would you feel embarrassed?

^She isn't talking about washing hands.. :><:

^You must not get out much. 'Lavatory' is a universal, more appropriate word for toilet. Chill out.

format_quote Originally Posted by expat1

Thankyou Crayon! I am not talking about washing your hands! I am talking about washing YOURSELF in the lavatory......is the concept really that alien to you?

Pfft you must be American

The word "lavatory" is used in many meanings. For some it's a TOILET. For some it's a BATHROOM. For some it's a WASHROOM SINK! It's a place for washing therefore as I said the water is CLEAN according to W.H.O guidelines.

^what is your bloody problem! lavatory is commonly known as freaking toilet...and yes out of the states as well.

"Nevertheless the word was later associated with toilets and the meaning evolved into its current one, namely the polite and formal euphemism for a toilet and the room containing it"

She was referring to the toilet. What expat1 is trying to say, is that after using the toilet, muslims wash their private parts with water, while non muslims usually content themselves with only using toilet paper. Why is that considered less 'revolting' than washing feet (which are washed an average of 5 times a day- more times than some people wash their faces and hands) in a sink?

format_quote Originally Posted by expat1

Well, I think the thought of using the lavatory without any fresh water is a lot more revolting than washing your feet in the sink....and thats considered 'normal' in the uk!

And no, I'm not American.

format_quote Originally Posted by crayon

"Nevertheless the word was later associated with toilets and the meaning evolved into its current one, namely the polite and formal euphemism for a toilet and the room containing it"

She was referring to the toilet. What expat1 is trying to say, is that after using the toilet, muslims wash their private parts with water, while non muslims usually content themselves with only using toilet paper. Why is that considered less 'revolting' than washing feet (which are washed an average of 5 times a day- more times than some people wash their faces and hands) in a sink?



And no, I'm not American.

The difference IS that the toilet is not a bowl where you wash yourself. You can wait until you get home to go to the loo. The handwash basin is where people go to wash their HANDS and NOT their feet.

At my workplace alot of complaints were put forward to the managers that we all felt that it's wrong for people to wash their feet in the sinks where we wash our hands. The managers responded to the complaints and have now banned it.

format_quote Originally Posted by Blackpool

At my workplace alot of complaints were put forward to the managers that we all felt that it's wrong for people to wash their feet in the sinks where we wash our hands. The managers responded to the complaints and have now banned it.

"Washing feet in hand-wash basins is not right."

"I, and many people find the thought of washing their hands and face in a sink that has been used to wash feet as revolting. "

Why?

You keep saying it is revolting, and yet have not provided a single logical reason as to why you feel that way.

^maybe where some people are from people rarely wash their feet so when someone washes their feet in a basin they image grotty stuff falling off

format_quote Originally Posted by ChOcCi

Well, you can obvious pray your Magrib prayers later (I forgot the name of that term for this) right? I mean, are you saying that if your in the middle of a job interview, your gonna tell your to be boss that you've gotta pray cuz the time is almost over and go pray putting your job at risk? Im sure Allah understands if we're in tough situations and those times, you can skip the prayers and do it later. Ever heard of the joke where theres this religious guy who got stuck in flood and he refused all offers for help with the statement that God will save him? If not, ill be happy to say it

hmm, along with that, should we provide you a reason to why humans feel like throwing up when they see a person pulling out the intestine from animals while their eating?

Basins are meant to wash your hands, not your feet. I agree with that. If you guys HAVE to do it, then try a better solution which doesnt bother people AS MUCH (except the cleaners maybe):

Roll up QUITE abit of tissue papers, wet them in the sink, then roll it up into a ball. Go to the TOILET or lavatory, and then wash your feet on top of that.

This way, you wont even get bothered while finishing your wudu nor will you come off as an ill mannered person.

A muslim must do their best to pray on time, and they will be sinning if they miss a prayer. It's not an 'oh well, I need to work, I'll just pray later' kind of thing- it's a serious matter.

And yes, in the scenario that you described, you would tell your boss that you need a short break from the interview to pray. Why wouldn't you? It all goes back to the person you are- if you value work over your religion, then stay in the interview; if however your priorities are straight, you will let your boss know that your religion has certain requirements that you need to meet, and if they are incompatible with the job, then don't go for it in the first place.

So seeing animal intestines causes the same feeling as seeing a foot in the sink would? Frankly, I think that's ridiculous. I've seen countless people wash their foot in sinks and- by some strange miracle- I have not yet felt the urge to vomit.

"Basins are meant to wash your hands, not your feet. I agree with that" Again, an opinion, unsupported by any facts or logical arguements.

format_quote Originally Posted by Blackpool

That really is considered rude. Washing feet in the sinks at my workplace is banned and there is a notice on the wall telling them not to. People wash their hands/face at the sinks, the thought of someone washing their feet in that very same basin is revolting.

Peace

1st of all i am not a fan of "public" toliets as it is and after what happened today, i dont think i'll be entering one (unless its life or death)

There is nothing revolting about washing the feet in the basin, furthermore when you compare that to other issues that occur which ARE GREATLY REVOLTING.

1. People dont flush the toilet
2. People who make a mess dont clean up
3. Tissues are not availble
4. There is not hot water and/ or even no water
5. People dont wash/clean their parts anyways
6. People puke in the sink
7. People dont wash their hands, even after doing number 2.

And my biggest issue happened today at my work place......

I came into the toilet, and some guy was doing number 2, and then flushed. He didnt wash his hands and walked out. To walk out of the toilet he needs to push the 1st first door and then pull the second door.

...... in other words all the dieases in the world is stuck on both doors/ door handles.............THAT my friend is well and trully revolting. On top of that, i just washed my hand, how do i walk out without touching the crap.
I am in the opinon that the sink should be outside toilet i.e after the doors!

Anyways if washing feet was revolting, then it would be last on the list.

I always take a water bottle and when opening doors i use my feet or tissue
the male toilets are like a crime scene you have to tip toe and have a handkerchief covering your mouth and tissue to slowly open the doors of the separaters ready to face the blackened dinosaur eggs almost cracking in the toilet bowl

what is revolting is the common way in which men in the west pee. standing up -do their business, shake off zip up pants and thats it. no washing hands. then eating/shaking other peoples hands etc. now THATS revolting.

format_quote Originally Posted by amani

what is revolting is the common way in which men in the west pee. standing up -do their business, shake off zip up pants and thats it. no washing hands. then eating/shaking other peoples hands etc. now THATS revolting.

AsSalamOAlaikum WaRehmatuAllah WaBarkatuhu

I didnt want to say that one for various reasons, but now that you mention it. When it is done standing up - to do their business, a lot of the times it goes soooo wrong Also, i have seen people take and sometimes eat their food in the toilet THATS revolting.

What is more terrible is the fact that theses are grown ups, and maybe in their parenthood, yet they have no toilet ettiquettte, and even the signs have to be put up to wash their hands. What example is this to the children and society as a whole.


p.s. brothers should not be standing up at all, thats what the shaithan does. Learn to sit. Audubillah.