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    Allah is known through reason (OP)


    Recently I read Harun Yahya’s book called Allah is known through reason mashallah. It’s a great book that opens up one’s mind about the logic of Allah’s existence mashallah. The sections that I found fascinating are the way Allah created animals to mimic nature and the surroundings mashallah. Here’s an extract from his book. I hope it helps those looking for proof of Allah’s existence inshallah.


    False Eyes shapes in animals

    There are some incredible and unimaginably interesting defence methods in the animal world. One of these is false eyes. With such false eyes, various butterfly, caterpillar and fish species convince their enemies that they are 'dangerous'.

    The butterflies open their wings as soon as they sense a danger and display a pair of eyes on each of their wings which appear quite threatening to their enemies.

    Let us take our time and think: can these extremely convincing eyes be the result of a coincidence? How does the butterfly know that a pair of scary eyes appear when it opens its wings and that this view would frighten its enemy? Has the butterfly happened to see the pattern on its wings and decided that this pattern was frightening and that it could use it in a
    moment of danger?

    Such a convincing pattern can be the result only of a conscious design, not of coincidences. Moreover, it is by no means possible to think that the butterfly is aware of the patterns on its wings and discovered this as a defence tactic by itself. It is obvious that Allah, Who created the butterfly, bestowed on its body such a pattern and inspired in the animal the instinct to use it in moments of danger.

    All Harun Yahya’s books are frees to download mashallah.
    Here’s a link to download the book.

    http://www.harunyahya.com/list/type/...eason/limit/20
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    Re: Allah is known through reason

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    format_quote Originally Posted by czgibson View Post
    He is a disgrace to your religion
    I want to object this statement...No one is a disgrace to my religion. Neither to all Muslims. People just do mistakes. He can be a disgrace to people who follow him only.
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    Re: Allah is known through reason

    format_quote Originally Posted by Pygoscelis View Post
    Sure. I would be amazed, but more because your "What if" includes the existence of Angels and Gods. If Angels and Gods exist, then any magical and otherwise irrational thing isn't so amazing or unlikely.

    And Yes, Gods COULD exist, though we have no good reason to believe that they do. My point was that you don't NEED them to explain what was being discussed. Eye spots on butterflies are perfectly explainable by natural selection and mutation, and all evidence we have points in that direction.
    Will be made clear soon inshaAllah,
    The op's post was about the miraculous nature of the phenomena and how it assists the creature, the op's foundation is based upon a rational explanation from start to finish, the claim that it just so happened with no basis of origin and no source of intelligence sounds irrational, it reminded me immediately about scene in a comedy :called "the piglet files" i sometimes watched when i was little, they find a man who they'd locked up with a spy woman dead and he's been poisoned with a syringe, the woman
    decides to blame them and they all stand around the agent who'd picked up the syringe still containing traces of liquid, they discuss and decide to send it off to the lab in order to find out what it is, but one of their agents chimes in "you don't have to send it to the labs to find out what it is, i already know!" They all go silent and focus on him in anticipation, "why it's a syringe!" he jubilantly and proudly proclaims.........
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    Re: Allah is known through reason

    To say this came without an intelligent designer is like to say a car spawned out of nowhere, from minerals or what not..

    it is more rational to say that our universe is a product of intelligent design, who is conscious. To say otherwise is ridiculous.

    I don't and won't buy that a butterfly in whosebob's post could come without intelligent design - it is simply ridiculous. It is more rational and logical to say that Allah SWT created it.

    It is like saying a programming language like Java script came unconsciously, simply ridiculous. Java scripts has rules etc. Did you know our genetics etc. Are coded by Allah SWT? Only Allah SWT could create such a being like us.
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    Re: Allah is known through reason

    Greetings,

    format_quote Originally Posted by Serinity View Post
    To say this came without an intelligent designer is like to say a car spawned out of nowhere, from minerals or what not..
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    Re: Allah is known through reason

    format_quote Originally Posted by Serinity View Post
    To say this came without an intelligent designer is like to say a car spawned out of nowhere, from minerals or what not..
    No. It is not like that at all. And I have explained this to you before. Your comparison doesn't have ANYTHING needed for evolution. There is no replication, mutation or natural selection in "a car spawned out of nowhere, from minerals or what not". Why are you trying so hard not to understand what evolution is?
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