Your God at walmart next to Bratz dolls--christians how do you feel?

**جوري** · 11-19-2007

Wal-Mart stocks Bratz dolls next to Jesus
Posted Nov 19th 2007 2:05PM by Brian White
Filed under: Products and services, Wal-Mart (WMT), Marketing and advertising

In case you haven't visited a toy aisle at a local Wal-Mart Stores, Inc. (NYSE: WMT) Supercenter this holiday season, don't be alarmed if you hear some religious-speak from some of the dolls and figurines.

Amid the Bratz dolls and Fisher farm animals, you'll find a decent assortment of faith-based toys, some of which proclaim to be "Jesus, the son of God," according to The Chicago Tribune.

Given its Southern roots in Arkansas and its conservative nature, it's in Wal-Mart's blood to be a purveyor of religious toys this time of year. But this is a first -- stocking faith-based toys at Christmastime (or holiday time, if you prefer that).

As a parent, are you for or against these kinds of religious-themed toys? Are they any different than scantily clad Barbies that present an unrealistic view of physical beauty? How about demon-headed boy's toys that look like something from the movie "Hellraiser?" Having a variety of toys that suits all kids, ethnicities and religious beliefs seems appropriate for a retailer that wants to be everything to everyone, all the time. Agree or disagree?
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**Jayda** · 11-26-2007

hola

since you really just want to have another conversation about how warped Christianity is perhaps it's time for you to qualify some of the statements you are regurgitating from muslim 'scholars' like ahmed deedat or zakir naik. for example - maybe muslims could make up their minds about who the evil cabal of sinister people was that 'promoted' jesus to God?

sometimes it's the apostle st. paul, a jewish convert of absolutely no significance to the empire, other times it's a roman emperor, one of the most powerful men in history. i've even heard the assertion it was a secret group of jews trying to discredit jesus.

the only thing consistent about these theories is that they lack consistency... there is no connection by time (300 years from Paul to Constantine), nor by place (726 miles from byzantium to jerusalem), nor by motivation (Paul = agent of evil, Constantine = enterprising pagan). in fact very often they are mutually exclusive, like arguing Paul and then Constantine - it puts the so called 'creation' of Jesus' divinity 300 years apart.

not that most muslims who talk about Paul or Nicea actually know what the Trinity is or how that relates to (and is different from) Jesus' divinity.

i guess the only other thing they have in common is that they lack historical foundation. Constantine was an arian (the ones who lost), not a trinitarian. as was his spiritual advisor eusebius. in the end the alexandrian trinitarians were persecuted by the empire for the next 100 years until the last arian emperor died.

meanwhile, the only actual evidence we have that a saul of tarsus even existed comes from scripture and sacred tradition alone. there are no outside sources, at all. tellingly, the only sources that reference him demonstrate his piety and worthiness to be called an apostle of God, the disciples and other apostles respected him. character assasins rely on their own interpretation of specific selections of scripture then fill in the blanks with active imaginations.

it's difficult to take you seriously when you can't even choose which conspiracy theory is the 'right one,' especially when you insult everyone from our apostles and disciples to our Holy Fathers in the process. not that it matters to you how many of our extremely important religious figures are unjustly defamed and insulted while you grope for an excuse in the night.

and is there a reason we should listen to muslim self appointed scholars on christianity? they don't listen to us when we explain or try to talk to them instead of listening like good children in class. they usually lack any serious academic merit to add weight to their opinions, so why be so pushy with their blasphemous and insulting words?

que Dios te bendiga

**Ghira** · 11-26-2007

Making some money out of expense of confused children trying to understand their role as a vicegerant of God, trying to understand who is their Creator, and the purpose of life. What a shame to have such acts being accepted by Christians when even in their own book it says idol worship is wrong. Then again they make many excuses for what is said in their book and what they should be doing. A doll is something children play with and core religious beliefs, Prophets of God, and God almighty is not something we make jokes about nor play around with. There are plenty of other activities to enjoy and that is not one of them.

**جوري** · 11-26-2007

I beg your pardon? was the above meant for me?

**جوري** · 11-26-2007

I have actually written quite an extensive topic here on LI on where and when christianity deranged into what it is today.. it might do you some good to use search option, and type in asthansaius or arius and see what comes up, rather than telling me whom I am regurgitating or not-- I'll not descend to word play rehashing recycled topics just because you decided to be displeased with the notion that I mock a "jesus doll' at walmart!... I actually went to catholic school for three years of my life and if there was ever an abode of hypocrisy there it was..where half the young women were showing up pregnant at age 14.

Other than that, 'st.Paul's' relationship to Poppea, you know the former broad who whispered in neros ears to burn down Rome, is enough of an incentive to know exactly what sort of man he is not just concilate it with his relationship to Jesus when he was alive.. I didn't need Zakir or deedat to lecture me on that, all I needed was a history book!

So don't assume for me what it is, that I know or don't know. If paul is a holy man to you, more power to you, it means nothing to me. He isn't holy to me, I have no respect for him.. I find it a wonder though, that you give a debauched like paul more dignity than jesus who is hanging in some mart for a dog to chew..

Don't know what you mean by conspiracy theory?.. there is no mention of Jesus in other historical books save the bible... which in an of itself is inconsistent and varies by denomination.. each denomination think the other one is an apostate.. pls tell me where the conspiracy theories are when all one has to do is scrutinize the book against itself to marvel at its errors...

And you are right..I don't understand the trinity..I also don't believe in Greek mythology where God takes a mortal woman and begets Herculius, except in this case the son of God, wasn't God and his mother wasn't the mother of God, and he didn't also approach her in the form of a holy spirit to tell her that he God will be born to her, die and return to be God again and that they are all one in the same..if that makes sense to you..more power to you.. but it doesn't work for me..It has nothing to do with consipracies, it has to do with what it actually is!

In closure, this topic isn't about the trinity, Muslim lack of understanding of the trinity, rather how christians feel about how someone who represents their God being sold in super markets..

the way it is heading, I believe the thread to have reached the end of its value

cheers!