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    I dont know if I'm allowed to do this but the following link containis a comparison of Jesus and Muhammad from a Muslim perspective. It is taken from the answering christianity website.
    http://www.answering-christianity.co...d_compared.htm
    Many of you Muslims must be familiar with it.
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    Re: Answering Christianty

    format_quote Originally Posted by john316 View Post
    I dont know if I'm allowed to do this but the following link containis a comparison of Jesus and Muhammad from a Muslim perspective. It is taken from the answering christianity website.
    http://www.answering-christianity.co...d_compared.htm
    Many of you Muslims must be familiar with it.
    What is your point in posting this? As Muslims we are very much aware of our perspective of Jesus, pbuh. However, our non-muslim friends are the ones that may not be aware, so please feel free to post it on non-muslims forums.

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    well i guess i posted it for your benefit. You might want to take a look at it. Are you familiar with that site?
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    Re: Answering Christianty

    format_quote Originally Posted by john316 View Post
    well i guess i posted it for your benefit. You might want to take a look at it. Are you familiar with that site?
    LOL John, yes, we are familiar with that site, but we are far more familiar with our understanding of Jesus, pbuh.

    You should understand that this site is in response to an Islam hate site and it may be in your best interest to search other wonderful Islamic learning sites that offer a ton of information about Islam. This forum and site is a great place to start and the site in my signature is another great place. There are many reputable sites and I do encourage you to visit them.

    Learn for the sake of learning and not for reverting or whatever. Just be open minded and learn. You don't have to embrace anything. Nothing wrong with gaining knowledge and understanding.

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    no i am just curious so i dont think it is a reliable source then. in knowing abt Islam. glad to hear that. I dont think you claim all of it to be true. But one thing I dont understand is why would you try to demonize Jesus in this site saying that he is a child killer. Wasnt he a pious man according to Islam
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    format_quote Originally Posted by john316 View Post
    no i am just curious so i dont think it is a reliable source then. in knowing abt Islam. glad to hear that. I dont think you claim all of it to be true. But one thing I dont understand is why would you try to demonize Jesus in this site saying that he is a child killer. Wasnt he a pious man according to Islam
    Huh??? We don't claim all of what to be true? And demonize Jesus?? I have no clue what you're talking about.
    **UPDATE** Ok, now I know what you're referring to. I think you don't realize what you've read. It is NOT Islam portraying Jesus, pbuh, in this light. Those verses are from your Bible, NOT the Qur'an. I'm afraid you'll have to discuss that with the biblical scholars. In Islam we hold Jesus, pbuh, and all the chosen Prophets of God in the highest esteem. As Muslims we love and revere Prophet Jesus, pbuh and would never say such things. So, why the biblical writers would say something so vile is beyond my comprehension.

    As far as whether or not that site is reliable, I can't make that call as it's not a site I use for resource or research. My point is that it is responding to an Islam hate site and it would be better for you to learn the basics of the Islamic faith before you jump in trying to understand points being refuted.

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    Re: Answering Christianty

    Of course the site is 'unreliable' as a source of unbiased information. So is the "answering Islam" equivalent for exactly the same reason, both have a particular agenda and the content pushes that and not any other point of view. Note the word 'unbiased'; it's not so much that information presented is 'wrong' as the absence of the other side of any argument in anything but misrepresented or incomplete form.
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    Re: Answering Christianty

    format_quote Originally Posted by Hana_Aku View Post
    Huh??? We don't claim all of what to be true? And demonize Jesus?? I have no clue what you're talking about.
    **UPDATE** Ok, now I know what you're referring to. I think you don't realize what you've read. It is NOT Islam portraying Jesus, pbuh, in this light. Those verses are from your Bible, NOT the Qur'an. I'm afraid you'll have to discuss that with the biblical scholars. In Islam we hold Jesus, pbuh, and all the chosen Prophets of God in the highest esteem. As Muslims we love and revere Prophet Jesus, pbuh and would never say such things. So, why the biblical writers would say something so vile is beyond my comprehension.

    As far as whether or not that site is reliable, I can't make that call as it's not a site I use for resource or research. My point is that it is responding to an Islam hate site and it would be better for you to learn the basics of the Islamic faith before you jump in trying to understand points being refuted.

    Peace,
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    which verses are you talking about? It's from Revelations. In any case I appreciate your honesty. I have been to Islamic hae sites and I know that it has some of it's own biasis. This hate site is no different. I do not create Islam hate sites. and I dont want to. I am a defender of the Chrsitian faith and at the same time trying understand other faiths.
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    Re: Answering Christianty

    format_quote Originally Posted by john316 View Post
    I dont know if I'm allowed to do this but the following link containis a comparison of Jesus and Muhammad from a Muslim perspective. It is taken from the answering christianity website.
    http://www.answering-christianity.co...d_compared.htm
    Many of you Muslims must be familiar with it.
    Yes I find this an absurd way to tell christians the greatness of Muhammed aleyhissalam.
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    first of all in the Bible when something is said you have to consider who said it, when it was said, where it was said, how it was said, to whom it was said, and why it was said.
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    Re: Answering Christianty

    format_quote Originally Posted by john316 View Post
    first of all in the Bible when something is said you have to consider who said it, when it was said, where it was said, how it was said, to whom it was said, and why it was said.
    So what exactly are you saying? Is part of the bible made up or is all factual?
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    format_quote Originally Posted by anatolian View Post
    Yes I find this an absurd way to tell christians the greatness of Muhammed salalallaahu aleyhiwassalam.

    Fixed.

    Question: Did any of the men who composed the bible actually live when Jesus (as) did?
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    I am a Chrsitian so what do you expect me to believe.

    And I dont understand why the scholars of Islam like Deedat, Dr Naik oick verses from the Bible and claim it;s not authoratative. Jesus said you are either hot or you are not. Being lukewarm doesnt even qualify us to be his diciple. So if the Bible is made up you either believe it or you dont. Some of the arguments from Deedat also takes verses out of context so it apparently looses it's meaning. The Bible is to be considered as a whole.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Sister-Ameena* View Post
    Fixed.

    Question: Did any of the men who composed the bible actually live when Jesus (as) did?
    Hebrews 12:14
    [ Warning Against Refusing God ] Make every effort to live in peace with all men and to be holy; without holiness no one will see the Lord.

    That's just one verse.

    I think 11 out of the 12 diciples(John was the exception) lost their lives for their professin on Christ.
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    Believe in what you want. I'm not here to force my beliefs on anyone. I don't understand your statement of the bible is to be taken as a whole but we have to consider who wrote it.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by JeffX View Post
    Believe in what you want. I'm not here to force my beliefs on anyone. I don't understand your statement of the bible is to be taken as a whole but we have to consider who wrote it.

    you can lokk back to the discovery of the dead sea scrolls. they match exactly the same as the old testament. the new testament has around 24000 old manuscripts. It doesnt contradict itself in any way only in minute details. where men wrote from different perpectives. But you have 40 different authors having the same testimony of Jesus Christ. All the 40 author validate each other.


    The Quran has just one author.

    Why would God give us just one man's testimony. Muhammad contradicted every prophet.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by john316 View Post
    you can lokk back to the discovery of the dead sea scrolls. they match exactly the same as the old testament. the new testament has around 24000 old manuscripts. It doesnt contradict itself in any way only in minute details. where men wrote from different perpectives. But you have 40 different authors having the same testimony of Jesus Christ. All the 40 author validate each other.


    The Quran has just one author.

    Why would God give us just one man's testimony. Muhammad contradicted every prophet.
    How?
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    if not every prophet. more than any other prophet in the Bible. The other writers may contradict themselves on a few occassions.
    First of all the you say satan is some jinn or whoever. who disobeyed God because he didnt want to prostrate before Adam. Well I dont know how you interpret that. But everywhere in scripture it says satan was the highest angel who fell because of his pride. Is not mentioned in the Hadith or somewhere that your prophet said it takes so many lies to make you liar. Correct me if I'm wrong. Frm a human perpective yea it makes sense. From God's perpective it takes just one lie to be a liar. God cannot lie. You think God tells one lie.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by john316 View Post
    Hebrews 12:14
    [ Warning Against Refusing God ] Make every effort to live in peace with all men and to be holy; without holiness no one will see the Lord.

    That's just one verse.

    I think 11 out of the 12 diciples(John was the exception) lost their lives for their professin on Christ.
    That doesn't answer my question.

    format_quote Originally Posted by john316 View Post
    The Quran has just one author.
    Allaah subhana wa ta'ala. It's just logic.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by john316 View Post
    Hebrews 12:14
    [ Warning Against Refusing God ] Make every effort to live in peace with all men and to be holy; without holiness no one will see the Lord.

    That's just one verse.

    I think 11 out of the 12 diciples(John was the exception) lost their lives for their professin on Christ.
    Oh i'm sorry i over read your question.

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