There is some controversy between different sects of Muslims on this topic. I will be discussing the topic below. Usually, Muslims quote the verse on Khatamun Nabiyeen and say that means that prophet hood has ended: "Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but he is the Messenger of Allah and the Seal of the Prophets; and Allah has full knowledge of all things. (33:41)
However closer anaylsis on this verse leads to the conclusion that the end of prophet is not meant here. What is meant is that the Holy Prophet (sa) is the best of all prophets. First of all the word used is Khatam which means he sealed or he stamped. The word khatam itself is used to show the rank of someone and their superiority. This word is known as “Ism Ala”. Ism Alah of the word khatam would basically mean the tool with which a mark is stamped or a seal. Now let us see how the word khatam has been used for other people and what it means when referring to a rank of someone. Here are some examples: Abu Tammam was a poet and was called Khatamush Shu’ara, meaning the chief of the poets. He is from the years 188-231 A.H, yet no Muslim believes he was the last of poets (Wafiyat-ul-Ayan, Volume 1)
Abu Al-Tayyib was also called khatamush shu’ara (Muqaddimah Diwan al-Mutanabbi, Page 10)
Hazrat Alira is called khatam-ul-Auliya, the chief of the friends of Allah, meaning the chief of the saints (Tafsir saifi, Surah Al Ahzab)
Imam Suyuti was called Khatam-ul-Muhaddithin, the cheif of the specialists in Ahadith (Title page of Tafsi Itqan)
Hazrat Shah Waliyyullah Dehlavi is also called Khatam-ul-Muhaddithin(Ujalah Nafiah By Shah Abdul Aziz)
Every human is called khatam-ul-Mukhulqat al-Jismaniyyah meaning the chief of all creatures (Tafsir Kabir, Volume 6, Page 22)
Ibn Hajar-al-Asqalani was called Khatam-ul-Huffaz, the chief of the memorizers (Title page of Tabaqat-ul-Mudallisin)
Hazrat Isaas was called Khatam-ul-Asfiya-ul-A’immah, the chief of the chosen leaders (Baqiyyatul-Mutaqaddimin, Page 184)
So Khatam is used as praise and it makes sense according to the context. The verse was revealed because the Meccans accused that look the Holy Prophet (sa) has no heir to take his place after he has passed away. In refutation to this allegation Allah revealed this verse that Muhammad (sa) may not have any heir, but he is the best of all the prophets. Now if the meaning was said to be the last prophet how is that something to praise about. Being the last of something is not praiseworthy and here Allah is praising the Holy Prophet (sa).
Also the Holy Qur'an states: "And whoso obeys Allah and this Messenger of His shall be among those on whom Allah has bestowed His blessings, namely, the Prophets, the Truthful, the Martyrs, and the Righteous. And excellent companions are these." (4:70)
One of the spiritual status that Muslim can earn is prophethood as shown in this verse, meaning prophets can still come.
Also it is prophecized that the second coming of Hadhrat Isa (as) in many hadith. Therefore, even the Holy Prophet (sa) prophecized more prophets.
Now it can't be the literal return of Hadhrat Isa (as) for he has died according to the Holy Qur'an: When Allah said, ‘O Jesus, I will cause thee to die a natural death and will exalt thee to Myself, and will clear thee from the charges of those who disbelieve, and will place those who follow thee above those who disbelieve, until the Day of Resurrection; then to Me shall be your return, and I will judge between you concerning that wherein you differ. (3:56) LAso if we look at history a similiar prophecy was made regarding Hadhrat Elija (as) . It was prophecized that Hadhrat Elija (as) will come before the coming of the Messiah, Hadhrat Isa (as). However he didn't come literally rather John the Baptist (or Hadhrat Yahya (as) ) came as the second coming. Likewise the same meaning is applied here.
They are many other verses and points that prove prophethood, but I will like that my brothers ponder on this point. Will they not, then, meditate upon the Qur’an? Had it been from anyone other than Allah, they would surely have found therein much disagreement (4:83). Remember the Holy Qur'an can't have any contradictions for it is from Allah.
Jazak'Allah
Wassalam.
Yes we believe Eesa will come, not Mr Hanafi Muqallid pretending to be the Maseeh.
And don't say salaam to me you zindeeq. I am not your brother.
There are alot of Hanifi Muqalids -stop being offensive for the sake of being offensive.
Do you think the pious don't sin?
They merely:
Veiled themselves and didn't flaunt it
Sought forgiveness and didn't persist
Took ownership of it and don't justify it
And acted with excellence after they had erred - Ibn al-Qayyim
I ahve already talked about this, When the Holy Prophet (sa) mentioned the second coming of Hadhrat Isa (as). He meant it metaphorically. The same thing happened to Hadhrat Elija (as). It was prophecised that he will come before Hadhrat Isa (as), but he never came. Instead it was a metaphorical coming in the person of John the Baptist or Hadhrat Yahya (as) and also Allah's way doesn't change. Such has been the way of Allah in the case of those who passed away before, and thou wilt never find a change in the way of Allah. (33:63)
If Eesa was dead, why did the Prophet use his name?
Anyway, let's ignore that.
Let's see this hadith which you are talking about where the Prophet mentioned the second coming of Eesa and meant it metaphorically.
Please ignore everything for now and just show me this hadith.
It is the second coming of HADHRAT iSA (AS0 WHICH IS METAPPHORICAL THAT IS WHAT i AM TALKING ABOUT
So what do you guys believe about the majority Muslims who reject Mirza Ghulam. Are we all going to hell? as we reject a "true" prophet according to you?
Do you think the pious don't sin?
They merely:
Veiled themselves and didn't flaunt it
Sought forgiveness and didn't persist
Took ownership of it and don't justify it
And acted with excellence after they had erred - Ibn al-Qayyim
Abû Hurayrah relates that the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: “By Him in Whose hand is my life, the son of Mary (peace be upon him) will soon descend among you as a just judge. He will break crosses, kill the swine and abolish the poll-tax, and wealth will pour forth to such an extent that no one will accept it.” [Sahîh al-Bukhârî (2222) and Sahîh Muslim (155)]
First of all he is no going to say it is metaphorical, Even the prophecy of Hadhrat Elija 9as didn't say it was metaphorical. However, it is deduced that it must be metaphorical. Now give me minute to finnd the prophecy.\
I have nothing against Hanafi muqallids, laymen being muqallids is no problem.
A prophet however being a muqallid is a completely different thing.
So don't try to be defensive just for the sake of being defensive.
Laymen?? there are a lot of great scholars.... actually most of them that were Muqalid? Calling him names just because he said salam to you was way out of order.
Do you think the pious don't sin?
They merely:
Veiled themselves and didn't flaunt it
Sought forgiveness and didn't persist
Took ownership of it and don't justify it
And acted with excellence after they had erred - Ibn al-Qayyim
Laymen?? there are a lot of great scholars.... actually most of them that were Muqalid? Calling him names just because he said salam to you was way out of order.
Please stay out of my discussion with him when you don't know what you're talking about. No offense.
First of all he is no going to say it is metaphorical, Even the prophecy of Hadhrat Elija 9as didn't say it was metaphorical. However, it is deduced that it must be metaphorical. Now give me minute to finnd the prophecy.\
Can you stop running around and tell me whether this is the hadith or not?
Abû Hurayrah relates that the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: “By Him in Whose hand is my life, the son of Mary (peace be upon him) will soon descend among you as a just judge. He will break crosses, kill the swine and abolish the poll-tax, and wealth will pour forth to such an extent that no one will accept it.” [Sahîh al-Bukhârî (2222) and Sahîh Muslim (155)]
It is all dependant on Allah for Allah is the judge. You must however make proper investigation has the Holy Qur'an tells us to . Also there is a famous hadith that we must find the imam and stick with him.
Please stay out of my discussion with him when you don't know what you're talking about. No offense.
Do you honestly think that discussion is going anywhere - the mods are going to shut this thread down as its Ijma that there is no other prophet after the Prophet Muhammad pbuh. No need to go hadith mining.
Lastly he may not be your brother in faith but he is in humanity - if he said salam no need to go crazy and call him names which is another thing that probabaly is going to get deleted. As is this thread
Do you think the pious don't sin?
They merely:
Veiled themselves and didn't flaunt it
Sought forgiveness and didn't persist
Took ownership of it and don't justify it
And acted with excellence after they had erred - Ibn al-Qayyim
Do you honestly think that discussion is going anywhere - the mods are going to shut this thread down as its Ijma that there is no other prophet after the Prophet Muhammad pbuh. No need to go hadith mining.
Lastly he may not be your brother in faith but he is in humanity - if he said salam no need to go crazy and call him names which is another thing that probabaly is going to get deleted. As is this thread
He is not my brother in anything - he is a zindeeq.
In an Islamic state he would've been executed for promoting this filth.
And 'zindeeq' is not name calling, it means heretic and that's exactly what he is.
He is not my brother in anything - he is a zindeeq.
In an Islamic state he would've been executed for promoting this filth.
And 'zindeeq' is not name calling, it means heretic and that's exactly what he is.
What like ISIS?
Do you think the pious don't sin?
They merely:
Veiled themselves and didn't flaunt it
Sought forgiveness and didn't persist
Took ownership of it and don't justify it
And acted with excellence after they had erred - Ibn al-Qayyim
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