Do you want the Death penalty for Drunk Drivers?

[جوري]

Who have caused the demise of others?

In a short span of time, I have lost colleagues, known of distant friends and just yesterday a mother of two passed away due to the sheer negligence of these narcissistic criminals who apparently think the world ought to revolve around their desires and needs-- now I haven't done any formal studies on how many die daily to drunk drivers, but was thinking of starting a large petition and sending it to my congresswo/man with enough signatures on it, to make this punishable to the highest degree... I really don't see why they can take a life or two in the blink of an eye and then end up in prison or with a mere slap on the wrist from tax payers money...

I think this is a very serious crime, and it makes me cringe, when I see two people who have struggled to make it as fine citizens and pillars of their community to be snuffed out, or a woman shipping her husband's body on her honey moon while she is three weeks pregnant, or a mother with two young children slaughtered, or a young lady going out to celebrate Eid with friends extinguished, a flower not yet in full bloom.

It isn't fair, but what isn't even more fair is letting these criminals amongst us.. if anyone deserves death it is them...

I don't and wouldn't get any joy whatsoever seeing anyone put to death, but I really want justice for people, I'd like it to be swift without alot of emotion in the same fashion they take the lives of others swiftly without alot of emotions..

so pls vote so I can see if this is worth taking it all the way where it will get more attention..

Jazkoum Allah khyran

[Khayal]

I voted "NO".
No, I don't think so, bcz If I am in pain, (whatever the reason is) I don't want to see others to be in pain, even if they are your worst enemy, you shouldn't take revenge of a person's death by killing the person who is responsible. Allaah [SWT] wrote our fate, so the person's death was written, and carried out by this mean. I might be wrong, but I'm not a person who takes revenge.

[Yanal]

No just a fine and a few days in prison because as sister Khayal said,they are drunk and not fully in their senses so they don't deserve much like death. Instead of death being a punishment for drunk driers why not ban alcholol?

[جوري]

I voted "NO".
No, I don't think so, bcz If I am in pain, (whatever the reason is) I don't want to see others to be in pain, even if they are your worst enemy, you shouldn't take revenge of a person's death by killing the person who is responsible. Allaah [SWT] wrote our fate, so the person's death was written, and carried out by this mean. I might be wrong, but I'm not a person who takes revenge.

my dearest of all sisters:

Death penalty is never about 'revenge' it is about Justice!..
Every society has its criminals. even the human body, when you have an infection, most people don't usually think to themselves, I want an antibiotic or an antiviral or anti-fungal, or anti-neoplastic that only sends this disease for rehabilitation for a few days, you usually want a disease out of your system for good.. If you don't overcome it, it will overcome you..

I am not trying t impose my opinion on you, but I think the leniency of society is what sends many criminals to this path again and again, and it is really unfortunate because in such a brief period of time we have lost single productive units of society yet sent out on the streets again, again folks that are beyond rehabilitation if anything that bleed society out of money and of upstanding members...

I am a little disappointed but I think it is because this so far has been theoretical to many people and not a cold hard reality.

[Eric H]

Greetings and peace be with you Gossamer skye;

My neighbour's son was killed in a stupid and reckless driving prank, the culprit did not even go to prison. He was just fined and banned from driving for a couple of years.

After the sentence was passed my neighbour started to drink heavily and wanted to beat this guy senseless, because justice had not been given to him.

I cannot comprehend fully how my neighbour felt at the death of his son, but I talked to him about forgiveness. Shortly after my neighbour sold his house and moved a couple of hundred miles away. He feared that at some point in the future he might have a moment of weakness and take revenge.

In similar circumstances I would pray that I would also have the strength to forgive.

In the spirit of praying to a loving and merciful God

Eric

[*charisma*]

Assalamu Alaikum

I agree, there should be higher punishments for those who choose to drink and drive.

In my state, there's numbers to call that provide a FREE designated driver for drunk people. If they're too drunk to drive, they could also call a taxi cab. There's no reason to drive intoxicated, especially when there are other alternatives. It's ridiculous.

fi aman allah
w'salaam

[Khayal]

my dearest of all sisters:

Death penalty is never about 'revenge' it is about Justice!..
Every society has its criminals. even the human body, when you have an infection, most people don't usually think to themselves, I want an antibiotic or an antiviral or anti-fungal, or anti-neoplastic that only sends this disease for rehabilitation for a few days, you usually want a disease out of your system for good.. If you don't overcome it, it will overcome you..

I am not trying t impose my opinion on you, but I think the leniency of society is what sends many criminals to this path again and again, and it is really unfortunate because in such a brief period of time we have lost single productive units of society yet sent out on the streets again, again folks that are beyond rehabilitation if anything that bleed society out of money and of upstanding members...

I am a little disappointed but I think it is because this so far has been theoretical to many people and not a cold hard reality.

My beloved Sister

As I said, maybe I am wrong, thats what my nature is, and bcz of this most of the time people take advantage of me.

[alcurad]

if it was done unintentionally but the act that caused it was not supposed to be done in the first place, it shouldn't be death rather imprisonment for life maybe, a heavy fine, but I wouldn't go to the death penalty, still it might some merit, since how do we know the person was indeed that drunk in the first place.

[جوري]

since how do we know the person was indeed that drunk in the first place.

Blood alcohol level that is how we know...
They won't ban alcohol because people really need it in their system and are entitled to drink.. well others are entitled to their lifetime..
I don't see a point whatsoever in having to sponsor three meals for an alcoholic and a roof over his head in prison while their victims are cold six feet under with whatever else they have left behind of family and children!~

I can see from the response here though this probably won't be implemented in my lifetime.. and it is a sad shame that folks seem to feel more for the perpetrators than the victims. IT IS A CHOICE TO DRIVE DRUNK!

[جوري]

My beloved Sister

As I said, maybe I am wrong, thats what my nature is, and bcz of this most of the time people take advantage of me.

Jazaki Allah khyran for your response sis.. you are a lovely person!

[kwolney01]

No, but the punishment needs to be a lot more harsh. I would make sure that person would never be able to drive again. I think the government should take their driving privileges away FOREVER! I think America is too easy on drunk drivers, I've heard of other countries that when this happens the person can never drive again.

I agree with you sister, but I don't know if that would be the best way to fix things. These people need help with their addiction. No, it's not a choice to drink and drive but making them go to rehab and change their life is a lot better. I think the driver would be hunted forever with the fact they hit and killed someone because they were drinking and driving. And this, inshAllah would make them change their life.

[_PakistaN_]

I think one Month in jail should be enough.

[nazish]

The spirit and essence of the Islamic Law in its severe penalty is to save lives, stop corruption, disallow mischief, serve justice, build a safer society

[alcurad]

try looking at it this way:killing them will not be accepted, since many people here want to get drunk anyway, not to mention it is not proportionate, killing someone unintentionally is not punishable by death, a doctor who kills patient by misanalysis is not killed.
now the drunk driver is not like that since he was already breaking the law, but then he didn't do it while in a full state of awareness, so I'd think the harshest people could go to is maybe banning from driving, maybe very long imprisonment. the situation right now is not ideal of course, but as long as drinking is allowed such things will happen.

[S_87]

I think one Month in jail should be enough.

one month in jail for killing someone

if a person is too drunk- they dont drive. if they have killed someone then they should definitely be dealt with harshly.

Alhumdulillah for Islam

[Karina]

I think one Month in jail should be enough.

I voted undecided, as I too feel very strongly indeed about people who take the decision to drive a vehicle under the influence of alcohol - ANY amount - they do not have to be "drunk" to have their reaction time slowed.

In England the penalties are laughable too. And I resent the fact that we have not yet set a complete ban on alchohol before driving a vehicle. We are still legally able to have one alcoholic drink before driving. :mad: I definitely feel that the punishment should be much harsher, perhaps not death, but we are far too soft on drink-drivers.

It also makes my blood boil to hear people worry more about getting CAUGHT, than the fact they will be more likely to knock down a small child because they fancied a beer before they started their journey. Getting caught should not be their primary concern!

[SouljahOfAllah]

Yep, they shoultn be drink diving anywho.

[جوري]

try looking at it this way:killing them will not be accepted, since many people here want to get drunk anyway, not to mention it is not proportionate, killing someone unintentionally is not punishable by death, a doctor who kills patient by misanalysis is not killed.
now the drunk driver is not like that since he was already breaking the law, but then he didn't do it while in a full state of awareness, so I'd think the harshest people could go to is maybe banning from driving, maybe very long imprisonment. the situation right now is not ideal of course, but as long as drinking is allowed such things will happen.

I can't follow this analogy for several reasons:

1- The number one rule as a physician is 'First do no harm' --
2-You never as a physician reach a decision on diagnosis by yourself.. there is an entire team of pathologists, radiologists, residents and interns, other specialists all working together, in critical cases you do your best.. say someone comes in with what appears to all as a heart attack but in fact suffering an aortic dissection and dies as a result, it really isn't your fault as a physician, I understand that there are distinguishing features and you must do your best but trust me you are not always given the margin of times in which to use all the sophisticated equipment as your disposal.. you make quick split second decisions based on amongst other things, what is most likely the presentation.. and even with, you can have a revocation of your license, you obviously have to answer to an entire staff on an M&M (morbidity and mortality) and your insurance sky rockets if you in fact survive the previous as well eager families who desire to sue you!
3- The patient is already consenting to be under your care unless completely unconscious in which you assume consent.. but there is a medical ethics to this.. are you telling me that a drunk driver takes consent from the folks he is about to snuff out?
4- The patient when presenting is already in bad shape.. can we compare happy people minding their own business only to lose it all to a drunkard's negligence to someone who presents to the ER asking for your help?


Is a drunk driver 'unaware' of what he/she is doing.. as I stated prior, it is a decision to drink and it is a decision to drive drunk...

To the fellow who said one month.. Sob7an Allah.. perhaps putting a face to the victims might make this more real for you?



Griffin family of Parkville, MD, five members of which were killed by a drunk driver in a horrific accident on I-280 in Toledo Sunday night.


amongst many many many others.
I have already lost two friends, and on my flight to the middle east met a Saudi woman supposedly on her honey moon and three weeks pregnant shipping her husband's body, because he was murdered by a drunk driver...

If you think they should get one month, or they are unaware of what they are doing, then I pray to Allah swt that you not lose people in such a senseless manner!

[aamirsaab]

Only if alcohol itself is banned, then I would support death penalty for drunk drivers. Simply because I think prevention is better overall.

Alcohol is the real killer - get rid of it and there won't be a problem of drunk drivers (also would minimise other drunk related crimes too)

[Ar-RaYYan]

I am for death penalty for certain crimes but when it comes to drunk drivers maybe not. Before deciding whether the person should get a death penalty its best to look at the intention. For example a murder who intentionally kills a person should receive a death penalty. A drunk driver may have chosen to drive while they were drunk but he/she's intention was not to kill someone. I think definetly they should receive a harsher punishment maybe imprisonment for life and have their driving lesson taking away and heavy fine. Also they do have to live with the fact that they have killed someone with the rest of their life that is a punishment in itself.