From the western point of views that ISLAM is a threat to Western World. A threat to all evils - commercial evils, business evils, economic evils and also political evils, which are found freely in so called our developed western nations:
1. Islam prohibits alcohol - thus it will stop all business relating to alcohol [Industry, Bars, Night Clubs, etc] - Billion dollars of business will be closed.
2. Islam prohibits free sex, prostitutions - again billion dollars of sex, and prostitutes industries will be closed
3. Islam prohibits commercialization of women - thus billion dollars of putting naked or half naked women in advertisements will be lost.
4. Islam prohibits interest in Banking - thus all Financial Institutions will be closed and change to Islamic Banking Systems.
5. Islam prohibits injustice - thus the whole legal systems of western world need to be changed - Lawyer Firms will be closed.
6.Islam prohibits terrorisms and war - thus billion dollars of defense industries will be closed.
7. Islam prohibits rocks dancing - thus billion dollars music /rock festivals will be closed.
8. Islam prohibits gambling - thus billion dollars casinos will be closed.
9. Islam prohibits free sex - thus billion dollars porno sex films industry will be closed.
10. Islam prohibits abuse of drugs - thus billion dollars of illegal drugs business will be lost.
Thus ISLAM is a threat, and by whatever means MUST be stopped to reach the western world. For example the slaughtering of 7 million muslims in Spain is a good example. Even Islam in Spain at that time was very much advanced, in knowledge, sciences, industries - our Christian European was in the dark age, yet ISLAM must be stopped.
Logically and scientifically, I strongly feel, and others too, that whatever ISLAM prohibits are good to mankind. BUT! BUT!
SURELY WITH THE PRESENT BUSINESS WORLD WITH FULL OF EVILS - WHICH BRING IN BILLION OF DOLLARS WILL NOT LIKE ISLAM. ALL EFFORTS MUST BE CARRIED OUT TO STOP ISLAM.
Generally, these are the feelings the West hold against Islam.
im trying to say that we had the opportunity to imperialise the cıountries we conquered but we didnt because it is against islam and it is against ethic to be a developed nation by imperialisation....
we had opportunity but we didnt use this as it is inhumane...but westerners did this inhumane unethic thing and became developed cıuntries...
i find islam just as acceptable as any other religion. i would not find it acceptable to live in a theocracy of any kind.
I will join this one. If Muslims accept to practice Islam as a religion in the West, then I see absolutely no problems. But starting to mess up and try to impose their laws in our society: Definetely NOT !
Muslims and Christians living together in a place ruled by secular laws. That would be my vision of peace.
Im Always Right,Its Like,When Im Right,Im Right,And When Im Wrong,I Could've Been Right,So Im Still Right,'Cause I Could've Been Wrong!
I will join this one. If Muslims accept to practice Islam as a religion in the West, then I see absolutely no problems. But starting to mess up and try to impose their laws in our society: Definetely NOT !
Muslims and Christians living together in a place ruled by secular laws. That would be my vision of peace.
I think that depends on what you would call messing it up?
If u are talking about muslims who dont practise Islam, i would agree with you 100%, but if you're talking about islam- the only religion in the universe that allows you to leave ur home opened and trust nothing will be stolen, my dear brother ur sorely mistaken...
I will join this one. If Muslims accept to practice Islam as a religion in the West, then I see absolutely no problems. But starting to mess up and try to impose their laws in our society: Definetely NOT !
Muslims and Christians living together in a place ruled by secular laws. That would be my vision of peace.
can i ask you something, do you think a just ruler who is sincere is enough to run a fair secular government?
dont you think even in his sincerity there will be faults and imperfections... even a whole council or commitee is likely to have mistakes and imperfections when dealing with such a huge responsibility.
-
My tears testify that i have a heart
yet i feel me and shaytan never part
-
I imagine a place, where everybody is free to practice his religion according to their beliefs WITH the restriction (And that is vaild for ALL religions) that no priest, scholar, imam, bischop, or whatever has a power in a governement.
Governement is elected by people and NO laws made by any God !
A Concil/Government shall be voted and grouped by people of all religions equally and discuss. I think, everybody would have to make some restrictions to satisfy the whole community.
Religious problems should be discussed and fixed within the believer community
I know, its a little bit simplistic view, but hey, it would be a nice start.
Im Always Right,Its Like,When Im Right,Im Right,And When Im Wrong,I Could've Been Right,So Im Still Right,'Cause I Could've Been Wrong!
^ lol but i asked if why you think that its a good system, everything based on the desires of a few people, and then they implement what they "feel" is best and everyone else gets adapted into it. What makes this so good? im asking you why you dont seem to think that man-made laws are disruptive (which they clearly are, we can see that from todays world), we need a better source for our laws... dont you think?
-
My tears testify that i have a heart
yet i feel me and shaytan never part
-
I think that depends on what you would call messing it up?
If u are talking about muslims who dont practise Islam, i would agree with you 100%, but if you're talking about islam- the only religion in the universe that allows you to leave ur home opened and trust nothing will be stolen, my dear brother ur sorely mistaken...
Never will happen. You are talking about a dream land where all Muslims are good people.
im trying to say that we had the opportunity to imperialise the cıountries we conquered but we didnt because it is against islam and it is against ethic to be a developed nation by imperialisation....
we had opportunity but we didnt use this as it is inhumane...but westerners did this inhumane unethic thing and became developed cıuntries...
can i ask you something, do you think a just ruler who is sincere is enough to run a fair secular government?
dont you think even in his sincerity there will be faults and imperfections... even a whole council or commitee is likely to have mistakes and imperfections when dealing with such a huge responsibility.
Do you assume that anyone can just because they call god Allah?
...and what would be this better source of law ? God...?
Let's see...create laws based on the experiences of people which change due to circumstances and situations OR create laws laid out by the being that created those people and knows us better than we know ourselves...
I support secularism not because I don't wish to follow God's law, but I believe a secular democracy/republic gives people the freedom to worship and follow whatever religious law they wish, as long as it doesn't harm others. Secularism preserves religion in my mind, as there is a concrete freedom to worship as one sees fit. No wars over religious control, no mass exodus in search of freedom.
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not, and a sense of humor was provided to console him for what he is."
I fail to undertand the relation betwen "intoxication" and "development", the only development you would get is the ticket handed to you by a cop.
Islam has bo problem is the West is drinking or doing drugs or having sex, Islam is only warning about "what happens after the above"???
Well, sometimes I get the feeling, that 'some' muslims really need these kind of restrictions to be able to live in a society. Me, I live in the west, and have absolutely no problem with drugs, alcohol, sex or whatever sins. It's called self-control. Most people have self-control. There is just a bunch of 'outlaws'. Now I notice, that 'these' muslims here on the forum judge the whole western society based upon these few ones, who don't know to behave.
But exactely 'these' muslims are the ones, who complain, when 'we westeners' judge all muslims beeing terrorists based upon a few muslim 'outlaws'.
Further, you don't like sex (which I seriously doubt), alcohol and drugs, so stay on your side and don't complain !
Im Always Right,Its Like,When Im Right,Im Right,And When Im Wrong,I Could've Been Right,So Im Still Right,'Cause I Could've Been Wrong!
Exactly, thats what we want, for instance when we do not criticize or despice your "half-naked" ladies strolling on the beaches, you shouldn't also be despising our ladies who are properly dressed and are not "offering" the forbidden fruit to every tom, dick and harry that comes in the way.
Exactly, thats what we want, for instance when we do not criticize or despice your "half-naked" ladies strolling on the beaches, you shouldn't also be despising our ladies who are properly dressed and are not "offering" the forbidden fruit to every tom, dick and harry that comes in the way.
Exactly you are good and we are evil.
So that is why you should stay away.
It is just not possible for a good person to remain good in our society.
Hey there! Looks like you're enjoying the discussion, but you're not signed up for an account.
When you create an account, we remember exactly what you've read, so you always come right back where you left off. You also get notifications, here and via email, whenever new posts are made. And you can like posts and share your thoughts. Sign Up
Hide
Looks like you're enjoying the discussion, but you're not signed up for an account.
Bookmarks