Discussion/Questions on Sikhism

**SilentObserver** · 12-31-2006

I have noticed that there are threads for the purpose of asking christians and jews questions about their religions, but none for Sikhs. I also noticed that I know squat about the sikh religion.

So I have started this thread with the hopes that our sikh members will answer our questions when they have time.

Please, no debating. Just questions and answers. If you don't agee with a particular point that is made in an answer, then start another thread for the purpose of debate.

I would first ask if a sikh member could just give us a quick summary of their religion.

Second, a specific question. A member used the name Waheguru, in a post. Who is Waheguru?

**cali dude** · 03-19-2007

Originally Posted by Al Madani

Lol. Sorry but I find this sentence amusing. So if today fornication in the streets became norm, I'm sure Sikhi would accept it ? After all your law is the law of the land you live in. Thus, when a religion is like grass that cannot support itself and it moves with the wind it is no surprise that the ignorant masses who (in my example consider fornication on streets norm) would find anything wrong with it. It's not the society thats conforming with you, its you that's conforming with the society, no matter how low the society gets. A religion has to be a way of life, but as you have stated that your book is merely a book about God not detailing the way to live, and your book does not outline what is correct and what is not, then frankly, its false. You can go tell people how a machine works, but until you teach them how to use it, they will get no where with it. Likewise you can tell people about life, but until they are told the best way to use it, they are not going to get anywhere with it.

When we say that no country could find anything immoral in Sikhi, it doesn't mean that we accept any immoral as is. Well it's pretty normal for you people to twist things around. Unless people somehow harm others, we understand whatever they do is their own business and we don't believe in punishing them. It doesn't mean we start doing whatever they are doing. I am pretty sure you saw it that vices pretty much cover everything when it comes to separating right from wrong.

But yes unlike Islam, nobody could ever find anything immoral in Sikhi.

Originally Posted by Al Madani

That is today's society's perception. You'll find that perception of something differs in the East and in the West. So this actually is a proof against you, then for you since if we were to look at Sikhs in the West, then they are living under different societical norms, and those in the East are under different ones. Thus, there leaves no consistency in your religion, and a religion that isn't consistent and can be bent to fit the society simply cannot be true.

It isn't simply society's perception, there are apparently a few things that have been proven to be wrong in Islam. People who classify themselves as Sikhs may or may not be different than each other, but it doesn't mean the principles of Sikhi change.

Originally Posted by Al Madani

Islam benefits the society it comes to and does not just accept the society, silently approving all the faults within it. Br. Fi provided a quote which you compeltely ignored, because you could not respond to it and you were forced to repeat yourself again. It must be really hard to find faults with the religion when one is forced to repeat themselves so much eh?

Well it isn't our faults that you simply refuse to accept the faults we have found.

Originally Posted by Al Madani

That simply doesn't make sense. Why are you paying your bills then. Call up the company and tell them, your laws don't apply to me because my Sikhi law is superior to yours. That shouldn't be a problem to you since Sikhi is a religion that can go wherever the wind takes it.

Did you find anywhere in Sikhi law where it says that a Sikh should not pay his/her bills or are you just making it up? Please provide us with any reference or link.

Originally Posted by Al Madani

And here we go again. It's like you feel that you can 'prove' your religion by bringing up a point that has been refuted a thousand times over. You know what I find amusing about this? This is the same arguement that you have brought up in the past 40 pages. Not only that, its the same arguement that has been brought up against Islam for the years, can't you think of anything new, this is just too boring now

So can you answer if you wouldn't feel at all if someone older than you came to you and proposed to your daughter? Some times, it's a better to ask yourself whether or not something would be acceptable to you in order to determine morality of it.

**NoName55** · 03-19-2007

SikhSpectrum.com Monthly Issue No.5, October 2002 Sikhism and Islam by Sardar Kapur Singh

This article was first published in The Missionary, March 1963. Noted Sikh scholar, Sirdar Kapur Singh answers Quadi of Mosul. --Editor
exerpt:

The Koran has three distinct elements in its texts:
i. Dissertations on the nature of God and man's relation to Him
ii. Pronouncements on Social organization and ethics
iii. Statements on Judaic mythology

Guru Nanak ignores the last as irrelevant to the message that he has to preach to the mankind. He also considers this as uninteresting, for, he makes very sparse, if at all, even passing references to it. With regard to the second element in the Koran, namely, the laws and principles of social organisation and social ethics, Guru Nanak would seem to reject most of them as contingent and non-perennial.

It is the first element in the Koran which the Guru takes seriously and on which he has made a large number of pronouncements. The space and scope of this answer forbids any detailed discussion of this point and I would, therefore, just state that Guru Nanak seems to find most of it as worthy of consideration and even assent and he has explicitly incorporated its essentials in the Sacred Book of the Sikhs, the Guru Granth, though only after a personal digestion and re-interpretation.

I must make this statement slightly clearer.

In sura 2, called Albaqr, the Cow, for instance, amid brief disquisitions on a multitude of subjects, including pilgrimages, divorce, menstruation, the rights of women, proposals of marriage, and the need for killing the adversaries of Islam, there appears, quite unexpectedly, one of the grandest verses of the Koran the famous throne-verse.
There is no God save Him, the living the eternal;
Slumber overtaketh Him not, nor doth sleep weary Him.
Unto Him belongeth all things in Heaven and on the earth.
Who shall intercede with Him save by His will.
His throne is as vast the Heavens and the earth.
And the keep of them wearieth Him not.
He is exalted, the mighty One.

It is this beautiful and noble text which claims the attention and general assent of Guru Nanak and it is this text which he has matched by his own famous text, the Sodar, that Gate, or The Gate, as there being no definite article in the Indo-Sanskrit languages, it can only be expressed as that:
Like what is that Gate?
With what compares that Abode?
By visiting where He sustains All?

Then in this text Guru Nanak goes to imply that the formal nature of this "Throne" is best comprehensible by human mind through reference to those areas of Reality that pertain to sound and feeling rather than those that pertain to visual and spatial aspects of Reality, as is implicated by the Koranic text.

Herein Guru Nanak has the advantage of his acquaintance with the categories of the Samkhya school of Hindu Philosophy that categorises sound as the subject element of sensibilia and perception. It is only by a careful and critical analysis of such parallel texts in the Koran and the Guru Granth, that the true interrelationship between Islam and Sikhism can be properly understood.

Another grand verse, sura 24 in the Koran goes under the name of mishkatul-anwar. The tabernacle. This is the text to which the Mohamedan mystics and Sufis have returned again and again, never tiring of the mysterious Lamp whose rays bathe the whole universe:
God is the Light of the heavens and earth.
The similitude of His Light is a niche wherein is a lamp.
And the lamp is within a glass.
And the glass, as it were a pearly star.
This lamp is lit from a blessed tree.
An olive neither of the east nor of the west;
Almost this oil would shine though no
fire touched it.
Light upon Light, God guideth whom He will to His Light,.
And He speaketh in parables to men, for He knoweth all things.

Now, Guru Nanak has taken an unmistakable note of this text. Guru Nanak was also familiar with certain Hindu sacred texts (Vaikunth, and Dipaparijvalanam in the Guradudapauranam) that speak of the Lamp that guides men here and hereafter, Guru Nanak has revealed a text which not only takes note of all these Moslem and Hindu sacred texts but which constitutes the Guru's own disquisition on the Lamp that guides. Guru Nanak opens by declaring:
My Light is the Name of One and only God.
And its oil is the pain and suffering:
The former is consumed and the latter is then done away with.
And, lo! there is no-doing between I and Death.

A large number of similar texts in the Guru Granth, are, in this manner, grounded in the Islamic and Hindu sacred texts but invariably the former have the content and identity of their own.

This is true and correct relationship between Islam and Sikhism. As for Guru Nanak's attitude towards the Muslim Prophet Mohammed, it has to be a matter of inference, for, nowhere in the voluminous Guru Granth, the name of the Moslem Prophet occurs, directly or indirectly, though Koran is mentioned by name more than once.

The Sikh doctrine on the subject is sharp and clear, the born is perishable, and all praise is due to the Timeless. In so far as the Guru perceived excellence in Mohammed, he attributed it exclusively to the grace of God, and whatever was contingent, unenduring in the words and deeds of Mohammed he deemed as merely human and impermanent trait.

There is no other way of answering the question put by the learned Quadi from Mosul.

**جوري** · 03-19-2007

Originally Posted by NoName55

SikhSpectrum.com Monthly Issue No.5, October 2002 Sikhism and Islam by Sardar Kapur Singh

This article was first published in The Missionary, March 1963. Noted Sikh scholar, Sirdar Kapur Singh answers Quadi of Mosul. --Editor
exerpt:

Yes it is a borrowed "religion" they took some from here some from there and made their own--There is no divine revelation therein--- at least this gentleman was wise enough to admit it!
thanks akhi for sharing..

**cali dude** · 03-19-2007

If Sikhi were a borrowed religion, then why wouldn't it talk about so-called paradise having wine and 72 virgins?

Instead Sikhi says that all of the Muslim and Hindus rituals are useless and stresses on recognizing Lord's hukam...

**Ibn Abi Ahmed** · 03-19-2007

Originally Posted by cali dude

When we say that no country could find anything immoral in Sikhi, it doesn't mean that we accept any immoral as is. Well it's pretty normal for you people to twist things around. Unless people somehow harm others, we understand whatever they do is their own business and we don't believe in punishing them. It doesn't mean we start doing whatever they are doing. I am pretty sure you saw it that vices pretty much cover everything when it comes to separating right from wrong.

That's funny, because you stated throughout this thread that you don't have a set of laws. Your book is a book about God. What defines your norms, and values is the society. Therefore if society considers something permissible, it is. And sice this varies, the definition of vices will also vary.

It's not the society thats conforming with you, its you that's conforming with the society, no matter how low the society gets. You can go tell people how a machine works, but until you teach them how to use it, they will get no where with it. Likewise you can tell people about life, but until they are told the best way to use it, they are not going to get anywhere with it.

But yes unlike Islam, nobody could ever find anything immoral in Sikhi.

Claims, claims, and more claims, 40 pages worth of claims and yet no proof. We're going around in circles again. Your definition of 'immoral' is defined by the society you are living in, if you lived in Africa, you would have a different defintion. Get some consistency please.

It isn't simply society's perception, there are apparently a few things that have been proven to be wrong in Islam.

You have failed to provide this 'proof' in 40 pages of this thread my freind. All you managed to provide was your own opinion which in a factual discussion is worth frankly nothing.

People who classify themselves as Sikhs may or may not be different than each other, but it doesn't mean the principles of Sikhi change.

Wait, now Sikhi has principles? Didn't you say that your book is a book only about God? And if we can't find these principles in your book which you claim is a 'divine revleation from God' then it is false.

Well it isn't our faults that you simply refuse to accept the faults we have found.

The ones based on your opinions without evidence? Do you see the irony?

Did you find anywhere in Sikhi law where it says that a Sikh should not pay his/her bills or are you just making it up? Please provide us with any reference or link.

You stated:

A Sikh doesn't need to follow any laws of the world.

So can you answer if you wouldn't feel at all if someone older than you came to you and proposed to your daughter? Some times, it's a better to ask yourself whether or not something would be acceptable to you in order to determine morality of it.

Yes, if the person was suitable. But the fact is that no one proposes to someone that young today. Why don't you read Fi Sabillilah's post again? It seems as if this is another post of his that you've conveniently ignored:
http://www.islamicboard.com/683004-post534.html

**جوري** · 03-19-2007

Originally Posted by cali dude

If Sikhi were a borrowed religion, then why wouldn't it talk about so-called paradise having wine and 72 virgins?

Instead Sikhi says that all of the Muslim and Hindus rituals are useless and stresses on recognizing Lord's hukam...

Actually my friend who is (Sikh) says that she believes in both reincarnation and in heaven... keeping with both Hindu and Islamic beliefs...what you believe happens in either realm or how you get there would be in accordance with what your elders (Gurus) tweaked (made up) along the way...
By the way we are all stating facts here... there is really no need to be abrasive! The above article quoted by the Brother was in fact written by a Sikh not a Muslim....If you have found the ultimate truth why are you not at peace? Why do you come here stirring trouble?

peace!

**cali dude** · 03-19-2007

Noname55,

Which article are you talking about?

This is what I found:

SikhSpectrum.com Monthly - Issue No.5, October 2002

Main Page
Let's Talk About Sex - Preet Mohan Singh
The Absurd Man - Albert Camus
Our Roots On The American Soil - Jasmit Singh
A Lost Opportunity For "Civilization" - Tara Ashtakala
Identity Through Bollywood Cinema - Jennifer Thakar
Fundamentalism, Modernity and Sikhism: A Tertium Quid - Noel Q. King
Boundless Scripture Of Guru Granth sahib - Harbans Lal
Poems : The True Sovereigns - Jetty Singh
A Nation Of Bystanders - Vishvajit Singh
Soft Relativism and The Malise Of Modernity - Russell McNeil
Signs of Reassurance Amid The National Anguish - K.P. Singh
Poems : British Blues - Jennifer Takhar
Interview : Makhdoon Syed Chan Pir Quadri on Sikh Muslim Relations - Yoginder Sikand
Turbans And Terror: Racism After September 11 - Valarie Kaur
Sikhs, Media and Beyond - Vishvajit Singh
Women In Indian Cinema - Amitabha Bagchi

**cali dude** · 03-19-2007

Originally Posted by PurestAmbrosia

Actually my friend who is (Sikh) says that she believes in both reincarnation and in heaven... keeping with both Hindu and Islamic beliefs...what you believe happens in either realm or how you get there would be in accordance with what your elders (Gurus) tweaked (made up) along the way...
By the way we are all stating facts here... there is really no need to be abrasive! The above article quoted by the Brother was in fact written by a Sikh not a Muslim....If you have found the ultimate truth why are you not at peace? Why do you come here stirring trouble?

peace!

I couldn't find anywhere in Guru Granth Sahib where it says anything about 72 virgins and wine in so-called paradise.

**جوري** · 03-19-2007

Originally Posted by cali dude

I couldn't find anywhere in Guru Granth Sahib where it says anything about 72 virgins and wine in so-called paradise.

What can I say he didn't want to plagiarize it all I suppose?.... BTW... I really don't want to go down this path with you....
Besides I believe you have no reservation on drinking wine now and going through a few chicks with your ever society acquiescing laws? and I believe you have even stated that People should govern their own sexual behavior here if memory serves me? How does your short life span compare with eternity that you should mock what one should seek/have for all eternity?
peace!

**cali dude** · 03-19-2007

Originally Posted by Al Madani

That's funny, because you stated throughout this thread that you don't have a set of laws. Your book is a book about God. What defines your norms, and values is the society. Therefore if society considers something permissible, it is. And sice this varies, the definition of vices will also vary.

It's not the society thats conforming with you, its you that's conforming with the society, no matter how low the society gets. You can go tell people how a machine works, but until you teach them how to use it, they will get no where with it. Likewise you can tell people about life, but until they are told the best way to use it, they are not going to get anywhere with it.

Controlling vices covers everything. You should be paying attention my friends...

Originally Posted by Al Madani

Claims, claims, and more claims, 40 pages worth of claims and yet no proof. We're going around in circles again. Your definition of 'immoral' is defined by the society you are living in, if you lived in Africa, you would have a different defintion. Get some consistency please.

No my definition of morality is defined by five vices...

Originally Posted by Al Madani

Wait, now Sikhi has principles? Didn't you say that your book is a book only about God? And if we can't find these principles in your book which you claim is a 'divine revleation from God' then it is false.

Yes Sikhi principles are so superior than an ordinary person can't follow them...

Originally Posted by Al Madani

The ones based on your opinions without evidence? Do you see the irony?
You stated:

A Sikh doesn't need to follow any laws of the world.

Once someone follow law of Sikhi, s/he will automatically not be breaking any laws unless they are immoral as per Sikhi...

Originally Posted by Al Madani

Yes, if the person was suitable. But the fact is that no one proposes to someone that young today. Why don't you read Fi Sabillilah's post again? It seems as if this is another post of his that you've conveniently ignored:
http://www.islamicboard.com/683004-post534.html

So now you go by the "social norms". Would age of the person be a factor in determining suitability?

**cali dude** · 03-19-2007

Originally Posted by PurestAmbrosia

What can I say he didn't want to plagiarize it all I suppose?.... BTW... I really don't want to go down this path with you....
Besides I believe you have no reservation on drinking wine now and going through a few chicks with your ever society acquiescing laws? and I believe you have even stated that People should govern their own sexual behavior here if memory serves me? How does your short life span compare with eternity that you should mock what one should seek/have for all eternity?
peace!

What? Please find any quotes form me...

**جوري** · 03-19-2007

Originally Posted by cali dude

What? Please find any quotes form me...

I don't understand what you wrote there... is this confabulation part of the ultimate truth?

**snakelegs** · 03-19-2007

Originally Posted by cali dude

Yes Sikhi principles are so superior than an ordinary person can't follow them...

i didn't know that sikhism claims itself as The One True Religion, superior to all others......?
how many people in the world do you think are capable of following the principles of their religions?

**NoName55** · 03-19-2007

Question and Answer Details

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TopBar 06 - Discussion/Questions on Sikhism

TopBar 07 - Discussion/Questions on Sikhism

Name of Questioner

Mohammed - Pakistan

Title

How to Convince a Sikh about Islam?

Date

03/Nov/2003

Question

As-salamu `alaykum

Dear brother or sister,

I'm reading about Sikhism because I'm intending to help some Sikhs to convert to Islam. It's not an easy task, so would you please help me answering the following questions?

Was Guru Nanak a Muslim?

Is it true that the Sikh's holy book, the Adit, contains some ideas of Muslim and Hindu holy men or scholars?

Could you give me some information to be used with a Sikh by which I can convince him of the Qur'an and raise doubts about his own book?

Jazakum Allah khayrun

Topic

Conveying the Message, Interfaith Issues

Name of Counselor

Shahul Hameed

Answer

TopBar 10 - Discussion/Questions on Sikhism

Salam, Mohammed.

Thank you very much for your question.

Sikhism as we know it today is the result of the teachings of the ten Gurus, the first of which was Guru Nanak (1469-1539) and the tenth and last of which was Guru Gobind Singh (1666-1708).

Guru Nanak spread a simple message: "We are all one, created by the One Creator of all Creation." There is no definitive biography of Guru Nanak, though there have been many attempts to write the story of his life by his devotees after his death.

According to Dr. Hari Ram Gupta, author of A Life-Sketch of Guru Nanak, Nanak started his mission at a time when both Hinduism and Islam as practiced in the Indian Subcontinent had become distorted and degraded. The caste system was at its worst, and all kinds of corruption had become rampant in society. Men of vision were worried, and they attacked the rot that had set in the society. Rather than address the socio-political problems, the reformers of the day tried to initiate a spiritual movement that would turn people towards God. They believed that this was the way to cure the ills of the society.

Guru Nanak was indeed the most important of these reformers. He was born to a simple Hindu family. From an early age, he made friends with both Hindus and Muslims and acquired a good knowledge of Hinduism and Islam. He used to spend long hours in discussions with Muslim and Hindu holy men of the area.
There is a story of how he disappeared for three days and came back with enlightenment. It is reported that he was no longer the same person he had been. Then he uttered these words:

"There is but One God, His name is Truth, He is the Creator, He fears none, He is without hate, He never dies, He is beyond the cycle of births and death, He is self illuminated, He is realized by the kindness of the True Guru. He was True in the beginning, He was True when the ages commenced and has ever been True, He is also True now." (Japji)

These words are enshrined at the beginning of the Sikh holy scripture, the Guru Granth Sahib. It was 1499 and Guru Nanak was thirty years old at this time.

After this, with a Muslim companion, Guru Nanak undertook long journeys as part of a spiritual mission. He took twelve years to return from this first journey. He then set out on a second journey traveling as far south as Sri Lanka. On his third journey Guru Nanak traveled to the north to Tibet.

Guru Nanak visited Sheikh Ibrahim, the Muslim successor of Baba Farid, the great Sufi dervish of the twelfth century at Ajodhan. When asked by Ibrahim which of the two religions was the true way to attain God, Guru Nanak replied, "If there is one God, then there is only His way to attain Him, not another. One must follow that way and reject the other. Worship not him who is born only to die, but Him Who is eternal and is contained in the whole universe."

On his fourth great journey Guru Nanak dressed in the blue garb of a Muslim pilgrim and traveled to Makkah. He visited Madinah and Baghdad, too.

After having spent a lifetime in traveling abroad and setting up missions, an aged Nanak returned home to Punjab. He settled down at Kartharpur with his family. People came from far and near to hear his hymns and preaching.

After Guru Nanak’s death in September 1539, his Hindu followers thought him to be a Hindu and his Muslim followers thought him to be a Muslim. That is to say, both Muslims and Hindus viewed him from the perspective of their respective faiths.

It was the later disciples of Nanak who gave shape to a new religion, of which Nanak is considered the first Guru. In 1604, Arjan Dev (one of the ten Gurus) compiled the hymns of Guru Nanak along with the compositions of both Hindu and Muslim holy men, like Jaidev, Surdas, Sheikh Farid, and Kabir. The compiled book was enshrined by Arjan in the Golden Temple and was called the Adi Granth.

It was the tenth Guru, Gobind Singh, who organized the community of Sikhs into a khalsa — "a spiritual brotherhood devoted to purity of thought and action." He taught his followers to wear long hair (kesh, denoting saintly appearance), underwear (kachha, denoting self-control), iron bangle (kara, denoting purity in acts), comb (kangha, denoting cleanliness of mind and body), and sword (kirpan, denoting fight for a just cause).

The Sikh scripture called the Adi Granth (called respectfully as Guru Granth Sahib) is considered the Supreme Spiritual Authority and Head of the Sikh religion, rather than any living person. It contains the works of not only the ten Gurus but also the hymns by sufis like Sheikh Farid (1175 - 1265) and Sheikh Bhikan (who died during the early part of Akbar’s reign).

From the foregoing, we understand the following:

Guru Nanak was a religious reformer at best; he was not the founder of any new religion.
Sikhism is the creation of the Gurus, particularly of Guru Gobind Singh, whose compositions and innovations form the content and the framework of the new religion.
The scripture of Sikhism is not any revelation from God but only the compositions of the Gurus as well as those of certain Muslim and Hindu mystics. For this reason, there is no meaning in talking about the authenticity of the book as a Divine Revelation. Because neither the book nor the authors claim it to have been revealed by God.
As Muslims, we can perform da`wah to the Sikhs, chiefly by appealing to their faith in the Oneness of God. We can tell them that Guru Nanak was most probably a Muslim when he died; the available evidence favors that conclusion. Anyway he did not try to replace Islam with a new religion; on the other hand, his utterances point to the fact that he certainly believed Islam to be the True Religion of God.

And Allah knows best.

Useful links:

Sikhism and Hinduism in Islamic Perspective

Islamic Etiquette in Greeting Hindus and Sikhs

There Is Not a Nation but a Warner Sent to Them

Fatwas on Comparative Religions

Reincarnation: Do Muslims Believe in It?
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**AvarAllahNoor** · 03-19-2007

please Take Anything Related To The Guru Nanak Thread. Sikhs Have Taken Nothing From The Quran Or Ved Or Even The Bible Or Torah Or Anything Else. It Was Word Of God Recieved By Guru Nank Dev Ji!!!

**AvarAllahNoor** · 03-19-2007

Cali veer, you're going around attacking, debating is one thing. This is not what Guru Nanak Dev taught! :-(

**AvarAllahNoor** · 03-19-2007

NONAME, i do not know waht you're taking, but this line is rubbish ''The scripture of Sikhism is not any revelation from God''

I demand the mods delete it please!

**AvarAllahNoor** · 03-19-2007

Originally Posted by PurestAmbrosia

Yes it is a borrowed "religion" they took some from here some from there and made their own--There is no divine revelation therein--- at least this gentleman was wise enough to admit it!
thanks akhi for sharing..

Sikhi is not borrowed. Can mods please delete these lies. Is this what you call debate guys?

You're mocking our religion and I'm not pleased.

Satgur ki bani sat sat kar janho gursikho, Har Karta aap muho kadhae. Disciples of the Guru know that the True Guru's words are perfectly true, God Has Had Me Utter It!!

More verses can be provided - DO NOT MOCK SIKHI

**AvarAllahNoor** · 03-19-2007

Originally Posted by PurestAmbrosia

Actually my friend who is (Sikh) says that she believes in both reincarnation and in heaven... keeping with both Hindu and Islamic beliefs...what you believe happens in either realm or how you get there would be in accordance with what your elders (Gurus) tweaked (made up) along the way...

By the way we are all stating facts here... there is really no need to be abrasive! The above article quoted by the Brother was in fact written by a Sikh not a Muslim....If you have found the ultimate truth why are you not at peace? Why do you come here stirring trouble?

peace!

I find this highly offensive!!!

OK, then what Salman Rushdie said about the Quran, was true as well...after all he was a muslim too.....

**cali dude** · 03-19-2007

Originally Posted by snakelegs

i didn't know that sikhism claims itself as The One True Religion, superior to all others......?

well that's why Sikhi is the greatest

Originally Posted by snakelegs

how many people in the world do you think are capable of following the principles of their religions?

i guess it really depends. if religion is easy to be followed, many people can. for example, if you were to follow Rajneesh's path, it would be easy. of course it wouldn't get anyone anywhere. but if it's the purest religion, then of course it isn't easy...