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    Just wanted to know if its ok to buy school raffle tickets, because my little brother just won a nice football he wanted

    so is it ok because the money go towards helping the school?
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    Re: Quick Question???

    It is haram, considered a form of gambling. I was googling for a fatwa online so it could provide evidence, and alas, found this as the 3rd result, lol.

    http://www.islamicboard.com/general/134269936-fatwa-raffle-tickets.html

    The link isn't working for me, so here is what was posted by chacha, it's from islamqa

    Praise be to Allaah.
    With regard to contests which consist of a draw for prizes, if the person who wants to enter the contest can only do so by paying a sum of money, whether large or small, in such a way that there is the possibility of his losing this money and this chance is very high, such as the chances of winning being 1 in 10,000 or more, then this kind of contest comes under the heading of gambling. This is what is known nowadays as a lottery or raffle. For example, one person offers his car for 100,000 riyals, and he issues ten thousand tickets, selling each ticket for ten riyals, then he makes a draw and one ticket will win while all the others lose.

    But if the contest does not require participants to pay money, such as Qur’aan-reading contests for old and young, and it does not dictate that responses be given on a certain type of paper, then these competitions are permissible and may be mustahabb (encouraged), because they offer an incentive to recite the Book of Allaah and learn about its meanings. A similar case is the academic competitions where no loss is involved in entering the contest as the answers may be given on any kind of paper.

    Based on the above, we can say that the newspaper competitions which are widespread in our media are a kind of lottery, whereby the entrant loses the value of the ticket in most cases, and very rarely wins. Undoubtedly this is a form of gambling, consuming people’s wealth unlawfully, deceiving people and wasting money. One of the editors of one of our newspapers told me that the paper he edits used to print forty thousand copies daily, of which nearly ten thousand copies would be returned. After this newspaper started to run contests, their print run rose to 300,000 copies daily, with no copies being returned. Contestants were buying huge numbers of papers, not to read them but just to cut out the entry forms so that they could enter the contests by submitting more than one form.

    Undoubtedly this is a kind of lottery and is a kind of gambling. I wish that our brothers who are in charge of our newspapers would fear Allaah with regard to their country and their countrymen and with regard to their earnings. I wish that those who are responsible for the media, those who are in charge of the press, would take a stand that is in accordance with the Islamic identity of our country and free themselves from blame before Allaah with regard to their responsibility to enjoin that which is good and forbid that which is evil.

    The same applies to the TV contests which can only be entered by buying a certain chip for entering contests, and the draws run by stores via tickets which are only given to those who spend more than a certain amount. This means that the ticket has a value which is paid for in the bill, and this comes under the heading of a lottery or raffle.

    Also included with these practices – contests run by newspapers, TV stations and stores – are the deposit certificates which permit entry to contests by giving depositors tickets, as mentioned in the question. The reason why these are included under the heading of lotteries or raffles even though the bank returns the deposit in full after the contest has ended is that the deposit has to remain frozen in the bank until the end of the draw, and this means that this deposit is rendered inactive and is not invested in favour of the one who deposits it; rather it is invested in favour of the bank and not in favour of its owner. What the bank takes from its investment of this deposit is equal to the amount of money paid by the one who wants to enter the contest in return for the deposit certificate, hence this practice comes under the same ruling as lotteries and raffles
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    Re: Quick Question???

    format_quote Originally Posted by crayon View Post
    It is haram, considered a form of gambling.
    Really? Crud. I won a kettle in a raffle once. I was eight.

    Then I won an acre of the moon (don't ask) in another raffle I didn't enter (it was some primary school fundraiser thing, a family member entered everyone in the family).

    Incidentally, if anyone would like to buy a bunch of certificates claiming to grant ownership of an acre of the moon, please do not hesitate to contact me.
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    Re: Quick Question???

    Just to clarify, it's only when you go out and buy the ticket that it is haram. For example, if you buy an entry ticket to a place/carnival/etc and that same entry ticket is used in a raffle it's permissible, because you didn't buy the actual raffle ticket. Wa Allah a'lam.

    The other day I attended something which did that, your entry ticket makes you eligible to win something during the raffle- I won dinner for two at a fancy restaurant, woot!
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    Re: Quick Question???

    well whats he supposed to do now with the ball, he's only eight and he went and bought the ticket himself

    and lol how the hell can you own an acre of the moon, who owned it before that?
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    Allah!!!! lol (not lol @ Allah but lol @ the fact that people think they have the right to own the moon - and to sell it!!)
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    Re: Quick Question???

    format_quote Originally Posted by aadil77 View Post
    and lol how the hell can you own an acre of the moon
    format_quote Originally Posted by Rabi'ya View Post
    Allah!!!! lol (not lol @ Allah but lol @ the fact that people think they have the right to own the moon - and to sell it!!)
    Exactly. At least I didn't enter the dang raffle.

    I think I'll dig those worthless pieces of paper out and sell them to some guillible fool on eBay.
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    Re: Quick Question???

    format_quote Originally Posted by aadil77 View Post
    well whats he supposed to do now with the ball, he's only eight and he went and bought the ticket himself

    and lol how the hell can you own an acre of the moon, who owned it before that?
    Keep the ball but pay the school the cost of the football. That way you have BOUGHT the football and not WON it. This money would also go towards the school...
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