It is recorded Kitab-ul- Ib’dah [Book containing maliki Fiqh] To shave the beard is haraam and to trim it Shaving the beard is prohibited, as is cutting it if it causes a (clear) mutilation- Why is this?
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It is recorded Kitab-ul- Ib’dah [Book containing maliki Fiqh] To shave the beard is haraam and to trim it Shaving the beard is prohibited, as is cutting it if it causes a (clear) mutilation- Why is this?
Why is it prohibited to shave the beard?
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Question: What is the ruling on shaving the beard or removing part of it?
Answer:
Praise be to Allaah.
Shaving the beard is haraam because of the saheeh ahaadeeth that clearly state this, and because of the general application of texts that forbid resembling the kuffaar. One of these reports is the hadeeth of Ibn ‘Umar who said that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Be different from the mushrikeen: let your beards grow and trim your moustaches.” According to another report: “Trim your moustaches and let your beards grow.” There are other hadeeth which convey the same meaning, which is to leave the beard as it is and let it grow long, without shaving, plucking or cutting any part of it. Ibn Hazm reported that there was scholarly consensus that it is an obligation (fard) to trim the moustache and let the beard grow. He quoted a number of ahaadeeth as evidence, including the hadeeth of Ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) quoted above, and the hadeeth of Zayd ibn Arqam in which the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever does not remove any of his moustache is not one of us.” (Classed as saheeh by al-Tirmidhi). Ibn Hazm said in al-Furoo’: “This is the way of our colleagues [i.e., the Hanbalis].”
Is it haraam (to shave it)? Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: “The Qur’aan, Sunnah and ijmaa’ (scholarly consensus) all indicate that we must differ from the kuffaar in all aspects and not imitate them, because imitating them on the outside will make us imitate them in their bad deeds and habits, and even in beliefs, which will result in befriending them in our hearts, just as loving them in our hearts will lead to imitating them on the outside. Al-Tirmidhi reported that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “He is not one of us who imitates people other than us. Do not imitate the Jews and Christians.” According to another version: “Whoever imitates a people is one of them.” (Reported by Imaam Ahmad) ‘Umar ibn al-Khattaab rejected the testimony of the person who plucked his beard. Imaam Ibn ‘Abd al-Barr said in al-Tamheed: “It is forbidden to shave the beard, and no one does this except men who are effeminate” i.e., those who imitate women. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) had a thick beard (reported by Muslim from Jaabir). It is not permitted to remove any part of the beard because of the general meaning of the texts which forbid doing so.
I ask because a few of my Sikh brothers ahve been mocked by so called muslims about having beards. Whne they are told Islam forbids you from cutting facial hair, they laugh and say it's a lie.
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Dhan Guru Arjan Dev Mahraaj Ji!
Kal Meh Bėḏ Atharbaṇ Hū Nā Kẖuḏā Alhu Bẖa.
In the Dark Age of Kali Yuga, the Atharva Veda became prominent; Allah became the Name of God.
I ask because a few of my Sikh brothers ahve been mocked by so called muslims about having beards. Whne they are told Islam forbids you from cutting facial hair, they laugh and say it's a lie.
May Allah guide me and them
Just ask them if they believe inthe Hadeeth of the prophet, peace be upon him.
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The Prophet saaws said oppose the mushrikuwn, trim the mostache and grow the beard. If a brother denys that then i feel sorry for him, because firstly he has opposed the Prophet and not the mushrikuwn and secondly he has agreed with the mushrikuwn.
This brother needs to decide whos sunnah he wants to follow, Prophet Muhammads or George Bushs.
A person with personal hatred in the heart will argue, however the one who questions his sincerity will reason.
I ask because a few of my Sikh brothers ahve been mocked by so called muslims about having beards. Whne they are told Islam forbids you from cutting facial hair, they laugh and say it's a lie.
They are secular muslims. They have little to no knowledge of islam these same people say music is allowed.
Last edited by Islamicboy; 11-24-2006 at 02:36 AM.
Trimming means trimming it closly and not having the mostache going over the top lip, and the trimming of the beard has the limit of four fingers according to your fingers (palm length) wasalams
A person with personal hatred in the heart will argue, however the one who questions his sincerity will reason.
if you are a sikh, what are you doing with a book on maliki fiqh, shouldn't u be lookinmg at something more basic, isn't keeping a beard a must in sikhism
Trimming means trimming it closly and not having the mostache going over the top lip, and the trimming of the beard has the limit of four fingers according to your fingers (palm length) wasalams
Actually I dont think thats the strong view, some say that trimming it is mukhrooh, disliked.
There is no recommended or specified length of the beard, because nothing to that effect has been narrated from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). What has been reported is that the beard should be left as it is.
Muslim (2344) reported that Jaabir ibn Samurah (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: “The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) used to have a very hairy beard.”
An-Nisaa’ (5232) reported from al-Baraa’ that he (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) had a thick beard; according to another report, he had a bushy beard; according to another report, he had a wide beard.
Some scholars permit cutting the hair of the beard that exceeds the amount that may be grasped in the fist, because Ibn ‘Umar did this; but most of the scholars regard this as makrooh, which is more apparent because of the reports referred to above.
Source If you had read the link brother Ahmed posted on the reccomended length that is what it says
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The beard, some consider to be the hair on the chin, jaw bone and cheeks.
Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah preserve him) said: The definition of the beard as stated by the scholars of (Arabic) language is: the hair of the face, jawbone and cheeks, in the sense that all the hair on the cheeks, jawbone and chin is part of the beard and removing any of it is counted as a sin, because the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Let your beards grow,” “Leave your beards alone,” “Let your beards increase,” “Let your beards be full.” This indicates that it is not permissible to remove anything from the beard. But the sin may vary in degree – shaving the beard is worse than shortening it, because it is a more obvious contradiction of the Sunnah.
THis is also from the same above source
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Its a fiqh issue in which there is ikhtilaaf, therefore i am not going to dispute. I cant say Ibn Umar was wrong and did something that Allah disliked, neither can i say the scholars who said that trimming the beard to the fistfull are wrong, i may not know all the evidences but encourage that the beard be grown down to where the heart lays within the chest. Thats where we should grow the beard from and not just from the face.
A person with personal hatred in the heart will argue, however the one who questions his sincerity will reason.
if you are a sikh, what are you doing with a book on maliki fiqh, shouldn't u be lookinmg at something more basic, isn't keeping a beard a must in sikhism
I like to learn about other religions
Yes it is essential in Sikhism to retain the hair. Just as Jesus, Mohammed, Krishna and Buddha and all other great Prophets did during their time.
Ėk Gusā Alhu Mėrā
The One Lord, the Lord of the World, is my God Allah.
Dhan Guru Arjan Dev Mahraaj Ji!
Kal Meh Bėḏ Atharbaṇ Hū Nā Kẖuḏā Alhu Bẖa.
In the Dark Age of Kali Yuga, the Atharva Veda became prominent; Allah became the Name of God.
But is that a cultural issue of a religious issue?
None of them wore pants, or used zippers, or traveled by airplane.
Just because they could have done something but didn't, how does that make it prohibitted for everyone else?
Muhammad (May Allah's Peace and Blessings be Upon Him) specifically prescribed the beard so it is a completely different matter and the Qur'aan speaks of obeisance to the him just so you know.
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