By Imam Ibn ul Qayyim al Jawziyyah: It is obvious to anyone with reason that Satan has greatly manipulated these misled people (Christians). He called them and they responded to him; he befooled them and they obeyed him.
He manipulated them with regards to Allah, the Exalted and Most High.
He manipulated them with regards to Jesus (peace be upon him).
He manipulated them with regards to the cross and the worship of it.
He also manipulated them with regards to making pictures and statues in churches and then worshipping them, so you will not find one of their churches without the picture of Mary and Jesus, saints and other holy individuals and martyrs of theirs. Most of them prostrate to pictures and statues, and pray to them instead to Allah the Most High…
The typical example of what these polytheists are doing is like that of a servant of a king who entered upon a man, so the man jumped from his place, prostrated to the servant, worshipped him, and did to him what he was not supposed to do except to the king. Every rational person would consider him an ignorant and a fool because of what he did, since he did to the king’s servant what he was supposed to do only to the king, in terms of honoring, humbleness and humility.
It is well-known that what the servant did here is more likely to cause the king to hate him and look down upon him than to honor him and exalt his status.
This is the situation of one who prostrates to creation, or a picture of creation. This is because he resorted to prostration which is the greatest means of reaching the Lord’s pleasure. Such an action is not valid except for Allah, so there is no greater repulsiveness or injustice than doing it for a picture or statue of a servant and equalizing between Allah and His servant.
This is why Allah the Most High said, “Verily, shirk (polytheism, setting up partners with Allah) is a great injustice.” [Luqman: 33]
Allah the Most High has created his worshippers prone to recognize ugliness in expressing exaltation, glorification, sumbisiveness and humility towards king’s slaves and servants (as such actions are usually done for the king).
So what is the situation of the one who shows this type of reverence to king’s enemies? For Satan is the enemy of Allah, and the polytheist is in reality setting Satan, not Allah’s prophets and righteous servants¸ as a partner with Allah. For the prophets and righteous servants have nothing to do with those who set them as partners with Allah; they are against them and the strongest in hatred of all people towards them. The polytheists, therefore, are only setting up as partners with Allah His enemies, and equalizing between them and Allah in worship, exaltation, prostration and humility.
This is why the invalidity and ugliness of polytheism is recognized by sound innate nature and reason, and this type of ugliness is recognized more clearly than its other types.
The intent here was to mention Satan’s manipulation of these people in both the foundation and branches of their religion.
Assalamualaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh to Muslims. Greeting and peace to non-Muslims.
If a Muslim perform salah in front of cross or statue, I must remind him to not do it. This is my duty as a Muslim. But if a Catholic pray in front of cross or statue?. That's not my business. He is not a Muslim. So, I will not do anything to him.
Every religion has it own way of pray that look strange for people from other religions. But this is not an excuse to insult each other, mocking each other. There is no advantage that we can get if we do this.
Every religion has it own way of pray that look strange for people from other religions. But this is not an excuse to insult each other, mocking each other. There is no advantage that we can get if we do this.
Better we build religious tolerance.
Ameen to that.
Every blessing
Eric
You will never look into the eyes of anyone who does not matter to God.
Satan doesn't just manipulate Christians he does it to Muslims as well. In fact, he does it to all people groups and religions. Those who cannot see this have been manipulated by Satan to think that way.
I believe that the use of the terms 'Son' and 'Father' in the gospels are figurative not literal as illustrated by John 20:16-17 Jesus saith unto her, Mary. She turneth herself, and saith unto him in Hebrew, Rabboni; which is to say, Teacher. Jesus saith to her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended unto the Father: but go unto my brethren, and say to them, I ascend unto my Father and your Father, and my God and your God. Can you extract yourself from your Christian faith and read those last few words from an unbiased perspective? Jesus put himself on equal footing as his disciples with them having the same relation to God as 'my Father and your Father, and my God and your God."
Yes, but you can't take one verse and make a doctrine out of it. It has to be balanced with other Scripture. God is father of all His creation in the general sense, but in another sense He is not. for Satan has his children. so we are all God's creation but we are not all His children.
It is the father (God) that calls Jesus His "beloved Son" "This is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased hear ye Him" God didn't say "my begotten son" He said, "beloved Son." In other words, this speaks of the uniqueness of Christ's Sonship especially since he had no earthly father with the exception of Joseph who didn't beget Jesus, but God did through the Holy Spirit as a miraclous Immaculate Conception without the intervention of sexual intercourse. Adam was created without a mother but his father was God, but unlike Jesus who always existed as God's word. That is why Jesus is considerd the last Adam. The first Adam screwed things up for mankind, but the last Adam reconciles us to God.
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Sadly, IMO, Christians are placing their trust for salvation in the very thing that puts them in danger of the Hellfire. I know from personal experience that unless God opens your eyes, you will not be able to see the truth that there is only One God and that Muhammad was His messenger and servant.
Well, this is were Christianity and Islam part ways. We believe God had already established the way to heaven before Muhammad was born as documented in the Bible. We see no reason why God should change His terms during Muhammad's life time or Joseph Smith life time who also was visited by angels giving him the book of Mormon. We must meet God on His terms or it is at our peril to do otherwise.
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