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    I have some questions. I want to convert to Islam, and I have been watching the videos on Salat, but I am concerned about not being able to say the words correctly. What if I can not get the accent correct, or if I can not remember all the words? Would it be ok if I had them written down and read them as I learned them, or is that a wrong thing to do? I am also concerned that I can not get the pronunciation right. Also, is it converting to Islam, or is it converting to the Muslim faith? I just want to make sure I get it all right, and not make any mistakes. Thank you, Sunnie
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    Re: Questions on Converting to Islam

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    I have some questions. I want to convert to Islam, and I have been watching the videos on Salat, but I am concerned about not being able to say the words correctly. What if I can not get the accent correct, or if I can not remember all the words? Would it be ok if I had them written down and read them as I learned them, or is that a wrong thing to do? I am also concerned that I can not get the pronunciation right. Also, is it converting to Islam, or is it converting to the Muslim faith? I just want to make sure I get it all right, and not make any mistakes. Thank you, Sunnie
    Its nice to hear that you want to revert to Islam

    About you question, let take an example , Brother, Let suppose there was a small child that is just learning speaking and of-course he does not pronounce any thing true, her words breaks and so on , although he try , tell me what you fell for that boy? I think it look more attractive to you , you will love him more and you will try to listen those broken words again and again from him

    As now you are trying to learn and try your best so if still you do some pronociation mistakes etc , Inshahallah ALLAH will not only forgive you but also inshahallah Allah might like your word more then a normal native speaker.

    May Allah guide all of us to the true path.

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    Re: Questions on Converting to Islam




    A new Muslim finding it difficult to recite al-Faatihah:


    So the worshipper must recite it properly in Arabic, because we are commanded to read and recite the Qur’aan as it was revealed.


    2 – Whoever is unable to pronounce it properly because of some defect in his tongue or because he is not an Arabic-speaker must learn to correct his pronunciation as much as he can.

    If he cannot, then he is relieved of this obligation, because Allaah does not burden people with more than they are able to bear.
    Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

    “Allaah burdens not a person beyond his scope” [al-Baqarah 2:286]


    3 – If a person is unable to recite al-Faatihah at all or is unable to learn it, or he has just become Muslim and the time for prayer has come and there is not enough time for him to learn it, then he is given a way out in the following hadeeth:

    It was narrated that ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Abi Awfa said: A man came to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and said: “O Messenger of Allaah, teach me something of the Qur’aan that will suffice me, for I cannot read.” He said, “Say: Subhaan-Allaah wa’l-hamdu Lillaah wa laa ilaaha ill-Allaah wa Allaahu akbar wa laa hawla wa la quwwata illa Billaah (Glory be to Allaah, praise be to Allaah, there is no god except Allaah and Allaah is Most great, there is no god except Allaah and there is no power and no strength except with Allaah).” The man made a grabbing gesture with his hand (indicating that he had learned a lot) and said, “This is for my Lord, what is there for me?” He said, “Say: Allaahumma ighfir li warhamni wahdini warzuqni wa ‘aafini (O Allaah, forgive me, have mercy on me, guide me, and grant me provision and good health).” He made another grabbing gesture with his other hand and stood up.

    (Narrated by al-Nasaa’i, 924; Abu Dawood, 832. Its isnaad was classed as jayyid by al-Mundhiri in al-Targheeb wa’l-Tarheeb, 2/430. al-Haafiz Ibn Hajar indicated that it is hasan in al-Talkhees al-Habeer, 1/236)

    Ibn Qudaamah (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

    If a person does not know any Qur’aan, and he cannot learn it before the time for prayer is over, then he must say Subhaan-Allaah wa’l-hamdu Lillaah wa laa ilaaha ill-Allaah wa Allaahu akbar wa laa hawla wa la quwwata illa Billaah (Glory be to Allaah, praise be to Allaah, there is no god except Allaah, Allaah is Most great and there is no power and no strength except with Allaah), because Abu Dawood narrated that a man came to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and said, “I am not able to learn anything of the Qur’aan, so teach me something that will suffice me.” He said, “Say, Subhaan-Allaah wa’l-hamdu Lillaah wa laa ilaaha ill-Allaah wa Allaahu akbar wa laa hawla wa la quwwata illa Billaah.” The man said, “This is for my Lord, what is there for me?” He said, “Say: Allaahumma ighfir li warhamni warzuqni wahdini wa ‘aafini (O Allaah, forgive me, have mercy on me, grant me provision, guide me, and give me good health).” But he does not have to do more than say the first five phrases, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) only said that, and he only told him more when he asked for more.
    (end of Ibn Qudaamah’s words)

    But if a person is able to recite part of surah al-Faatihah only, he should recite that which he is able to recite.
    And he has to repeat what he can recite well (i.e., so that the total number of what he recites will be seven verses
    , equivalent to the number of verses in al-Faatihah).


    Ibn Qudaamah said:

    It may be sufficient for him to say alhamdu-Lillaah (praise be to Allaah), laa ilaaha ill-Allaah (there is no god but Allaah) and Allaahu akbar (Allaah is most great), because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whatever you know of Qur’aan, recite it, otherwise praise Allaah, proclaim His Oneness and magnify Him.” (Narrated by Abu Dawood)
    (al-Mughni, 1/289, 290)

    What you have read about the prayer being invalid if the worshipper mispronounces a single letter of al-Faatihah cannot be taken as general in meaning. Not every mistake in al-Faatihah invalidates the prayer; rather it cannot be invalidated unless something is omitted from al-Faatihah, or the pronunciation is changed in a way that distorts the meaning. Moreover, this ruling on the prayer becoming invalid applies to those who are able to recite al-Faatihah correctly or who are able to learn it but do not.

    As for those who are unable to do so, they should recite it as best as they can, and that does not affect them, because Allaah does not burden a soul beyond its scope. One of the basic principles established by the scholars is that nothing is obligatory when a person is unable to do it. See al-Mughni, 2/154.
    In this case a person should recite al-Faatihah as best as he is able, and then glorify Allaah, praise Him, magnify Him and proclaim His Oneness (by saying Subhaan-Allaah wa’l-hamdu Lillaah wa Allaahu akbar wa laa ilaaha ill-Allaah), so that this will make up for whatever he has missed out of al-Faatihah.
    See al-Majmoo’, 3/375.



    Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allaah have mercy on him) was asked:

    Is the prayer of one who mispronounces al-Faatihah valid or not?

    He replied:

    If a person mispronounces al-Faatihah in a way that does not distort the meaning, his prayer is valid, whether he is leading others in prayer or is praying alone.
    But with regard to the kind of mispronunciation that distorts the meaning, if the person knows the meaning, such as if he says ‘Siraat allaadheena an’amtu ‘alayhim [meaning “The way of those on whom I have bestowed my grace”, instead of the correct version an’amta (The way of those on whom You have bestowed Your Grace)], and he knows that this verbal form is wrong, then the prayer is not valid. But if he does not know that he is distorting the meaning, and he thinks that this form is second person singular rather than first person, then there is a difference of scholarly opinion on this point. And Allaah knows best.
    Majmoo’ al-Fataawam 22/443


    He was also asked about when a person ends a word with –i that should end in –a when praying (or renders it genitive when it should be accusative).
    He replied:

    If he is aware of what he is doing and he does it deliberately, then his prayer is invalid, because he is playing about in his prayer. But if he is unaware of that, then his prayer is not invalid, according to one of the two scholarly views.
    Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 22/444


    So you must try hard and keep practising it. You can do this by reciting it to another Muslim sister who can recite it well, and by listening to soorahs recited by skilled reciters on tapes or broadcasts.
    There is no need to feel nervous and anxious, because Allaah knows what is in people’s hearts, and He knows who is trying hard and making the effort, and who is lazy and heedless.

    The difficulty that you find in reciting Qur’aan will increase your hasanaat (good deeds) and rewards. It was narrated that ‘Aaishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The one who is skilled in reciting Qur’aan will be with the noble and obedient scribes (i.e., the angels?) and the one who reads the Qur’aan and struggles with it because it is difficult for him will have two rewards.”
    (Narrated by Muslim, 798)


    Al-Nawawi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

    The one who struggles with it is the one who is hesitant in his recitation because he is not able to memorize it well. He will have two rewards: the reward for reciting it and the reward for his efforts in reciting it.

    There is no need to repeat verses more than once, because this is not what the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did or taught. Rather that opens the door to waswaas (whispers from the Shaytaan), detracts from the prayer, makes you lose your focus, distracts you from pondering the meaning of the verses and makes the Shaytaan happy, because from that he can find a way to make you suffer so that you will ultimately give up praying. But Allaah is Most Gracious and Most Merciful, and He is more merciful towards us than we are to ourselves, and He does not burden us with more than we can bear .

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    Re: Questions on Converting to Islam

    Salam Sunnie,

    I can train you to pronounce it well if you like and also Al Fateha for Salah. I am exchange language with Native american speakers and their Arabic pronouncing are very good. Just give me your msn email or skype.

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    That would be a great help Malak. I live in Missouri and have been trying to find other people of Muslim Faith to be able to chat with, but with no luck. I am going to make myself an msn account, and as soon as I become a full member, I will send it to you in a private message. Thank you for your response. Hope to hear from you, Sunnie
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    Re: Questions on Converting to Islam

    SubhanAllah. Try to imagine yourself like a child trying to obey your parents. When they see you struggle to do what they want, they love you even more than if you just go and do it. You are rewarded for what you recite well and you are rewarded again for your struggle.

    Allah will not keep from you any of the knowledge you seek to improve your religion and relationship with Him. So don't hesitate to become Muslim because you can't speak Arabic. Make your intentions and say your prayers silently in English if you find it more comfortable. The keys are sincerity and understanding, not perfect pronunciation. If you think of prayer like washing a car, then these things are the washing and drying of the car. The pronunciation is the waxing and detailing.

    If you need anything at all, we are all here for you.
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    Re: Questions on Converting to Islam

    it is said that those who stutter (struggle to recite) they get more reward....believe it or not, but thats only the case if your learning tho.

    so my great sister, do not worry...islam was made easy for you and for all of us, i hope to hear from you in future inshallah.
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