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Why does God Heal Influenza but cant regenerate limbs.
For believers, it is obvious why so many prayers are answered. In the Bible, Jesus promises many times that he will answer our prayers. For example, in Matthew 7:7 Jesus says:
Ask, and it will be given you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For every one who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened. Or what man of you, if his son asks him for bread, will give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a serpent? If you then, who are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask him! Ask and you will receive. What could be simpler than that?
In Matthew 17:20 Jesus reiterates that same message:
For truly, I say to you, if you have faith as a grain of mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there,' and it will move; and nothing will be impossible to you.
Since a mustard seed is a tiny inanimate object about the size of a grain of salt, it is easy to imagine that the faith of a mustard seed is fairly small. So, paraphrasing, what Jesus is saying is that if you have the tiniest bit of faith, you can move mountains.
Jesus says something similar in Matthew 21:21:
I tell you the truth, if you have faith and do not doubt, not only can you do what was done to the fig tree, but also you can say to this mountain, 'Go, throw yourself into the sea,' and it will be done. If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer.
The message is reiterated Mark 11:24:
Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours.
In John chapter 14, verses 12 through 14, Jesus tells all of us just how easy prayer can be:
"Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes in me will also do the works that I do; and greater works than these will he do, because I go to the Father. Whatever you ask in my name, I will do it, that the Father may be glorified in the Son; if you ask anything in my name, I will do it.
In Matthew 18:19 Jesus says it again:
Again I say to you, if two of you agree on earth about anything they ask, it will be done for them by my Father in heaven. For where two or three are gathered in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
Jesus is actually in our midst and God answers our prayers.
A simple experiment
For this experiment, we need to find a deserving person who has had both of his legs amputated. For example, find a sincere, devout person who was involved in a tragic automobile accident.
Now create a prayer circle over the internet of a few hundred thousand. The job of this prayer circle is simple: pray to God to restore the amputated legs of this deserving person. I do not mean to pray for a team of renowned surgeons to somehow graft the legs of a cadaver onto the body, nor for a team of renowned scientists to craft mechanical legs for him.
Pray that God spontaneously and miraculously restores the legs overnight, .
If possible, get millions of people all over the planet to join the prayer circle and pray their most fervent prayers. Get millions of people praying in unison for a single miracle for this one deserving amputee. Then stand back and watch.
What is going to happen? Jesus clearly says that if you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer. He does not say it once -- he says it many times in many ways in the Bible.
And yet, even with millions of people praying, nothing will happen.
No matter how many people pray. No matter how sincere those people are. No matter how much they believe. No matter how devout and deserving the recipient. Nothing will happen. The legs will not regenerate. Prayer does not restore the severed limbs of amputees. You can electronically search through all the medical journals ever written -- there is no documented case of an amputated leg being restored spontaneously. And we know that God ignores the prayers of amputees through our own observations of the world around us. If God were answering the prayers of amputees to regenerate their lost limbs, we would be seeing amputated legs growing back every day.
Isn't that odd? The situation becomes even more peculiar when you look at who God is. According to the Standard Model of God:
God is all-powerful. Therefore, God can do anything, and regenerating a leg is trivial.
God is perfect, and he created the Bible, which is his perfect book. In the Bible, Jesus makes very specific statements about the power of prayer. Since Jesus is God, and God and the Bible are perfect, those statements should be true and accurate.
God is all-knowing and all-loving. He certainly knows about the plight of the amputee, and he loves this amputee very much.
God is ready and willing to answer your prayers no matter how big or small. All that you have to do is believe. He says it in multiple places in the Bible. Surely, with millions of people in the prayer circle, at least one of them will believe and the prayer will be answered.
God has no reason to discriminate against amputees. If he is answering millions of other prayers to heal every day, God should be answering the prayers of amputees too.
Nonetheless, the amputated legs are not going to regenerate.
What are we seeing here? It is not that God sometimes answers the prayers of amputees, and sometimes does not. Instead, in this situation there is a very clear line. God never answers the prayers of amputees. It would appear, to an unbiased observer, that God is singling out amputees and purposefully ignoring them.
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We are dealing with a false dichotomy. This is similar to stating that Bill Gates could fund PBS, but PBS is still fundraising, therefore Bill Gates doesn't exist.
Why doesn't God "regenerate" lost limbs for those who pray to Him to do so? I don't know. Strangely, there are many things I don't know about God. Imagine that.
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not, and a sense of humor was provided to console him for what he is."
It is technically feasable. There are some creatures that can do this.
The reason God doesn't allow humans to regenerate limbs is because there is no god.
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No offense, but that is rather weak argument. Lizards can regenerate limbs but human beings cannot = there is no God? Birds have wings but I don't, does that mean there is no God too?
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not, and a sense of humor was provided to console him for what he is."
It is technically feasable. There are some creatures that can do this.
The reason God doesn't allow humans to regenerate limbs is because there is no god.
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So you're saying if God existed Humans would have the ability to regenerate limbs?:confused:
Anyway, I think the short and simple answer to why we can't do this is because we are limited in our ability. If we could do anything, as DeepOcean said, Life is a test. If you sailed through it without trials, the test would be pointless.
Its not that God can't regenerate limbs (read in the bible where Jesus with power from Allah healed lepers)
Its that God doesn't regenerate limbs.
The reason: God knows best, Allahu Ahlam
but don't you think what you're doing is just pulling one of a million possible things and manipulating it to your preconceived end that there is no God.
Its like saying: If there was a God wouldn't He just write messages to us in the clouds?
He has given us enough evidence but to the non-believer no evidence is ever enough.
Furthermore if I was to take your line of reasoning, the fact that my skin cells, hair and blood DO regenerate is proof enough for me
Its not that God can't regenerate limbs (read in the bible where Jesus with power from Allah healed lepers)
Its that God doesn't regenerate limbs.
The reason: God knows best, Allahu Ahlam
but don't you think what you're doing is just pulling one of a million possible things and manipulating it to your preconceived end that there is no God.
Its like saying: If there was a God wouldn't He just write messages to us in the clouds?
He has given us enough evidence but to the non-believer no evidence is ever enough.
Furthermore if I was to take your line of reasoning, the fact that my skin cells, hair and blood DO regenerate is proof enough for me
MarshAllah sister that is so true. Even if God didregenerate limbs, non-believers would still find SOMETHING to pick on.
The point is Lizards might beleive in God, so they get their limbs regenerated.
Why dont Duck-Billed Platypusses? Are they Athiest or pagan?
The Miracle of God healing those who are ill dosnt extend to limb regeneration.
Is it beyond his power?
Does he just choose not to?
Or isnt he not aware of us?
Or dosnt he exist.
It's one of those 4.
The bill gates, redfruit-blue fruit isnt an arguement in this.
That God chooses to is a arguement.
The christians say ask and ye will receive. yet you can ask till your a shade of purple and you wont receive certain things. Things that are physically impossible and not naturally occuring. A infection may cure itself. a tumour can be successfully treated. Limbs cant regrow.
Islamically, god chooses not to do this. Why this particulally? He will provide rainfall, Cure a virus, lots of things. Why cant he do something not naturally occuring?
As for Agnostic /atheist sceptacism. If I was to see a documented case of Prayer being followed by limb regeneration, that would be proof of divine intervention for me.
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The Miracle of God healing those who are ill dosnt extend to limb regeneration.
Is it beyond his power?
Does he just choose not to?
Or isnt he not aware of us?
Or dosnt he exist.
It's one of those 4.
Refer to my other post. Life is a test. Depending on how you co n the test of life, you are rewarded/punished. Everything in life is a test, including the loss of limbs.
As for Agnostic /atheist sceptacism. If I was to see a documented case of Prayer being followed by limb regeneration, that would be proof of divine intervention for me.
What about people who are miraculously cured from illnesses? What about cancer? people survive that. There are other miracles, just look around you.
How do you know they are miracles and not just unexplained natural events?
They amount to the same thing. It depends on your perception. My point is, they are not unexplained.Allah provides us with an explanation in the Qur'an. And they are natural...part of Allah's natural order for the world.
They amount to the same thing. It depends on your perception. My point is, they are not unexplained.Allah provides us with an explanation in the Qur'an. And they are natural...part of Allah's natural order for the world.
Just because you have an explination dosn't mean you are right.
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