The purpose of this thread is to expose the contents of the bible that alot of people including christians and jews are unaware of. Its also to expose the hypocrisy of some christians and jews who try but fail at attacking the quran and at the same time will overlook the verses in their own bible. The purpose is also to show how badly the original true scriptures sent down by Allah and preached by our prophets have been modified and added to.
I don't expect christians or jews to justify these verses - since the meanings are quite clear, you're welcome to do so though. But please do not use the following excuses: meaning was lost in translation, the verse had a metaphorical meaning, verse not to be taken literally, you dismiss parts of bible eg; the OT, verse was not by god or jesus or whoever, they're out of context etc etc. At the end of the day its in your 'holy book' called the bible.
I'll start off with the violent verses advocating murder
-Ezekiel 9:5-7 "Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. god threatens to kill women and children
-Hosea 13:16 (King James) Samaria will bear her guilt because she has rebelled against her God.
They will fall by the sword; their little ones will be dashed to pieces, and their pregnant women ripped open.god threatens to kill pregnant women and children by the sword
-Ezekiel 23 - 25 I will direct my jealous anger against you, and they will deal with you in fury. They will cut off your noses and your ears, and those of you who are left will fall by the sword. They will take away your sons and daughters, and those of you who are left will be consumed by fire. 26 They will also strip you of your clothes and take your fine jewelry. god threatens more slaughter
-Exodus 31:15 For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD. Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day must be put to death. god commands you to kill those who work on the sabbath
-If a man or woman living among you in one of the towns the LORD gives you is found doing evil in the eyes of the LORD your God in violation of his covenant, and contrary to my command has worshiped other gods, bowing down to them or to the sun or the moon or the stars of the sky… Take the man or woman who has done this evil deed to your city gate and stone that person to death. – Deut 17:2-7 god commands you to kill anyone who worships other gods
-Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases…you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. Deuteronomy 13:7-12: Again you must massacre everyone follows different religions
-If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods …do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. - Deut 13:7-12 no mercy for anyone who worships another god - they all must die even if they're family
-Anyone who blasphemes the name of the LORD must be put to death. The entire assembly must stone him. – Lev 24:16 who says blasphemy of god isn't a big deal - the 'LORD' commands you to kill them
-All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. - Leviticus 20:9 disrespectful children must be killed too, funny how alot of people in this country are still alive
-If someone has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey his father and mother, who does not heed them when they discipline him, then his father and his mother shall ... say to the elders of his town, ‘This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a glutton and a drunkard.’ Then all the men of the town shall stone him to death. - Deut 21 looks like big emphasis on respect to parents otherwise you face death
-If your hand or your foot causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life maimed or crippled than to have two hands or two feet and be thrown into eternal fire. And if your eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into the fire of hell. - Matthew 18:7-9 big emphasis on not sinning to the extent you should amputate yourself, what's jesus salvation good for then?
-Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man by lying with him. But all the young girls who have not known man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves. - Numbers 31 god wants you to kill little boys and women who have fornicated, little girls can be kept as slaves
-If a man beats his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies as a direct result, he must be punished, but he is not to be punished if the slave gets up after a day or two, since the slave is his property. - Exodus Chapter 21:20 killing a slave not a big deal
-"Take all the heads of the people and hang them up before the Lord against the sun.” -- Numbers 25:4 I wonder which people?
-"... at midnight the Lord smote all the first born in the land of Egypt, from the first born of the pharaoh...unto the first born of the captive that was in the dungeon; and all the first born cattle" -- Exodus 12:29 god says he killed all newly born children in egypt
- "Their children shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes! There houses spoiled, and their wives raped...Dash the young men to pieces...have no pity on the fruit of the womb, the children shall not be spared" -- Isa 13:16-18 god wants you to rape women, kill pregnant women and kill children
-“Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.” --Psalms 137:9 god recommends killing your children
-“And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head. And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the Lord. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.” -- 2kings2:23-24 god kills children for mockin a bald girl
-46 "This is what the Sovereign LORD says: Bring a mob against them and give them over to terror and plunder. 47 The mob will stone them and cut them down with their swords; they will kill their sons and daughters and burn down their houses. Reminds us of all the war crimes against muslims dont it? palestine, iraq, afghanistan...
Next up verses with the obsession of human waste and pornographic description
Last edited by aadil77; 04-28-2010 at 12:45 AM.
Reason: added some more
He it is Who sends blessings on you, as do His angels, that He may bring you out from the depths of Darkness into Light: and He is Full of Mercy to the Believers. [Quran {33:43}] www.QuranicAudio.com www.Quran.com
No it isnt because 1 -there is no evedince for it 2 - God specifically gave a warning to the people that commited sodomy.
You could be right. Please see my post number 96.
On the one hand, it is difficult to believe that there were at that time no children and even unborn babies in Sodom as there would be in any large community of people. But on the other hand, God assures us that he will not destroy the righteous along with the wicked (Genesis 18:23), not even as many as ten (Genesis 18:32).
I do not think this thread brings glory to God in any way at all, and I fail to see how it is helpful to either Islam or Christianity.
We are all created by the same wonderful God, and the same God hears all our prayers. We have a duty to care for all of God’s creation, and that has to include caring for each other.
In the spirit of praying for a greater interfaith understanding and friendship.
Eric
You will never look into the eyes of anyone who does not matter to God.
Soorah 11:78-79 speaks of Lot's daughters which I believe Muslim commentators understand to refer to other women in the city (i.e. not his literal daughters). And with such a sex-crazed atmosphere it would be surprising if at least some of such women were not pregnant (otherwise why would Lot suggest that the mob have the women instead of his guests?) Also Genesis 19:4 indicates that young ones were there in the city ("from boy to old man").
Asalaam O Alaikum Brothers/sisters....
I just would like to say, that Quran specifically speaks about how does Allah (swt) deals with those righteous people who are among the evil folks who get punished...
(6:47) Say "Can you imagine what your condition will be if God's chastisement befalls you, either suddenly or in a (gradually) perceptible manner ? (but then) will any but evil doing folk (ever) be destroyed ?"
The way of Allah (swt) dealing with nations in the past and the present is the same, the Way (Sunnat) of Allah never changes...
(30:30)... No change should there be in the creation of Allah ....
when Allah says in the Quran.... (but then) will any but evil doing folk (ever) be destroyed...is clear that Allah (swt) when ever destroyed the previous nations for their evil, He destroyed the evil among them and NOT the good ones, but does that mean the good ones were all dead before ? No ... but what Allah tells us here that, by the word "destroy" ... it means that the righteous even if they suffered a physical destruction, they are bound to attain spiritual bliss and are not "destroyed" like the evil doing folks, who are destroyed not only in this world but also in the Hereafter....
I do not think this thread brings glory to God in any way at all, and I fail to see how it is helpful to either Islam or Christianity.
We are all created by the same wonderful God, and the same God hears all our prayers. We have a duty to care for all of God’s creation, and that has to include caring for each other.
In the spirit of praying for a greater interfaith understanding and friendship.
Eric
did the holy spirit inspire the pornography in the bible? seems like god is bringing dishonour to himself. i forget, god is simply humbling himself? oh no, its only the jesus section which is humble, since the holy spirit inspired the bible we conclude the holy spirit is a bit perverted.
This post shows us glo's truer color, which is a christian warrior in the inside.
If by 'Christian warrior' you mean somebody who tries to stand up for fairness, justice and peace, then I am quite happy with your description.
Ummu Sufyaan made a comment which I thought was unfair towards another poster, and I felt it worth commenting on.
Under different circumstances I might have chosen not to comment, but Hiroshi is a new member here and I wanted him to be aware that the views expressed by Ummu Sufyaan were not necessarily representative of the forum as a whole.
That's why I thought it was worth referring back to Woodrow's recent thread in general, and to his comments made here in particular.
Peace glo
Here I stand.
I can do no other.
May God help me.
Amen.
Come, let us worship and bow down •
and kneel before the Lord our Maker
[Psalm 95]
This post shows us glo's truer color, which is a christian warrior in the inside.
I wouldn't call her a 'christian warrior ' albeit it a 'true christian warrior' isn't any more apt at what they do, not much to sell folks by way of mangods.. just a woman using her wiles and sugar coating ever much hoping that it is deceptive to the majority.. except everyone sees right through it-- I believe even her own kind!
I really despise 'ganging up' on someone, but I wanted to assure you that what you know is known to most..
Last edited by جوري; 07-17-2010 at 05:22 PM.
Reason: to please her ladyship!
Text without context is pretext If your opponent is of choleric temperament, seek to irritate him
I just would like to say, that Quran specifically speaks about how does Allah (swt) deals with those righteous people who are among the evil folks who get punished...
(6:47) Say "Can you imagine what your condition will be if God's chastisement befalls you, either suddenly or in a (gradually) perceptible manner ? (but then) will any but evil doing folk (ever) be destroyed ?"
Yes, yes. The Bible says similar things. Please refer to my later posts number 96 and 102.
I just would like to say, that Quran specifically speaks about how does Allah (swt) deals with those righteous people who are among the evil folks who get punished...
(6:47) Say "Can you imagine what your condition will be if God's chastisement befalls you, either suddenly or in a (gradually) perceptible manner ? (but then) will any but evil doing folk (ever) be destroyed ?"
The way of Allah (swt) dealing with nations in the past and the present is the same, the Way (Sunnat) of Allah never changes...
(30:30)... No change should there be in the creation of Allah ....
when Allah says in the Quran.... (but then) will any but evil doing folk (ever) be destroyed...is clear that Allah (swt) when ever destroyed the previous nations for their evil, He destroyed the evil among them and NOT the good ones, but does that mean the good ones were all dead before ? No ... but what Allah tells us here that, by the word "destroy" ... it means that the righteous even if they suffered a physical destruction, they are bound to attain spiritual bliss and are not "destroyed" like the evil doing folks, who are destroyed not only in this world but also in the Hereafter....
I think that something like family responsibility must enter the picture somewhere. If parents act unwisely or wickedly then this would naturally bring harmful consequences upon their young children.
In Luke 17:27 Jesus says that men and women were marrying right up until the time of Noah's flood which destroyed them. Surely then there must have been children and unborn babies that were also destroyed in the flood, due to their parents' failure to heed Noah's warning.
Hey there! Looks like you're enjoying the discussion, but you're not signed up for an account.
When you create an account, we remember exactly what you've read, so you always come right back where you left off. You also get notifications, here and via email, whenever new posts are made. And you can like posts and share your thoughts. Sign Up
Quote
Hide
Looks like you're enjoying the discussion, but you're not signed up for an account.
Bookmarks