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""I am God. You too are God. The only difference between you and me is that while I am aware of it, you are completely unaware."

Despite Sai Baba having previously assured his followers that he would not die anytime soon, Hindu guru Sathya Sai Baba was hospitalised a month ago and needed breathing support and dialysis. Two days ago doctors announced he was suffering from multiple organ failure and had stopped responding to treatment. After the 86-year-old's death was announced yesterday morning. Narendra Nayak, President of Federation of Indian Rationalist Associations, speaking before the guru's death said: "Sai Baba is a third rate prestidigitator and manipulator who is now paralysed and he cannot cure himself. How can he cure others? There is a saying in English – physician heal thyself. So I would say Baba heal yourself."

The guru had a vast following and his movement established ashrams in more than 126 countries. His supporters included high-ranking politicians, movie stars, industrialists and athletes. His death has set off speculation as to who will inherit the leadership of his network. The late Sri Sathya Sai Baba was a Living God to millions of his followers

Sai Baba had also been denounced by the Indian Rationalists Association, who debunked his "miracles" and pointed to numerous videos available on the internet which show the one-time conjurer producing items from various places where he has concealed them, including his mop of hair.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yblhsr1O4IQ


Even this magician is better than Sai Baba
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtNAq5m2LSg


He was never slow to proclaim his own divinity, insisting that his arrival on earth was prophesied by Jesus, that he was the one who originally sent Jesus to Earth and that he was clearly the Lamb of God because his name – Ba Ba – is the noise a sheep makes. lol

But for his growing army of critics, he was nothing short of a child-molesting fraud who had for years taken advantage of the gullibility of his young male followers to sexually abuse them during private audiences in his rooms. For many years the US government warned its citizens to stay away from the ashram because of the risk and UNESCO, the UN's Educational, Social, and Cultural Organisation, pulled out of a conference at the ashram citing deep concerns about "widely-reported allegations of sexual abuse".

In 1974 Sai Baba announced that he would live to the ripe age of 96. his failure to reach the age at which he had claimed he would die should be enough to convince people Sai Baba was no God

Well Baa baaa black sheep, good journey to the other world before your next "rebirth"" , send my regards to the abysss


When Truth is heard against Falsehood, Falsehood perishes. For Falsehood by its nature is bound to perish." Al-Qur'an 17:81
 
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Thanks for the laugh. Good one on a rainy day like today.
One time a friend was dressed up as sai baba for a costume party, he wore orange wig, though. hillarious.
I'd had no idea who sai baba was.

Earthlings, I come in peace:

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he cannot cure himself. How can he cure others?


yep that's sure been said before, sure its easy to mock somebodies understanding of life and god.. these things are hard to put into words in a way that is acceptable to others (or not open to misunderstanding)

anyway may allah swt have mercy on him.
 
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I think that its is so weird that he was placed in a transparent coffin. who on earth wants to see a dead body.

Despite Sai Baba having previously assured his followers that he would not die anytime soon,
if you can be born, then there is no reason why you wont die.


generally speaking i wonder if people who worship the dead knew what the decreased person goes through of decomposition, what kind of divinity they would claim to them.
 
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yep that's sure been said before, sure its easy to mock somebodies understanding of life and god.. these things are hard to put into words in a way that is acceptable to others (or not open to misunderstanding)

I'm sure it is more than appropriate to mock a person who claim he's God. not only that, sai baba purposefully deceived so many people so many years.

anyway may allah swt have mercy on him.

I'm not sure it is appropriate to make a du'a to ask Allah to forgive a person who claimed he was God. That would be like us making du'a to Allah asking for forgiveness for fir'aun.
The only thing that would save Sai Baba now would be if he was indeed insane during all the years he claimed he was God.
 
I heard about this a few days ago. If people believed him to be god then that is their freedom of belief. Maybe if he had genuinely believed himself to be god it would have been easier to understand, but the videos show he knew he was tricking people. That makes it so much worse imo.
 
I heard about this a few days ago. If people believed him to be god then that is their freedom of belief. Maybe if he had genuinely believed himself to be god it would have been easier to understand, but the videos show he knew he was tricking people. That makes it so much worse imo.

Anyone claiming to be God should pass all 4 tests of Surah Ikhlas

1. He is the One and Only

Result : FAIL

There was already another Sai baba before him

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shirdi_Sai_Baba


2.He is absolute eternal

FAIL. DIED last week ( (23 November 1926 – 24 April 2011)

3. He does not beget and he is never begotten

FAIL : He had a father and mother.


4. There is nothing comparable to him in the whole universe

FAIL : Tons and tons of deceivers have existed for centuries
 
i did not know of him, the response i made was from OP.

"I am God. You too are God. The only difference between you and me is that while I am aware of it, you are completely unaware."

everybody serves god, if you want to or not.. the difference that i can see is that a person has elevated himself into a position to reach people.. what he taught and who he influenced and to what end i do not know.

the quoted line is much better understood as all of us being slaves of allah.. this is why islam is the truth without doubt. if you have anybody who could make these links to people they may better understand islam or the truth.

we have only ourselves to blame for our mockery..this is not the best way to influence anybody towards the truth.

anyway, may allah swt have mercy on me.. my wordplay is often inflammatory
 
everybody serves god, if you want to or not.. the difference that i can see is that a person has elevated himself into a position to reach people.. what he taught and who he influenced and to what end i do not know. the quoted line is much better understood as all of us being slaves of allah.. this is why islam is the truth without doubt. if you have anybody who could make these links to people they may better understand islam or the truth.

Are we reading the same article and same sentences?
Or has my command of english gone that badly?

Let us read again.

"I am God. You too are God. The only difference between you and me is that while I am aware of it, you are completely unaware."

I don't get how you go from "I am God. You too are God" to "He is a slave of Allah"

From this I can only draw conclusion that your definition of God = Slave of Allah

You are free to re-define reality and words, but please spare me from your definition of god.
 
never heard of this before...
how people are so blind to follow such man.. aren't they aware of his tricks at all..
i think these types of people who follow such man are the one called BLIND DEAF AND DUMP in QURAN
 
From what i have read of this indivdual and his PR team. It was a great big money making con! Sai baba was revered by influential politicans and high profile celebs within india.

If you read about sects and there leaders and followers you will see many of the deviant characteristics. Sai Baba was also investigated for 'disgusting' acts toward children and his so called 'followers' revered him as a 'God'.


May Allah (swt) ensure that we achieve the straight path. Insh'Allah.
 


Are we reading the same article and same sentences?
Or has my command of english gone that badly?

Let us read again.



I don't get how you go from "I am God. You too are God" to "He is a slave of Allah"

From this I can only draw conclusion that your definition of God = Slave of Allah

You are free to re-define reality and words, but please spare me from your definition of god.

well that is your logic for all to see.
my definition of god is as in the quran.. it seems beyond me to explain him
 
well that is your logic for all to see.
my definition of god is as in the quran.. it seems beyond me to explain him

As shown Sai baba doesnt fit the definition of chapter 112 in the Quran hence cant be God .

Cant understand what you meant by "God" ?

If you mean its a metaphor for a Godly person like Prophet or Saints . Then What sort of saint will go about deceiving people to gain attention . Its just ridiculous
 
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I don't know who is dumber. The one who claims to be God or the one who believes and follows the one who claims to be God.

It's highly disgusting (for me) to even imagine that a man who has been bestowed the power of thought and reason can worship anything or anyone besides Allah. +o(
 
As shown Sai baba doesnt fit the definition of chapter 112 in the Quran hence cant be God .

Cant understand what you meant by "God" ?

If you mean its a metaphor for a Godly person like Prophet or Saints . Then What sort of saint will go about deceiving people to gain attention . Its just ridiculous

i didnt mean any comparison except for that i could understand how god works through all things and yet is free of all wants and needs, no vessel is needed for gods will to be done... all things are subservient.
for him to have claimed himself as god would be very bad, pharaoh like even.. but the article says something subtly different which would at first sight indicates poor wording and explanation.. not shirk.

anyway the only way for anybody to be certain of a persons character is to spend a lot of time in there company, with unclouded eyes.
the value of fighting or lively debate.
 
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well that is your logic for all to see. my definition of god is as in the quran.. it seems beyond me to explain him

If you want to know the clear definition of God, read QS. Al Ikhlas (QS. 112) and QS. Al Baqarah:255
Please read your qur'an.

Tell me which part of the Qur'an that says God is a human who sexually abuse little boys (it is reported that Sai Baba sexually abuse little boys), a human who use tricks (not even magic) to deceive others as to make him appear as if he is divine, a human who wrongly predicted his own death, a human who died?
 
but the article says something subtly different which would at first sight indicates poor wording and explanation.. not shirk.

Did you not even watch the video posted by zak?
I can give you loads of links about sai baba, including wikipedia, but I don't think you will read them as you seem to be wrapped in your own opinion about things, disregarding evidence, including what the Qur'an says.

in the youtube clips, sai baba is using crude tricks to "conjure up" golds, ash, necklace, and other little things to trick people into thinking he has divine power, and thus make the poor people (not just figurative poor, but real poor) to hand in their money to him for "donation".
If that is god, you are free to worship and follow him, but please change the religion status in your profile so you don't deceive others.
 

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