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    101 Clear Contradictions in the Bible

    Author: Shabir Ally
    1. Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel?
    • God did (2 Samuel 24: 1)
    • Satan did (I Chronicles 2 1:1)

    2. In that count how many fighting men were found in Israel?
    • Eight hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
    • One million, one hundred thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)
    3. How many fighting men were found in Judah?
    • Five hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
    • Four hundred and seventy thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)
    4. God sent his prophet to threaten David with how many years of famine?
    • Seven (2 Samuel 24:13)
    • Three (I Chronicles 21:12)
    5. How old was Ahaziah when he began to rule over Jerusalem?
    • Twenty-two (2 Kings 8:26)
    • Forty-two (2 Chronicles 22:2)
    6. How old was Jehoiachin when he became king of Jerusalem?
    • Eighteen (2 Kings 24:8)
    • Eight (2 Chronicles 36:9)
    7. How long did he rule over Jerusalem?
    • Three months (2 Kings 24:8)
    • Three months and ten days (2 Chronicles 36:9)
    8. The chief of the mighty men of David lifted up his spear and killed how many men at one time?
    • Eight hundred (2 Samuel 23:8)
    • Three hundred (I Chronicles 11: 11)
    9. When did David bring the Ark of the Covenant to Jerusalem? Before defeating the Philistines or after?
    • After (2 Samuel 5 and 6)
    • Before (I Chronicles 13 and 14)
    10. How many pairs of clean animals did God tell Noah to take into the Ark?
    • Two (Genesis 6:19, 20)
    • Seven (Genesis 7:2). But despite this last instruction only two pairs went into the ark (Genesis 7:8-9)
    11. When David defeated the King of Zobah, how many horsemen did he capture?
    • One thousand and seven hundred (2 Samuel 8:4)
    • Seven thousand (I Chronicles 18:4)
    12. How many stalls for horses did Solomon have?
    • Forty thousand (I Kings 4:26)
    • Four thousand (2 chronicles 9:25)
    13. In what year of King Asa's reign did Baasha, King of Israel die?
    • Twenty-sixth year (I Kings 15:33 - 16:8)
    • Still alive in the thirty-sixth year (2 Chronicles 16:1)
    14. How many overseers did Solomon appoint for the work of building the temple?
    • Three thousand six hundred (2 Chronicles 2:2)
    • Three thousand three hundred (I Kings 5:16)
    15. Solomon built a facility containing how many baths?
    • Two thousand (1 Kings 7:26)
    • Over three thousand (2 Chronicles 4:5)
    16. Of the Israelites who were freed from the Babylonian captivity, how many were the children of Pahrath-Moab?
    • Two thousand eight hundred and twelve (Ezra 2:6)
    • Two thousand eight hundred and eighteen (Nehemiah 7:11)
    17. How many were the children of Zattu?
    • Nine hundred and forty-five (Ezra 2:8)
    • Eight hundred and forty-five (Nehemiah 7:13)
    18. How many were the children of Azgad?
    • One thousand two hundred and twenty-two (Ezra 2:12)
    • Two thousand three hundred and twenty-two (Nehemiah 7:17)
    19. How many were the children of Adin?
    • Four hundred and fifty-four (Ezra 2:15)
    • Six hundred and fifty-five (Nehemiah 7:20)
    20. How many were the children of Hashum?
    • Two hundred and twenty-three (Ezra 2:19)
    • Three hundred and twenty-eight (Nehemiah 7:22)
    21. How many were the children of Bethel and Ai?
    • Two hundred and twenty-three (Ezra 2:28)
    • One hundred and twenty-three (Nehemiah 7:32)
    22. Ezra 2:64 and Nehemiah 7:66 agree that the total number of the whole assembly was 42,360. Yet the numbers do not add up to anything close. The totals obtained from each book is as follows:
    • 29,818 (Ezra)
    • 31,089 (Nehemiah)
    23. How many singers accompanied the assembly?
    • Two hundred (Ezra 2:65)
    • Two hundred and forty-five (Nehemiah 7:67)
    24. What was the name of King Abijah’s mother?
    • Michaiah, daughter of Uriel of Gibeah (2 Chronicles 13:2)
    • Maachah, daughter of Absalom (2 Chronicles 11:20) But Absalom had only one daughter whose name was Tamar (2 Samuel 14:27)
    25. Did Joshua and the Israelites capture Jerusalem?
    • Yes (Joshua 10:23, 40)
    • No (Joshua 15:63)
    26. Who was the father of Joseph, husband of Mary?
    • Jacob (Matthew 1:16)
    • Hell (Luke 3:23)
    27. Jesus descended from which son of David?
    • Solomon (Matthew 1:6)
    • Nathan(Luke3:31)
    28. Who was the father of Shealtiel?
    • Jechoniah (Matthew 1:12)
    • Neri’ (Luke 3:27)
    29. Which son of Zerubbabel was an ancestor of Jesus Christ?
    • Abiud (Matthew 1: 13)
    • Rhesa (Luke 3:27) But the seven sons of Zerubbabel are as follows: i.Meshullam, ii. Hananiah, iii. Hashubah, iv. Ohel, v.Berechiah, vi. Hasadiah, viii. Jushabhesed (I Chronicles 3:19, 20). The names Abiud and Rhesa do not fit in anyway.
    30. Who was the father of Uzziah?
    • Joram (Matthew 1:8)
    • Amaziah (2 Chronicles 26:1)
    31. Who was the father of Jechoniah?
    • Josiah (Matthew 1:11)
    • Jeholakim (I Chronicles 3:16)
    32. How many generations were there from the Babylonian exile until Christ?
    • Matthew says fourteen (Matthew 1:17)
    • But a careful count of the generations reveals only thirteen (see Matthew 1: 12-16)
    33. Who was the father of Shelah?
    • Cainan (Luke 3:35-36)
    • Arphaxad (Genesis II: 12)
    34. Was John the Baptist Elijah who was to come?
    • Yes (Matthew II: 14, 17:10-13)
    • No (John 1:19-21)
    35. Would Jesus inherit David’s throne?
    • Yes. So said the angel (Luke 1:32)
    • No, since he is a descendant of Jehoiakim (see Matthew 1: I 1, I Chronicles 3:16). And Jehoiakim was cursed by God so that none of his descendants can sit upon David’s throne (Jeremiah 36:30)
    36. Jesus rode into Jerusalem on how many animals?
    • One - a colt (Mark 11:7; cf Luke 19:3 5). “And they brought the colt to Jesus and threw their garments on it; and he sat upon it.”
    • Two - a colt and an ass (Matthew 21:7). “They brought the ass and the colt and put their garments on them and he sat thereon.”
    37. How did Simon Peter find out that Jesus was the Christ?
    • By a revelation from heaven (Matthew 16:17)
    • His brother Andrew told him (John 1:41)
    38. Where did Jesus first meet Simon Peter and Andrew?
    • By the sea of Galilee (Matthew 4:18-22)
    • On the banks of river Jordan (John 1:42). After that, Jesus decided to go to Galilee (John 1:43)
    39. When Jesus met Jairus was Jairus’ daughter already dead?
    • Yes. Matthew 9:18 quotes him as saying, “My daughter has just died.”
    • No. Mark 5:23 quotes him as saying, “My little daughter is at the point of death.”
    40. Did Jesus allow his disciples to keep a staff on their journey?
    • Yes (Mark 6:8)
    • No (Matthew 10:9; Luke 9:3)
    41. Did Herod think that Jesus was John the Baptist?
    • Yes (Matthew 14:2; Mark 6:16)
    • No (Luke 9:9)
    42. Did John the Baptist recognize Jesus before his baptism?
    • Yes (Matthew 3:13-14)
    • No (John 1:32,33)
    43. Did John the Baptist recognize Jesus after his baptism?
    • Yes (John 1:32, 33)
    • No (Matthew 11:2)
    44. According to the Gospel of John, what did Jesus say about bearing his own witness?
    • “If I bear witness to myself, my testimony is not true” (John 5:3 1)
    • “Even if I do bear witness to myself, my testimony is true” (John 8:14)
    45. When Jesus entered Jerusalem did he cleanse the temple that same day?
    • Yes (Matthew 21:12)
    • No. He went into the temple and looked around, but since it was very late he did nothing. Instead, he went to Bethany to spend the night and returned the next morning to cleanse the temple (Mark I 1:1- 17)
    46. The Gospels say that Jesus cursed a fig tree. Did the tree wither at once?
    • Yes. (Matthew 21:19)
    • No. It withered overnight (Mark II: 20)
    47. Did Judas kiss Jesus?
    • Yes (Matthew 26:48-50)
    • No. Judas could not get close enough to Jesus to kiss him (John 18:3-12)
    48. What did Jesus say about Peter’s denial?
    • “The cock will not crow till you have denied me three times” (John 13:38)
    • “Before the cock crows twice you will deny me three times” (Mark 14:30) . When the cock crowed once, the three denials were not yet complete (see Mark 14:72). Therefore prediction (a) failed.
    49. Did Jesus bear his own cross?
    • Yes (John 19:17)
    • No (Matthew 27:31-32)
    50. Did Jesus die before the curtain of the temple was torn?
    • Yes (Matthew 27:50-51; Mark lS:37-38)
    • No. After the curtain was torn, then Jesus crying with a loud voice, said, “Father, into thy hands I commit my spirit!” And having said this he breathed his last (Luke 23:45-46)
    51. Did Jesus say anything secretly?
    • No. “I have said nothing secretly” (John 18:20)
    • Yes. “He did not speak to them without a parable, but privately to his own disciples he explained everything” (Mark 4:34). The disciples asked him “Why do you speak to them in parables?” He said, “To you it has been given to know the secrets of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given” (Matthew 13: 1 0-11)
    52. Where was Jesus at the sixth hour on the day of the crucifixion?
    • On the cross (Mark 15:23)
    • In Pilate’s court (John 19:14)
    53. The gospels say that two thieves were crucified along with Jesus. Did both thieves mock Jesus?
    • Yes (Mark 15:32)
    • No. One of them mocked Jesus, the other defended Jesus (Luke 23:43)
    54. Did Jesus ascend to Paradise the same day of the crucifixion?
    • Yes. He said to the thief who defended him, “Today you will be with me in Paradise” (Luke 23:43)
    • No. He said to Mary Magdelene two days later, “I have not yet ascended to the Father” (John 20:17)
    55. When Paul was on the road to Damascus he saw a light and heard a voice. Did those who were with him hear the voice?
    • Yes (Acts9:7)
    • No (Acts22:9)
    56. When Paul saw the light he fell to the ground. Did his traveling companions also fall to the ground?
    • Yes (Acts 26:14)
    • No (Acts 9:7)
    57. Did the voice spell out on the spot what Paul’s duties were to be?
    • Yes (Acts 26:16-18)
    • No. The voice commanded Paul to go into the city of Damascus and there he will be told what he must do. (Acts9:7;22: 10)
    58. When the Israelites dwelt in ****tin they committed adultery with the daughters of Moab. God struck them with a plague. How many people died in that plague?
    • Twenty-four thousand (Numbers 25:1 and 9)
    • Twenty-three thousand (I Corinthians 10:8)
    59. How many members of the house of Jacob came to Egypt?
    • Seventy souls (Genesis 4 & 27)
    • Seventy-five souls (Acts 7:14)
    60. What did Judas do with the blood money he received for betraying Jesus?
    • He bought a field (Acts 1: 18)
    • He threw all of it into the temple and went away. The priests could not put the blood money into the temple treasury, so they used it to buy a field to bury strangers (Matthew 27:5)
    61. How did Judas die?
    • After he threw the money into the temple he went away and hanged himself (Matthew 27:5)
    • After he bought the field with the price of his evil deed he fell headlong and burst open in the middle and all his bowels gushed out (Acts 1:18)
    62. Why is the field called “Field of Blood”?
    • Because the priests bought it with the blood money (Matthew 27:8)
    • Because of the bloody death of Judas therein (Acts 1:19)
    63. Who is a ransom for whom?
    • “The Son of Man came...to give his life as a ransom for many” (Mark 10:45). “Christ Jesus who gave himself as a ransom for all... “(I Timothy 2:5-6)
    • “The wicked is a ransom for the righteous, and the faithless for the upright” (Proverbs 21:18)
    64. Is the law of Moses useful?
    • Yes. “All scripture is... profitable...” (2 Timothy 3:16)
    • No. “. . . A former commandment is set aside because of its weakness and uselessness... “(Hebrews 7:18)
    65. What was the exact wording on the cross?
    • “This is Jesus the King of the Jews” (Matthew 27:37)
    • “The King of the Jews” (Mark 15:26)
    • “This is the King of the Jews” (Luke 23:38)
    • “Jesus of Nazareth, the King of the Jews” (John 19:19)
    66. Did Herod want to kill John the Baptist?
    • Yes (Matthew 14:5)
    • No. It was Herodias, the wife of Herod who wanted to kill him. But Herod knew that he was a righteous man and kept him safe (Mark 6:20)
    67. Who was the tenth disciple of Jesus in the list of twelve?
    • Thaddaeus (Matthew 10: 1-4; Mark 3:13 -19)
    • Judas son of James is the corresponding name in Luke’s gospel (Luke 6:12-16)
    68. Jesus saw a man sitat the tax collector’s office and called him to be his disciple. What was his name?
    • Matthew (Matthew 9:9)
    • Levi (Mark 2:14; Luke 5:27)
    69. Was Jesus crucified on the daytime before the Passover meal or the daytime after?
    • After (Mark 14:12-17)
    • Before. Before the feast of the Passover (John 1) Judas went out at night (John 13:30). The other disciples thought he was going out to buy supplies to prepare for the Passover meal (John 13:29). When Jesus was arrested, the Jews did not enter Pilate’s judgment hail because they wanted to stay clean to eat the Passover (John 18:28). When the judgment was pronounced against Jesus, it was about the sixth hour on the day of Preparation for the Passover (John 19:14)
    70. Did Jesus pray to The Father to prevent the crucifixion?
    • Yes. (Matthew 26:39; Mark 14:36; Luke 22:42)
    • No. (John 12:27)
    71. In the gospels which say that Jesus prayed to avoid the cross, how many times did ‘he move away from his disciples to pray?
    • Three (Matthew 26:36-46 and Mark 14:32-42)
    • One. No opening is left for another two times. (Luke 22:39-46)
    72. Matthew and Mark agree that Jesus went away and prayed three times. What were the words of the second prayer?
    • Mark does not give the words but he says that the words were the same as the first prayer (Mark 14:3 9)
    • Matthew gives us the words, and we can see that they are not the same as in the first (Matthew 26:42)
    73. What did the centurion say when Jesus dies?
    • “Certainly this man was innocent” (Luke 23:47)
    • “Truly this man was the Son of God” (Mark 15:39)
    74. When Jesus said “My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken Me ? ” in what language did he speak?
    • Hebrew: the words are “Eloi, Eloi …..“(Matthew 27:46)
    • Aramaic: the words are “Eloi, Eloi ….. “(Mark 15:34)
    75. According to the gospels, what were the last words of Jesus before he died?
    • “Father, into thy hands I commit my spirit!” (Luke 23:46)
    • "It is finished" (John 19:30)
    76. When Jesus entered Capernaum he healed the slave of a centurion. Did the centurion come personally to request Jesus for this?
    • Yes (Matthew 8:5)
    • No. He sent some elders of the Jews and his friends (Luke 7:3,6)
    77.
    • Adam was told that if and when he eats the forbidden fruit he would die the same day (Genesis 2:17)
    • Adam ate the fruit and went on to live to a ripe old age of 930 years (Genesis 5:5)
    78.
    • God decided that the life-span of humans will be limited to 120 years (Genesis 6:3)
    • Many people born after that lived longer than 120. Arpachshad lived 438 years. His son Shelah lived 433 years. His son Eber lived 464 years, etc. (Genesis 11:12-16)
    79. Apart from Jesus did anyone else ascend to heaven?
    • No (John 3:13)
    • Yes. “And Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven” (2 Kings 2:11)
    80. Who was high priest when David went into the house of God and ate the consecrated bread?
    • Abiathar (Mark 2:26)
    • Ahimelech, the father of Abiathar (I Samuel 1:1; 22:20)
    81. Was Jesus’ body wrapped in spices before burial in accordance with Jewish burial customs?
    • Yes and his female disciples witnessed his burial (John 19:39-40)
    • No. Jesus was simply wrapped in a linen shroud. Then the women bought and prepared spices “so that they may go and anoint him [Jesus)” (Mark 16: 1)
    82. When did the women buy the spices?
    • After “the Sabbath was past” (Mark 16:1)
    • Before the Sabbath. The women “prepared spices and ointments.” Then, “on the Sabbath they rested according to the commandment” (Luke 23:55 to 24:1)
    83. At what time of day did the women visit the tomb?
    • “Toward the dawn” (Matthew 28: 1)
    • “When the sun had risen” (Mark 16:2)
    84. What was the purpose for which the women went to the tomb?
    • To anoint Jesus’ body with spices (Mark 16: 1; Luke 23:55 to 24: 1)
    • To see the tomb. Nothing about spices here (Matthew 28: 1)
    • For no specified reason. In this gospel the wrapping with spices had been done before the Sabbath (John 20: 1)
    85. A large stone was placed at the entrance of the tomb. Where was the stone when the women arrived?
    • They saw that the stone was “Rolled back” (Mark 16:4) They found the stone “rolled away from the tomb” (Luke 24:2) They saw that “the stone had been taken away from the tomb” (John 20:1)
    • As the women approached, an angel descended from heaven, rolled away the stone, and conversed with the women. Matthew made the women witness the spectacular rolling away of the stone (Matthew 28:1-6)
    86. Did anyone tell the women what happened to Jesus’ body?
    • Yes. “A young man in a white robe” (Mark 16:5). “Two men ... in dazzling apparel” later described as angels (Luke 24:4 and 24:23). An angel - the one who rolled back the stone (Matthew 16:2). In each case the women were told that Jesus had risen from the dead (Matthew 28:7; Mark 16:6; Luke 24:5 footnote)
    • No. Mary met no one and returned saying, “They have taken the Lord out of the tomb, and we do not know where they have laid him” (John 20:2)
    87. When did Mary Magdelene first meet the resurrected Jesus? And how did she react?
    • Mary and the other women met Jesus on their way back from their first and only visit to the tomb. They took hold of his feet and worshipped him (Matthew 28:9)
    • On her second visit to the tomb Mary met Jesus just outside the tomb. When she saw Jesus she did not recognize him. She mistook him for the gardener. She still thinks that Jesus’ body is laid to rest somewhere and she demands to know where. But when Jesus said her name she at once recognized him and called him “Teacher.” Jesus said to her, “Do not hold me...” (John 20:11 to 17)
    88. What was Jesus’ instruction for his disciples?
    • “Tell my brethren to go to Galilee, and there they will see me” (Matthew 2 8: 10)
    • “Go to my brethren and say to them, I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God” (John 20:17)
    89. When did the disciples return to Galilee?
    • Immediately, because when they saw Jesus in Galilee “some doubted” (Matthew 28:17). This period of uncertainty should not persist
    • After at least 40 days. That evening the disciples were still in Jerusalem (Luke 24:3 3). Jesus appeared to them there and told them, stay in the city until you are clothed with power from on high” (Luke 24:49). He was appearing to them “during forty days” (Acts 1:3), and “charged them not to depart from Jerusalem, but to wait for the promise ... “(Acts 1:4)
    90. To whom did the Midianites sell Joseph?
    • “To the Ishmaelites” (Genesis 37:28)
    • “To Potiphar, an officer of Pharaoh” (Genesis 37:36)
    91. Who brought Joseph to Egypt?
    • The Ishmaelites bought Joseph and then “took Joseph to Egypt” (Genesis 37:28)
    • “The Midianites had sold him in Egypt” (Genesis 37:36)
    • Joseph said to his brothers “I am your brother, Joseph, whom you sold into Egypt” (Genesis 45:4)
    92. Does God change his mind?
    • Yes. “The word of the Lord came to Samuel: “I repent that I have made Saul King...” (I Samuel 15:10 to 11)
    • No. God “will not lie or repent; for he is not a man, that he should repent” (I Samuel 15:29)
    • Yes. “And the Lord repented that he had made Saul King over Israel” (I Samuel 15:35). Notice that the above three quotes are all from the same chapter of the same book! In addition, the Bible shows that God repented on several other occasions:
    i. “The Lord was sorry that he made man” (Genesis 6:6)
    “I am sorry that I have made them” (Genesis 6:7)
    ii. “And the Lord repented of the evil which he thought to do to his people” (Exodus 32:14).
    iii. (Lots of other such references).
    93. The Bible says that for each miracle Moses and Aaron demonstrated the magicians did the same by their secret arts. Then comes the following feat:
    • Moses and Aaron converted all the available water into blood (Exodus 7:20-21)
    • The magicians did the same (Exodus 7:22). This is impossible, since there would have been no water left to convert into blood.
    94. Who killed Goliath?
    • David (I Samuel 17:23, 50)
    • Elhanan (2 Samuel 21:19)
    95. Who killed Saul?
    • “Saul took his own sword and fell upon it.... Thus Saul died... (I Samuel 31:4-6)
    • An Amalekite slew him (2 Samuel 1:1- 16)
    96. Does every man sin?
    • Yes. “There is no man who does not sin” (I Kings 8:46; see also 2 Chronicles 6:36; Proverbs 20:9; Ecclesiastes 7:20; and I John 1:810)
    • No. True Christians cannot possibly sin, because they are the children of God. “Every one who believes that Jesus is the Christ is a child of God.. (I John 5:1). “We should be called children of God; and so we are” (I John 3: 1). “He who loves is born of God” (I John 4:7). “No one born of God commits sin; for God’s nature abides in him, and he cannot sin because he is born of God” (I John 3:9). But, then again, Yes! “If we say we have no sin we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us” (I John 1:8)
    97. Who will bear whose burden?
    • “Bear one another’s burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ” (Galatians 6:2)
    • “Each man will have to bear his own load” (Galatians 6:5)
    98. How many disciples did Jesus appear to after his resurrection?
    • Twelve (I Corinthians 15:5)
    • Eleven (Matthew 27:3-5 and Acts 1:9-26, see also Matthew 28:16; Mark 16:14 footnote; Luke 24:9; Luke 24:3 3)
    99. Where was Jesus three days after his baptism?
    • After his baptism, “the spirit immediately drove him out into the wilderness. And he was in the wilderness forty days ... (Mark 1:12-13)
    • Next day after the baptism, Jesus selected two disciples. Second day: Jesus went to Galilee - two more disciples. Third day: Jesus was at a wedding feast in Cana in Galilee (see John 1:35; 1:43; 2:1-11)
    100. Was baby Jesus’ life threatened in Jerusalem?
    • Yes, so Joseph fled with him to Egypt and stayed there until Herod died (Matthew 2:13 23)
    • No. The family fled nowhere. They calmly presented the child at the Jerusalem temple according to the Jewish customs and returned to Galilee (Luke 2:21-40)
    101. When Jesus walked on water how did the disciples respond?
    • They worshipped him, saying, “Truly you are the Son of God” (Matthew 14:33)
    • “They were utterly astounded, for they did not understand about the loaves, but their hearts were hardened” (Mark 6:51-52)

    Source: SunnahOnline

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    Re: 101 Clear Contradictions in the Bible

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    format_quote Originally Posted by Omari View Post
    And I challenge you to find me ONE mistake or contradiction in the Quran.
    1- Numerical Contradictions:

    2- Creation of the Heaven and Earth

    3- Sun-set and Sun-rise

    4- A Resting Place For Sun!?

    5- Why Allah Created Stars!

    6- Is Sky/Heaven A ROOF or Canopy Over the Earth?

    7- Does Sun Rotate Around the Earth?

    8- Does Earth Spread Out Like Carpet (flat)

    9- Is Man Created From Clotted Blood?

    10- Is Religion Compulsive or is it not?

    Koran mistakes.... www. faith freedom . org/Articles/SKM/contradictions.htm
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    Re: 101 Clear Contradictions in the Bible

    Now you cand find excuses to all this contradictions of course, like Christians find excuses to the mistakes and contradictions of the Bible.... it´s all the same.

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    Re: 101 Clear Contradictions in the Bible

    First of all you gave me lists of names, not EXACT verses in the quran. And no its not excuses, its merely YOUR (not neccessarily you) misinterpretation and your mistranslation. so its a baseless arguement if you throw at me misinterpertation and i answer them, however i can find mistakes, or "teachings" in the bible that are against humanity as a whole, doesn't this lower it's authencity? and by extension, lower it's chances of being the word of god?
    Now find somthign in the Quran thats againts humanity.
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    Re: 101 Clear Contradictions in the Bible

    format_quote Originally Posted by Omari View Post
    First of all you gave me lists of names, not EXACT verses in the quran.
    follow the link.

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    Re: 101 Clear Contradictions in the Bible

    format_quote Originally Posted by Omari View Post
    Now find somthign in the Quran thats againts humanity.
    [peace be with you]
    Omari
    lol, say that to the terrorists that are blowing them selfs all around Europe...

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    Re: 101 Clear Contradictions in the Bible

    Those are not contradictions, but rather, contradistinctions. When statements can co-exist it's called a contradistinction.
    Now my reply to them are, if I bought an iPod yesterday. and then I say I bought a PSP yesterday. Am I contradicting myself? I don't think so, becuase i could have bought the iPod at 2 ocolock and psp at 3 oclock. Like wise:
    Quran 10: 3 Verily your Lord is Allah, who created the heavens and earth in Six Days

    Quran 41: 9 Is it that ye deny Him who created the earth in Two Days ?

    This is not a contradiction, but a contradistinction.
    Yes god created the heavens and the earth in 6 days.
    so, Heaven + Earth and everything =6 (d)
    H+2= 6 days.
    H=4 days? [allah knows best]
    So you see even with this childlike calculation we can prove that it wasn't a contradiction.

    For more information you can refer to Dr. Zakir Naiks tape ; Quran or the Bible, which is god's word, and you will find that there are no contradictions. NO mistakes in the holy quran.
    [peace be with you brother]
    [Omari]

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    Re: 101 Clear Contradictions in the Bible

    format_quote Originally Posted by ricardo_sousa View Post
    lol, say that to the terrorists that are blowing them selfs all around Europe...
    I HAVE! I AM! I CAN!
    first of all i think it should interest you to know that no where in the quran does it approve of any kind of harm. Infact the quran says, If anyone murders an innocent being, it is as if he has killed the entire humanity. The people who are commiting terrorist acts in the name of religion are not followers of that religion at all, but rather brainwashed into doing somthing that was never taught by the book. (I am from afghanistan, I should know what you mean to say)

    But brother, you cannot label muslims for the work of some individuals. If a new BMW car is out on the market, and a weak driver takes it for a drive and bangs the car up. Who will you blame? the car or the driver? definatly not the manufacturer.

    And I can give you events in history that show people from other religions who commit acts of terrorism.

    For more information you can refer to Dr.Zakir Naik's dvd on Terrorism in the name of Islam.

    And I as a MUSLIM am STRONGLY against anyone who disgraces the name if Islam by blowing himself up and destroying hundreds of INNOCENT lives.

    peace
    Omari

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    Re: 101 Clear Contradictions in the Bible

    format_quote Originally Posted by Woodrow View Post
    I just moved this to the top as some members were asking about it.

    I'm sure Jayda will appreciate you resurrecting her favorite thread.

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    Re: 101 Clear Contradictions in the Bible

    format_quote Originally Posted by Omari View Post
    Those are not contradictions, but rather, contradistinctions. When statements can co-exist it's called a contradistinction.
    Now my reply to them are, if I bought an iPod yesterday. and then I say I bought a PSP yesterday. Am I contradicting myself? I don't think so, becuase i could have bought the iPod at 2 ocolock and psp at 3 oclock. Like wise:
    Quran 10: 3 Verily your Lord is Allah, who created the heavens and earth in Six Days

    Quran 41: 9 Is it that ye deny Him who created the earth in Two Days ?

    This is not a contradiction, but a contradistinction.
    Yes god created the heavens and the earth in 6 days.
    so, Heaven + Earth and everything =6 (d)
    H+2= 6 days.
    H=4 days? [allah knows best]
    So you see even with this childlike calculation we can prove that it wasn't a contradiction.

    For more information you can refer to Dr. Zakir Naiks tape ; Quran or the Bible, which is god's word, and you will find that there are no contradictions. NO mistakes in the holy quran.
    [peace be with you brother]
    [Omari]
    Surah 41:
    9. Say: Is it that ye deny Him Who created the earth in two Days? And do ye join equals with Him? He is the Lord of (all) the Worlds.

    10. He set on the (earth), mountains standing firm, high above it, and bestowed blessings on the earth, and measure therein its sustenance, in four Days, alike for (all) who ask.

    11. Then He turned to the sky, and it had been (as) smoke: He said to it and to the earth: "Come ye together, willingly or unwillingly." They said: "We do come (together), in willing obedience."

    12. So He completed them as seven firmaments in two Days, and He assigned to each heaven its duty and command. And We adorned the lower heaven with lights, and (provided it) with guard. Such is the Decree of (Him) the Exalted in Might, Full of Knowledge.

    2+4+2 equals 8, doesn't it?

    Anyway, I agree with Ricardo. There's an explanation for any of the contradictions, as there is an explanation for every contradiction in the Bible. Belief always finds a way.

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    Re: 101 Clear Contradictions in the Bible

    how do you know he didn't create the earth and the mountains in simultaneously?

    And i suggest you look verse 12.
    So he completed them as seven firmaments in two days, and he assigned to each heaven its duty and command.And we adorned the lower heaven with lights, and (provided it) with guard. Such is the Decree of (him) the Exalted in might, Full of Knowledge.

    This is a miracle, the quran speaks about the earth's atmosphere's 7 layers! and it speaks that they all have their own duties and commands. [Thank you brother for posting this verse i am sure many muslims and non muslims will benefit from it]

    Peace be with you brother
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    101 Clear Contradictions in the Bible

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    Re: 101 Clear Contradictions in the Bible

    format_quote Originally Posted by Omari View Post
    how do you know he didn't create the earth and the mountains in simultaneously?
    According to that translation (no doubt someone can advise if it is inaccurate) the mountains were "set on the earth"; which must therefore have existed prior to the setting? If the process was simultaneous, why is it not described as such?

    BTW, the earth's atmosphere doesn't have "7 layers", any more than it does 4,5,6 or 14 layers (you'll find lists analysing it all of those ways if you look). And what are those 'lights' in the lower heaven? As usual, no 'miracle'!
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    Re: 101 Clear Contradictions in the Bible

    format_quote Originally Posted by Whatsthepoint View Post
    Surah 41:
    9. Say: Is it that ye deny Him Who created the earth in two Days? And do ye join equals with Him? He is the Lord of (all) the Worlds.

    10. He set on the (earth), mountains standing firm, high above it, and bestowed blessings on the earth, and measure therein its sustenance, in four Days, alike for (all) who ask.

    11. Then He turned to the sky, and it had been (as) smoke: He said to it and to the earth: "Come ye together, willingly or unwillingly." They said: "We do come (together), in willing obedience."

    12. So He completed them as seven firmaments in two Days, and He assigned to each heaven its duty and command. And We adorned the lower heaven with lights, and (provided it) with guard. Such is the Decree of (Him) the Exalted in Might, Full of Knowledge.

    2+4+2 equals 8, doesn't it?

    Anyway, I agree with Ricardo. There's an explanation for any of the contradictions, as there is an explanation for every contradiction in the Bible. Belief always finds a way.
    I expected a little better from you..

    anyhow here is a detailed tafsir from suret FUSSILAT !

    THE FORTY-FIRST SURAH

    FUSSILAT (CLEARLY SPELLED OUT)

    MECCA PERIOD

    REVEALED immediately after the preceding surah, this one continues the theme begun in the latter: man’s reasoned acceptance or willful rejection of divine revelations. The title is derived from the verb fussilat occurring in verse 3, where it relates to the “clearly spelled-out” messages of the Quran.

    DIVINE WRIT IN ARABIC

    IN THE NAME OF GOD, THE MOST GRACIOUS, THE DISPENSER OF GRACE: (1) Ha. Mim. [See Appendix II.] (2) THE BESTOWAL from on high [of this revelation] issues from the Most Gracious, the Dis*penser of Grace: (3) a divine writ, the messages whereof have been clearly spelled out as a discourse in the Arabic tongue for people of [innate] knowl*edge, [See 12: 2 and the corresponding note.] (4) to be a herald of glad tidings as well as a warning. And yet, [whenever this divine writ is offered to men,] most of them turn away, so that they cannot hear [its message]; [The “people of [innate] knowledge” mentioned in the preceding verse are obviously those who understand the spiritual purport of this divine writ and, therefore, submit to its guidance: hence, it cannot be “most of them” who are referred to in the above phrase and in the next verse but, on the contrary, people who are devoid of such knowledge and to whom, in consequence, the Quran is meaningless. This elliptically implied differentiation - overlooked by almost all of the commentators (with perhaps the sole exception of Ibn Kathir) - can only be brought out by means of an interpolation at the beginning of the sentence.] (5) and so they say, [as it were:] “Our hearts are veiled from whatever thou callest us to, [O Muhammad,] and in our ears is deafness, and between us and thee is a barrier. [For this rendering of the term hijab, see note on the first sentence of 7: 46. See also 6: 25. The “saying” of those who turn away from the message of the Quran is, of course, figurative, describing only their attitude.] Do, then, [whatever thou wilt, whereas,] behold, we shall do [as we have always done]!”

    BELIEF IN GOD’S ONENESS AND CHARITABLENESS

    (6) Say thou, [O Prophet:] “I am but a mortal like you. [Cf. 6: 50 and the corresponding note.]

    It has been revealed to me that your God is the One God: go, then, straight towards Him and seek His forgiveness!” And woe unto those who ascribe divinity to aught beside Him, (7) [and] those who do not spend in charity: for it is they, they who [thus] deny the truth of the life to come! [Belief in God’s oneness and charitableness towards one’s fellow-men are two cardinal demands of Islam. Conversely, a deliberate offence against either of these two demands amounts to a denial of man’s responsibility before God and hence, by implication, of a continuation of life in the hereafter. (For my rendering of zakah, in this context, as “charity”, see note on 2: 43. It is to be borne in mind that the application of this term to the obligatory tax incumbent on Muslims dates from the Medina period, whereas the present surah is a Meccan revelation.)] (8) [But,] verily, they who have attained to faith and do good works shall have a reward unending!

    CREATION OF EARTH

    (9) SAY: “Would you indeed deny Him who has created the earth in two aeons? [For the above rendering of the term yawm (lit., “day”), as “aeon”, see last third of note on 7: 54. As in so many verses of the Quran which relate to cosmic events, the repeated mention of the “six aeons” during which the universe was created - “two” of which, according to the above verse, were taken by the evolution of the inorganic universe, including the earth - has a purely allegorical import: in this case, I believe, an indication that the universe did not exist “eternally” but had a definite beginning in time, and that it required a definite time-lapse to evolve to its present condition.] And do you claim that there is any power that could rival Him, the Sustainer of all the worlds?” [Lit., “do you give Him compeers (andad)?” For an explanation, see note on 2: 22.] (10) For He [it is who, after creating the earth,] placed firm mountains on it, [towering] above its surface, and bestowed [so many] blessings on it, and equitably apportioned * its means of subsistence to all who would seek it: [I.e., in accordance with divine justice, and not with human concepts of “equity” or “need”.] [and all this He created] in four aeons. [Almost all the classical commentators agree in that these “four aeons include the “two” mentioned in the preceding verse: hence my interpolation of the words “and all this He created”. Together with the “two aeons of verse 12, the entire allegorical number comes to six.] (11) And [Whenever the particle thumma is used, as in the above instance, to link parallel statements – i.e., statements not necessarily indicating a sequence in time - it has the function of a simple conjunction, and may be rendered as “and”.] He [it is who] applied His design to the skies, which were [yet but] smoke; [I.e., a gas - evidently hydrogen gas, which physicists regard as the primal element from which all material particles of the universe have evolved and still evolve. For the meaning of the term sama (“sky” or “skies” or “heaven”) in its cosmic connotation, see note on 2: 29.] and He [it is who] said to them and to the earth, “Come [into being], both of you, willingly or unwillingly!” - to which both responded, “We do come in obedience.” [Explaining this passage, Zamakhshari observes: “The meaning of God’s command to the skies and the earth to ‘come’, and their submission [to His command] is this: He willed their coming into being, and so they came to be as He willed them to be and this is the kind of metaphor (majaz) which is called ‘allegory’ (tamthil). Thus, the purport [of this passage] is but an illustration (taswir) of the effect of His almighty power on all that is willed [by Him], and nothing else.” (It is obvious that Zamakhshari’s reasoning is based on the oft-repeated Quranic statement, “When God wills a thing to be, He but says unto it, ‘Be’ - and it is.”) Concluding his interpretation of the above passage, Zamakhshari adds: “If I am asked about the meaning of [the words] ‘willingly or unwillingly’, I say that it is a figurative expression (mathal) indicating that His almighty will must inevitably take effect.”] (12) And He [it is who] decreed that they become seven heavens * in two aeons, and imparted unto each heaven its function. [*I.e., a multiplicity of cosmic systems (cf. note on

    2: 29).] And We adorned the skies nearest to the earth with lights, and made them secure: [Cf. 15: 16-18 and the corresponding notes; also 37: 6ff.] such is the ordaining of the Almighty, the All-Knowing.

    THUNDERBOLT OF PUNISHMENT FOR TRIBE OF AD AND THAMUD

    (13) BUT IF they turn away, say: [This connects with the opening sentence of verse 9 above: “Would you indeed deny Him who has created…”, etc.] “I warn you of [the coming of] a thunderbolt of punishment [See note on 2: 55.] like the thunderbolt [that fell upon the tribes] of Ad and Thamud!” [For the story of these two ancient tribes, see 7: 65-79 and the corresponding notes; also 26: 123-158.] (14) Lo! There came unto them [God’s] apostles, speaking of what lay open before them and what was [still] beyond their ken, * [and calling unto them,] “Worship none but God!” [*Lit., “from between their hands and from behind them”: i.e., reminding them of something that was known to them - namely, what happened to sinners like themselves who lived before their time - and warning them of what was bound to happen in the future to them, too, if they persisted in their denial of the truth (Al-Hasan al-Basri, as quoted by Zamakhshari). However, it is possible to understand the above phrase (which has been explained in note on 2: 255) in yet another, more direct way: God’s message-bearers pointed out to those sinning communities something that should have been obvious to them (lit., “between their hands”) - namely, their patently wrong attitude in their worldly, social concerns and moral concepts - as well as the unreasonableness of their denying something that was still beyond their ken (lit., “behind them”): namely, life after death and God’s ultimate judgment.] They answered: “If our Sustainer had willed [us to believe in what you say], He would have sent down angels [as His message-bearers]. [Cf. 6: 8-9 and 15: 7.] As it is, behold, we deny that there is any truth in what you [claim to] have been sent with!” (15) Now as for [the tribe of] Ad, they walked arrogantly on earth, [offending] against all right, and saying, “Who could have a power greater than ours?” Why - were they, then, not aware that God, who created them, had a power greater than theirs? But they went on rejecting Our messages; (16) and thereupon We let loose upon them a storm wind raging through days of misfortune, [See 69: 6-8.] so as to give them, in the life of this world, a foretaste of suffering through humiliation: but [their] suffering in the life to come will be far more humiliating, and they will have none to succour them. (17) And as for [the tribe of] Thamud, We offered them guidance, but they chose blindness in pre*ference to guidance: and so the thunderbolt of shame*ful suffering fell upon them as an outcome of all [the evil] that they had wrought; (18) and We saved [only] those who had attained to faith and were conscious of Us.

    SINNERS BEARING WITNESS AGAINST THEMSELVES ON THE JUDGMENT DAY

    (19) Hence, [warn all men of] the Day when the enemies of God shall be gathered together before the fire, and then shall be driven onward, (20) till, when they come close to it, their hearing and their sight and their [very] skins will bear witness against them, speaking of what they were doing [on earth]. (21) And they will ask their skins, “Why did you bear witness against us?” - [and] these will reply: “God, who gives speech to all things, has given speech to us [as well]: for He [it is who] has created you in the first instance - and unto Him you are [now] brought back. (22) And you did not try to hide [your sins] lest your hearing or your sight or your skins bear witness against you: nay, but you thought that God did not know much of what you were doing - (23) and that very thought which you thought about your Sustainer has brought you to perdition, and so now you find yourselves among the lost!” (24) And then, [even] if they endure [their lot] in patience, the fire will still be their abode; [Sc., “unless God wills to reprieve them”: see the last paragraph of 6: 128 and the corresponding note; also the hadith quoted in note on 40: 12.] and if they pray to be allowed to make amends, they will not be allowed to do so: [Lit., “they will not be of those who are allowed to make amends”: an allusion to the request of the doomed, on the Day of Judgment, to be granted a “second chance” on earth, and to God’s refusal of this request (cf. 6: 27-28 and 32: 12).]

    EVIL SOUL-MATES

    (25) for [when they became obli*vious of Us,] We assigned to them [their own evil impulses as their] other selves, [Or: “soul-mates” (cf. 4: 38). The verb qarana, from which the noun qarin is derived, signifies “he linked” or “intimately associated” or “yoked together [one thing with another]”. Cf. 43: 36 - “as for anyone who chooses to remain blind to the remembrance of the Most Gracious, to him We assign an [enduring] evil impulse [lit., “a Satan”], to become his other self”.] and these made appear goodly to them whatever lay open before them and whatever was beyond their ken. [Lit., “that which was between their hands and that which was behind them”: i.e., their own evil impulses (which had become their “other selves”, as it were) made alluring to them the unrestrained enjoyment, without any moral discrimination, of all the worldly attractions which lay open before them, causing them, at the same time, to dismiss as an illusion the idea of resurrection and of God’s judgment - thus giving them a false sense of security with regard to something that was beyond their ken.] And so, the sentence [of doom] will have fallen due upon them together with the [other sinful] com*munities of invisible beings [For this rendering - and the meaning - of the term jinn, see Appendix III.] and humans that passed away before their time: verily, they [all] will indeed be lost!

    SUFFERING FOR KNOWINGLY REJECTING GOD’S MESSAGES

    (26) NOW THOSE who are bent on denying the truth say [unto one another]: “Do not listen to this Quran, but rather talk frivolously about it, so that you might gain the upper hand!” [This is an allusion to efforts aimed at discrediting the Quran by describing it as “invented” by Muhammad for his own - personal and political - ends, as a series of “misunderstood quo*tations” from earlier scriptures, as the result of “hallucinations”, and so forth: all of which implies that the opponents of the Quranic message instinctively feel its force, realizing at the same time that it endangers their self-complacent, materialistic outlook on life and ought, therefore, to be combated. This explains the statement, at the end of verse 28, that they “knowingly reject” God’s messages.] (27) But We shall most certainly give those who are [thus] bent on denying the truth a taste of suffering severe, and We shall most certainly requite them according to the worst of their deeds! (28) That requital of God’s enemies will be the fire [of the hereafter]: in it will they have an abode of immeasurable duration as an outcome of their having knowingly rejected Our messages. [For the above rendering of the verb jahada, see the third note on 29: 47.] (29) And they who [in their life on earth] were bent on denying the truth will [thereupon] exclaim: “O our Sustainer! Show us those of the invisible beings and humans that have led us astray: [See 6: 112 - “against every prophet We have set up as enemies the evil forces (shayatin) from among humans as well as from among invisible beings” - and the corresponding note.] we shall trample them underfoot, so that they shall be the lowest of all!” [Cf. 7: 38.]

    DESCENDING OF ANGELS ON DOERS OF GOOD

    (30) [But,] behold, as for those who say, “Our Sustainer is God,” and then steadfastly pursue the right way - upon them do angels often descend, [say*ing:] “Fear not and grieve not, but receive the glad tiding of that paradise which has been promised to you! (31) We are close unto you in the life of this world and [will be so] in the life to come; and in that [life to come] you shall have all that your souls may desire, and in it you shall have all that you ever prayed for, (32) as a ready welcome from Him who is much-forgiving, a dispenser of grace!” (33) And who could be better of speech than he who calls [his fellow-men] unto God, and does what is just and right, and says, “Verily, I am of those who have surrendered themselves to God”?

    REPEL EVIL WITH GOOD

    (34) But [since] good and evil cannot be equal, repel thou [evil] with something that is better [See note on 13: 22. In the present instance, the injunction to “repel [evil] with something that is better” relates to scurrilous objections to, and hostile criticism of, the Quran. The whole of this passage (verses 33 ff.) connects with verse 26.] - and lo! he between whom and thyself was enmity [may then become] as though he had [always] been close [unto thee], a true friend! [You foil hatred with love and liberate those from sin and make them your true friends.] (35) Yet [to achieve] this is not given to any but those who are wont to be patient in adversity: it is not given to any but those endowed with the greatest good fortune! (36) Hence, if it should happen that a prompting from Satan stirs thee up [to blind anger], seek refuge with God: behold, He alone is all-hearing, all-knowing! [I.e., He alone sees what is in the hearts of men, and He alone understands the innermost motivations, of which they themselves are unconscious, of those who criticize the Quran adversely. See 7: 199-200 and the corresponding notes.]

    GOD AS CAUSE AND SOURCE OF ALL THAT EXISTS

    (37) Now among His signs are the night and the day, as well as the sun and the moon: [hence,] adore not the sun or the moon, but prostrate yourselves in adoration before God, who has created them - if it is Him whom you [really] worship. [This, according to Razi, connects with the phrase “calling [one’s fellow-men] unto God” in verse 33 above. God is the sole cause and source of all that exists; and whatever exists is but a wondrous sign of His creative power. Hence, it is a blasphemy - apart from being unreasonable - to ascribe real power (which is the meaning of “adoration” in this context) to anything created, whether it be a concrete phenomenon, or an abstract force of nature, or a set of circumstances, or even an idea.] (38) And though some be too proud [to listen to this call], they who [in their hearts] are with thy Sustainer extol His limitless glory by night and by day, and never grow weary [thereof]. (39) For among His signs is this: thou seest the earth lying desolate - and lo! when We send down water upon it, it stirs and swells [with life]! Verily, He who brings it to life can surely give life to the dead [of heart as well]: for, behold, He has the power to will anything. [Although the allusion to the reviving earth often occurs in the Quran as a parable of man’s ultimate resurrection, in the present context (and in tune with the entire passage comprising verses 33-39) it appears to be an illustration of God’s power to bestow spiritual life upon hearts that have hitherto remained closed to the truth of His existence and omnipotence. Hence, it implies a call to the believer never to abandon the hope that “those who deny the truth” may one day grasp the truth of the Quranic message.]

    REJECTION OF THE THEORY OF ABROGATION

    (40) VERILY, they who distort the meaning of Our mes*sages are not hidden from Us: hence, which [of the two] will be in a better state - he that is [destined to be] cast into the fire, or he that shall come secure [before Us] on Resurrection Day? Do what you will: verily, He sees all that you do. (41) Verily, they who are bent on denying the truth of this reminder as soon as it comes to them - [they are the losers]: for, behold, it is a sublime divine writ: (42) no falsehood can ever attain to it openly, and neither in a stealthy manner, * [since it is] bestowed from on high by One who is truly wise, ever to be praised. [*Lit., “neither from between its hands, nor from behind it”, i.e., it cannot be openly changed by means of additions or omissions (Razi), and neither surreptitiously, by hostile or deliberately confusing interpretations. The above is one of the Quranic passages on which the great com*mentator Abu Muslim al-Isfahani (as quoted by Razi) bases his absolute rejection of the theory of “abrogation” (for which see note on 2: 106). Since the “abrogation” of any Quran-verse would have amounted to its ibtal - that is, to an open or implied declaration that it was henceforth to be regarded as null and void - the verse in question would have to be considered “false” (batil) in the context of the Quran as it is before us: and this, as Abu Muslim points out, would clearly contradict the above statement that “no falsehood (batil) can ever attain to it”.]

    MEN’S ATTITUDES TOWARDS THE EARLIER SCRIPTURES AND THE QURAN

    (43) [And as for thee, O Prophet,] nothing is being said to thee but what was said to all [of God’s] apostles before thy time. [This is an allusion to the allegation of the Prophet’s opponents that he himself was the “author” of what he claimed to be a divine revelation, as well as to their demand that he should “prove” the truth of his prophetic mission by producing a miracle: a scornful attitude with which all the earlier prophets had been confronted at one time or another, and which is epitomized in the “saying” of the unbelievers mentioned in verse 5 of this surah.] Behold, thy Sustainer is indeed full of forgiveness - but He has also the power to requite most grie*vously! (44) Now if We had willed this [divine writ] to be a discourse in a non-Arabic tongue, they [who now reject it] would surely have said, “Why is it that its messages have not been spelled out clearly? [Sc., “in a tongue which we can understand”. Since the Prophet was an Arab and lived in an Arabian environment, his message had to be expressed in the Arabic language, which the people to whom it was addressed in the first instance could understand: see in this connection note on the first sentence of 13: 37, as well as the first half of 14: 4 - “never have We sent forth any apostle otherwise than [with a message] in his own people’s tongue, so that he might make [the truth] clear unto them”. Had the message of the Quran been formulated in a language other than Arabic, the opponents of the Prophet would have been justified in saying, “between us and thee is a barrier” (verse 5 of this surah).] Why - [a message in] a non-Arabic tongue, and [its bearer] an Arab?” Say: “Unto all who have attained to faith, this [divine writ] is a guidance and a source of health; but as for those who will not believe - in their ears is deafness, and so it remains obscure to them: they are [like people who are] being called from too far away. [Lit., “from a far-off place”: i.e., they only hear the sound of the words, but cannot understand their meaning.] (45) Thus, too, have We vouchsafed revelation unto Moses aforetime, and thereupon disputes arose about it. [As was and is the case with the Quran, some people accepted the divine message revealed to Moses, and some rejected it (Zamakhshari, Razi), while others disagreed about the import and application of its tenets (Tabari).] And [then, as now,] had it not been for a decree that had already gone forth from thy Sustainer, all would indeed have been decided between them [from the outset]. [For an explanation of this passage, as well as of the above parallel between men’s attitudes towards the earlier scriptures and the Quran, see the second sentence of 10: 19 and the corresponding note.] As it is, behold, they [who will not believe in this divine writ] are in grave doubt, amounting to suspicion, about what it portends. [Lit., “about it”, i.e., doubts as to whether the Quranic approach to problems of man’s spirit and body - and, in particular, its stress on the essential unity of these twin aspects of human life (cf. note on the first sentence of 2: 143) - is justified or not. In a wider sense, these doubts of the deniers of the truth relate to the question of whether religion as such is “beneficial” or “injurious” to human society - a question which is posed and answered by them with a strong bias against all religious faith.] (46) WHOEVER does what is just and right, does so for his own good; and whoever does evil, does so to his own hurt: and never does God do the least wrong to His creatures.

    JUDGMENT DAY

    (47) In Him alone is vested the knowledge of when the Last Hour will come. And no fruit bursts forth from its calyx, and no female ever conceives, nor ever gives birth, save with His knowledge. And so, on the Day when He shall call out to them, “Where, now, are those [alleged] partners of Mine?” - they will [surely] answer, “We confess unto Thee that none of us can bear witness [to anyone’s having a share in Thy divinity]!” (48) And so, all that they were wont to invoke aforetime will have forsaken them; and they shall know for certain that there is no escape for them.

    (49) MAN NEVER TIRES of asking for the good [things of life]; and if evil fortune touches him, he abandons all hope, giving himself up to despair. [See note on 11: 9.] (50) Yet whenever We let him taste some of Our grace after hardship has visited him, he is sure to say, “This is but my due!” - and, “I do not think that the Last Hour will ever come: [I.e., man is, as a rule, so blinded by his love of this world that he cannot imagine its ever coming to an end. Implied in this statement is a doubt as to whether there will really be an afterlife, and whether man will really be judged by God on resurrection.] but if [it should come, and] I should indeed be brought back unto my Sus*tainer, then, behold, the ultimate good awaits me with Him! [Being fully convinced of his own merit (as expressed in the words, “This is but my due”), he is confident that - in case there should really be a life after death - his own flattering view of himself will be confirmed by God.] But [on the Day of Judgment] We shall most cer*tainly give those who were bent on denying the truth [I.e., the truth of resurrection and of God’s judgment.] full understanding of all that they ever did, and shall most certainly give them [thereby] a taste of suffering severe. [I.e., the realization of the spiritual blindness in which they spent their life will in itself be a source of their suffering in the hereafter: cf. 17: 72 - “whoever is blind [of heart] in this [world] will be blind in the life to come (as well)”.] (51) And, too, when We bestow Our blessings upon man, he tends to turn aside and keep aloof [from remembering Us]; but as soon as evil fortune touches him, he is full of wordy prayers! [Lit., “wide (i.e., prolonged or diffuse) prayers”.] (52) HAVE YOU given thought [to how you will fare] if this be truly [a revelation] from God, the while you deny its truth? Who could be more astray than one who places himself [so] deeply in the wrong? [According to Razi, this is an implied allusion to the attitude of people who - as mentioned in verses 4 and 5 of this surah - “turn away” from the message of the Quran, saying, as it were: “Our hearts are veiled from whatever thou callest us to, [O Muhammad,] and in our ears is deafness, and between us and thee is a barrier.] (53) In time We shall make them fully understand [Lit., “We will show them” or “make them see”.] Our messages [through what they perceive] in the utmost horizons [of the universe] and within them*selves, [I.e., through a progressive deepening and widening of their insight into the wonders of the universe as well as through a deeper understanding of man’s own psyche - all of which points to the existence of a conscious Creator.] so that it will become clear unto them that this [revelation] is indeed the truth. [Still,] is it not enough [for them to know] that thy Sustainer is witness unto everything? [I.e., that He is almighty and all-seeing: a fundamental truth which, by itself, should be enough to remind man of his responsibility before Him.] (54) Oh, verily, they are in doubt as to whether they will meet their Sustainer [on Judgment Day]! Oh, verily, He encompasses everything!
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    including the tropopause...
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    Re: 101 Clear Contradictions in the Bible

    format_quote Originally Posted by Omari View Post
    including the tropopause...
    The point is that you can include, exclude, combine or split with equal validity in a multitude of ways. Had the Qur'an said 4,5 or 6 (or 8), point to the right list and it would seem equally 'miraculous' if you thought that particular analysis was the only one!

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    ah well, it was just an example, i can set out a hundred more examples of the quran being confirmed by modern science, some of which can only be argued for the sake of arguement and not correction.
    Let me know if you want
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    Re: 101 Clear Contradictions in the Bible

    format_quote Originally Posted by Joe98 View Post
    Can we keep the discussion to this item.


    Can anybody tell me why it matters whether he cleansed the temple one day or the next day? Do you sit up at night worrying about it?


    Mathew and Mark, were 2 of the 12 disciples. They were both witnesses to the events. But they wrote their gospels many years after the events from memory.

    The question of whether he cleansed the temple on one day or the next day is evidence that men have bad memories. And we can conclude that the episode actually happened.
    Dude, you don't get the point don't you. Yes, if these were written by men alone I would accept the mistakes but you should know that Christians claim that this men were inspired by the Holy Spirit, one third of the trinity. SO! How could the Holy Spirit inspire the two writers to write different stories. The whole point is that these verses were actually were written by men alone without any such inspiration. GOT it?

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    Re: 101 Clear Contradictions in the Bible

    format_quote Originally Posted by Omari View Post
    i can set out a hundred more examples of the quran being confirmed by modern science
    format_quote Originally Posted by Omari View Post
    Let me know if you want
    Yes, I want.

    I could also ask you this one:

    Muslims will quote Quran 2:79 as a verse where the Koran says the canon of the Bible is corrupted, "Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands, and then say: "This is from God," to traffic with it for miserable price!" My question is: If this verse refers to the corruption of the Bible, then why did Muhammad command Christians to follow the Bible they possessed in 600 AD in Quran 2:89; 7:157? And is this the only verse in the Koran that says the Bible is corrupt? (see also Quran 2:40-42,126,136,285; 3:3,71,93; 4:47,136; 5:47-51, 69,71-72; 6:91; 10:37,94; 21:7; 29:45,46; 35:31; 46:11)
    And, guess what, I can deliver you 59 other passes like this which are also uncomfortable for muslims.
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    Re: 101 Clear Contradictions in the Bible

    format_quote Originally Posted by Trumble View Post
    The point is that you can include, exclude, combine or split with equal validity in a multitude of ways. Had the Qur'an said 4,5 or 6 (or 8), point to the right list and it would seem equally 'miraculous' if you thought that particular analysis was the only one!
    good example. Any mistakes in the Sacred Books are "disprove", just manipulating science and the "numbers"... Not because it is the true.

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    Re: 101 Clear Contradictions in the Bible

    format_quote Originally Posted by guyabano View Post
    Yes, I want.
    I don't. We've seen it all before so many times and nobody has changed their minds on this one yet. The arguments are pretty much irrelevant as which of them you find convincing depends almost exclusively on your starting assumptions.

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    Re: 101 Clear Contradictions in the Bible

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    (9) SAY: “Would you indeed deny Him who has created the earth in two aeons? [For the above rendering of the term yawm (lit., “day”), as “aeon”, see last third of note on 7: 54.
    I can't find the note...
    Anyway, this reminds me on the Bible science, where they too say one day signifies an aeon or any long definite amount of time found elswhere in the Bible.
    It is matter of interpretation, I guess, although I think the author of the Quran thought the earth was created in 6-8 days, not aeons.

    For He [it is who, after creating the earth,] placed firm mountains on it, [towering] above its surface, and bestowed [so many] blessings on it, and equitably apportioned * its means of subsistence to all who would seek it: [I.e., in accordance with divine justice, and not with human concepts of “equity” or “need”.] [and all this He created] in four aeons. [Almost all the classical commentators agree in that these “four aeons include the “two” mentioned in the preceding verse: hence my interpolation of the words “and all this He created”. Together with the “two aeons of verse 12, the entire allegorical number comes to six.] (11) And [Whenever the particle thumma is used, as in the above instance, to link parallel statements – i.e., statements not necessarily indicating a sequence in time - it has the function of a simple conjunction, and may be rendered as “and”.]
    Well, a good explanation, similar to that of the Catholics who justify Mary's perpetual virginity despite the verse saying "And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS" (Mt 1:25).
    Aynway, I am not a scholar, I do not speak Arabic, but my common sense tells me then Earth had to be created, done in order for the mountains to be set on it...
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