Dr. Zakir studied comparitive religion. He did that debate with a Hindu religious leader. In India , his audiences are mainly hindus. when Zakir quoted from their holy scriptures , they could not protest .
If possible , try to watch his debates (at least 1 ) ; if not the whole lecture only Q & A parts , very interesting & informative.
I enjoyed his following debates.
1 with Dr. Campbell about Bible & Quran ; another was about veg food ; his lectures on similarities between Hinduism & Islam , concept of God in major religions are very informative.
He has a bias. Therefore he cannot be trusted because every word of Hinduism he preaches is to make Islam look better.
muslim woman,
dr. zakir may be a great scholar. still, if i wanted to explore hinduism, i would go to hindu sources.
if i want to explore islam, am i going to go to a christian scholar?
-- I agree with u that to know about a religion , it's better to go its sources . But when u hear a debate , u can listen to both sides .Zakir had a hindu scholar with him
look at the debate topic i posted :The Concept of God in Hinduism and Islam : In the light of sacred scriptures
when Zakir gave quote /mentioned verses from Hindus holy book , can they protest that no , it's not in my holy books ? They can't do that because indeed their holy books have these verses.
To know about Islam , if u hear a debate between Muslim & Christian scholars , surely it's not the best way to learn but ......we can know a little bit about other religion in an interesting way.
All don't have patience to read others holy book. I have hindus books ; can't make time to read the whole book sometimes find it hard , sometimes boring .
Christ will never be proud to reject to be a slave to God .....holy Quran, chapter Women , 4: 172
Muslim Woman, he is obviously a bright man, although I view many of his opinion wrong, and I think his analysis of Judaism and "mohammad in the tanakh) is laughable, I think he has a great memmory and mind.
However, there are a ton of Christians who know a ton about Islam, and I can safely say that you would not point someone towards their site to learn about Islam.
Muslim Woman, he is obviously a bright man, although I view many of his opinion wrong,
--pl. give examples
and I think his analysis of Judaism and "mohammad in the tanakh) is laughable,
--- i can understand u don't believe that Muhammed (p) is the Last Prophet ( that debate will be settled down on the Last Day ) but which analysis of Judaism is wrong ?
I think he has a great memmory
--yap , unbelievable . When Christians can't quote from Bible without seeing the book , Zakir utters verbatim from memory....Alhamdulillah.
However, there are a ton of Christians who know a ton about Islam, and I can safely say that you would not point someone towards their site to learn about Islam.
--if u refer me a debate site where i can find both Muslim & Christian , Insha Allah i will try to listen
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Christ will never be proud to reject to be a slave to God .....holy Quran, chapter Women , 4: 172
I have in the refutations I have posted about all of his accusations on Mohammad being in the Tanakh.
--if u refer me a debate site where i can find both Muslim & Christian , Insha Allah i will try to listen
But you should not. The Christians when they speak about Islam have an agenda. As do the Muslims, and all other religions that claim you must be one of them to be saved.
I have in the refutations I have posted about all of his accusations on Mohammad being in the Tanakh.
--i m not interested about this point....i told u .....God Willing , it will be settled down on the Last Day. What other topics about Judaism u find illogical/ wrong ?
But you should not. The Christians when they speak about Islam have an agenda. As do the Muslims, and all other religions that claim you must be one of them to be saved.
--of course , i won't explore any Chrsitian site to know about Islam. But what's wrong if i hear a debate ? I will be able to listen to the both sides .
If i believe my religion is true , then of course i must believe that for salvation it's the way....what's wrong with it ?
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Christ will never be proud to reject to be a slave to God .....holy Quran, chapter Women , 4: 172
-- I agree with u that to know about a religion , it's better to go its sources . But when u hear a debate , u can listen to both sides .Zakir had a hindu scholar with him
look at the debate topic i posted :The Concept of God in Hinduism and Islam : In the light of sacred scriptures
when Zakir gave quote /mentioned verses from Hindus holy book , can they protest that no , it's not in my holy books ? They can't do that because indeed their holy books have these verses.
To know about Islam , if u hear a debate between Muslim & Christian scholars , surely it's not the best way to learn but ......we can know a little bit about other religion in an interesting way.
All don't have patience to read others holy book. I have hindus books ; can't make time to read the whole book sometimes find it hard , sometimes boring .
if i want to learn more about islam - why would i listen to a debate between some great christian scholar and a muslim?
i also don't have patience (or motivation) to read a bunch of holy books, but if i were interested in hinduism, i would go to a hindu source and not a debate.
i don't consider a debate about which religion is the right one to be a good source of info about either religion unless i am plagued by this question myself.
there is plenty you can learn without reading the holy books. (hindusim has many and they're big, besides!)
each man thinks of his own fleas as gazelles
question authority
--of course , i won't explore any Chrsitian site to know about Islam. But what's wrong if i hear a debate ? I will be able to listen to the both sides .
If i believe my religion is true , then of course i must believe that for salvation it's the way....what's wrong with it ?
Nothing at all. I am just explaining my reasoning for why I would be cautious in believeing a scholor from one religion speak about another religion.
Hinduism, like Budhism, is essentially a monist religion. The many gods are in fact all aspects of the One. The same principle exists in Judaic mysticism.
Hinduism, like Budhism, is essentially a monist religion. The many gods are in fact all aspects of the One. The same principle exists in Judaic mysticism.
I think Buddhism believes in an "energy source" although correct me if I am wrong.
Many monists do not use the term God as this implies an entity that is seperate from humanity. Monism is a belief that everything is One. This belief is universal amongst mystics: Sufis (Islamic) Kabbalists (Jewish) etc. According the the Qur'an, everything comes from God, which would imply a monist ideology.
Many monists do not use the term God as this implies an entity that is seperate from humanity. Monism is a belief that everything is One. This belief is universal amongst mystics: Sufis (Islamic) Kabbalists (Jewish) etc. According the the Qur'an, everything comes from God, which would imply a monist ideology.
You're a Jew and you don't know that? There are ten God names on the Kabbalist's Tree of Life, which is essentially a basic map of the universal mind: Ahiah, Yah, Yahovah, Al etc. The third emanation encompasses the first 2, each being a successive oglomeration of the other, and again encompasses the remaining 7, they being a conscious reflection thereof.
You're a Jew and you don't know that? There are ten God names on the Kabbalist's Tree of Life, which is essentially a basic map of the universal mind: Ahiah, Yah, Yahovah, Al etc. The third emanation encompasses the first 2, each being a successive oglomeration of the other, and again encompasses the remaining 7, they being a conscious reflection thereof.
I have about ten names for a friend of mine that I call him once in a while as well. So your saying that Kabbalah teaches everything in the world is one? :X
I have about ten names for a friend of mine that I call him once in a while as well. So your saying that Kabbalah teaches everything in the world is one? :X
I dont agree with what Laith Al-Doory said:
but:
No Tanach(Torah) Tells us everything is one!!!! (are you really jewish???)
Deuteronomy 6:4
Sh'ma Yis'ra'eil Ad*nai El*heinu Ad*nai echad. Hear, Israel, the Lord is our God, the Lord is One.
Come on Everything is from G*d!!!!
G*d is everywhere and in everything!!! (remember your pesach post)
PS: the hebrew is a link to a site so it cant be errased.
Last edited by King David; 04-18-2007 at 06:09 AM.
The three worlds are catually the same world(earth) in a different time: The world has three stages
the demon world
1)The world between the garden of eden and the Time of Noah.
the human world
2)The current world : Between Noah and Olam Habah(hereafter,world to come)
the heavenly world
3)The world of the Olam Habah(hereafter,world to come) that will be again like The Garden Of Eden(Paridise). Where the rightiousdead will be ressurected.
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