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    What do they think of the Quran. (OP)


    What do my athiest friends and christians friends think about the Quran. Do they believe that its god words or not?

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    Re: To Non Muslims: Who wrote the Koran?

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    format_quote Originally Posted by Joe98 View Post
    So, God spoke to the prophet (pbuh) and the prophet (pbuh) spoke to some people and the people went away and wrote it down.

    And they never made a mistake

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    There were many safeguards built in so that any errors, in writing it down, would be immediatly detected. It was written during the lifetime of the person it was revealed to. It was memorized by the followers oraly before it was written on paper. Any errors in transcribing would have been seen. Only text that was witnessed as having been the origianal words were accepted as being the true transcript, This was clarified by those that were there at the time it was written. Any writtings that were not witnessed, by those that knew the actual words were destroyed. The final text was in full accordance with all witnesses and was as they had written and memorized.
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    Re: To Non Muslims: Who wrote the Koran?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Woodrow View Post
    There were many safeguards built in so that any errors, in writing it down, would be immediatly detected. It was written during the lifetime of the person it was revealed to. It was memorized by the followers oraly before it was written on paper. Any errors in transcribing would have been seen. Only text that was witnessed as having been the origianal words were accepted as being the true transcript, This was clarified by those that were there at the time it was written. Any writtings that were not witnessed, by those that knew the actual words were destroyed. The final text was in full accordance with all witnesses and was as they had written and memorized.
    Good answer.

    Actually the revelation of quran is under a subject of its own called 'Ulum al
    Quran' (Sciences of Koran). U can have a degree just studying this subject only. A good book I've read about it is 'Sciences of Quran by Thameem Ushama'.
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    Re: To Non Muslims: Who wrote the Koran?

    format_quote Originally Posted by north_malaysian View Post
    their writings are double or triple or more checked by others. It must be something unanimous. Furthermore it's checked by Prophet. Prophet also memorize the whole Koran and checked by Angel Gabriel. God proclaimed he satisfied too. That's what we believe.
    Sounds reasonable
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    Re: To Non Muslims: Who wrote the Koran?

    format_quote Originally Posted by north_malaysian
    I want what your mind says.
    My mind says it was written by a human.

    I can't guess his motives.

    One motive is to make rules for people to live in peace.

    Who can guess?

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    Re: To Non Muslims: Who wrote the Koran?

    Joe98, i disagree with you. No Human can possibly write such a book. In the Quran it is stated that if it was any other auther but god thier would of been many mistakes.
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    Re: To Non Muslims: Who wrote the Koran?

    My mind says it was written by a human.

    I can't guess his motives.

    One motive is to make rules for people to live in peace.

    Who can guess?
    if your mind said that... can your mind guess and think which intelligent man write it? if ur mind said that... the man must be very famous...
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    Re: To Non Muslims: Who wrote the Koran?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Hussein radi View Post
    Joe98, i disagree with you. No Human can possibly write such a book. In the Quran it is stated that if it was any other auther but god thier would of been many mistakes.

    Okay I'm going to try to look at this from Joe98's point of view. I guess that since he isn't a Muslim and doesn't believe that Prophet Mohammed was instructed by God, it would seem quite real to him that the Quran could have been written by mankind. This is plausible for him to hold these views. Such a book could have been written to serve a political purpose or control the masses (which I believe he stated earlier).

    The Quran is precious to you because you are a Muslim. If you weren't raised a Muslim or hadn't embraced Islam, the Quran wouldn't seem like such a miracle. Does the Bhagavad Gita hold a special place in your heart?
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    Re: To Non Muslims: Who wrote the Koran?

    Okay I'm going to try to look at this from Joe98's point of view. I guess that since he isn't a Muslim and doesn't believe that Prophet Mohammed was instructed by God, it would seem quite real to him that the Quran could have been written by mankind. This is plausible for him to hold these views. Such a book could have been written to serve a political purpose or control the masses (which I believe he stated earlier).
    from joe point of view...

    who do u think is that man??
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    Re: To Non Muslims: Who wrote the Koran?

    format_quote Originally Posted by searchingsoul View Post
    I never thought about it. I'll say it maybe the word of God (like Snakeleggs said without believing or disbelieving). At this point in my life I feel that if it is the Word of God I don't have to believe in it because I am a Christian. I like to view the religions as being equal in worth and both paths to heaven.
    sister if you agreed with christianity & believe that its a path to heaven then you should disagree with islam

    because in christianity those who will enter the heavens are those who believed in jesus as GOD whom sacrificed for the world to erase their sins

    and if you agrred with islam & believe that its the word of GOD then you should also believe that GODS words should not have contradicting contents, so how come GOD says in the bible that jesus is GOD & says in the quran that those who believe that jesus is GOD will not enter theheaven

    If i ask somone about his shirt color would the answer be : its black but its white in the same time?

    no

    if i asked someone about his age would he say : i'm 42 but i'm 20 in the same time

    no


    what i want to say is : the truth is one and cant be more than one
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    the Unbelievers say: "These are nothing but tales of the ancients." (25) Others they keep away from it and themselves they keep away; but they only destroy their own souls and they perceive it not. (26)(Translation of surat Al'anam)
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    Re: To Non Muslims: Who wrote the Koran?

    format_quote Originally Posted by bin saladin View Post
    sister if you agreed with christianity & believe that its a path to heaven then you should disagree with islam

    because in christianity those who will enter the heavens are those who believed in jesus as GOD whom sacrificed for the world to erase their sins

    and if you agrred with islam & believe that its the word of GOD then you should also believe that GODS words should not have contradicting contents, so how come GOD says in the bible that jesus is GOD & says in the quran that those who believe that jesus is GOD will not enter theheaven

    If i ask somone about his shirt color would the answer be : its black but its white in the same time?

    no

    if i asked someone about his age would he say : i'm 42 but i'm 20 in the same time

    no


    what i want to say is : the truth is one and cant be more than one
    You are correct. I do not believe that I fully accept Christianity or Islam at this point in my life. This is why I am researching both.
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    Re: To Non Muslims: Who wrote the Koran?

    format_quote Originally Posted by syilla View Post
    from joe point of view...

    who do u think is that man??
    With all respect Sylla, this is a common error in a religious debate. For a statement to be made and then try to back the opposing view into disproving that view. It is impossible to disprove a view. When we make a statement it becomes our responsibility to prove the view, not for the disagreeing person to disprove it.

    A statement was made that the Qur'an was written by God(swt) it is up to us to offer evidence that is true, not to expect the antagonist to come up with the name of an author. An answer stating the Author chose to be anonymous, would be valid, and we would not be able to offer acceptable proof that is a wrong answer. We have considerable evidence to believe it was written by God.

    No human has ever been able to duplicate a similar work. (this does not make much sense to a non-Arabic speaking person unless it is explained to them that in Arabic, the Qur'an is written as a beautifull poetic form and that in Arabic it is vitually impossible to write the thoughts of the Qur'an in that form and have it make any sense.)

    There were many eyewitnesses to it's writting It can be historically shown that Mohammad did not have the literary skills to write a book. there had to have been a Higher Power guiding him

    There can be shown references in earlier scripture that Mohammad would be born.
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    Re: To Non Muslims: Who wrote the Koran?

    format_quote Originally Posted by bin_saladin
    sister if you agreed with christianity & blah blah blah

    Please stay on topic. Who wrote the Koran?

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    Re: To Non Muslims: Who wrote the Koran?

    format_quote Originally Posted by searchingsoul View Post
    You are correct. I do not believe that I fully accept Christianity or Islam at this point in my life. This is why I am researching both.
    many of the truth searching ppl crossed this point one day

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    sorry...

    i'm just challenging them...
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    Re: To Non Muslims: Who wrote the Koran?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Joe98 View Post
    My mind says it was written by a human.

    I can't guess his motives.

    One motive is to make rules for people to live in peace.

    Who can guess?

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    I do respect your view that a man wrote it.

    So who would he be? Any guesses? Or you can give a name of the person who had written it.
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    Re: To Non Muslims: Who wrote the Koran?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Joe98 View Post
    Please stay on topic. Who wrote the Koran?

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    Re: To Non Muslims: Who wrote the Koran?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Joe98 View Post
    Please stay on topic. Who wrote the Koran?

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    Staying on Topic.

    Allah (God) (swt) Wrote the Qur'an. There has been more then suficient proof to convince many of us that is true. To those that do not see the proof, no amount of proof will be sufficient to show them.
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    Re: To Non Muslims: Who wrote the Koran?

    format_quote Originally Posted by north_malaysian View Post
    I do respect your view that a man wrote it.

    So who would he be? Any guesses? Or you can give a name of the person who had written it.

    Ernest Hemingway?
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    Re: To Non Muslims: Who wrote the Koran?

    sorry... i'm not that good in arab...

    can't really understand it...

    would u mind translate it for me...
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