Is it permissable? Personally from what i've heard i'd say it was forbidden in Islam, but i've seen it happen so many times. Some say Shai's do it more in a way of tradition.
Your views please? Any verses from the Quran back this up?
sectarian
Ėk Gusā Alhu Mėrā
The One Lord, the Lord of the World, is my God Allah.
Dhan Guru Arjan Dev Mahraaj Ji!
Kal Meh Bėḏ Atharbaṇ Hū Nā Kẖuḏā Alhu Bẖa.
In the Dark Age of Kali Yuga, the Atharva Veda became prominent; Allah became the Name of God.
Is it permissable? Personally from what i've heard i'd say it was forbidden in Islam, but i've seen it happen so many times. Some say Shai's do it more in a way of tradition.
Your views please? Any verses from the Quran back this up?
sectarian
its completely forbidden, thats shirk. We worship no-one BUT Allah !!
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My tears testify that i have a heart
yet i feel me and shaytan never part
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Our Lord! Verily, we have heard the call of one calling to Faith: 'Believe in your Lord,' and we have believed.
Our Lord! Forgive us our sins and expiate from us our evil deeds, and make us die (in the state of righteousness) along with Al-Abrar
Is it permissable? Personally from what i've heard i'd say it was forbidden in Islam, but i've seen it happen so many times. Some say Shai's do it more in a way of tradition.
Your views please? Any verses from the Quran back this up?
sectarian
i am not qualified to answer your question.
some would say that the respect sikhs show to the SGGS constitutes worship. i think there is some confusion between the 2 terms "respect" and "worship".
some also say that the respect muslims show to the ka'ba is worship. i think that's incorrect also.
each man thinks of his own fleas as gazelles
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I too think there is some confusion between the 2 terms "respect" and "worship".
I think we respect many places, including graves. That has nothing to do with worshiping.
i am not qualified to answer your question.
some would say that the respect sikhs show to the SGGS constitutes worship. i think there is some confusion between the 2 terms "respect" and "worship".
some also say that the respect muslims show to the ka'ba is worship. i think that's incorrect also.
Ka'bah is just the Qibla (the direction for facing while praying)..thats why we face the Qibla. We do not worship the Ka'bah, we worship the Lord of the Ka'bah.
As far is people visiting graves, it is allowed and encouraged to make dua'a (supplicate) FOR the forgiveness of the dead.
But people go there for different reasons - they do shirk there by asking dua'a FROM the dead person. shirk is the worst crime a human being can commit, since he/she is associating parterns to Allah, Subhanahu wa Ta'ala. Only in Allah's hands is our destiny. He is the Only One to ask for help.
Shirk is what is forbidden in Islam. Allah, the Just and Merciful is everywhere. Every Muslim has a direct connection to his Lord.
People have come up with these innovative ideas of visting graves of pious people to ask from them. SubhanAllah! may Allah protect us from all sorts and forms of Shirk.
Ameen
And When My servants ask you about Me, I am indeed close: I
listen to the prayer of every praying person when he calls on
Me: So let them also, listen to My call, and believe in Me, so
that they may walk straight.
Surat AlBaqarah 2:186
i am not qualified to answer your question.
some would say that the respect sikhs show to the SGGS constitutes worship. i think there is some confusion between the 2 terms "respect" and "worship".
some also say that the respect muslims show to the ka'ba is worship. i think that's incorrect also.
Indeed, but bowing to a grave of a deceased is completely different to prostrating before the 'Shabad' (Word of God) These are people who were once human, and only God is worthy of Worship.
Ėk Gusā Alhu Mėrā
The One Lord, the Lord of the World, is my God Allah.
Dhan Guru Arjan Dev Mahraaj Ji!
Kal Meh Bėḏ Atharbaṇ Hū Nā Kẖuḏā Alhu Bẖa.
In the Dark Age of Kali Yuga, the Atharva Veda became prominent; Allah became the Name of God.
Ka'bah is just the Qibla (the direction for facing while praying)..thats why we face the Qibla. We do not worship the Ka'bah, we worship the Lord of the Ka'bah.
As far is people visiting graves, it is allowed and encouraged to make dua'a (supplicate) FOR the forgiveness of the dead.
But people go there for different reasons - they do shirk there by asking dua'a FROM the dead person. shirk is the worst crime a human being can commit, since he/she is associating parterns to Allah, Subhanahu wa Ta'ala. Only in Allah's hands is our destiny. He is the Only One to ask for help.
Shirk is what is forbidden in Islam. Allah, the Just and Merciful is everywhere. Every Muslim has a direct connection to his Lord.
People have come up with these innovative ideas of visting graves of pious people to ask from them. SubhanAllah! may Allah protect us from all sorts and forms of Shirk.
Ameen
i understand what you are saying above and the difference in praying for the forgiveness of the dead. i guess only god knows what is in a person's heart.
each man thinks of his own fleas as gazelles
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Indeed, but bowing to a grave of a deceased is completely different to prostrating before the 'Shabad' (Word of God) These are people who were once human, and only God is worthy of Worship.
yes, you're right - they are different. my point was that people shouldn't judge what is in someone's heart - this should be in god's department. a sikh bowing to the SGGS might, to an outside observer look like he was worshiping it, even though he was/does not.
obviously, according to islam, i am incorrect.
each man thinks of his own fleas as gazelles
question authority
Our Lord! Verily, we have heard the call of one calling to Faith: 'Believe in your Lord,' and we have believed.
Our Lord! Forgive us our sins and expiate from us our evil deeds, and make us die (in the state of righteousness) along with Al-Abrar
I too think there is some confusion between the 2 terms "respect" and "worship".
I think we respect many places, including graves. That has nothing to do with worshiping.
Agreed, but if respecting a grave prompt U to visit it every Thursday and sing songs in praise of the person resting there, and asking the person to get ur work done, offer him some sweets on his grave,................than indeed its something un-islamic.
Agreed, but if respecting a grave prompt U to visit it every Thursday and sing songs in praise of the person resting there, and asking the person to get ur work done, offer him some sweets on his grave,................than indeed its something un-islamic.
lol, True - Manmat as we say...
Ėk Gusā Alhu Mėrā
The One Lord, the Lord of the World, is my God Allah.
Dhan Guru Arjan Dev Mahraaj Ji!
Kal Meh Bėḏ Atharbaṇ Hū Nā Kẖuḏā Alhu Bẖa.
In the Dark Age of Kali Yuga, the Atharva Veda became prominent; Allah became the Name of God.
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