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    In the Old Testament of the Bible, stoning is specifically prescribed as the method of execution for crimes such as murder, blasphemy and apostasy, and some cases of adultery. However, the Talmud seriously limits the use of the death penalty to those criminals who were warned not to commit the crime in the presence of two witnesses, and persisted in committing the crime also in front of two witnesses. It was said about the death penalty that if a court killed one person in seventy years, it was a barbarous court and should be condemned as such.

    Extracts from Deuteronomy 13:6 to 13:10:

    If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; (13:6)

    But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. (13:9)

    And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage. (13:10)

    Furthermore, the Talmud describes the stoning punishment (called Skila סקילה in Hebrew) in different terms than the stereotypical notion of hurling rocks at an immobile defendant/victim. Rather, the defendant is brought to the top of a large scaffold, and thrown off. After that (if the defendant was not already dead) very large rocks were dropped on top of the defendant. The punishment, the harshest one in Talmudic law, was intended to be as quick and painless as possible given the nature of the punishment. (That is, there are quicker and more painless punishments, but the Talmud specifically condemns long, drawn out, and torturous punishments).

    Mishna, Sanhedrin 6.4 on modalities of stoning:
    The place of stoning was the height of two men. One of the witnesses knocked (the convict) down on his back [lit.: "loins"]. If he turned over on his chest [lit: "heart"], the witness turned him on his back. If he died right away, that was enough; but if not, the second (witness) took a stone and dropped it on his chest. If he died right away, that was enough; but if not he was stoned by all Israelites (present)...

    Mishna, Sanhedrin 7.4 on offenders sentenced to stoning:
    [1] one who has intercourse with his mother or his father's wife, his daughter-in-law, a male or a beast. [2] a woman who copulates with a beast. [3] the blasphemer and the idol-worshipper. [4] one who curses his father or his mother. [5] one who has intercourse with a girl who is betrothed. [6] the instigator (to apostasy) [mesith] and the imposter [maddich; cf. Deut 13]. [7] the sorcerer, and [8] the disobedient or rebellious son.
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    Re: Stoning In Judaism as well

    99% of Jews do not stone anymore... stoning was very common during the time the Old Testament was written.

    Basically, if it was written in our times, it might have said something that was more common for our day and age. :-)

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    Re: Stoning In Judaism as well

    its like saying te Americans nukes Japan, but they stopped doing it

    but in fact they are still guilty of it.
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    Re: Stoning In Judaism as well

    All religions are guilty of something. Judiasm is not a "perfect" religion.

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    Re: Stoning In Judaism as well

    hey btw , i am originally rooted to Yafa
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    Re: Stoning In Judaism as well

    Quote Originally Posted by al-fateh View Post
    hey btw , i am originally rooted to Yafa
    Better beaches in Miami?

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    Re: Stoning In Judaism as well

    never been to haifa i cannot compare them.
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    Re: Stoning In Judaism as well

    Miami for sure. I have visited Miami and there are very nice beaches there.

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    Re: Stoning In Judaism as well

    I went to a webstite named after Moses Aleyhis Salam, G-d forgive those who named it after him, anyhow they told me something like, if the court temple thing were up again then stoning could come back into place.
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    Re: Stoning In Judaism as well

    Al-Fateh “its like saying [that] Americans nukes Japan, but they stopped doing it

    but in fact they are still guilty of it
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    How is that, different from saying Islam is guilty of anything any Muslim has ever done during any time of war?

    America is not perfict, nor is American Christianty nor Jewish.

    Just the same as Saudi Arabia isn't Islam.

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    Re: Stoning In Judaism as well

    Quote Originally Posted by nimrod View Post
    Al-Fateh “its like saying [that] Americans nukes Japan, but they stopped doing it

    but in fact they are still guilty of it
    ”.

    How is that, different from saying Islam is guilty of anything any Muslim has ever done during any time of war?

    America is not perfict, nor is American Christianty nor Jewish.

    Just the same as Saudi Arabia isn't Islam.

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