Allah only tests those He loves?

format_quote Originally Posted by Fi_Sabilillah

I've noticed this happens sooo much subhaan Allaah!

It is an aspect of Man's Disbelief that He remembers Allah at times of difficulty then associates others with Him after He has been relieved of His Distress

Some people like to cheat with themsleves and start begging for mercy in hard times. We should avoid this kind of cheating. When Allah puts you in test, then you should try to find the solutions using the abilities that Allah has installed in you. You know what I mean? For example when you make cars and put one of them to test, then you expect the car to withstand the pressures apllied on it. You'd reject the whole lot of cars if the car put on test doesn't withstand the pressure and starts begging for mercy.

format_quote Originally Posted by Fi_Sabilillah

We do whatever we have power over and we still turn to Allaah for sincere help, yes we beg of Him because we are weak and helpless, and we are dependant upon Him, the Almighty.

It's your own fault if you're weak and helpless. Allah made you strong and powerful. You're one of His best creations. You disgrace Allah when you talk like losers and point out design defects in his best creation. Try to pass the test when you're put to test. I feel inspired when I watch some handicaped and crippled people doing many things like normal persons. When those people respond positively and face the test gracefully, they certainly make Allah proud of them. Follow their example and do the best you can and leave the rest to Allah. Don't disapoint Allah about you by asking for help during your test. That's a kind of unfairmeans even when you ask the help of the examiner in an examination.

format_quote Originally Posted by Fi_Sabilillah

Look iqbaal, look at the examples of the Prophets who would do all they have control over and then seek help from Allaah. That's exactly what i said we should do, and if you want to discuss it further - please create another thread.

Prophets were the special people of Allah. Allah sent them for nothing but to spread His message. That was entirley a different kind of job which normal human beings are not made for. They couldn't fulfil this abnormal duty so easily. They had some complex problems during the course of their special duty which normal human beings don't have any experience. Therefore, there was no chance of learning from normal human beings. Prophets had to seek the guidance or instructions from Allah. Allah responded to them only and that too through Gibrael. He will not send any advice or instructions to normal human beings. Therefore, stop looking towards Allah for everything. Apply your brain and power to solve your problems. Do your best and leave the rest to Allah. He'll give grade you according to your performance. He might take some marks off if you still insisted on his help.

format_quote Originally Posted by nuj

salamualikum....
wow, this convo is veeery interesting....u've both confused me now...

when in times of difficulty u SHOULD'NT turn to Allah??? so who'dja turn to then? afterall there are some situations that are beyond our control....

but i do like the idea of staying strong...and not crippling under the pressure...and tru is true, we are the best of creations (not in an arrogant way)

You have to turn to Allaah. It is the ones who turn to Allaah and ask Him, call out to Him, and make Dua' to Him, they are the strong ones. The one who fears Allaah is indeed the brave one.

format_quote Originally Posted by nuj

salamualikum....
wow, this convo is veeery interesting....u've both confused me now...

when in times of difficulty u SHOULD'NT turn to Allah??? so who'dja turn to then? afterall there are some situations that are beyond our control....

but i do like the idea of staying strong...and not crippling under the pressure...and tru is true, we are the best of creations (not in an arrogant way)

There's no situation which is beyond our control. A situation maybe beyond one person's control though. In these circumstances Allah has already given you the ability to team up with approperiate persons or experts. Apply all those skills and you'd be successful. Have full faith in Allah. He is merciful and never puts you in a test which you cannot withstand. If you find a test very hard, then don't say that Allah made an out of course question paper for you and request Allah to revise the test paper. Read the question carefully again and try to look around you for the answer. Allah has already put all the answers close to us. It's upto us how we look around the world to search the best answer for every situation.

For example if Allah doesn't send rain for a long time, then don't start crying for water. Allah has certainly provided other sources of water near you. Try to preserve them and think of ways how to make them available for your needs. If you don't find any water resources near you, then you must move close to other sources. It's the part of life. Maybe Allah wants you to move for your betterment that's he might have stopped sending the rain for some time.

format_quote Originally Posted by nuj

soooo.....is the implication that if u turn to Allah(SWT) in times of difficulty....it means uve failed ur test???????

personally i dont agree... in times of difficulty and distress we shud do both... pray and strive, lest we start thinking were invincible.

We must pray regularly anyway. That's not the issue here. But to commit irregulaties for praying especially in times of difficulty is not good. In times of difficulty we should adress the problem properly and gracefully.

format_quote Originally Posted by Fi_Sabilillah

Did the Prophet peace be upon him say that? Or is it just your own opinion?

Do you mean to say that Prophet peace be upon him forbid us from praying regularly or to commit irregularities or to start praying more than normal in times of difficulty and not to pay attention to resolve the problem properly?

If he said so then please give the proof from Quran and Hadidth as you always claim yourself to be a champion of Quran and Sunnah. You use this very often in order to knock out others when you run out of arguments.