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    Salamun Alaikum,

    Is there any way we can help those in the grave with their punishment?
    Can I give my salaah as a gift to died person? And would that salaah protect that person from punishment? Or Surah Mulk?
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    Re: Grave punishment





    Maybe the best you can do is a lot of dua that Allah forgives them, increases his mercy on them and, if they did not go to hajj to pay someone who went on hajj earlier to go for them as a badal, but you shall ask a mufti or two where you live.

    Also, you could give a lot sadaqa in their name (maybe finance a hafez, https://www.almustafatrust.org/appea...onsor-a-hafiz/ , maybe spinsor 10 girls class for three years in their name-inshaAllah the qabr azab will cease)
    , zakah if they did not give as they were alive etc.

    Regarding Quran reading, namaz, dhikr and other similar ibadahs I would not recommend.

    These questions are difficult and highely spiritually advanced ones and best it would be to ask an advanced mufti and shaykh tariqah.
    It is not easy to find a righteous/sound/orthodox shaykh and some search whole life. May Allah help us.
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    Re: Grave punishment

    format_quote Originally Posted by Murid View Post

    These questions are difficult and highely spiritually advanced ones and best it would be to ask an advanced mufti and shaykh tariqah.
    It is not easy to find a righteous/sound/orthodox shaykh and some search whole life. May Allah help us.
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    Re: Grave punishment

    format_quote Originally Posted by RevertTayra View Post
    Salamun Alaikum,

    Is there any way we can help those in the grave with their punishment?
    Can I give my salaah as a gift to died person? And would that salaah protect that person from punishment? Or Surah Mulk?
    Wa Alaikum Asalaam, Jazakallahu Khayran for your question. Are you referring to the punishment in the grave of anyone in particular or just in general? There is no way of us knowing for certainty who is specifically being punished in the graves. We only know for certain those whom Allah and the Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) specifically mentioned as well as the disbelievers and disobedient Muslims in general.

    And Allah knows best in all matters
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    Re: Grave punishment

    format_quote Originally Posted by Hamza Asadullah View Post
    Wa Alaikum Asalaam, Jazakallahu Khayran for your question. Are you referring to the punishment in the grave of anyone in particular or just in general? There is no way of us knowing for certainty who is specifically being punished in the graves. We only know for certain those whom Allah and the Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) specifically mentioned as well as the disbelievers and disobedient Muslims in general.

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    Let's say that a family member or someone we know wasn't really good and much practicing.
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    Re: Grave punishment

    format_quote Originally Posted by RevertTayra View Post
    Let's say that a family member or someone we know wasn't really good and much practicing.
    Even if they were sinners or not practicing we still should not assume that they are being punished in the grave as only Allah knows that. However we should certainly make lots of Dua's for them for their forgiveness, especially close Muslim family members, relatives and friends etc as well as for the believers in the graveyards in general. We can certainly say in our Dua's that if this person is being punished then for their punishment to be eased.

    If we can afford it then we can pay off any debts that they owed and pay or fast towards any broken oaths or pledges that we know of that they had not fulfilled. We can also calculate and pay any Zakaat they owed during their lifetime that we know they did not pay, and do Hajj on their behalf if they did not make Hajj and also make up for any obligatory fasts that they owed.

    We can also do voluntary good deeds and make intention to donate it towards them like various types of charity. Although there is a difference of opinion with regards to reciting Qur'an and donating it towards the deceased Muslim but many great Scholars have allowed it. Al-Suyuti (Ra) said in Sharh al-Sadurr, "There is some differences of opinion about whether the recitation of the Quran arrives to the deceased. The majority of the Imams and the Salaf agree that it does arrive [benefit them]."

    Imam Al-Shafi (Ra) was asked about recitation at a grave. He said, "there is no harm in it." Meaning that it is permitted.

    Imam Kamal ibn Humam (Ra) said in Fath al-Qadir, "Whoever does a righteous action for someone [can] benefit them by Allah. This reached us by mass transmission." Meaning that benefiting the dead by any good action is tested and well known to have worked.

    Al-Badr al-'Ayni (Ra) confirms this in the commentary of Kanz. This is also confirmed in Al-Darr Al-Mukhtar by Imam Al-Musuli (Ra).

    Imam Qarafi and Shaykh Abu Zayd al-fasi both confirm this (Ra).

    And Allah knows best in all matters
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    Re: Grave punishment

    format_quote Originally Posted by Hamza Asadullah View Post
    Even if they were sinners or not practicing we still should not assume that they are being punished in the grave as only Allah knows that. However we should certainly make lots of Dua's for them for their forgiveness, especially close Muslim family members, relatives and friends etc as well as for the believers in the graveyards in general. We can certainly say in our Dua's that if this person is being punished then for their punishment to be eased.

    If we can afford it then we can pay off any debts that they owed and pay or fast towards any broken oaths or pledges that we know of that they had not fulfilled. We can also calculate and pay any Zakaat they owed during their lifetime that we know they did not pay, and do Hajj on their behalf if they did not make Hajj and also make up for any obligatory fasts that they owed.

    We can also do voluntary good deeds and make intention to donate it towards them like various types of charity. Although there is a difference of opinion with regards to reciting Qur'an and donating it towards the deceased Muslim but many great Scholars have allowed it. Al-Suyuti (Ra) said in Sharh al-Sadurr, "There is some differences of opinion about whether the recitation of the Quran arrives to the deceased. The majority of the Imams and the Salaf agree that it does arrive [benefit them]."

    Imam Al-Shafi (Ra) was asked about recitation at a grave. He said, "there is no harm in it." Meaning that it is permitted.

    Imam Kamal ibn Humam (Ra) said in Fath al-Qadir, "Whoever does a righteous action for someone [can] benefit them by Allah. This reached us by mass transmission." Meaning that benefiting the dead by any good action is tested and well known to have worked.

    Al-Badr al-'Ayni (Ra) confirms this in the commentary of Kanz. This is also confirmed in Al-Darr Al-Mukhtar by Imam Al-Musuli (Ra).

    Imam Qarafi and Shaykh Abu Zayd al-fasi both confirm this (Ra).

    And Allah knows best in all matters
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    Re: Grave punishment

    This hadith mentions the Prophet put leaf on the graves of two women being punished in the grave, but you can simply pray for them as long as they died as muslims

    Narrated Ibn `Abbas:

    Once the Prophet (ﷺ) went through the grave-yards of Medina and heard the voices of two humans who were being tortured in their graves. The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "They are being punished, but they are not being punished because of a major sin, yet their sins are great. One of them used not to save himself from (being soiled with) the urine, and the other used to go about with calumnies (Namima)." Then the Prophet asked for a green palm tree leaf and split it into two pieces and placed one piece on each grave, saying, "I hope that their punishment may be abated as long as these pieces of the leaf are not dried." Sahih al Bukhari

    https://islamqa.info/en/answers/6517...e-pray-for-her
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