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    What are your views on our leaders, Freemasonry, New World Order and the Illuminati (OP)




    Firstly, mods forgive me if this is in the wrong section, and move it to the appropriate place.

    So as the title reads, what are your views and beliefs on the subjects? Do you believe a "secret organisation" known as the "Illuminati" are controlling the world? Do you think the Freemasons are connected to all this, and those (our leaders) of power, who are supposedly here to help and protect us or whatever else. Just wish to know if there are any others out here, and what are your views. Also, do you believe this Illuminati stuff is just a load of rubbish? Why? Let's hear some opinions and ideas..
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    Re: What are your views on our leaders, Freemasonry, New World Order and the Illumina

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    You don't even have to know anything about international politics to comprehend the impossibility of the logistics needed to coordinate such a thing.

    Seems that members on this forum are very eager to latch onto these half-baked conspiracies.
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    Re: What are your views on our leaders, Freemasonry, New World Order and the Illumina

    format_quote Originally Posted by ChargerCarl View Post
    You don't even have to know anything about international politics to comprehend the impossibility of the logistics needed to coordinate such a thing.

    Seems that members on this forum are very eager to latch onto these half-baked conspiracies.
    It seems other members here speak as if they are a "professionals knowledge" in everything known to man. Yea, there isn't a bunch of rich peopl making decisions for us, no that's impossible and that can't be or everyone would know.. and also because i've not seen those at FOX or ABC tell me it.

    While i never said this is a conspiracy theory, some of you seem to mix up the word "Illuminati" with a bunch of magic possessing demons of hell or some other fairytale BS. The simple fact of the matter is, it's just some rich and powerful people who get togather and say "right, this country needs to get invaded, this country needs billions to butcher and make innocents homeless while kicking them out of what was their country.

    And one last thing for all you kids to do your homework on: The "Illuminati" are just a bunch of rich, powerful families (Royal family, Rockefellers, Astor, etc.) and the power stays with them, and Bush was president, and now Obama, but heres the tip, they're both fam (hint hint). And it's not just the US, Israel is also heavily influenced by these guys. Yeah, all fairytales and stories..
    Peace out.
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    Re: What are your views on our leaders, Freemasonry, New World Order and the Illumina

    I understand that you distrust the mainstream media, but where exactly do you get your information?

    What is this trustworthy source?

    And which group is it that you believe is ruling the world? Is it the Illuminati or the Freemasons?

    By the way, the wikipedia link you provided seems to discredit the conspiracy theories that you espouse.
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    Re: What are your views on our leaders, Freemasonry, New World Order and the Illumina

    format_quote Originally Posted by titus View Post
    I understand that you distrust the mainstream media, but where exactly do you get your information?

    What is this trustworthy source?

    And which group is it that you believe is ruling the world? Is it the Illuminati or the Freemasons?

    By the way, the wikipedia link you provided seems to discredit the conspiracy theories that you espouse.
    The wikipedia link was just to show who i'm talking about, and if you did read it all there is lots of information showing their influence and involvement in/on Israel and everything else, i won't be bothering to go into detail. Where i get my information isn't just some losers blog on the net whose trying to get popular writing rubbish about how the government conspires, but i've spent my fair share of time reading books and searching the net, but it's simply not a matter of reading you have to use common sense and knowledge, but i've also spent my time reading up on the goings on in history to make my judgements it's not just something i jump to after hearing it from the next person.

    As for the Masons and Illuminati, i think nobody is ruling the world (yet), but they're making all the big decisions. The masons are just groups and societies, but where they link in with the Illuminati is that all the Illuminati (Bush, prince Charles etc) are all Masons, of the highest degree. How people conclude Masons to be evil is because of members like Aleister crowley and Anton LaVey, all Satanists and occultists, but there is a lot of other stuff, however nobody says Masons are satan-worshipers, just that certain individuals who happen to be freemason. Everything however, is moving towards a single government that will control all the land, money and resources. I mean, thinks like the president of EU is a start. Does it not trouble people that in years down the line we'll be living like slaves, and that these people are creating a world for the Anti-Christ??.. Amazing.
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    Re: What are your views on our leaders, Freemasonry, New World Order and the Illumina

    I think although there are many Masons in todays age, and it's very open, one should understand that many of the lodges still practice Pagan rituals, worship Pagan Gods, and such. One such example is the OTO. Founded no less by the Satanist Aleistar Crowley, and before *certain* people say "Oh no- That's not peer reviewed" or "There is nothing to mention freemasonry with pagan rituals there"... Learn to read, but also, that link is just a reference to whom i was talking about. The man who called himself "The Beast" is no doubt a Satanist for sure, it's been proven the sick things he did, but as well as that, Pauline Pierce Aka Pauline Robinson, was a member of Crowleys lodge, and it's been said many times than not that Crowleys the father of Barbara Pierce/Bush, who is the mother of George W. Bush. Although the only certain proof is DNA, and i doubt Barbara would be willing to give a sample, it can also be said it would be hard to get the sample and then test and finaly publish results, as they will just "disappear", along with you. Just to prove what i'm saying, here is a picture of Barbara and Crowley, there is more than an uncanny resemblance. Of course it's pure speculation but one can look at it and see... and it's possible considering what a Satanist Bush and his family are.
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    Re: What are your views on our leaders, Freemasonry, New World Order and the Illumina

    Everything however, is moving towards a single government that will control all the land, money and resources. I mean, thinks like the president of EU is a start. Does it not trouble people that in years down the line we'll be living like slaves, and that these people are creating a world for the Anti-Christ??.. Amazing.
    When people talk like that chances are either you're in high school or you don't ever read anything credible.
    FYI Globalization is not a plot to take of the world LOL. It's a sound economic practice Read an economics book; you sound like a hippy.

    Edit: actually after reading your previous post with the picture... I think you're trolling so I will leave it at that. You should find something more constructive to do with your time.
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    Re: What are your views on our leaders, Freemasonry, New World Order and the Illumina

    format_quote Originally Posted by Lynx View Post
    When people talk like that chances are either you're in high school or you don't ever read anything credible.
    FYI Globalization is not a plot to take of the world LOL. It's a sound economic practice Read an economics book; you sound like a hippy.

    Edit: actually after reading your previous post with the picture... I think you're trolling so I will leave it at that. You should find something more constructive to do with your time.
    FYI i've read more than a fair share and though most of this conspiracy theory is total s*** there is much with credability and truth. "Globalization is not a plot to take over the word" haha, read the word first kid. Economic practice, sound, verified by who? Those who wrote it?.. Yeah, it's like asking a criminal if he stole and him denying it, and you taking his word. I do more than enough things considered worthy of my time, and i don't sit in front of my tv praising my glorious government or leader(s), religious or political. You're either very ignorant or a mason. Either way i couldn't care less, enjoy serving "the new lord" in Hell after it's too late.
    Me trolling? Fall back to your little cave son.
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    Re: What are your views on our leaders, Freemasonry, New World Order and the Illumina

    we can call them with whatever name we like but Islam categorises these factions as Awliyaa ash Shaytaan
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    Re: What are your views on our leaders, Freemasonry, New World Order and the Illumina

    All of these groups consist of nothing but self-important freaks, who use a glorified title to play "pretend". The only real "power" they possess is due to the speculation and mystery surrounding them. They want to feel important so they get a group of like-minded people together and talk about what they would like to change.

    Look at the Bilderberg Group. Just a bunch of rich douches who get together once a year (invitation only) and pretend to be exclusive and important. And they get a kick out of the fact that people want to know about them. I bet you if people stopped talking about them, and giving them attention, they'd stop meeting.
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    Re: What are your views on our leaders, Freemasonry, New World Order and the Illumina

    Personally waste of time. I don't know whether they exist or not; but sure I've my time for better use -- trying live an Islamic life, simple as that.
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    Re: What are your views on our leaders, Freemasonry, New World Order and the Illumina

    freemasons govern most mainstream media.... no im kidding lol.
    its just the one eye... no im messin
    its like the underlying messages put into things... that once you see, you just cant unsee!

    so dont go looking for things that you wouldnt want to find.
    it would be extra class is the system was brought down from the inside though.
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