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    Why I love jesus (Muslim version)

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    Re: Why I love jesus (Muslim version)

    Nice video but I couldn't watch it all as that young brother was talking in a gangsta style

    And when he said 'Jesus' (pbuh) he didn't add any pbuh or alayhisalaam and he said it a bit aggressively (Prophets' name should be said with respect and nicely) and I had to swiitch off at that point.

    This is not a blame on you brother but just a message to our youngsters who've either converted or started to practice. It is not right to talk about Islam in the gangsta style... That style should be left in the streets and let's all try and talk nicely, beautifully, calmly and articulately

    Jazakamullah
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    Re: Why I love jesus (Muslim version)

    format_quote Originally Posted by Ahmed. View Post
    Nice video but I couldn't watch it all as that young brother was talking in a gangsta style

    And when he said 'Jesus' (peace be upon him) he didn't add any pbuh or alayhisalaam and he said it a bit aggressively (Prophets' name should be said with respect and nicely) and I had to swiitch off at that point.

    This is not a blame on you brother but just a message to our youngsters who've either converted or started to practice. It is not right to talk about Islam in the gangsta style... That style should be left in the streets and let's all try and talk nicely, beautifully, calmly and articulately

    Jazakamullah
    Assalam o Alaikum rahamutullahi barakuthu.

    it is more respectful to use peace be upon him instead of pbuh. Pbuh is sign of laziness and lack of respect.

    JazakAllah khair
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    Re: Why I love jesus (Muslim version)

    format_quote Originally Posted by Ahmed. View Post
    Nice video but I couldn't watch it all as that young brother was talking in a gangsta style
    What? that made me laugh.

    In all honesty, the brother is very sincere and an artist who has done more for the Dawah than you probably will in a lifetime. No offence.
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    Re: Why I love jesus (Muslim version)

    What people don’t realize is that his audience is not the Muslims. He is giving Dawah through the talent Allah has given him to attract people who spend most of their time listening to hip hop music. They don’t have time to engage in a dialogue with typical Muslim or to listen to an Islamic scholar. His music at least ignites the first spark and make people look into Islam. Instead of criticizing, we should appreciate the time and effort he is putting in to give Dawah through his music, for example look his another video below in which he answered some common objections on Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) and Islam in such a beautiful way. More than 2.8 million people have viewed that video and I am sure it only helped to give a positive image of Islam.

    And Allah knows the best!
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    Re: Why I love jesus (Muslim version)

    I know what Ahmed means. It might be cool and stuff...but his style just didn't appeal to me either. This is not critic to the person himself brother who made the video. It is more a personal preference. So, I'm with Ahmed on this.
    @HabibUrrehman
    This might end up in an off topic discussion, but I have to ask:
    I thought music is haraam in our religion?

    So first, can we consider this video as music or is it more like a poem? (I think more like a poem)

    Second, is doing dawah with the use of haraam things (in this case music) good dawah? because I do not think so.
    A bit of an extreme example but ISIS thinks suicide is OK if you drag a lot of infidels with you into death....but is it?

    I think doing no dawah is better than doing dawah the haraam way.

    Again, I do not think that this brother is doing something wrong, because I consider his video more like a poem instead of a rap, but it was just a thought that came up in my head.
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    Re: Why I love jesus (Muslim version)

    format_quote Originally Posted by Ümit View Post
    I think doing no dawah is better than doing dawah the haraam way..
    what did he do that was haraam? He’s a spoken word poet and the video has a Nasheed with acapella only!

    poetry, in all its forms (without the use of music) is NOT haraam, especially if used to preach the message of Islam.

    you should tread carefully with your opinion, brother.
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    Re: Why I love jesus (Muslim version)

    format_quote Originally Posted by Scimitar View Post
    what did he do that was haraam? He’s a spoken word poet and the video has a Nasheed with acapella only!

    poetry, in all its forms (without the use of music) is NOT haraam, especially if used to preach the message of Islam.

    you should tread carefully with your opinion, brother.
    no, YOU should tread carefully with your opinion...brother.

    Read my post again, and you will understand...especially my last sentence.
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    Re: Why I love jesus (Muslim version)

    format_quote Originally Posted by Ümit View Post
    no, YOU should tread carefully with your opinion...brother.

    Read my post again, and you will understand...especially my last sentence.
    I'm not going to get into a circular conversation with you. You've basically claimed something is haraam when it is not. I called you out. You became offended by some friendly advice. You need to realise this, and internalise it.

    Assalaamu alaikuim.
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    Re: Why I love jesus (Muslim version)

    format_quote Originally Posted by Scimitar View Post
    I'm not going to get into a circular conversation with you. You've basically claimed something is haraam when it is not. I called you out. You became offended by some friendly advice. You need to realise this, and internalise it.

    Assalaamu alaikuim.
    OK, you obviously are not capable of reading posts correctly. I did NOT claim something is Haraam...let that be clear. My last sentence confirms this. I clearly said:
    Again, I do not think that this brother is doing something wrong, because I consider his video more like a poem instead of a rap, but it was just a thought that came up in my head.
    And thanks for your negative reputation again...It is funny that you are the only one giving me bad reputations...must have a reason somehow...I however, will not return you the favour.
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    Re: Why I love jesus (Muslim version)

    Assalam o Alaikum Rahamutullahi Barakuthu Umit and Scimitar.


    Please don't get into arguement, we are brothers together, we should love each other for sake of Allah, this is bad to create hatred and illict feeling.
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    Re: Why I love jesus (Muslim version)

    format_quote Originally Posted by taha_ View Post
    Assalam o Alaikum Rahamutullahi Barakuthu Umit and Scimitar.


    Please don't get into arguement, we are brothers together, we should love each other for sake of Allah, this is bad to create hatred and illict feeling.
    Yes, I understand you, and believeme...I am trying really bad to not hate This dude, but I am being accused for doing something which I obviously haven't. I cannot accept that. He just read my post wrong...thats all...And this is not the first time he does that. And on top of that I get a negative reputation...So who is actually hating who?

    But OK...I will take your advise and ignore it.
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    Re: Why I love jesus (Muslim version)

    format_quote Originally Posted by Ümit View Post
    @HabibUrrehman
    This might end up in an off topic discussion, but I have to ask:
    I thought music is haraam in our religion?


    That's my understanding as well.


    format_quote Originally Posted by Ümit View Post
    So first, can we consider this video as music or is it more like a poem? (I think more like a poem)

    Its more like a spoken word without any music. I don't consider this as music and I think you are on the same page?


    format_quote Originally Posted by Ümit View Post
    Second, is doing dawah with the use of haraam things (in this case music) good dawah? because I do not think so.
    A bit of an extreme example but ISIS thinks suicide is OK if you drag a lot of infidels with you into death....but is it?

    I think doing no dawah is better than doing dawah the haraam way.


    If your main objection is on the music then you are right but as I said I don't consider this as music. Spoken word is considered as poetry and we have seen use of poetry through out Islamic history to convey the message of Islam.


    format_quote Originally Posted by Ümit View Post
    Again, I do not think that this brother is doing something wrong, because I consider his video more like a poem instead of a rap, but it was just a thought that came up in my head.
    You are right that its not music. Its good to ask to clear any confusion. You can look up "spoken word" and hope you will find a better explanation of what exactly it is and why it is considered as poetry and not music.
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    Re: Why I love jesus (Muslim version)

    no I do not have to look it up dear brother. I know it is not music so we are on the same page about that.

    I do not object on his way of doing dawah.

    the reason I asked is that you specifically spoke about "his music" in post number 5...
    so it was more like a question to you like "IF we consider his video as music...wouldn't that nullify his dawah?"
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    Re: Why I love jesus (Muslim version)

    format_quote Originally Posted by Ümit View Post
    no I do not have to look it up dear brother. I know it is not music so we are on the same page about that.

    I do not object on his way of doing dawah.

    the reason I asked is that you specifically spoke about "his music" in post number 5...
    so it was more like a question to you like "IF we consider his video as music...wouldn't that nullify his dawah?"
    My bad for using the wrong word and causing confusion. I apologize for that.
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    Re: Why I love jesus (Muslim version)

    As a Christian I thought this would be interesting but got distracted by your arguments about music being haraam ! Can someone tell me why something as beautiful as music be haraam ?
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Spiritlead View Post
    As a Christian I thought this would be interesting but got distracted by your arguments about music being haraam ! Can someone tell me why something as beautiful as music be haraam ?
    Peace and Blessings.
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    In a nutshell because Allah and his messenger forbade it.

    You might say well as an outsider looking in that doesn't sound like a compelling reason but to understand that response we need to take a step backwards and understand a little bit about Islam.

    The message of Islam is the same as all the prophets, Worship Allah alone without partners. This is what Abraham taught, this is what Jesus taught, this is what Moses and Prophet Muhammad taught may peace be upon them all.

    Each Prophet was given miracles to back the veracity of their claim. Moses performed many miracles by Allah's permission. Jesus performed many miracles by Allah's permission but because the message of the last and final Prophet Muhammad sallaho alayhi wa Salam would outlive him his miracle would too. The miracle he was given was the Quran

    The Quran is such that if you were to gather everyone on earth and ask them to produce even a single chapter like it they would not be able to do so. The qurans language and eloquence, knowledge of history, scientific knowledge unknown in the 6th century, future prophecies that came true all of this points to the fact it came from the one who created us.

    Not only is it miraculous but it has been preserved letter for letter as it was revealed 1400 years ago even the orientalists don't deny this. It's not like the bible where they chop and change versions with retranslation and addition/ deletion of verses.

    So coming from this perspective if something is forbidden we believe with confidence that it was prohibited by the one who created the heavens and the earth.

    That isn't to say we can't see wisdoms in what is prohibited. Abstaining from alcohol is a good example. The misery that drug has caused to humanity is clearly evident.

    Music I can tell you that it distracts you from the remembrance of Allah, I could say it makes one heedless of the purpose of our Creation. How it manipulates the emotions and leads to adultery and I could keep going...

    I could tell you all these things but end of the day we are Muslims. We believe Allah forbade it as it has been authentically transmitted from the Prophet sallaho alayhi wa Salam so we say We hear and we obey.
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    Re: Why I love jesus (Muslim version)

    Besides this video isn't music anyway it's more akin to a poetry recitation
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    Re: Why I love jesus (Muslim version)

    format_quote Originally Posted by Spiritlead View Post
    As a Christian I thought this would be interesting but got distracted by your arguments about music being haraam ! Can someone tell me why something as beautiful as music be haraam ?
    Peace and Blessings.
    I would like to add my perspective here, as someone who lived both an "open life"and a practising life. And when trying to understand Islam, I find simply reasoning that something is forbidden, as the sole explanation isn't sufficient when you are searching for depth in the heart of a religion. To me personally Islam is the most logical religion and almost everything forbidden comes from a place of logic or to not harm our minds or bodies. Now as someone who loved and appreciated music ( all genres ), let's speak about the generalised effect of the instrumentals .... there is that feeling of wanting to "dance" ," be wild" , "let loose" "let your hair down", let your body language "completely take over" right ? It stirrs emotions in your soul and deep within your head, which allows you to wonder and almost your alter ego comes out, it has the power to instantly change your state/mood and influence you to feel whatever ( more sexualised, act out of character ? ) trying my best to explain it. Now you may argue, that what about classical music which is softer, slower, and more relaxed, what's wrong with that .... well different strokes of the instruments again, speed of the instruments, still have that power to make you feel a type of way ? To summarise, these type of strong feelings are highly likely to distant you and further you away from God, and extremely likely to make you feel unIslamic things, definately increasing your chances in sinning and as a whole, just take you away from really focusing your mind on worship of God and the messafe of God. And I can hands on say this to be true. When I completely gave up listening to music, I became more inclined to listen to recitations of the Quran which were the most beautiful thing I ever heard, and gave me a REAL feeling of peace. I was more focused on learning about Islam and becoming a better person as a whole, more productive and doing things of meaning. I hope that helps in give a little insight.

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