The reason why I asked this question is... so many teenagers ang youngsters in Malaysia has embrace Christianity without their parents knowledge. The hottest issue is the case of Azlina Jailani who changed her name to Lina Joy. She wants to become a Christian to marry a Christian Hindu.
Why I called him Christian Hindu is that, so many Hindu became Christian because they don't want to be called a pariah since they were from lower cast even thou they are university graduate. So I randomly calls an Indian a Christian Hindu. Not because they see Christianity as a good religion but just to feel good about themselves
Back to our topic. She has been raised in Muslim culture, know to read Quran. Able to read Quran very well, but why she choose to become a Christian just to get married. Same case with the famous Aishah Bukhory whom her father was an imam. The father was the imam for Tarawikh in a nearby masjeed when her boyfriend came, took her to Australia so that they can get married.
i am so afraid...that i read albaqarah ayah 128...all the time...
i heard so many stories that...eventhough you've bring up your children in islamic way as you can...the children still become disobedient...or the worst thing would be...kufar...
even some of the prophet's children...become disbeliever...
All i can say is...make alot of dua and salah...and the final decision is made only by Allah s.w.t. Tawakalalallah...
I think this happens a lot because of what parents allow their kids to watch on TV etc. Apparently I heard so many people in Indonesia are leaving Islam each year because they watch Bollywood movies. And these movies show how 'romantic' Indian men are ( !!!) and so they go to india and marry a hindu person and leave Islam for thsi reason. Coz apparently indian men are more romantic than those that are not. But again, its all brainwashing....these movies can be dangerous.
Peace
“Verily passion turns kings into slaves, and patience turns slaves into kings…Do you not see the story of Yusuf and Zulaykha?”
I think these are issues not only in Muslim families, but in families of other faiths too.
Outside influences are strong in many cultures, especially in secular societies.
One solution would be to isolate your children from their friends and peers, and the rest of society. I am not sure how effective that is though. :X
It is better to let your children grow strong enough in their faith, so they can stand up against temptations around them.
Also, children reach an age, when they can and should make their own decisions even if they go against the views of their parents.
There comes the time when you have to trust them into God's hands and hope that their upbringing was sound enough. After all, you cannot force them! There is no obligation to be a believer!
Remember that teenagers often stray from the right path ... and many return when they realise the truth for themselves!
peace.
Peace glo
Here I stand.
I can do no other.
May God help me.
Amen.
Come, let us worship and bow down •
and kneel before the Lord our Maker
[Psalm 95]
^beating just drives them away and makes them want to get back at you and rebel more. Patience and wisdom is very effective. Also taking them to places where there are strong people of faith and inspirational people. If they constantly look upto moviestars - theyll want to be quite shallow like them and copy them. However, if you introduce them and show them people in the community who are inspriational, young, happy, motivated and doing things for Allah, like charity workers and people who give dawah, they'll aspire to be like them inshallah. Taking them to different countires to see different types of muslims also helps.
Peace
“Verily passion turns kings into slaves, and patience turns slaves into kings…Do you not see the story of Yusuf and Zulaykha?”
I hate it when kids do this. They need to get a good beating, regardless if they were initially Muslim or Christian.
HAHA i like that idea although I dont plan on beating my kids when i eventualli have some.
Physical punishment is something i think shouldnt be inflicted on kids as it isnt that effective. Im sure there are other ways to guide them.
I've read from the grandson of Ghandi about punishment. I can't remember the word he use, unviolent pinishment or what? I read in Readers Digest some times ago.
He cheated his father, in return his father punish him by not getting into his car but chose to walk for I think about 5km to their home. The lad was very sad and decided not to do anything that will hurt his parent again.
But how to apply it in our case? In educating our children to love our deen
BTW, a famous motivator in Malaysia, Dr Fadzillah Kamsah said, the best way to educate children are
When they are less than 7, educate them with love
When they are between 7-13, educate them with punishment
When they are 14-21, involve them in all of our activities such as washing car together, bring them to market
When they are >21, make them your best friend.
^What if beating wasnt the way to save them from ignorance. Beating would make them bitter and hurt. They wouldnt listen to anything you told them after a beating.
The Prophet (saw) never beat anyone the way you are suggesting. Not even an animal, for fear that the animal would hold him to account on the DOJ. Also because animals are also deserving of good treatment.
“Verily passion turns kings into slaves, and patience turns slaves into kings…Do you not see the story of Yusuf and Zulaykha?”
Islam has set rules for beating. Hv to check with muallim. If I'm not mistaken
U can't beat at certain part of body
There are kind of material allowed for beating, not everything can be use
the hardness of beating has to be controlled
Don't beat when you are extremely angry
avoid causing permanent disablement
Need to refer to my mualllim. Meanwhile, if anybody knows, please share your knowledge
Yes, I think hitting the head is disallowed. That's why boxing is a bit...iffy. Its a cool sport but maybe if in muslim boxing groups....they could refrain from hitting the head.
“Verily passion turns kings into slaves, and patience turns slaves into kings…Do you not see the story of Yusuf and Zulaykha?”
I hate it when kids do this. They need to get a good beating, regardless if they were initially Muslim or Christian.
*sigh*...brother i find it hard to believe that u have the name "QuranStudy" but u behave the opposite! Can i ask why ur so negative? Islam teaches u to be polite and humble =\*sigh*...I would think ud know that beating them will "infact" drive them away. You cannot force it on them and expect them to believe..*sigh*... i dunno i thinkso.
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Yea ur not allowed to hit some1 in the face.
Last edited by Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн; 08-23-2006 at 01:57 AM.
*Without Allah, without Islam, life would be meaningless. If I've ever learned patience, it's because of this. Alhamdulillah...*
I dont see how beating children will save them from ignorance.. Beating them may cause them to resent you, or worse resent the deen.
like a lot of people have said. there are a lot of other ways to show your displeasure. Hitting kids is not the answer
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