if Allah the all seein all hearin...

ok ill try and explain this is a simple way, hope this helps.

Truemuslim, i know youre going to do something, you havent done it yet..but i know you are going to murder someone. So i put you into jail and give you the death penatly. But you protest, you havent actually done the crime. I knew you were going to do it, but you didnt! See my problem?

Now Allah Subhana Wa Ta'ala knows what we are going to do. But He, out of His infinite wisdom gave us the free will to live on earth. The shaytaan does not force us to disobey Allah. Its like a person selling you drugs, they gave u the drugs, but you took it. Are you innocent? Can you say the blame is all on the drug pusher? No, you took the drugs willingly. You wanted it. He introduced you to it. But you made the choices.

Now Allah knows what we will do- look around you now. How many people do you see disobeying and disbelieving in Allah? However, before coming onto earth each and every one of us testified in the Lordship of Allah.
the Quran states:

And (remember) when your Lord brought forth from the Children of Adam, from their loins, their seed (or from Adams loin his offspring) and made them testify as to themselves (saying): "Am I not your Lord?" They said: "yes! We testify," lest you should say on the day of Resurrection: "Verily, we have been unaware of this."
7:172

So what you are saying already happened, we testified, no we are being tested for the truness of our words. In a worldly example- say youre a high school teacher. You have two students. One quite bright, a science nerd. Another, not as clever- most likely to flop science. Can you fail this not so clever student before hes taken the test since you know he wont pass? would he not argue, but you havent given me the chance, i might have passed. You know theres no way he can pass, but you give him the chance to show himself. That way, you cant be accused of being unfair right? Because he has this own evidence against him, he tried and he flopped. You knew it, but till he himself did the test and showed himself- he didnt realise.

Now think truemuslim, when a person wants to do something haraam, is it because the shaytaan forced them, or they wanted to? Have we not all been given free will? Does that mean if we do good deeds we shouldnt be rewarded paradise because Allah wants us to obey Him? Does Allah force us to do good deeds? No, sister we have been given our own minds to know whats right and wrong, good and bad.
If Allah wished, He could have put us all into either heaven or hell, we hadnt commited no actions but Allah knew our destinies. Would that be fair? would that make sense? Would we not all argue, that no! we will obey! put us all into heaven!

As ive said before, we have free will. Our destinies are written, but we arent robots.

and the reason Allah created us was to worship Him.


and I (Allah) created not the jinns and humans except they should worship me (Alone).
51:56

Em, so allah dont control nobody?
wow so 99 names, can control natural disasters, can control the earth to blow up whenever he feels like it, can control when judgement day come, but cant control what we do???? Cmon !

but what i meant is why we gotta go thru this? Its liek when u see a movie, and you seein it again to see ONE certain thing that happened in it, why would you rewatch the entire movie just for one thing, when you KNOW whats gonna happen? Like say allah right now couldve made us fastfoward life for say ten years, and he made it seem as if we had a past, but we didnt get to see that past, but it seems like it did, we would have no idea what just happened, so why cant he just fastfoward it to when we come back to him?? Just end all this since it all written, all ready, all judged, everything is set so why rewatch it? See for a MOVIE its for entertainment, but its only with COOL movies like hancock, but life, it aint no entertainment, and im pretty sure watching ur slaves in jannah is much more entertaining.

dont ya think????


Its ok, if you wanna stop right here and leave, go ahead, cause i am pretty pretty sure this is gonna be endless.

another thing... Why does allah want us to worship him? What is the purpose? I know the usual replies are "Its not that he created us to worship him, its that he deserves to be worshipped" Ok i know that, but if he deserves to be worshipped then why would he create us to worship him? Does that make sense? Like em...wouldn't that mean he really did create us to worship him? So we are in this world to worship him. I get that. But WHY? Don't say because he is worthy enough for it or whatever. That answer gets old when u think alot. But WHY would allah create us to worship him ?

format_quote Originally Posted by truemuslim

Em, so allah dont control nobody?
wow so 99 names, can control natural disasters, can control the earth to blow up whenever he feels like it, can control when judgement day come, but cant control what we do???? Cmon !

but what i meant is why we gotta go thru this? Its liek when u see a movie, and you seein it again to see ONE certain thing that happened in it, why would you rewatch the entire movie just for one thing, when you KNOW whats gonna happen? Like say allah right now couldve made us fastfoward life for say ten years, and he made it seem as if we had a past, but we didnt get to see that past, but it seems like it did, we would have no idea what just happened, so why cant he just fastfoward it to when we come back to him?? Just end all this since it all written, all ready, all judged, everything is set so why rewatch it? See for a MOVIE its for entertainment, but its only with COOL movies like hancock, but life, it aint no entertainment, and im pretty sure watching ur slaves in jannah is much more entertaining.

dont ya think????


Its ok, if you wanna stop right here and leave, go ahead, cause i am pretty pretty sure this is gonna be endless.

Right, it seems to me you're asking why are we here.

Aren't you happy that theirs a mighty reward up for grabs; Jannah?

About Allah (swt) controlling us, he gave us conscience, which allows us to make our own decisions and actions which reflects upon who we really are. Although we can make any decision at any time, Allah (swt) knows what we will do as he created us. For example, you have conscience right now, you could jump infront of a car and kill yourself, but will you? Allah knows.


Hmm... Maybe you will understand better if someone explains to you in person. Why don't you ask your parents?

format_quote Originally Posted by truemuslim

another thing... Why does allah want us to worship him? What is the purpose? I know the usual replies are "Its not that he created us to worship him, its that he deserves to be worshipped" Ok i know that, but if he deserves to be worshipped then why would he create us to worship him? Does that make sense? Like em...wouldn't that mean he really did create us to worship him? So we are in this world to worship him. I get that. But WHY? Don't say because he is worthy enough for it or whatever. That answer gets old when u think alot. But WHY would allah create us to worship him ?

Because he told us to. And if we do all he has commanded us to, then Jannah insha'Allah.

Right, it seems to me you're asking why are we here.

Aren't you happy that theirs a mighty reward up for grabs; Jannah?

Thats the thing...what if there isn't no jannah? And what if this is all a lie? What if we were going the wrong way all along? What if ther is another religion thats right? What if islam was changed too? What happens in the end if we find out we're wrong... sooorrry!

And also, wouldn't it be better to see your religon all clear instead of blind and doubt?

About Allah (swt) controlling us, he gave us conscience, which allows us to make our own decisions and actions which reflects upon who we really are. Although we can make any decision at any time, Allah (swt) knows what we will do as he created us.

So do he control or not? They say he control everything, when someone is about to convert out of islam, why cant he pull them back to islam? Why does he suddenly fill there heart with doubt and regret? I know your answer is "the shaitan tempted them, not allah" yeh well allah control shaitan too, right?

For example, you have conscience right now, you could jump infront of a car and kill yourself, but will you? Allah knows.

Maybe, but its haram so No.

Hmm... Maybe you will understand better if someone explains to you in person. Why don't you ask your parents?

Lol hell no, i can't ask a local imam and try my parents??! psh.
you kno my dad just told me YESTERDAY for the FIRST time EVER that music is haram. And he only said that because the radio was too loud and he want me to stop keep it loud.

format_quote Originally Posted by Ali.

Because he told us to. And if we do all he has commanded us to, then Jannah insha'Allah.

ah cmon, so ima invent a robot so it can worship me then ima give it a new chip if it does, but if it doesn't then i will take a sledge hammer and squish it to pieces. Why would i do that? Thats the question

k am off to bed now. it 5:12am. havent slept. cant sleep.
peace

format_quote Originally Posted by truemuslim

Thats the thing...what if there isn't no jannah? And what if this is all a lie? What if we were going the wrong way all along? What if ther is another religion thats right? sooorrry!

I'm sure you've seen many proofs of Islam, no?
I've read somewhere that you're 15/16, that's still pretty young. When you get older insha'Allah this is the decision you have to make, you have to research all religions and decide on which one you think is truth.
The Qur'an... the complex Arabic is contains, no mistake whatsoever, do you think man could have written it? And if you think man did, then try and write 10 verses of it. I'm serious, give it a try.

format_quote Originally Posted by truemuslim

What if islam was changed too?

It would've been written down in History.

So do he control or not?

He created you, he controls what he creates in you, he created conscience, then you make the most of it. So yes.

when someone is about to convert out of islam, why cant he pull them back to islam? Why does he suddenly fill there heart with doubt and regret? I know your answer is "the shaitan tempted them, not allah" yeh well allah control shaitan too, right?

That's the test.

format_quote Originally Posted by truemuslim

ah cmon, so ima invent a robot so it can worship me then ima give it a new chip if it does, but if it doesn't then i will take a sledge hammer and squish it to pieces. Why would i do that? Thats the question

The Qur'an is a book of guidance, not an explanation as to why He created you.

k am off to bed now. it 5:12am. havent slept. cant sleep.
peace

No wonder you're so confused, go to bed.

the very fact that we ignore is like we demand from Allah Tallah that why is not everything straight and simple. why do we have to go through this hell before reaching our abode - The paradise. But we forget that He has devised a plan and we walk accordingly to the plan. Each individual thinks that Allah Tallah is so powerful if he just gives me money then i wont have worries. But Allah Tallah has a special plan for HIM as He knows what will he do with that money.
Its the same as our parents deal with us. its like we are questioning why do we grow up why cant we always be a child as it very simple to be. we need to realize the pattern set for us by our Almighty LORD.
According to my understanding He has given us too much of power and the only thing is He wants us to utilize that . Some of them are fear of Allah , patience , forgiveness, self control .How much u utilize it that much will be your reward. and how much each one will be able to utilize He knows that also by HIS knowledge. And then HE enwraps that person with HIS mercy or with HIS justice.

In Quraan most of the Surahs they are a plain warning that resurrection is going to happen . the day of qayamah will happen. its just reminding us , isnt like the teacher is giving the questions before hand of the exams. but we are like we dont want the exam itself. is that logical.
If we were just no where responsible then the hell and paradise wouldnt have been created.

Looking at the sahabas , i just feel to proud to say that , the path UMAR(ra) would pass through Iblis would change His way. and the story of a jin who captivated a girl was bought to Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal. the jinn responded - you fear ALLAH and all fear you and left her. After Imam's death he again captivated her and was taken to a sheikh, he started laughing and said Imam Ahmad has died , Imam Ahmad has died.

If He wants us to fight against Shaitan , didnt He give us Salaat , Quraan, Prophet (salllaho alaiahi wassalam) , our sahabahs.

the only thing is we need to realize the potential we have and consequently utlize it - May Allah make it easy for us. Ameen but one thing is sure He is the most merciful. so try to be away from the major sins that HE has forbidden , pray 5 times a day and hope from HIM and repent for all the sins done. Isnt Our Lord most merciful who loves us when we repent that means we gain marks even if we do mistakes also. least He says is die in Imaan with shahadah in heart. I feel shameful. leave the iblis at side , cant we be actually good muslims as the sahabas were. May Allah guide us . He guides whomsoever He wills. Ameen

Em, so allah dont control nobody?
wow so 99 names, can control natural disasters, can control the earth to blow up whenever he feels like it, can control when judgement day come, but cant control what we do???? Cmon !

Incorrect, God can control you, but he said he doesn't - and their is no evidence that he does - so why wonder if God is controlling you.

but what i meant is why we gotta go thru this? Its liek when u see a movie, and you seein it again to see ONE certain thing that happened in it, why would you rewatch the entire movie just for one thing, when you KNOW whats gonna happen? Like say allah right now couldve made us fastfoward life for say ten years, and he made it seem as if we had a past, but we didnt get to see that past, but it seems like it did, we would have no idea what just happened, so why cant he just fastfoward it to when we come back to him?? Just end all this since it all written, all ready, all judged, everything is set so why rewatch it? See for a MOVIE its for entertainment, but its only with COOL movies like hancock, but life, it aint no entertainment, and im pretty sure watching ur slaves in jannah is much more entertaining.

If he fast fowarded you 10 years, you would ask why not 20, 30, or maybe you would want it as it is. These are just arguements like "Why is the Qur'an written in Arabic"? The Qur'an answers that, you would say why not another if it was anything else. Just accept how it is now.

another thing... Why does allah want us to worship him? What is the purpose? I know the usual replies are "Its not that he created us to worship him, its that he deserves to be worshipped" Ok i know that, but if he deserves to be worshipped then why would he create us to worship him? Does that make sense? Like em...wouldn't that mean he really did create us to worship him? So we are in this world to worship him. I get that. But WHY? Don't say because he is worthy enough for it or whatever. That answer gets old when u think alot. But WHY would allah create us to worship him ?

So we can earn being with him in heaven (earning something is superior to getting it for free).

Its ok, if you wanna stop right here and leave, go ahead, cause i am pretty pretty sure this is gonna be endless.

At the end, you are asking "Why's", about things which are true. You are here, you have received guidance, your task is not to use to work out why God did X or Y - God is incomprehendable, we are mere humans, we only have sufficient knowledge to be able to do what he has asked us. I mean, can you imagine, fully understanding your God, when we are even confused with Calculus? God chose what he releases to you and what he does not.


Sis, please watch that youtube link I gave you, go through that 3 hours and tell me you wasn't satisfied!

Each of us is responsible for our own choices. None of us are forced into believing anything and none of us are "made" to sin because of the temptations of the shaytan.

We often are our own worse shaytans and tempt ourselves and others, because we do have the ability to do so. It is easy to place the blame for our choices upon shaytan, but it is our own desire and choices that cause us to follow shaytan or to act like shaytans.

We are not made to follow either the path to Jannah or the path to hellfire, but we are allowed to follow as we desire. However, we alone will reap the rewards or pains of the path we choose.

We can be given a large sum of money to buy an elegant dinner. But, we can squander the money on junk and go hungry. If we starve after geing given the money for food, it is a punishment only because we alone took that path.

so it is with life, we have been given the directions to follow the path to Jannah, it is our choice if we choose to follow the pah to hellfire instead.

Sorry, we can not blame either Allaah(swt) or shaytan if we find the path to hellfire to be the easier and more enjoyable path, we have to live in the domain the path ends at.

ooh finally sum real anwers comin...sorta.
em well jazakallah khair so much everyone, and yeh i did watch that video in youtube, not all but most. Mashallah.
Jazakallah khair. tho i do still have much more questions. ima just leave them and try and figure them out myself. ....coughgooglecoughqurancough

Em, so allah dont control nobody?
wow so 99 names, can control natural disasters, can control the earth to blow up whenever he feels like it, can control when judgement day come, but cant control what we do???? Cmon !

Allah can control everything. But think about it. Say i control you. Can i punish you for something youve done wrong when i am controlling you? Can i reward you when your totally under my control anyway?

but what i meant is why we gotta go thru this? Its liek when u see a movie, and you seein it again to see ONE certain thing that happened in it, why would you rewatch the entire movie just for one thing, when you KNOW whats gonna happen?

The movie example is dodgy
Try another example. You see women having lets say 5 kids. Kids are stressful, the process from the time of pregnancy till the time a mother dies. Pain, worry stress....and deep uncondiotnal love. Why would any woman want to go through that with more than 1 child? Why would any woman want to have a kid at all?
You have friends, many, why not just have one? one friend is all you should need. Theyll help you in times of worry, they are your friend in times of happiness, is that sense?
You have money. lets say 1 million dollars. Is that enough? Why do you keep working? Isnt it boring? Why does human always want more and more
Youve tasted chocolate before. You know what it tastes like. you know eating chocolate in excess is unhealthy but it just tastes so good. Why eat it again when you know its tastes?
See how different things can be seen?

Like say allah right now couldve made us fastfoward life for say ten years, and he made it seem as if we had a past, but we didnt get to see that past, but it seems like it did, we would have no idea what just happened, so why cant he just fastfoward it to when we come back to him??

and is that fair? Is that just? Can your body testify for or against you for something you havent done? Can you be punished for something you never actually did only thought you did? Allah is Most Just.. we have been given this time on the world with Allah knowing exactly what we will do..but giving us the free will to do it. No one forces us to believe and disbelieve. No one forces us everyday to do what we are doing. And it is fo rthat reason we are judged for our actions. Look at angels. They are totally under the submission of Allah. They do as He commands. They have no free will. And we humans, by the grace of Allah, we have been put above them in rank.

Just end all this since it all written, all ready, all judged, everything is set so why rewatch it? See for a MOVIE its for entertainment, but its only with COOL movies like hancock, but life, it aint no entertainment, and im pretty sure watching ur slaves in jannah is much more entertaining.

dont ya think????


No i dont. wouldnt you say watching slaves in jannah is not entertaining either because Allah knows even what we will do in jannah?
You are comparing our lives to a movie, its not a movie, its not that simple. Its a lot more than that.

another thing... Why does allah want us to worship him? What is the purpose? I know the usual replies are "Its not that he created us to worship him, its that he deserves to be worshipped" Ok i know that, but if he deserves to be worshipped then why would he create us to worship him? Does that make sense? Like em...wouldn't that mean he really did create us to worship him? So we are in this world to worship him. I get that. But WHY? Don't say because he is worthy enough for it or whatever. That answer gets old when u think alot. But WHY would allah create us to worship him

let me add more things to your whys ok? :P

Why did Allah create the sun to light up the world. Why did Allah create the sky. Why did Allah create water for us to drink? Why did Allah create animals for us to eat? Why did Allah create land for us to cultivate?

Why has man invented vacum cleaners? Why has man invented internet connection? Why do you like your favourite dress?

We have been created with purpose, we are not here on earth in vain.

Verily! In the creation of the heavens and the earth, and in the alternation of night and day, there are indeed signs for men of understanding.
Those who remember Allah (always, and in prayers) standing, sitting, and lying down on their sides, and think deeply about the creation of the heavens and the earth, (saying): "Our Lord! You have not created (all) this without purpose, glory to You! (Exalted be You above all that they associate with You as partners). Give us salvation from the torment of the Fire.
3:190-191


"Did you think that We had created you in play (without any purpose), and that you would not be brought back to Us?"
23:115

And We created not the heaven and the earth and all that is between them without purpose! That is the consideration of those who disbelieve! Then woe to those who disbelieve (in Islamic Monotheism) from the Fire!
38:27

and Allah knows best.

Sis amani your post is amazing mashallah .Jazakallah khair dear sis !

format_quote Originally Posted by Eric H

Greetings and peace be with you truemuslim,

Ok as I remember you are around 15, forgive me if I am wrong, anyway my point is this; in years to come you might marry and start a family. You already know that some children grow up and loose their faith, you know some children grow up to be murderers, rapists, robbers. Once your children are about fifteen you have very little control over them, when they grow up to be forty you have hardly any say in what they do.

If you know this why would you ever have children?

If you have ten children and two grow up to be bad what can you do?

Ok atheists will argue that human parents and God are very different, and that might be so. But it appears the choices to create or not to create life are very much the same for us and God.

In the spirit of searching for a loving and merciful God,

Eric

Yes I'm 15, and WOW, the way you just put that totally made so much sense. Thank u so much.

Everything is in Allahs hands, he knows waht is best, and he knows what isn't. We can't question his authority, we have to accept it as his will. Hence why i never ask why such and such happened.

Sab Kuch Us Ke Hath Main (All is in his hands)