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    Why Islam is not Acceptable to West!!!

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    From the western point of views that ISLAM is a threat to Western World. A threat to all evils - commercial evils, business evils, economic evils and also political evils, which are found freely in so called our developed western nations:

    1. Islam prohibits alcohol - thus it will stop all business relating to alcohol [Industry, Bars, Night Clubs, etc] - Billion dollars of business will be closed.

    2. Islam prohibits free sex, prostitutions - again billion dollars of sex, and prostitutes industries will be closed

    3. Islam prohibits commercialization of women - thus billion dollars of putting naked or half naked women in advertisements will be lost.

    4. Islam prohibits interest in Banking - thus all Financial Institutions will be closed and change to Islamic Banking Systems.

    5. Islam prohibits injustice - thus the whole legal systems of western world need to be changed - Lawyer Firms will be closed.

    6.Islam prohibits terrorisms and war - thus billion dollars of defense industries will be closed.

    7. Islam prohibits rocks dancing - thus billion dollars music /rock festivals will be closed.

    8. Islam prohibits gambling - thus billion dollars casinos will be closed.

    9. Islam prohibits free sex - thus billion dollars porno sex films industry will be closed.

    10. Islam prohibits abuse of drugs - thus billion dollars of illegal drugs business will be lost.

    Thus ISLAM is a threat, and by whatever means MUST be stopped to reach the western world. For example the slaughtering of 7 million muslims in Spain is a good example. Even Islam in Spain at that time was very much advanced, in knowledge, sciences, industries - our Christian European was in the dark age, yet ISLAM must be stopped.

    Logically and scientifically, I strongly feel, and others too, that whatever ISLAM prohibits are good to mankind. BUT! BUT!

    SURELY WITH THE PRESENT BUSINESS WORLD WITH FULL OF EVILS - WHICH BRING IN BILLION OF DOLLARS WILL NOT LIKE ISLAM. ALL EFFORTS MUST BE CARRIED OUT TO STOP ISLAM.

    Generally, these are the feelings the West hold against Islam.

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    yes, yes and yes you said it akhee lollll Allahu Akbar wa La Ilaha IlAllah wa Muhammad-an Roosulillah aameen
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    Re: Why Islam is not Acceptable to West!!!

    format_quote Originally Posted by silkworm View Post
    From the western point of views that ISLAM is a threat to Western World. A threat to all evils - commercial evils, business evils, economic evils and also political evils, which are found freely in so called our developed western nations:

    1. Islam prohibits alcohol - thus it will stop all business relating to alcohol [Industry, Bars, Night Clubs, etc] - Billion dollars of business will be closed.

    2. Islam prohibits free sex, prostitutions - again billion dollars of sex, and prostitutes industries will be closed

    3. Islam prohibits commercialization of women - thus billion dollars of putting naked or half naked women in advertisements will be lost.

    4. Islam prohibits interest in Banking - thus all Financial Institutions will be closed and change to Islamic Banking Systems.

    5. Islam prohibits injustice - thus the whole legal systems of western world need to be changed - Lawyer Firms will be closed.

    6.Islam prohibits terrorisms and war - thus billion dollars of defense industries will be closed.

    7. Islam prohibits rocks dancing - thus billion dollars music /rock festivals will be closed.

    8. Islam prohibits gambling - thus billion dollars casinos will be closed.

    9. Islam prohibits free sex - thus billion dollars porno sex films industry will be closed.

    10. Islam prohibits abuse of drugs - thus billion dollars of illegal drugs business will be lost.

    Thus ISLAM is a threat, and by whatever means MUST be stopped to reach the western world. For example the slaughtering of 7 million muslims in Spain is a good example. Even Islam in Spain at that time was very much advanced, in knowledge, sciences, industries - our Christian European was in the dark age, yet ISLAM must be stopped.

    Logically and scientifically, I strongly feel, and others too, that whatever ISLAM prohibits are good to mankind. BUT! BUT!

    SURELY WITH THE PRESENT BUSINESS WORLD WITH FULL OF EVILS - WHICH BRING IN BILLION OF DOLLARS WILL NOT LIKE ISLAM. ALL EFFORTS MUST BE CARRIED OUT TO STOP ISLAM.

    Generally, these are the feelings the West hold against Islam.
    Yes, and thats why the West is without wars, has good stable social security systems, hightec medecine, good running industry, export goods worldwide, high level of eductation...and and and...

    On the other side, where Islam rules are wars, people are starving, need 'kuffar' medecine to survive, there is barely education, women still have barely few rights, kids get teached to fire guns, etc....

    I don't know where you come out again to spew venom around, but I live in the west, and I have no hard feelings towards Islam. But me as a western person, I will of course never tolerate that Islam will influent my lifestyle.
    And I'm pretty sure, you will act the same on your side. So, we can manage it to live as good neighbours, that will infact be the only option I see !
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    format_quote Originally Posted by guyabano View Post
    Yes, and thats why the West is without wars, has good stable social security systems, hightec medecine, good running industry, export goods worldwide, high level of eductation...and and and...

    On the other side, where Islam rules are wars, people are starving, need 'kuffar' medecine to survive, there is barely education, women still have barely few rights, etc....

    I don't know where you come out again to spew venom around, but I live in the west, and I have no hard feelings towards Islam. But me as a western person, I will of course never tolerate that Islam will influent my lifestyle.
    And I'm pretty sure, you will act the same on your side. So, we can manage it to live as good neighbours, that will infact be the only option I see !
    Well quite. The OP might have moral and/or religious objections to porno, advertising, interest, drink, and extreme metal (although I did once encounter some Jihadist grindcore on the internets!) but that doesn't give them the right to impose their moral order on the rest of the world. If they object to it so strongly, then I'm certain that with a bit of effort they can avoid engaging in such things?

    Also, the OP fails for putting words into the mouths of myself and all the other kaffirs. Speaking of which, I'm surprised some smart aleck's not boycotting South Africa for banning the pejorative use of that word.
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    Re: Why Islam is not Acceptable to West!!!

    format_quote Originally Posted by Encolpius View Post
    Well quite. The OP might have moral and/or religious objections to porno, advertising, interest, drink, and extreme metal (although I did once encounter some Jihadist grindcore on the internets!) but that doesn't give them the right to impose their moral order on the rest of the world. If they object to it so strongly, then I'm certain that with a bit of effort they can avoid engaging in such things?

    Also, the OP fails for putting words into the mouths of myself and all the other kaffirs. Speaking of which, I'm surprised some smart aleck's not boycotting South Africa for banning the pejorative use of that word.
    Well, what pi** me off most is, that west must immedialtely be evil when it doesn't fit in some persons image. No, we built up this place and this is the way it is. I'm non-smoker, non-drinker, neither visit any bars. I'm an faithful husband and father but still, this is my lifestyle. It's not some religious persons with different views who are going to change it. I'm pretty sure, there can be a coexistence but wanting to come to the west and insulting all westerners as evil but then complaining, nobody like them ! No, it doesn't work like that
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    Re: Why Islam is not Acceptable to West!!!

    Greetings,

    A wonderfully naive piece of whimsy from the OP, there. Lovely.

    Prohibition of alcohol and drugs has failed wherever it's been tried, forcing huge amounts of money into the hands of criminals. Prohibiting them and all the other things listed would be a disaster on a colossal scale.

    Westerners would have to be pretty stupid to accept those proposals and use them to inform future policy.

    Peace

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    Re: Why Islam is not Acceptable to West!!!

    Why Islam is not Acceptable to West?
    Easy answer.
    Most Westerners like the freedoms that come from a “Secular Democracy” and have no interest in becoming second class citizens of a Theocracy.

    Well maybe it isn’t just Westerners.
    There are major migrations from East to West and only minor migrations the other way.

    I guess one needs to change there thought process and come to the conclusion that things are so wonderful in the East that they want to migrate West so life won’t be so grand.

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    Free sex, alcoholism, injustice, wars , gambling or grug addictions arent fundaments of Western Civilization. Just like terrorism, opression of women, stagnation, lack of education, arent fundaments of islamic civilization.
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    Re: Why Islam is not Acceptable to West!!!

    format_quote Originally Posted by wilberhum View Post

    Well maybe it isn’t just Westerners.
    There are major migrations from East to West and only minor migrations the other way.
    Those people vote using their legs dear Wilberhum.
    Why Islam is not Acceptable to West!!!

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    Re: Why Islam is not Acceptable to West!!!

    Wilberhum, Guyabano,CzGibson, it seems that we have just defended the West . All what we used were just wise and straight arguments . The most deadly weapon for every silly ideas.
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    Re: Why Islam is not Acceptable to West!!!

    format_quote Originally Posted by Aaron85 View Post
    Wilberhum, Guyabano,CzGibson, it seems that we have just defended the West . All what we used were just wise and straight arguments . The most deadly weapon for every silly ideas.
    You mean we didn't blame it on CNN?

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    Re: Why Islam is not Acceptable to West!!!

    Greetings,
    format_quote Originally Posted by Aaron85 View Post
    Wilberhum, Guyabano,CzGibson, it seems that we have just defended the West . All what we used were just wise and straight arguments . The most deadly weapon for every silly ideas.
    I think there must be many sensible Muslims who are truly fed up with some of the stupidity (not to mention violence) that is promoted in the name of defending Islam.

    Still, we have to remember that there are a lot of young people here on the forum. They are not necessarily the best advert for their religion.

    Peace

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    Re: Why Islam is not Acceptable to West!!!

    format_quote Originally Posted by wilberhum View Post
    You mean we didn't blame it on CNN?
    dont say it loud, it is our secret weapon. :laugh:
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    Re: Why Islam is not Acceptable to West!!!

    I removed my post after reading the other post.

    Thank you my islamic brothers, you said it better than I could.

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    Last edited by AB517; 08-09-2007 at 01:38 AM. Reason: I over reacted

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    Re: Why Islam is not Acceptable to West!!!

    format_quote Originally Posted by czgibson View Post
    Greetings,


    I think there must be many sensible Muslims who are truly fed up with some of the stupidity (not to mention violence) that is promoted in the name of defending Islam.

    Still, we have to remember that there are a lot of young people here on the forum. They are not necessarily the best advert for their religion.

    Peace
    Such ironic remarks do pop up when one has no answer.
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    Who can be more irrational than those who say: Design is possible without a designer ??

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    Re: Why Islam is not Acceptable to West!!!

    There is a great truth in the words of brother silkworm, that Islam poses a threat to the unjust free market system that prevails in the West, where anything goes as long as it sells and makes profits. Western society is drunk with the charms of wealth and hedonistic pleasures. In short, Western society has fallen in love with this transient world. Islam, on the other hand, is a dynamic religion, which teaches that we should uphold our humanity with all its morals and personal virtues of selflessness, rather than steep down to the level of animals where all we want is more and more.

    The following ayat of the Holy Quran is a beautiful answer to the Western culture of consumerism and materialism:

    The life of this world is alluring to those who reject faith, and they scoff at those who believe. But the righteous will be above them on the Day of Resurrection; for Allah bestows His abundance without measure on whom He will (2:212)

    As human beings, we are always wanting more, yet we are never satisfied. Even in the West where it is a precedent in human history that the common man has more than even what an ancient king could only wish for, yet there is a grave unhappiness and emptiness in people lives. But this ayat says Allah will bestow an abundance upon those who are righteous and are not deceived by the allures and charms of this life, and they alone will be content with the provision of their Maker. Subhan Allah! We should rejoice over this promise and genuine glad-tiding, and we should feel sorry for those who have been deceived by Satan's vain charms.

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    Re: Why Islam is not Acceptable to West!!!

    Greetings,
    format_quote Originally Posted by asadxyz View Post
    Such ironic remarks do pop up when one has no answer.
    Would you care to explain what you mean by that? Which ironic remarks? Who has no answer?

    Peace

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    Re: Why Islam is not Acceptable to West!!!

    someone mentioned its impossible to ban alcohol,


    the prophet sallallahi alaihi wasallaam done it at his times causing the streets to flow with wine (due to it being thrown away to such great extents).

    and dont get it wrong, there were people who were infatuated with alcohol, they just had the right help and a better direction then the people of today (islam).



    as for wilberhum putting down the east by saying more migrate to the west, STUDY ECONOMY!!!!! MAYB YOU'LL REALISE SOMETHING!

    the west is starving other nations, THEY DONT EVEN WANT AFRICA TO USE ELECTRICITY? they hog all the wealth etc, seriously... i cant believe how blind some people can be.


    media brainwashing i guess
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    Re: Why Islam is not Acceptable to West!!!

    format_quote Originally Posted by IbnAbdulHakim View Post
    someone mentioned its impossible to ban alcohol,


    the prophet sallallahi alaihi wasallaam done it at his times causing the streets to flow with wine (due to it being thrown away to such great extents).

    and dont get it wrong, there were people who were infatuated with alcohol, they just had the right help and a better direction then the people of today (islam).



    as for wilberhum putting down the east by saying more migrate to the west, STUDY ECONOMY!!!!! MAYB YOU'LL REALISE SOMETHING!

    the west is starving other nations, THEY DONT EVEN WANT AFRICA TO USE ELECTRICITY? they hog all the wealth etc, seriously... i cant believe how blind some people can be.


    media brainwashing i guess
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    Re: Why Islam is not Acceptable to West!!!

    Greetings,
    format_quote Originally Posted by IbnAbdulHakim View Post
    someone mentioned its impossible to ban alcohol,


    the prophet sallallahi alaihi wasallaam done it at his times causing the streets to flow with wine (due to it being thrown away to such great extents).

    and dont get it wrong, there were people who were infatuated with alcohol, they just had the right help and a better direction then the people of today (islam).
    Did he manage to ban alcohol from an entire country? Just try that today and watch the criminals rake in profits from bootlegging. Theoretically it's not impossible, but the probability is very strong that it would be a total disaster.

    as for wilberhum putting down the east by saying more migrate to the west, STUDY ECONOMY!!!!! MAYB YOU'LL REALISE SOMETHING!
    Yes, people move to the West in search of economic security, among heaps of other advantages.

    the west is starving other nations, THEY DONT EVEN WANT AFRICA TO USE ELECTRICITY? they hog all the wealth etc, seriously... i cant believe how blind some people can be.
    I thought I'd heard most of the conspiracy theories around, but evidently not. Any evidence to support this idea?

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