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    Being a game developer?? halal? (OP)




    Would it be halal for me to be a game developer? I like programming, and like gaming. And programming games sounds interesting.

    Is it permissible? Especially when modelling worlds, or characters?? Will it be seen as imitating the creation of Allah?

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    Re: Being a game developer?? halal?

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    I already gave him a few suggestions in this thread, post numbers 2 and 4, go read that if you are interested.

    To be honest, the brother needs to learn coding and other things first like 3D mapping and textures and all sorts of other stuff - and then specialise in one area of game development. For example, 3D modelling, texture mapping, engine optimisation, coding, etc etc etc - no one can make a game of his vision on their own because it would take waaaaaay tooooo long - unless he is dreaming of android/ios games, which are way more limited in scope and so, no dev team necessary.

    My job here is done. Nothing further to add. Seems bro Serenity has his work cut out for himself.

    I wish him well,

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    Re: Being a game developer?? halal?

    Salam un alikum. To all Muslim brothers and sisters ...Brother I just saw that you wanted to be a game developer....and love programming....I would love to get some information about programming I want to be a software developer...so If u have got good online resources and other material which can help me learn programming...it would be a great pleasure ...Being a game developer?? halal?
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    Re: Being a game developer?? halal?

    And btw ....as long as you intend to do good with it...and do not publish something against Islam ....I think it is ok ....Being a game developer?? halal? to do...just intend to do good Being a game developer?? halal?...with it and did not harm anyone or anything with it....

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    Re: Being a game developer?? halal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mrciful_Servant View Post
    Salam un alikum. To all Muslim brothers and sisters ...Brother I just saw that you wanted to be a game developer....and love programming....I would love to get some information about programming I want to be a software developer...so If u have got good online resources and other material which can help me learn programming...it would be a great pleasure ...Being a game developer?? halal?
    Wa alaikum salam,

    I started from Codeacademy (https://www.codecademy.com/learn) basic Java scripts, etc. Idk much about Khan Academy, but it can also be good, In shaa' Allah.

    I don't know where to start. C++ or c+ or Javascript, etc.
    Being a game developer?? halal?

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    Re: Being a game developer?? halal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scimitar View Post
    I already gave him a few suggestions in this thread, post numbers 2 and 4, go read that if you are interested.

    To be honest, the brother needs to learn coding and other things first like 3D mapping and textures and all sorts of other stuff - and then specialise in one area of game development. For example, 3D modelling, texture mapping, engine optimisation, coding, etc etc etc - no one can make a game of his vision on their own because it would take waaaaaay tooooo long - unless he is dreaming of android/ios games, which are way more limited in scope and so, no dev team necessary.

    My job here is done. Nothing further to add. Seems bro Serenity has his work cut out for himself.

    I wish him well,

    Scimi
    Yup, you are right!

    I will try everything out - 3D modelling, to coding, etc. And see what fancies me most. And then specialise in that, In shaa' Allah.

    unreal Engine 4.0 seems to be free. Will that be good for starters?
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    Re: Being a game developer?? halal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Serinity View Post
    Yup, you are right!

    I will try everything out - 3D modelling, to coding, etc. And see what fancies me most. And then specialise in that, In shaa' Allah.
    In sha Allah, may Allah develop you well, Ameen.

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    unreal Engine 4.0 seems to be free. Will that be good for starters?
    For open world, yes. It's very powerful. I'd get onto a game dev forum and make a thread about my ideas (if I were you) and then ask interested members to post their skill set and availability - if you can start a sub forum inside the main one where Muslim coders can help to develop some games which also educate on matters of Islam, maybe history etc then why not?

    having said this, you should know that this is not the direction games are going, although some would argue Assassin Creed is the answer, I would return with "go learn your history" becuase games like Assassins Creed make a mockery out of Muslims and have no educational value whatsoever.

    I wouldn't mind playing a game where in an open world setting, somewhere in the dark ages of Europe to Golden Age of Islam, during a period of PEACE where there is no war or fighting, men are honoured for helping and building and learning new things - just like they were during the golden age of Islam - further, the end of the story mode would have a deep lesson attached - namely that, now the gamer has managed to do good deeds, learn new knowledges and benefit the people, help them in a variety of situations, and for building beneficial structures - why are they still playing? The game should encourage the gamer to go out into the real world and now do the very same deeds of helping people who need help, learning beneficial knowledge, building things which benefit, etc.

    You game for this? or what?

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    Re: Being a game developer?? halal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scimitar View Post
    In sha Allah, may Allah develop you well, Ameen.



    For open world, yes. It's very powerful. I'd get onto a game dev forum and make a thread about my ideas (if I were you) and then ask interested members to post their skill set and availability - if you can start a sub forum inside the main one where Muslim coders can help to develop some games which also educate on matters of Islam, maybe history etc then why not?

    having said this, you should know that this is not the direction games are going, although some would argue Assassin Creed is the answer, I would return with "go learn your history" becuase games like Assassins Creed make a mockery out of Muslims and have no educational value whatsoever.

    I wouldn't mind playing a game where in an open world setting, somewhere in the dark ages of Europe to Golden Age of Islam, during a period of PEACE where there is no war or fighting, men are honoured for helping and building and learning new things - just like they were during the golden age of Islam - further, the end of the story mode would have a deep lesson attached - namely that, now the gamer has managed to do good deeds, learn new knowledges and benefit the people, help them in a variety of situations, and for building beneficial structures - why are they still playing? The game should encourage the gamer to go out into the real world and now do the very same deeds of helping people who need help, learning beneficial knowledge, building things which benefit, etc.

    You game for this? or what?

    Scimi
    Well, I like violence and blood in games lol. Warfare, etc. you know battlefield, etc. And stuff, and fighting with swords lol.

    So the game should, and will, have Islam at its centre.

    What can I do with peaceful times? how can I fill in the gaps? Lol. I like conflict in games. So, what about a game, where one is taught how to be a Muslim in certain scenarios? How to run a state?

    Like you control this main character who starts off as Muslim, who goes through The dark ages to the golden age of Islam. his job is to call people to Islam. he will be presented with dilemmas, conflicts, and Peaceful times.
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    Re: Being a game developer?? halal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Serinity View Post
    Well, I like violence and blood in games lol. Warfare, etc. you know battlefield, etc. And stuff, and fighting with swords lol.
    That's where I draw a line.

    Quote Originally Posted by Serinity View Post
    So the game should, and will, have Islam at its centre.
    No blood, gore, violence. OK?

    Quote Originally Posted by Serinity View Post
    What can I do with peaceful times? how can I fill in the gaps? Lol. I like conflict in games. So, what about a game, where one is taught how to be a Muslim in certain scenarios? How to run a state?
    You really have to ask? bro, do this, check out the types of open world games that are not violent, like ones where you build a city and facilitate trade and industry, and modify those gaming ideas with an islamic twist, such as Masjids where players can go and learn to compete in QA on Islam. Just one idea I quickly came up with - give your idea some love, some time, and some Islamic context, and you may be pleasnatly surprised with what fruits from that experience in sha Allah.

    Quote Originally Posted by Serinity View Post
    Like you control this main character who starts off as Muslim, who goes through The dark ages to the golden age of Islam. his job is to call people to Islam. he will be presented with dilemmas, conflicts, and Peaceful times.
    That could work, but no swords and blood, please do something NEW.

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    Re: Being a game developer?? halal?

    hi, i like the idea of this game . How far with that halal game, i am a Muslim and a hoddy game developer. I have experience in game development (unity engine). I am interested in developing halal games.


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