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    Question shayateen locked up??? (OP)


    assalamu alaikum

    i jus gotta question.

    when "they" say that the shayateen are locked up during ramadan then what issit that happens? what u benefit? coz im pretty (pretty pretty positive) sure that the shaitan is STILL OUT THER makin peoples do things haram, otherwise this world would be a heaven on earth right? but uglier.
    and also ...

    last time i checked ther were one shaytan not shayateen.


    jus ur confused sis again
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    Re: shayateen locked up???

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    format_quote Originally Posted by chacha_jalebi View Post
    sister read the link by bro Ali, that sorts it!
    Chacha_jalebi are are hindustani..or singh muslim?

    ya syaitan..is lock up when Ramadhan..so we dont have any whispering but still many people doing bad things...
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    Re: shayateen locked up???

    format_quote Originally Posted by Suffiyan007 View Post
    Chacha_jalebi are are hindustani..or singh muslim?
    im whatever you want me to be

    How can sins happen in Ramadaan when the devils are chained up?
    I heard the imam mention that the shaytan is not present in the month of Ramadhan. If this is true why is it hard for a muslim to stay away from sins during the month of ramadan even if the muslim is performing his or her regular duties.


    Praise be to Allaah.

    Firstly:

    The idea that the devils are not present in Ramadaan is not correct. What is proven from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is that the devils are chained up during Ramadaan.

    Al-Bukhaari (1899) and Muslim (1079) narrated from Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “When Ramadaan comes, the gates of Paradise are opened, the gates of Hell are closed, and the devils are chained up.”

    See question no. 39736.

    Al-Qurtubi said:

    If it is said, How come we see many evil actions and sins happening in Ramadaan? If the devils are chained up that would not happen.

    The answer is that evil actions are reduced on the part of those who fast meeting all the conditions of fasting and taking care to observe the proper etiquette; or that only some of the devils are chained up, namely the maarids (strong ones), and not all of them, as it says in some reports; or that evils are reduced in this month, which is something noticeable – fewer evils happen in this month than in others. If all of them were to be chained up that does not mean that evil and sin would not happen, because there are other causes of evil apart from the devils, such as evil souls, bad habits and human devils.

    From Fath al-Baari.

    Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen was asked in Fataawa al-Siyaam (p. 466):

    How can we reconcile between the idea that the devils are chained up in Ramadaan and the fact the people commit sin?

    He replied:

    The fact that sin happens in Ramadaan does not contradict the report that the devils are chained up in Ramadaan, because the fact that they are chained up does not prevent them from moving. Hence it says in the hadeeth: “And the strong devils are chained up, and they cannot achieve what they usually achieve (at other times).” Narrated by Ahmad, 7857; this hadeeth was mentioned by al-Albaani in Da’eef al-Targheeb, 586; he said: it is da’eef jiddan (very weak).

    It does not mean that the devils do not move at all, rather they can move and lead people astray, but their activities during Ramadaan are not like their activities at other times.
    a copy of bro Alis post! but lets jus say its mine now
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    Re: shayateen locked up???

    i read that. but i asked about who controls nafs after.
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    Re: shayateen locked up???

    to a extent you have a control over your nafs, but then shaytan will always whisper stuff to you,

    like go on do this n that it dont matter you can repent its the month of ramadan, just do this now and you got so much more days of ramadan to fix up in, heard summin like that before... ITS SHAYTAN! grhhhhhhhh
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    Re: shayateen locked up???

    lol yeh thank u
    jus a confused me again.
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    Re: shayateen locked up???

    format_quote Originally Posted by truemuslim View Post
    i read that. but i asked about who controls nafs after.
    Jazakallah khair to u...and ali (credit for both!)
    You ALWAYS control your nafs, nafs are your desires and inclinations. That's why you hear about this thing called "Jihad-un-Nafs" (Striving against the nafs). Shaytaan can only tempt us, but in the end we are responsible for any wrong action, just like in the end we are also responsible for our good actions. The Shaytaan is never an excuse.




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    وَقَالَ الشَّيْطَانُ لَمَّا قُضِيَ الأَمْرُ إِنَّ اللّهَ وَعَدَكُمْ وَعْدَ الْحَقِّ وَوَعَدتُّكُمْ فَأَخْلَفْتُكُمْ وَمَا كَانَ لِيَ عَلَيْكُم مِّن سُلْطَانٍ إِلاَّ أَن دَعَوْتُكُمْ فَاسْتَجَبْتُمْ لِي فَلاَ تَلُومُونِي وَلُومُواْ أَنفُسَكُم مَّا أَنَاْ بِمُصْرِخِكُمْ وَمَا أَنتُمْ بِمُصْرِخِيَّ إِنِّي كَفَرْتُ بِمَا أَشْرَكْتُمُونِ مِن قَبْلُ إِنَّ الظَّالِمِينَ لَهُمْ عَذَابٌ أَلِيمٌ



    And shaytaan (Satan) will say when the matter has been decided: "Verily, Allah promised you a promise of truth. And I too promised you, but I betrayed you. I had no authority over you except that I called you, so you responded to me. So blame me not, but blame yourselves. I cannot help you, nor can you help me. I deny your former act in associating me (Satan) as a partner with Allah (by obeying me in the life of the world). Verily, there is a painful torment for the wrong-doers."

    Wassalam.
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