Could you tell me why the Palestinians have to recognize the zionist state's right to exist on Arab Palestinian Land ?
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June 17, 2009
- Is it because God gave his chosen people my land ,even though most of the citizen of the zionist state are not even from the region ?
- Is it because the Arab Palestinians have to pay for Hitler and the European's ruthlessness ?
- Is it because the zionist state never respected International Law ?
- Or is it because we are Arabs ,our blood,suffering ,dignity etc....do not count ?
No other people in the history of life on this Earth have been asked to do this ,and that's why I am asking .......Why ?
Re: Could you tell me why the Palestinians have to recognize the zionist state's righ
we don't accept them, and generally won't until that big war sis..
I suppose that is what the problem is.. they are hoping this would just go away and the palis dissolve into neighboring states.. but that is not how it will go down..
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Re: Could you tell me why the Palestinians have to recognize the zionist state's righ
format_quote Originally Posted by Whatsthepoint
Because they should take a more pragmatic approach.
If they want suffering, blockades etc, so be it.
:rolleyes:
''give me all your allowance or im gonna kick your .....''
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Our Lord! Forgive us our sins and expiate from us our evil deeds, and make us die (in the state of righteousness) along with Al-Abrar
Re: Could you tell me why the Palestinians have to recognize the zionist state's righ
format_quote Originally Posted by Whatsthepoint
No, it's more like don't throw bombs and we won't throw ours.
lol sure thats what the bully generally does say when the victim defends itself with a few stones. they bring in the big guys to 'show him his place'
Our Lord! Verily, we have heard the call of one calling to Faith: 'Believe in your Lord,' and we have believed.
Our Lord! Forgive us our sins and expiate from us our evil deeds, and make us die (in the state of righteousness) along with Al-Abrar
Re: Could you tell me why the Palestinians have to recognize the zionist state's righ
format_quote Originally Posted by amani
lol sure thats what the bully generally does say when the victim defends itself with a few stones. they bring in the big guys to 'show him his place'
Yes, but as I said the reality is that Israel is there and won't disappear for a long time, so why fight an endless war when you can have peace at least until Isa returns to Earth and smashes the zionists.
And siarel won its share of wars so imho it should be allowed to stay where it is. And it is a democracy, a liberal one.
Re: Could you tell me why the Palestinians have to recognize the zionist state's righ
format_quote Originally Posted by Whatsthepoint
Yes, but as I said the reality is that Israel is there and won't disappear for a long time, so why fight an endless war when you can have peace at least until Isa returns to Earth and smashes the zionists.
And siarel won its share of wars so imho it should be allowed to stay where it is. And it is a democracy, a liberal one.
so if it wasnt liberal then thered be a problem?
Our Lord! Verily, we have heard the call of one calling to Faith: 'Believe in your Lord,' and we have believed.
Our Lord! Forgive us our sins and expiate from us our evil deeds, and make us die (in the state of righteousness) along with Al-Abrar
Re: Could you tell me why the Palestinians have to recognize the zionist state's righ
format_quote Originally Posted by amani
so if it wasnt liberal then thered be a problem?
There is a problem already, practically guiltless people were expelled by foreigners, but srael has grown into a succesful, liberal, strong and an alltogether lovely state so I want it to stay there.
Re: Could you tell me why the Palestinians have to recognize the zionist state's righ
format_quote Originally Posted by Whatsthepoint
There is a problem already, practically guiltless people were expelled by foreigners, but srael has grown into a succesful, liberal, strong and an alltogether lovely state so I want it to stay there.
Ah so the means justify the ends huh? I'll kick you child out of school and have mine take their place so he can grow into a lovely educated person.
Oh and drop the bomb argument WTP.
You and I well know the statistics behind the attacks. Around 60-80 people have been killed by Palestinian rockets throughout Israels entire history.
Israeli tanks, jets, and military has killed thousands of times more.
What's interesting is that you've revealed your true reason for support of Israel. Your opposition isn't moral, you just like the state.
Guess what? Your neighbors are eyeing your house right now. After they've kicked you out, I hear they're gonna turn it into a lovely residence with fancy furniture and a green lawn.
May Allah guide you.....
Last edited by AntiKarateKid; 06-18-2009 at 01:09 PM.
Re: Could you tell me why the Palestinians have to recognize the zionist state's righ
format_quote Originally Posted by sister harb
No other people in the history of life on this Earth have been asked to do this ,and that's why I am asking .......Why ?
A lot of other peoples and nations have had to give their land away because of unfair actions. Finland had to give away Karelia, we got over it, so should you. None of the land we lost is worth the misery trying to get it back would cause to our children.
Re: Could you tell me why the Palestinians have to recognize the zionist state's righ
format_quote Originally Posted by Whatsthepoint
There is a problem already, practically guiltless people were expelled by foreigners, but srael has grown into a succesful, liberal, strong and an alltogether lovely state so I want it to stay there.
oh so because its a lovely state its a case of 'too bad' for thsoe practically guiltless people?
Our Lord! Verily, we have heard the call of one calling to Faith: 'Believe in your Lord,' and we have believed.
Our Lord! Forgive us our sins and expiate from us our evil deeds, and make us die (in the state of righteousness) along with Al-Abrar
Re: Could you tell me why the Palestinians have to recognize the zionist state's righ
salaam
The irony is that Isreal has never accepted the Palestianian state - such as bulidng illiegal settlements on land that was meant to make palestine is definitly stupid and is clearly hindering the peace process. Its also odd that america kept Vetoing for Isreal. Pity realy.
Do you think the pious don't sin?
They merely:
Veiled themselves and didn't flaunt it
Sought forgiveness and didn't persist
Took ownership of it and don't justify it
And acted with excellence after they had erred - Ibn al-Qayyim
Re: Could you tell me why the Palestinians have to recognize the zionist state's righ
format_quote Originally Posted by amani
oh so because its a lovely state its a case of 'too bad' for thsoe practically guiltless people?
Thy'renot entirely gultless, they were actually suffering from the same paranoi many Europeans are today. They were afraid Jews will take over, there was violence and the grand mufti of jerusalem even wanted Germany to construct a concentartion camp for Jews in Palestine.
Re: Could you tell me why the Palestinians have to recognize the zionist state's righ
format_quote Originally Posted by Zafran
salaam
The irony is that Isreal has never accepted the Palestianian state - such as bulidng illiegal settlements on land that was meant to make palestine is definitly stupid and is clearly hindering the peace process. Its also odd that america kept Vetoing for Isreal. Pity realy.
I am against the settlements, not only do I think all construction should be cease, i believe tehy should be dismantled the same way they were dismantled in Gaza. Oaba isn't really offering a lot to Muslims.
Re: Could you tell me why the Palestinians have to recognize the zionist state's righ
format_quote Originally Posted by Whatsthepoint
I am against the settlements, not only do I think all construction should be cease, i believe tehy should be dismantled the same way they were dismantled in Gaza. Oaba isn't really offering a lot to Muslims.
I agree maybe he should have listened to the international commuinty more - if amerixca did that - there actually would have been peace in the region.
Do you think the pious don't sin?
They merely:
Veiled themselves and didn't flaunt it
Sought forgiveness and didn't persist
Took ownership of it and don't justify it
And acted with excellence after they had erred - Ibn al-Qayyim
Re: Could you tell me why the Palestinians have to recognize the zionist state's righ
format_quote Originally Posted by Whatsthepoint
Both parties need to make sacrifices.
maybe - but dont you think the palestinains have made enough - they only need 3 regions
1 - Gaza
2 - west bank
3 - east Jerusalem as the capital
The thing is that the palestinians have to do is stop blowing themselves and firing the rockets which do nothing what so ever - they actually give Isreal the reasons to invade.
Do you think the pious don't sin?
They merely:
Veiled themselves and didn't flaunt it
Sought forgiveness and didn't persist
Took ownership of it and don't justify it
And acted with excellence after they had erred - Ibn al-Qayyim
Re: Could you tell me why the Palestinians have to recognize the zionist state's righ
format_quote Originally Posted by Zafran
maybe - but dont you think the palestinains have made enough - they only need 3 regions
1 - Gaza
2 - west bank
3 - east Jerusalem as the capital
The thing is that the palestinians have to do is stop blowing themselves and firing the rockets which do nothing what so ever - they actually give Isreal the reasons to invade.
East Jerusalem is the greatest problem-
Exactly, I've beens aying that for years. Israelis are unwilling to give up west bank ebcause they are afraid to have another Gaza, with Hamas government and rockets and all.
Re: Could you tell me why the Palestinians have to recognize the zionist state's righ
format_quote Originally Posted by Whatsthepoint
East Jerusalem is the greatest problem-
Exactly, I've beens aying that for years. Israelis are unwilling to give up west bank ebcause they are afraid to have another Gaza, with Hamas government and rockets and all.
I agree - the right wing governmnet doesnt help. we'll just have to see what happens.
Do you think the pious don't sin?
They merely:
Veiled themselves and didn't flaunt it
Sought forgiveness and didn't persist
Took ownership of it and don't justify it
And acted with excellence after they had erred - Ibn al-Qayyim
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