huge armies will come to destroy Makkah when Mahdi comes right.
Im thinking lebanon/syria/etc etc will get attacked till Makkah is attacked. I was simply wondering who else thinks the time of Mahdi is EXTREMELY close?
is it wrong to wonder when he will come and be eager?
PS: PEOPLE GET TRAINING!! MUJAHIDEEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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i thought the coming of mahdi would probly be one of the major signs!
first of the major signs according to sahih muslim either one of two, The beast coming out or the sun rising from the west will occur. Then the signs will drop like beads from a string and Mahdi will come before both of them!
Allahu Allam Allah knows best
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There are some muslims who say this is going to be the second coming of Imam Mehdi A.S. just like Isa A.S.. Whats up with that?
dont listen to them! Its clear from Muhammad saws that Mahdi comes only once, mayb there getting confused with the fact that Mahdi has exactly the same name as Muhammad saws, Muhammad Ibn Abdullah? sounds like a sect bro, best ignored
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first of the major signs according to sahih muslim either one of two, The beast coming out or the sun rising from the west will occur. Then the signs will drop like beads from a string and Mahdi will come before both of them!
True, may I read the hadeeth in it's length please...(if you have it with you!)...jazakallahu khayr!
but when one major sign comes..the other will follow behind like it's tail right!!...
so does'nt this hadeeth show that the mahdi is from the major signs!!??...cause if it stated the appearnce al-mahdi being either one of them...it does'nt matter whether it comes first or second..it's categorised as the major signs..Allahu a3lam!!....
D'you get my point :X
True, may I read the hadeeth in it's length please...(if you have it with you!)...jazakallahu khayr!
^ sure
format_quote Originally Posted by Sahih Muslim
Book 041, Number 7025:
Abdullah b. 'Amr reported: I committed to memory a hadith from Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) and I did not forget it after I had heard Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The first sign (nut of the signs of the appearance of the Dajjal) would be the appearance of the sun from the west, the appearance of the beast before the people in the forenoon and whkch of the two hap- pens first, the second one would follow immediately after that.
Major Signs:
SAHIH MUSLIM
Book 041, Number 6931:
Hudhaifa b. Usaid Ghifari reported: Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) came to us all of a sudden as we were (busy in a discussion). He said: What do you discuss about? They (the Companions) said. We are discussing about the Last Hour. Thereupon he said: It will not come until you see ten signs before and (in this connection) he made a mention of the smoke, Dajjal, the beast, the rising of the sun from the west, the descent of Jesus son of Mary (Allah be pleased with him), the Gog and Magog, and land-slidings in three places, one in the east, one in the west and one in Arabia at the end of which fire would burn forth from the Yemen, and would drive people to the place of their ***embly.
Mahdi is before all this
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According to Imam Anwar Al-Awlaki, A great scholar (whos name i forgot) who studied in a great university (of the name which i forgot) studied a degree on the signs before qiyamat and compiled a book on his knowledge. The most sahih hadith was used from this book in imam anwar al-awlaki's talk and he concluded that Imam Mahdi is not of the major signs... it was very convincing :eek:
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I done some fishing inshaAllah still trying to look for a proper hujjah!!
The Mahdi: Islam’s Awaited Messiah
Among the Major Signs, the most anticipated and central sign that Muslims are awaiting is the coming of a man known as, “The Mahdi.” In Arabic, al-Mahdi means, “The Guided One” 1 He is also sometimes referred to by Shi’a Muslims as Sahib Al-Zaman or Al-Mahdi al-Muntadhar which translated mean “The Lord of the Age” and “The Guided/Awaited One.” The Mahdi is the first of the Major Signs. This is confirmed by Ibn Kathir, the renowned Muslim scholar from the eighth century:
After the lesser signs of the Hour appear and increase, mankind will have reached a stage of great suffering. Then the awaited Mahdi will appear; He is the first of the greater clear, signs of the Hour.
I'm not so sure myself....Allahu a3lam, you could be right
Read this InshaAllah....
Hadhrat Umme Salmah (R.A.) narrates that Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) said, " After the death of a Ruler there will be some dispute between the people. At that time a citizen of Madina will flee (from Madinah) and go to Makkah. While in Makkah, certain people will approach him between Hajrul Aswad and Maqaame Ibraheem, and forcefully pledge their allegiance to him.
Thereafter a huge army will proceed from Syria to attack him but when they will be at Baida, which is between Makkah and Madina, they will be swallowed into the ground.
On seeing this, the Abdaals of Shaam as well as large numbers of people from Iraq will come to him and pledge their allegiance to him. Then a person from the Quraish, whose uncle will be from the Bani Kalb tribe will send an army to attack him, only to be overpowered, by the will of Allah. This (defeated) army will be that of the Bani Kalb. Unfortunate indeed is he who does not receive a share from the booty of the Kalb. This person (Imam Mahdi) will distribute the spoils of war after the battle. He will lead the people according to the Sunnat and during his reign Islam will spread throughout the world. He will remain till seven years (since his emergence). He will p*** away and the Muslims will perform his Janazah salaat." (Abu Dawood)
According to a Hadeeth, Sayyidena Eesa (A.S.) will lead the Janaazah of Imam Mahdi (A.S.).
While the people will be pledging their allegiance to Imaam Mahdi, a voice from the unseen will call out:
"This is the representative of Allah,
The Mahdi, listen to him and obey him"
This announcement which will be heard by all those present will establish his authenticity. Another sign which will indicate the authenticity of Imaam Mahdi wil be that in the Ramadhaan prior to his emergence an eclipse of the sun and moon will occur.
Hadhrat Abu Umamah (R.A.) says that Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) said: "There will be four peace agreements between you and the Romans. The fourth agreement will be mediated through a person who will be from the progeny of Hadhrat Haroon (A.S.) and will be upheld for seven years."
The people asked: "O Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam), who will be the Imaam of the people at the time?"
Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) said: "He will be from my progeny and will be forty years of age. His face will shine like a star and he will have a black spot on his left cheek. He will don two "Qutwaani" cloaks and will appear exactly as a person from the Bani Israeel..." (Tabrani)
According to hadith narrated by Abu Saeed Khudri (R.A.) Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) said: "...(regarding the rule of Imaam Mahdi) the skies will rain down in abundance and the earth will yield forth its crop in abundance, and those alive will desire that those who have already p***ed away should have been alive to enjoy this prosperity..."
Hadhrat Buraidah (R.A.) says that Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) said: "There will be many armies after me. You must join that army which will come from Khurasaan." (Ibn Adi)
Abu Hurairah (R.A.) says that Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) said: "(Armies carrying) black flags will come from Khurasaan. No power will be able to stop them and they will finally reach Eela (Baitul Maqdas) where they will erect their flags."
from: "Signs of Qiyamah"
by Mohammed Ali Ibn Zubair Ali
The thing is in the ahaadeeth that i've come over across it's not really specific whether it's from the major or minor!!
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