, which sings the Glorious Praises of the Lord God.
Sublime, pure and pious is that head, O my soul, which falls at the Lords Feet.
Nanak is a sacrifice to those, O my soul, who hear of the Lord, and believe in the Lord's Name.
Gurfateh, its bin a few months since i posted this question, n it seems still not 2 b answered. is their any one on this forum that can help me understand, its bin buggin me 4 a while, but people jus stopd replying.
Blessed, blessed is that tongue, O my soul, which sings the Glorious Praises of the Lord God.
Sublime, pure and pious is that head, O my soul, which falls at the Lords Feet.
Nanak is a sacrifice to those, O my soul, who hear of the Lord, and believe in the Lord's Name.
If theres preordained destiny, what decides this? does Allah randomly decide which individual will get paradise, and who wont? or do humans have influence on this? as it is alredy decided who will get to paradise or not by Allah...
peace
Allah has measured out the span of every person's life, their lot of good or ill fortune, and the fruits of their efforts
Muslims believe that the divine destiny is when God wrote down in the Preserved Tablet ("al-Lawhu 'l-Mahfuz") all that has happened and will happen, which will come to pass as written
According to this belief, a person's action is not caused by what is written in the Preserved Tablet but, rather, the action is written in the Preserved Tablet because God already knows all occurrences without the restrictions of time.
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